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Interesting:

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by DoDo on Wed Aug 1st, 2012 at 01:50:47 PM EST
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How did they get these values?

res humà m'és aliè

by Antoni Jaume on Wed Aug 1st, 2012 at 02:12:15 PM EST
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Possibly from public statements by the governments?

If you are not convinced, try it on someone who has not been entirely debauched by economics. — Piero Sraffa

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Aug 1st, 2012 at 03:58:45 PM EST
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Where is a copy of the last version of the ET political compass? (IIRC it was on the ET wiki [RIP].)

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Wed Aug 1st, 2012 at 04:49:02 PM EST
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Found it!

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Wed Aug 1st, 2012 at 05:10:24 PM EST
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Oh, and I find myself this time at:

Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.21

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Wed Aug 1st, 2012 at 02:00:35 PM EST
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Where do you find out what your numbers are?

by sgr2 on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 05:55:12 AM EST
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On the site The Political Compass. Also, direct link to the test.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 06:39:10 AM EST
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mine -8.25, -5.49

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by Antoni Jaume on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 07:21:25 AM EST
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Ha. I feared I might be tending centrist, what with incipient old age and everything.

Economic Left/Right: -7.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.10

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by eurogreen on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 08:13:28 AM EST
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Pff. Splitter.

-9.00
-8.27

Von überall könnte das Volk, Urbrut alles Undemokratischen, Zelle des Terrors, über die gewählten Hüter von Wachstum und Wohlstand® kommen. - flatter

by generic on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 08:27:09 AM EST
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-9.75, -8.51

by Katrin on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 09:27:32 AM EST
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Moved to the Left on economics since the last time I took it:

-9.12, -6.46

Ever since I learnt about confirmation bias I've started seeing it everywhere

by ATinNM on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 11:37:22 AM EST
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-9.75, -9.03 (none / 1)

I've moved left and down.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 12:23:59 PM EST
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Thanks, I think.

Yikes, no wonder I have problems fitting in. My score doesn't look like anybody else who has posted theirs. I seem to be way out there in bottom left field. Just for some perspective, if either afew or melo are around and can recall their numbers, could you please post them? I'm just curious if I'm in bad man's land all by myself or if I might have some company somewhere, anywhere nearby.

by sgr2 on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 12:05:36 PM EST
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The 2006 results can be seen in the chart.

But many appears to have moved (from comments here, not a rigorous analysis).

How do we evaluate the results? If Mig is up to it, making another graph would give some idea.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 12:27:45 PM EST
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-8.88, -8.05 (4.00 / 2)

That's my new score.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 01:20:32 PM EST
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I seem to be way out there in bottom left field.

Hm? Amost everyone on ET is in the bottom left field.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 04:09:13 PM EST
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Well yes, but no.

Comparing the location of my dot on the graph on the test result at the Political Compass site with the position of names on the ET Political Compass previously posted, my "dot" would appear to be located a little left of you (somewhere between you and afew), and on about the same level as a swedish kind of death; yet the numbers make no sense at all. -3.62 and -6.31?

by sgr2 on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 04:48:14 PM EST
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Have you noted that the ET-graph (from 2006) is not evenly scaled?

-3.62 economic and -6.31 social lands you near MarekNYC (whom we have not seen for some time).

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 06:20:22 PM EST
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Note that the ET graph has 0,0 as the upper right hand corner while the Political Compass has 10,10 as the upper right hand corner. In other words, ET is located entirely within the lower left hand quadrant of the Political Compass!

by jam on Fri Aug 3rd, 2012 at 09:02:45 AM EST
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IIRC, Migeru had trouble getting the individual dots and names to be separately readable, hence a large image of the bottom left quadrant and an adapted scale.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Aug 3rd, 2012 at 09:31:57 AM EST
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Thanks for pointing that out. Now it makes more sense.

by sgr2 on Fri Aug 3rd, 2012 at 01:44:34 PM EST
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The Political Compass - Test

you asked, madame?

Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38

The power of knowledge is in mortal combat with the knowledge of power. It really is that simple... That's the Edenic apple we are all munching on.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Aug 3rd, 2012 at 02:39:37 PM EST
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It's a bit stupid, e.g. "A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system."

It is true that this is significant advantage. Doesn't mean I think it's a good idea.

by njh on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 12:30:09 PM EST
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It has - I think - a broad target audience. And it is also a bit US-centric (then again, our world is US-centric).

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by A swedish kind of death on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 12:40:24 PM EST
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I beg to differ: I'm not sure avoiding all the arguments is an advantage. The state will go ahead with a lot more stupid, dangerous or evil schemes.

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by DoDo on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 04:11:03 PM EST
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Yes, but the context was "delay". Participation costs a lot of time.

by Katrin on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 04:59:42 PM EST
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-6.25, -6.77 (4.00 / 2)

Guess I'm still a hippy, dippy.

by ElaineinNM on Thu Aug 2nd, 2012 at 05:24:15 PM EST
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Re: -9.00, -7.18 (4.00 / 4)

But my point is that haste makes waste. It's no advantage when the undelayed reaction to a nuclear disaster or earthquake is a media blackout, or the quick reaction to low grain yield is requisition from the farmers for the army to the point that they'll die of famine, or if the quick reaction to a sovereign debt crisis is the imposition of the crazy ideological policies of some boys from Chicago.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Fri Aug 3rd, 2012 at 02:47:30 AM EST
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Re: -9.00, -7.18 (4.00 / 4)

Of course it's an advantage, just not for you or me. That's the whole point of a one-party system, though: it's an advantage for someone. "advantage" depends on the point of view. I'm completely with you that it's not desirable or an advantage for the 99%, though.

by Katrin on Fri Aug 3rd, 2012 at 04:53:07 AM EST
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It's not even an advantage for the powers-that-be if the result is not what was planned. The Chernobyl media blackout brought a blowback in the form of public distrust and outrage from other countries reached by the plume. The famine engineered by Stalin in the Ukraine killed off the farmers who would work the fields to produce grain the next year. In Pinochet's Chile, there were beneficiaries of the initial bubble, but the lack of the expected growth (and expected rise in tax incomes to be spent on pet projects like military equipment) wasn't what the regime dreamt about.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Fri Aug 3rd, 2012 at 05:11:28 AM EST
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