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Are you all watching the Olympic games or what?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 03:03:53 PM EST
No, I was swimming. Much better than watching sport. :-)
by Katrin on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 03:07:24 PM EST
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Swimming...

This is you then? ;-)

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 03:17:41 PM EST
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No, I am looking better!
by Katrin on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 03:32:07 PM EST
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So it must be nice warm up where you are. And definitely doing is more fun than watching.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 03:41:55 PM EST
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I was doing the Olympic gardening competition. I didn't get a medal, too slow at bean-picking.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 03:48:00 PM EST
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My beans are too slow at growing to be picked. :(
by Katrin on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 04:24:26 PM EST
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Me, what.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 03:24:52 PM EST
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No, I went to a beer festival in harwich, in an old napoleonic fort

I went up there about a year ago and the place was a hive of windfarm building activity. Now it's all gone

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 04:36:48 PM EST
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Napoleonic fort? I never knew he got as far as Harwich.

I am replete with Bavarian beer, and returning sadly home tomorrow. I can attest that the Baths are wonderful hosts, and they are eagerly looking forward to their visit. Trap: they are wine drinkers, Pace yourself.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 04:46:37 PM EST
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... looking forward to YOUR visit, Helen. Also eager to host other ETers!

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 04:49:25 PM EST
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As I am looking forward to seeing then again. Plus a couple of others on the trip.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 03:55:09 AM EST
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Can't wait to see you!  Keep us posted.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 04:28:27 AM EST
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Napoleonic-era fort. 1808 to be precise. They're scattered all round the south east coast as protection against a feared Napoleonic invasion fleet.

I know from Paris that the Baths are wine drinkers and, while I can drink wine to some extent, I prefer beer in most circumstances. Happily, they are in Bavaria where, if I'm not mistaken, there are one or two breweries in every village worth checking out. And Munich is a short rail journey away.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 03:54:17 AM EST
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Could barely fit into a dress yesterday, one that had fit fine before. So I'll be designated driver for a few months at least, while I work on fitness. It was a struggle to climb up to Eagle's Nest on Friday, about three hours hiking, all of it upwards. I'm going vegan until I lose at least 10 kilos.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 04:31:43 AM EST
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I keep thinking I should go on a diet, but then again, that means cutting down on the good stuff and life's too short

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 05:34:22 AM EST
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Alternative view of the good stuff:

More tofu, vegetables and fruit and nuts to go with your organic beer. Then the good life is even longer, so one can enjoy the organic chicken Thai rolls which go so well with your Little James' Basket Press white wine from Chateau St Cosme France.



"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 07:09:34 AM EST
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Just being flippant... I am often amused/mildly irritated to find traces of Boney (mostly worshipful) all over central Europe. I had a real "WTF" moment the other day in the Jesuit church in Munich : there's a damn great statue of his stepson Eugène de Beauharnais, Viceroy of Italy, who was also a Bavarian duke apparently.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Mon Jul 30th, 2012 at 05:00:37 AM EST
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Working.  

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere
by ATinNM on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 04:59:32 PM EST
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No, i'm in Martina Franca. If I get enough pictures, I'll try to do a diary on the Apulia and Umbria "private" (i.e. not part of Trenitalia) train systems when I get back.
by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 05:03:31 PM EST
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Trying to, in little drabs at a time.  I'm in China on a vacation tour, which oddly enough has dramatically expanded my Olympic watching ability.  I don't have a TV, and I hadnt seen good online watching abilities until I noticed the commercials about YouTube.  Which is blocked in China, I think.

So, a couple nights ago I watched a round of the Men's Gym prelims.  That was interesting,  Yesterday, I caught most of the rather dismal Tunisia Nigeria men's basketball game.  Last night CCTV was focused on the various shooting events, which are mind numbingly boring, so I instead watched guys catch and tag sharks on National Geographic.

The shooting events are silly.  Who uses air pistols and rifles outside the Olympics?  Its a skillet and a technology that only exists within the Olympic world.  If Baseball wasn't enough of a global sport to be continued in the Olympics, then how on earth do these entirely artificial events qualify?

People do shoot, and they do it competitively, using real weaponry, not these ridiculous rigs that are maximized in every possible way for accuracy at the expense of everything else.  Heres an event where a few of the lessons from competitive reality TV might be fruitfully applied.  Have the judges secretly choose a particular stock weapon for each round of the competition, and give the competetors a day to get used to the chosen weapon.  

by Zwackus on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 08:20:32 PM EST
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I don't share your point of view about shooting. Sure, it's divorced from reality; but synchronised diving doesn't have much application to everyday life either. Real weaponry carries a heavy weight of implied violence, which is completely sublimated by the olympic version.

Boring, yes. If you want excitement in a shooting event, I recommend the winter biathlon.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jul 30th, 2012 at 03:30:43 AM EST
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Driven to Dorset and back, taking a Caravan to the South Coast for My sister.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Jul 28th, 2012 at 07:10:31 PM EST


keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 03:57:22 AM EST
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Wow... early French & Saunders.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 04:34:15 AM EST
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Do you recognize the Five?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 05:46:40 AM EST
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No, just French and Saunders and, later on, Robbie Coltane.

