Rmoney and Ryawn: Bain & Pain Inc. | 108 comments (108 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

And yet, being ethically challenged is what kept him on the list until just before the end.

It was just that there was an ethically challenged contender who was even more appealing to the radical reactionary wing of the Republican party, who need to be on board both for base turnout and for voter suppression.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Thu Aug 16th, 2012 at 11:16:03 PM EST
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I don't think the Republicans see anything ethically challenged about Ryan. Has he cheated on his wife and fathered children out of wedlock? Is he a closet gay? Has been accused of a felony? If not, he's just fine by the base and by the party establishment

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Aug 17th, 2012 at 05:19:27 AM EST
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I didn't say "being seen as ethically challenge", I said "being ethically challenged". He is just now coming out of a mini-controversy about voting against the stimulus, writing five letters to two departments in support of gaining stimulus funds, and then after that saying on talk radio that he of course would never vote against a bill like that and then ask for the funding, and had not asked for any stimulus funding for his district.

I won't even attempt to paraphrase the excuse that he made, since word salad like that needs to be quoted verbatim. Its just hard to remember something that makes so little sense.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Aug 17th, 2012 at 11:53:25 AM EST
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No doubt he'll employ the "they're all doing it" defence...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Fri Aug 17th, 2012 at 03:02:25 PM EST
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As near as I can understand it, he is retroactively not writing those letters, it was all his staff treating it as something routine and he had not realized it was tainted stimulus money he was asking for rather than normal government pork.

Really:

"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled. This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier," he continued. "But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that. Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Aug 17th, 2012 at 03:59:39 PM EST
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He admits he is unable to lead any administration by that.

by Katrin on Sat Aug 18th, 2012 at 07:09:09 AM EST
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Nah (4.00 / 6)

Don't you realise how hard it is to get good staff these days? Even Romney claimed tax exemptions in Utah whist claiming to be living in Massachusetts (for the purpose of running for Governor) because of a mistake by some underling.

It's always the little people's fault...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sat Aug 18th, 2012 at 07:34:10 AM EST
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Sure. There is a danger in overdoing it, though. People will ask why R. attracts the stupids. Obviously whenever there is hiring to be done he hits on the idiots. The idiots then do the most stupid things and the boss doesn't notice until it is pointed out to him extra clearly. He really shouldn't run for an office. He will only attract the votes of the stupids.

by Katrin on Sat Aug 18th, 2012 at 09:45:29 AM EST
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I think the greater problem is one of a failure to take responsibility. As a manager you ARE responsible for the actions of your staff and I have no doubt Romney and Ryan new precisely what their staff were doing - it is just convenient for them to blame others for their own chicanery. President Truman had a sign on his desk: "The Buck stops here". It's time Romney Ryan stopped trying to pass their responsibilities onto others: If you sign a document - YOU are accountable for it.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sat Aug 18th, 2012 at 11:33:36 AM EST
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But, he takes responsibility. He says so.

Surely nobody would say they are taking responsibility in a statement in which they are disclaiming responsibility?

Like I say somewhere else in this thread (inflated into a diary at some other sites), looking at the numbers of the current state of play, the Ryan pick is not about persuading swing voters, its about amping up the base vote for the Republicans and maintaining enthusiasm for Democratic voter suppression, so a Romney or Ryan defense has to be read in terms of giving a rationalization for supporters to hang onto, not about persuading the skeptical.

I've been accused of being a Marxist, yet while Harpo's my favourite, it's Groucho I'm always quoting. Odd, that.

by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Sat Aug 18th, 2012 at 12:14:07 PM EST
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Booman is good on this (none / 1)

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/8/18/9360/57252

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Sat Aug 18th, 2012 at 11:42:09 AM EST
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