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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 07:56:35 AM EST
Well, rather like Kirk's solution to the Kobayashi Maru scenario, it has the benefit of not having been tried before.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:03:40 AM EST
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I figured I am only likely to be around now since we have a busy day ahead so I may as well start off an OT.

Have you recovered from your BeerFest enthusiasm?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:06:16 AM EST
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Heh, yes, I usually get over within the day. A good night's sleep and I'm ready for more.

Tho' the weather is absolutely dreadful here, it's absolutely chuckin' it down and I have no enthusiasm for going out at all.

So I shall probably stay in, stay sober and give my liver a rest.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:21:35 AM EST
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Speaking of beer, now that you've sold your Bulgarian estate, what's up with the planned pub?

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 06:05:47 PM EST
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Rental prices for sops in the area where I live are too high for the economic model I wish to follow, so I'm kinda stuck.

there's a couple of things I'm following which I cannot talk about, but the initial idea is a non-starter unless the shop management companies accept there's a recession and they can't ask sky high rents

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 03:53:15 AM EST
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Patience.

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 07:35:29 AM EST
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"sops?"

A thing given or done as a concession of no great value to appease someone whose main concerns or demands are not being met?

Wha?????

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 12:03:55 PM EST
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Early morning: the orange glow of sunrise, the chirping birds, the anxious hungry-waiting cats, the gentle hissing of lawn irrigation systems, the incessant honking of freight train horns as they shuttle another few tons of coal into the power plant storage yard...
by asdf on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:40:49 AM EST
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My cat wanted out at 4:30 this morning, so I went downstairs with her and let her out and was thereby treated to such a beautiful sunrise that I went back up and got my camera.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 11:51:59 AM EST
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Today, in an article on the attempt to draft the ultra-Orthodox, they report.
In Haredi communities the mood is defiant. Mea Shearim is a closed, strictly ultra-Orthodox community on the outskirts of Jerusalem's Old City. Apart from the murmur of prayers in the yeshivas and the occasional shout of young schoolboys, its old stone alleyways are hushed. Men in broad hats and frockcoats walk the streets quickly, their eyes cast to the ground. Life here has not changed for hundreds of years and no one thinks it will change now.
Wikipedia, on the other hand, says
Mea Shearim was established in 1874 as the second settlement outside the walls of the Old City by a building society of 100 shareholders.[2] Pooling their resources, the society members purchased a tract of land outside the Old City, which was severely overcrowded and plagued by poor sanitation, and built a new neighborhood with the goal of improving their standards of living.
This is hardly a trivial matter. Zionist history regards the move outside the city walls as a key event, and the belief that it has been there for centuries (as opposed to merely looking that way) displays amazing ignorance.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:23:00 AM EST
given the willful revisionism of religious extremists of all kinds, I think that cultivated ignorance is a feature, not a bug.

that said, whilst I support the efforts of the Israeli govt to make previously exempt religious groups serve their time in the IDF, I agree with those who say that the wholesale drafting of extremists into an allegedly secular army will cause more problems than it solves.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:32:03 AM EST
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I'm sure the army needs latrine diggers.

- Jake

If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 03:32:16 AM EST
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On the Left Coast of America, the birds are not up yet, but the Chris Hayes addicts are
by greatferm (greatferm-at-email.com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:27:03 AM EST
Well, it's got to be better than Morning Joe

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:36:57 AM EST
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Guardian - Deborah Orr - Private sector efficiency? This lie has to stop

A rumour has been doing the rounds - unfounded but all too credible - that health secretary Andrew Lansley wants to scrap the 49% cap on the proportion of private income that NHS institutions can earn. One wouldn't want hospitals holding back, just in case they accidently nosed over into the forbidden 50%, would we? That might hamper private-sector efficiency.

It doesn't seem credible that the Conservatives can carry on believing the private sector is more efficient while actually in the process of drafting in the public sector army (which I've heard prides itself on efficiency) to address the mess the private sector G4S has made of Olympic security. G4S are not only inefficient, but delusional and cowardly. They didn't even admit they were fouling up until the last possible moment.