'tis strange I should be old and neither wise nor valiant. From "The Maid's Tragedy" by Beaumont & Fletcher
by Wife of Bath (kareninaustin at g mail dot com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 03:19:53 PM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 03:24:06 PM EST
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five go mad in dorset

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 07:27:46 PM EST
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im sure their  feature film would go down much better than the first time in the states



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 08:06:58 PM EST
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Climate change study forces sceptical scientists to change minds | Environment | guardian.co.uk

The Earth's land has warmed by 1.5C over the past 250 years and "humans are almost entirely the cause", according to a scientific study set up to address climate-sceptic concerns about whether human-induced global warming is occurring.

Prof Richard Muller, a climate-sceptic physicist who founded the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature (Best) project, said he was "surprised" by the findings. "We were not expecting this, but as scientists, it is our duty to let the evidence change our minds." He added that he now considers himself a "converted sceptic" and his views had undergone a "total turnaround" in a short space of time.

"Our results show that the average temperature of the Earth's land has risen by two and a half degrees Fahrenheit over the past 250 years, including an increase of one and a half degrees over the most recent 50 years. Moreover, it appears likely that essentially all of this increase results from the human emission of greenhouse gases," Muller wrote in an opinion piece for the New York Times.



Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 09:59:02 AM EST
And $150,000 of the funding for the study was contributed by The Charles Koch Charitable Foundation, as it was conducted by one of the leading academic climate skeptics who was, ironically, converted by the findings of his study.

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 12:22:32 PM EST
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The moral: too many Kochs spoil the broth?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 12:40:26 PM EST
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A real Koch-up!

As the Dutch said while fighting the Spanish: "It is not necessary to have hope in order to persevere."
by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 02:55:23 PM EST
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Redemption of a Koch's huckster?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Mon Jul 30th, 2012 at 03:38:07 AM EST
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No, the guy seems to have been a genuine sceptic, as opposed to a denier.

Given the politicisation of the science, scepticism is a reasonable position. Denial isn't.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 1st, 2012 at 08:03:28 AM EST
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(Belated comment)

The original NYT piece includes this (my emphasis):

The Conversion of a Climate-Change Skeptic - NYTimes.com

These findings are stronger than those of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the United Nations group that defines the scientific and diplomatic consensus on global warming. In its 2007 report, the I.P.C.C. concluded only that most of the warming of the prior 50 years could be attributed to humans. It was possible, according to the I.P.C.C. consensus statement, that the warming before 1956 could be because of changes in solar activity, and that even a substantial part of the more recent warming could be natural.

So they didn't just reinforce the scientific consensus, but claim to have reduced further uncertainties which sceptics clung to.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Aug 1st, 2012 at 07:25:39 AM EST
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Wicked problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  1. There is no definitive formulation of a wicked problem (defining wicked problems is itself a wicked problem).
  2. Wicked problems have no stopping rule.
  3. Solutions to wicked problems are not true-or-false, but better or worse.
  4. There is no immediate and no ultimate test of a solution to a wicked problem.
  5. Every solution to a wicked problem is a "one-shot operation"; because there is no opportunity to learn by trial and error, every attempt counts significantly.
  6. Wicked problems do not have an enumerable (or an exhaustively describable) set of potential solutions, nor is there a well-described set of permissible operations that may be incorporated into the plan.
  7. Every wicked problem is essentially unique.
  8. Every wicked problem can be considered to be a symptom of another problem.
  9. The existence of a discrepancy representing a wicked problem can be explained in numerous ways. The choice of explanation determines the nature of the problem's resolution.
  10. The planner has no right to be wrong (planners are liable for the consequences of the actions they generate).


The power of knowledge is in mortal combat with the knowledge of power. It really is that simple... That's the Edenic apple we are all munching on.
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 02:12:55 PM EST
I saw a theater piece last night called in German "Die Bizarren Experimente des Dr. Schulte." Was told it's by Sartre, but i don't know what he called it in French or the english translation. I don't know if it's a stand alone piece or adapted from something else.

I'd like to find the text. ET?

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 02:40:40 PM EST
It's based loosely on Sartre's Huis Clos/No Exit/Geschlossene Gesellschaft.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 03:00:01 PM EST
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Thanks much tbg. hope to find some text.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Mon Jul 30th, 2012 at 03:03:01 AM EST
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I enjoyed the mens bike road race but I went out before they got off Box Hill. however, I'd already noticed that the commentary information was chaotic and sometimes just plain wrong. Apparently the BBC ended up announcing that the names of the guys who came 3rd, 4th and 5th actually came 26th, 27th and 28th. Which, I'm sure you'll agree, is not an entirely minor error.

Fortunately the women's race was more informed, at least they knew the information they were getting was wrong and so were trying to correct the on screen info. But it was a very exciting race with a breakaway which contained the 3 medal winners getting away from Box Hill and running fast all the way back into london. I have to admit I was out of my seat at times

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 02:43:20 PM EST
apparently the chip timing system they were using was disrupted by the sheer number of mobile phones round the timing station, according to one version of what went wrong I heard. The BBC's post race commentary was utterly utterly awful.  Matt Dawson should never be allowed near cycle racing ever again.

Both races were excellent for the same reason, strong break aways got out and the main peloton didn't pull them back. why that happened was for different reasons.

Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sun Jul 29th, 2012 at 07:34:42 PM EST
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