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German firms urge rejection of stability mechanism - The Irish Times - Sat, Jun 09, 2012
A protest letter signed by 350 of Germany's best-known companies such as Kärcher, Henkel and Würth attacks the bailout fund and disputes what it calls the "myth that Europe can only survive as a transfer union".

The companies take issue with "political whitewash" over the euro, which it sees as a "driving force for dispute, jealousy and hate" in today's Europe.

"The coercion and consequences of a common currency are beginning to divide European peoples permanently," said the statement. "Not every means is permitted to save the euro - and those who want to save the euro at any price risk the price being Europe." With its statement the association joins a growing wave of protest against the European Stability Mechanism in Germany.

Agreed by EU leaders last July, the ESM is scheduled to begin working next month as a permanent bailout fund with a total financial capacity of €700 billion.

Given that the ESM was the only reason the Irish were persuaded to vote for the Stability Treaty, a failure by Germany to ratify the ESM would be regarded as a breach of trust of the highest order. But for German firms to lobby against the ESM seems like turkeys voting for Christmas, given that they have been the primary beneficiaries of the Euro.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sat Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:42:28 AM EST
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Turns out they're right at least in this
"The coercion and consequences of a common currency are beginning to divide European peoples permanently," said the statement. "Not every means is permitted to save the euro - and those who want to save the euro at any price risk the price being Europe."
As to
Given that the ESM was the only reason the Irish were persuaded to vote for the Stability Treaty, a failure by Germany to ratify the ESM would be regarded as a breach of trust of the highest order.
As an advocate of the No in the recent referendum, all I can tell the Irish government and the yes side is "cry me a river".

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jun 9th, 2012 at 01:49:12 PM EST
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a failure by Germany to ratify the ESM would be regarded as a breach of trust of the highest order.

Perhaps the Irish expect to be betrayed and are used, even comfortable, playing the role of the betrayed.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:28:19 AM EST
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That stereotype might have had some content in the colonial and immediate post colonial period because of the manner the Brits used to use informers to undermine local resistance, but it really has no relevance to the current political situation. Germany failing to keep its word undermines all manner of official and popular narratives - a bit like the Swabian housewife having an affair on the side on which she spends her husband's earnings...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sun Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:48:02 AM EST
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So, what do you expect Fine Gael to do if/when Germany fails to ratify the ESM? And how is the government reacting to the claim by the Spanish government that they will not be required to implement additional austerity as a condition of getting money for their banks? And what would they do were that to turn out to be substantially true?

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jun 10th, 2012 at 12:33:46 PM EST
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The Irish Government has an ongoing campaign to renegotiate its bank bail-out deal and if the Spaniards end up getting a better deal, the Irish Government will expect those terms to apply retrospectively to Ireland. Failing that, their only real threat is to default of the Anglo Irish promissory notes - something that would drive Angela and the ECB nuts, but which they can do little about because that debt was not covered by the Bank guarantee or the Troika deal.

Whether Fine Gael have the balls to actually follow through on that threat is another matter...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sun Jun 10th, 2012 at 05:30:40 PM EST
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Frank Schnittger:
But for German firms to lobby against the ESM seems like turkeys voting for Christmas, given that they have been the primary beneficiaries of the Euro.

operative words: 'have been'

the glory days of local rich(ly indebted) local consumer markets are done, kaput... on to the new bric frontier!

we're tapped out for now, and will be until/unless we put finance back in the padded cell again, and change the energy paradigm.

they could lend us more fake money to buy more audis, but they have seen the writing on the wall, the payback will be too amortised, too far off into the future horizon to be even remotely virtual.

party's over, best to leave before the cops arrive to mop up the blood and glass shards.

The power of knowledge is in mortal combat with the knowledge of power. It really is that simple... That's the Edenic apple we are all munching on.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:56:07 PM EST
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Cry "Havoc," and let slip the German dogs of dissolution.  That was quicker than I expected.
by rifek on Mon Jun 11th, 2012 at 02:09:10 PM EST
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