But neo-liberal faith in the magic of the profit motive continues, however facile the arguments are in theory, and however clearly wrong in practice. The only real efficiency the private sector has is that its failures go bust, while public-sector failures must struggle on.



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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:28:12 AM EST
sadly, the Telegraph still has yet to find a clue

Telegraph - Charles Moore - How to take Britain from Bleak House to Great Expectations

Those of us unimpeded by modernising anxieties would add overseas aid and even the NHS budget to reinforce Boles's list of targets {for cuts}. We would also recall how Ronald Reagan enabled the creation of more than 20 million jobs in the United States. If you hold down the minimum wage and give small businesses a holiday from the appalling expense of equality, employment, environmental health and other regulations, you suddenly make it a pleasure to give people jobs. If you combine this with lower taxes on low incomes, and tighter control of welfare benefits, you bring on a new generation of workers.

What about the workers, then? Work is the first building block for owning the society of which you are a citizen. When better times come, the worker starts to own other things as well as his or her labour - a house, a pension and other savings, perhaps some shares. The word "ownership" is a key concept for the health of any advanced society, yet the Coalition has almost no policies for advancing it. Under socialism, the state grabs property, and calls it ownership in the name of the people. If the people can no longer own things through their own efforts, then socialism will appeal to them once again.

Unfortunately he is unable to see that his programme to reduce wages for the benefit of employers undermines his desire to see workers enjoying the fruits of labour. So his ideas short circuit almost immediately.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 08:54:27 AM EST
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You don't seem to understand that trickle-down works perfectly if you expect less trickle.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 09:24:49 AM EST
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Ok, so I'm involved in running a couple of small businesses.

Minimum wage is a red herring as far as I can see, because neither of those businesses runs on unskilled labour.

The businesses that do rarely improve national productivity or exports. I'd love a journalist to analyse just how many new businesses every year are new hairdressers/nail salons/etc. These are all great amenities to have - and many of them employ trainees on minimum wage - but they do very little for the economic targets the very serious people like to claim to worry about. So maybe we should stop focusing on policies to help them...

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 11:47:27 AM EST
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Guardian - Tanya Gold - Eva Rausing's story is part of the white noise of the age

If an obsessive drug user from anywhere other than Belgravia - or Knightsbridge, or Mayfair - were caught with 52g of cocaine, prison would be a likely outcome. But not for Rausing. Her lawyer corresponded with the Crown Prosecution Service, and Prince Charles, a global expert in the magical power of prestige to soothe any practical problem, said she deserved a second chance. The judiciary bowed to wealth: no charges were brought against the Rausings. Sir Ian Blair, then the Metropolitan police commissioner, was furious, and said the decision not to prosecute "reminds me of the 19th-century legal comment often attributed to Sir James Mathew: 'In England justice is open to all - just like the Ritz.'"
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So this is the oldest story - of the law's viciousness towards the ordinary, and its polite reticence towards the wealthy, and it feels like the white noise of the age. The dialogue against the poor, the unemployed and recipients of welfare is rising to a scream under this coalition government, and it is producing a criminal justice system to match: with so many feckless you need at least the appearance of muscular punishment.

I read again yesterday of Nicholas Robinson, the student jailed for six months for "looting" a £3.50 bottle of water during the riots last year, and the evening and weekend courts planned for the Olympics, so justice can be swiftly meted out. We are segueing, in all the details, towards a darker age. Eva Rausing was unlucky, but her death tells not how similar the rich and poor are in essence, but how different.



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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 09:08:21 AM EST
Independent - Ben chu - Libor: They all knew - and no one acted

Regulators on both sides of the Atlantic failed to act on clear warnings that the Libor interest rate was being falsely reported by banks during the financial crisis, it emerged last night.

A cache of documents released yesterday by the New York Federal Reserve showed that US officials had evidence from April 2008 that Barclays was knowingly posting false reports about the rate at which it could borrow in order to assuage market concerns about its solvency.

