An interesting discussion, but it confirmed an opinion that Cameron is something like George Bush Jr, still a Bullingdon Club juvenile at heart, who simply wades into international affairs with all the British Empire confidence of being able to lord it over Johnny Foreigner.

However, unlike George Bush, he no longer has an Empire so nbody has to suck up to him anymore. At least Blair had the common sense to always hide behind Bush so that everyone knew where the authority came from. Cameron seems to think he has gravitas just for being British PM.

But I found this disturbing later on;-

But if euro members use EU systems to pull together in ever greater union and financial regulation, they will probably want Britain to join them to avoid London's financial centre gaining a competitive advantage through lighter oversight.

No, no and NO !!! Form their own heavily regulated financial union and treat the city as a hostile offshore account and create trade barriers to prevent easy capital flight. Basically make the cost of operating out of London too expensive and let the City wither. The UK is a vast offshore haven that is damaging to the financial interests of the people of europe, if the UK govt haven't the will to bring it to heel, then Europe should.

keep to the Fen Causeway