The Manufacturing of Consent | 134 comments (132 topical, 2 editorial, 0 hidden)

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And how do you fix that?

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Wed Jun 6th, 2012 at 10:30:25 AM EST
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I can't.

Quoting Diogenes, the more I know people, the more I like my dog.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 6th, 2012 at 10:31:36 AM EST
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But politics, when played well, is the art of ameliorating its worst consequences? And perhaps even fixing a few of the problems on the way. Science and Democracy were distinct improvements on what preceded them. The EU a distinct improvement on the warring Great Powers. The Euro perhaps a slight improvement on the currency speculators gaming casinos which proceeded it. We just have to fix the architecture a bit more so that even incompetent administrators can bolix it all the time.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Wed Jun 6th, 2012 at 10:42:42 AM EST
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The Euro perhaps a slight improvement on the currency speculators gaming casinos which pr[e]ce[]ded it.

Except it isn't. The Euro is a reenactment of the gold standard. And currency speculation in European currencies was not the problem the Euro was designed to solve.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 6th, 2012 at 10:44:40 AM EST
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But politics, when played well, is the art of ameliorating its worst consequences?

Begs the question.

Politics is about power. It is mostly uncorrelated with what power will be used for.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 6th, 2012 at 10:46:09 AM EST
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I didn't know you had a dog.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jun 6th, 2012 at 10:45:28 AM EST
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I don't like dogs, I'm a cat person and I don't have a cat.

Diogenes' point is that the more you know about people the less you're bound to like them. So the only way to cure cynicism may be lobotomy.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 6th, 2012 at 10:47:36 AM EST
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I find it works the other way around. The more I get to know people, generally, the more I get to like or at least them. Cats couldn't give a shit either way. They want to be fed and scratched and give you at most a purr in return...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Wed Jun 6th, 2012 at 10:54:00 AM EST
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You're saying I could learn to like Merkel with even more exposure to her?

Since I'm expecting her to be Chancellor until at least 2017, maybe I'll yet become a fan.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jun 6th, 2012 at 12:24:37 PM EST
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