An unnamed Barclays employee told a New York Fed analyst, Fabiola Ravazzolo, on 11 April 2008: "So we know that we're not posting, um, an honest Libor." He said Barclays started under-reporting Libor because graphs showing the relatively high rates at which the bank had to borrow attracted "unwanted attention" and the "share price went down".

The problem being that, the wider the systemic corruption, the less likely it is that anything will be done about it

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 09:31:36 AM EST
What annoys me the most is we're already seeing banking friendly commentators claim that since the government may have known what was going on, Barclays shouldn't be punished.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 11:49:24 AM EST
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Following some Ha'aretz links on the Wagner controversy, I found the following article from last month. It includes the following paragraph
Hitler incorporated as much Wagner into the fabric of the Third Reich as he could. Nazi Party conferences usually opened with recordings of the opera "Rienzi," which was one of Hitler's favorites - when he committed suicide in the Berlin bunker he was found to be in possession of the musical score.  He identified with the hero of the story, the leader who came from the gutter, unified his people and led them to greatness.
The correct story is that the Wagner family gave Hitler the autographs scores of Wagner's early operas, and they have not been found since. That's basically all we know, though there are lots of theories about what may have happened to them. I initially dismissed this as "merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative," and didn't give it any more thought. What do you expect from a journalist? Then I got to the last line
The writer is head of the Kantor Center for the Study of Contemporary European Jewry, at Tel Aviv University and is the chief historian of Yad Vashem.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 10:59:54 AM EST
El Comfidencial: Los parados que cobran renta activa y viajen al extranjero perderán el paro (14/7/2012)
Algunos de los españoles parados que salgan al extranjero, con cualquier motivo y por el tiempo que sea, perderán automáticamente la prestación por desempleo. Así lo establece el Gobierno en el Real-Decreto ley de medidas antidéficit aprobado ayer y publicado este sábado en el Boletín Oficial del Estado.

...

A partir de ahora, no obstante, la salida al extranjero, "por cualquier motivo o duración" interrumpirá la inscripción como demandante de empleo. En aquellos supuestos en los que se cese en la demanda de empleo, se exigirá un periodo de 12 meses "ininterrumpido" desde la nueva inscripción, de modo que a los desempleados que tenían derecho a la prestación por desempleo no les valdrá con regresar a España; tendrán que esperar un año para poder recuperar el derecho a cobrar el paro.

De esta forma, ciñéndose a la literalidad del texto, quedaría restringido el derecho a la libre circulación de estos parados españoles inclusive dentro de la Unión Europea (dado que no se precisan excepciones sobre el destino). Así, un parado español no podría acudir a una entrevista de trabajo en Berlín sin arriesgarse a perder su subsidio durante un año, ni trasladarse allí un mes para buscar empleo.

The unemployed who receive "active [reinsertion] income" and travel abroad will los their subsidy
Some of the unemployed Spaniards who go abroad, for any reason and for any length of time, will automativally lose their unemployment benefits. So is established by the Government in the Royal Decree of deficit-fighting measures approved yesterday and published this Saturday in the [Boletín Oficial del Estado] Official Journal.

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From now on, however, going abroad "for any reason or length of time" will interrupt the inscription as jobseeker. In those cases where people cease to be jobseekers, am "uninterrupted" period of 12 months will be required after a new inscription so that the unemployed who had a right to an unemployment subsidy will not have enough with returning to Spain; they will have to wait for a year before recovering their right to receive the subsidy.

In this way, taking the text literally, the right to free movement of people would be restricted for these unemployed Spaniards even within the EU (given that no exceptions are given on destination). Thus, a Spanish unemployed will not be able to go to a job interview in Berlin without risking to lose their subsidy for a year, nor move there to seek work.

That's a good thing for Germany now that a recession is coming...



If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 03:24:19 PM EST
[jaw hits floor]

that's bonkers !!! Even in the UK they will simply suspend benefit for the duration you are away, especially if you have a good reason such as a job interview.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 03:30:30 PM EST
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So when's the revolution start ?

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 03:31:35 PM EST
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Today is Bastille Day.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 03:47:08 PM EST
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Today is a militaro-nationalistic jamboree that does not even seek to remind anyone of the Bastille or the Revolution.

Only outside France is it known as Bastille Day.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 03:52:06 PM EST
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Co-option.

Who remembers Guy Fawkes tried to kill the bastards ? Who remembers Stonewall was a riot ?

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 03:59:09 PM EST
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It may end up being remembered as Rajoy Day in Spain.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:01:30 PM EST
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QueSeJodan Day.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:21:59 PM EST
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...every day is Fuck Them Day.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:38:20 PM EST
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Speaking of which:

AFP: Affaire Merah: les familles des victimes déplorent de n'avoir pas été conviées au défilé AFP: Merah Case: victims' families complain of not having been invited to military parade
TOULOUSE -- Les familles des trois militaires tués par Mohamed Merah à Toulouse et Montauban les 11 et 15 mars déplorent ne pas avoir été conviées au défilé du 14 juillet, soulignant que leurs enfants avaient été "assassinés par un terroriste sur le sol français", a indiqué l'un d'eux dimanche dans un communiqué.TOULOUSE - The families of three soldiers killed by Mohamed Merah in Toulouse and Montauban on 11 and 15 March lament not having been invited to the July 14 parade, noting that their children had been "murdered by a terrorist on French soil," said one of them Sunday in a statement.
"Nous ne comprenons pas pourquoi le gouvernement ne nous a pas conviés au défilé du 14 juillet, au même titre que les autres familles endeuillées par la perte de leurs proches qui étaient présentes", indique ce communiqué adressé à l'AFP par Albert Chennouf, père d'Abel Chennouf, un des deux militaires tués le 15 mars à Montauban."We do not understand why the government did not invited to the July 14 parade, just like other families bereaved by the loss of their loved ones who were present," said the statement sent to AFP by Albert Chennouf, father of Abel Chennouf, one of two soldiers killed March 15 in Montauban.
"Y a-t-il alors une différence entre nos enfants assassinés par un terroriste sur le sol français et des soldats morts sur le sol afghan ?", demandent les auteurs. Les familles on "senti un traitement de deux poids deux mesures", ajoutent-ils."Is there then a difference between our children murdered by a terrorist on French soil and soldiers killed on Afghan soil?". Families "feel a double standard at play," they add.

No of mention either of the families of these soldiers being invited by the President:

Two soldiers killed in French Guiana gold mining clash< French news | Expatica France

French officials vowed Thursday to track down illegal gold miners who killed two soldiers and wounded two gendarmes in an ambush in the overseas territory of French Guiana.

The men were killed Wednesday during an operation against illegal gold mining in the western Dorlin region of French Guiana, which is located along the northeast coast of South America.

A team of around a dozen paramilitary gendarmes and at least 18 soldiers were dropped into the area after a helicopter providing security for a legal mining operation in the remote region came under fire.

"They fell into an ambush" and faced heavy fire, said the local prefecture.

The lives of the two gendarmes were not thought to be in danger, said Colonel Didier Laumont, commander of the local gendarmerie.

President Francois Hollande offered condolences to the victims' families and vowed authorities would use all methods to track down the killers.

And unlike Merah's victims who were off-duty when murdered, these two servicemen died "in the line of duty". Apparently, you have to be killed on foreign soil to qualify for official recognition.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 11:28:05 AM EST
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:-))

To adapt a movie speech

"Citizen." That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is Bastille Day, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom... Not just from tyranny, oppression, or persecution... but from economic annihilation. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the Fourteenth of July will no longer be known as a French holiday, but as the day the world declared in one voice: "We will not go quietly into the night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate Bastille Day!


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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 03:56:59 PM EST
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The ElConfidencial article has disappeared. Here's an alternative, from PeriodistaDigital.com.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:02:45 PM EST
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What happened with forcing the unemployed to Lappland or loose benefits? Or are they going to do both and in effect end unemployment beenfits for all that stay or go?

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 06:16:23 PM EST
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Also, the Lappland thing was a quip by a member of the executive of the Employers' association CEOE, not a government policy. Though the guy is now a member of the new "technocratic" board member of the nationalised Bankia, so he must be on good terms with the government.

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 02:37:58 AM EST
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Nevermind a foreign job interview, what about stuff like the funeral of a relative?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 08:09:22 AM EST
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Que se jodan!

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 11:35:17 AM EST
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30 seconds to sum up Romney's Bain problem



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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:19:32 PM EST
Ouch, that's got to hurt

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:58:28 PM EST
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AFAIK, since I don't "consume" the major news (sic) media, the Bain story has yet to break-out the Leftish US blog-o-sphere.  Until it hits the MSM it's a big nothing.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 05:30:45 PM EST
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Well, it's difficult to break out when outlets such as the WaPo insist that, despite the paper trail, Romney must be telling the truth whilst the Obama campaign must be telling porkies. So it's all usual campaign he said she said.

They even say it's just an Obama swiftboating operation despite the obvious difference that the swiftboat was a lie and Bain is demonstrably true.

So, I think it's not getting through cos the media have an interest in perpetuating the show on the road. Blowing one candidate apart is not in the interests of their bottom line

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 05:39:06 PM EST
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yeah

The one thing going for the story breaking out of the "Liberal ghetto" is the media companies have to present the appearance of impartiality to have any hope of staying in business.  They are already shedding the under 55 demographic.  They cannot afford to lose all of it.

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 05:50:20 PM EST
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Just became a story:

Alabama's GOP Governor Calls On Romney To Release More Tax Returns: `Release Everything To The American People':

On the sidelines of the National Governors Association meeting in Williamsburg, Alabama's Republican governor, Robert Bentley, called on Romney to release all the documents requested of him.

"If you have things to hide, then maybe you're doing things wrong," Bentley said. "I think you ought to be willing to release everything to the American people."



Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 06:22:02 PM EST
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If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:19:36 PM EST
They barely got going

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:37:59 PM EST
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Interesting to see it on Sky News though.
Hard to think of any other UK TV channel that would have hosted YV.
Or any of the newspapers, apart from the G.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:54:33 PM EST
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Great one! I'm ready to lead CA once Willard destroys America. First edict ... everyone must live with at least one cat. Dogs are optional, as long as the kitties approve.

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 06:21:24 PM EST
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The Independene: Citizenship test to be rewritten by the Government (01 JULY 2012)
Immigrants will have to learn the first verse of the national anthem and be tested on key historical facts as part of the overhaul designed to place a greater focus on the nation's culture and past, The Sunday Times said.

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It will tell immigrants the UK is "historically" a Christian country with a "long and illustrious history" and include sections about key battles as well as British inventions, discoveries and culture.

A section on the Queen will also be included, with would-be-Britons also expected to memorise the profiles of famous artists, writers and playwrights such as William Shakespeare.

See Confessions of an immigrant: Knowledge of Life in the UK (2 July 2012)
On a more sinister level, the test handbook apparently served as one long propaganda piece. Drawn up by the Labour government in 2005, and unrevised since 2007, its subtext seemed clear: Labour governments are good to immigrants, and have a history of loosening restrictions, while Conservative ones are bad and keep tightening restrictions on immigration - and a point was made of highlighting whether it was a Labour or Conservative government responsible for relevant changes of law. In the book's potted account of the history of immigration in Britain, no mention is made of the Harold Wilson government's 1968 Commonwealth Immigration Act, probably the most racist piece of post-war British legislation, which severed non-white Commonwealth immigration whilst leaving white immigration almost intact. The manual might as well have had a bright red cover and the heading "VOTE LABOUR" atop every page. It therefore comes as no surprise that Theresa May has got round to announcing a revised edition, and I fully expect it to have a comparable "VOTE CONSERVATIVE" subtext.
(See the July 2 Salon)

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:44:10 PM EST
and include sections about key battles

Culloden? Or does "UK" mean England?

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 04:59:50 PM EST
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How about Dunkirk?

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 05:06:39 PM EST
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What about the capture and destruction of an enemy's capitol city during the Napoleonic Wars?

(Washington, D.C. in the year 1814.)

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 05:37:27 PM EST
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As I remember, one of the highlights of that critique was noting that many of the facts in the booklet were wrong, but you had to buy the booklet in order to learn the wrong answers so as to pass the test.

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 05:42:22 PM EST
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As well they should.

Learning and parroting the right wrong answers is a crucial skill to get and hold a corporate job.  

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 05:55:51 PM EST
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What about the preemptive naval bombing of the capital of a nominal ally and seizure of its fleet in 1807 just prior to said wars?

(Copenhagen, 1807)

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 02:34:52 AM EST
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If you only spend 20 minutes of the rest of your life on economics, go spend them here.
by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 03:31:54 AM EST
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Denmark had ships that could reach London and conspicious amounts of yellow cakes so a preemptive strike was clearly in order.

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by A swedish kind of death on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 04:49:09 PM EST
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Napoleon's army was marching north towards Denmark to seize them as well. So, it was either gonna be the French or the British who got to destroy Copenhagen and keep the fleet.

It was the British who won.

The Danes should have scuttled them. They could have re-floated them later

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by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 05:07:11 PM EST
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Dunkirk is a great excuse to get applicants to remember (or, based on their track record, to misremember) one of Churchill's speeches. And without 1814 the U.S. wouldn't have their national anthem.

In any case, the UK has an official view of each of these, even if it doesn't agree with what the rest of the world thinks. With Culloden that's not the case....

by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 04:07:36 AM EST
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Immigrants will have to learn the first verse of the national anthem and be tested on key historical facts

As always I wonder when "aboriginies" will face the same test under the threat of losing their citizenship...

It will tell immigrants the UK is "historically" a Christian country with a "long and illustrious history"

The UK is historically also a pagan country and also has a long and atrocious history. Will these be left out?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 08:20:32 AM EST
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The UK was created in 1707, so it doesn't have that long a history anyway.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 08:42:23 AM EST
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Goldman Sachs and a Sale Gone Horribly Awry - NYTimes.com

THE business deal from hell began to crumble even before the Champagne corks were popped.

In 1990, Jim and Janet Baker demonstrated the DragonDictate-30K speech recognition system.

The deal, the $580 million sale of a highflying technology company, Dragon Systems, had just been approved by its board and congratulations were being exchanged. But even then, at that moment of celebration, there was a sense that something was amiss.



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by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jul 14th, 2012 at 05:55:23 PM EST
And as usual when abroad, doing my best to talk politics with the locals. Curious thing...I've met no one who wants Turkey in the EU. Quite a few who admit having wanted to a few years ago, but none now. Can't say I'm surprised though I should note in passing that any reference to Turkey as anything other than a European nation is met with a protest. (For example, my flight back to Paris is, as with many flights from the middle east, at a very late hour, here at 4am. I've remarked that in Amman or Muscat there are great places in the airport where, once past security, one can sleep in waiting for the flight, and asked if here in Antalya it is the same, to which the reply has been no, it's just like in Paris, do you have the same there? To which of course the answer is no...non plus.)

I'd also add that all about me is growth. Construction everywhere, motorways being built or upgraded, new businesses opening, unemployment low, very low by European standards. The other day, in central Turkey, I chatted with a young Frenchman of Turkish origin from Lons Le Saunier, on vacation to visit grandparents, but who within a week of being here was offered a job. He tells me he's probably not going back.

Seing what I see is similar to what I saw in similarly promising and European Spain, 25 years ago. With the exception that the Turks don't have a German central bank to block their development and growth. And, if I were a young man, 25 years ago, I'd probably be learning Turkish, because this place looks like a place to be in many respects.

Hell, I may just learn Turkish at my own (middle) age.

I would be ashamed to admit that I had risen from the ranks. When I rise it will be with the ranks, and not from them Eugene Debs

by redstar on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 12:35:35 PM EST
If only they weren't trying to ban alcohol

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 12:55:57 PM EST
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Happiness is the best revenge

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 15th, 2012 at 12:57:01 PM EST
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