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What specific clerical danger do you think Charlie Hebdo is reacting to? I don't see any. And Charlie Hebdo having been firebombed earlier doesn't change the fact that their earlier cartoons publication was an equally pointless act.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Jan 5th, 2013 at 04:52:56 PM EST
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In short : salafism. A clear and present danger in parts of my town, and most major French cities. Young dudes with wooly beards and long white robes, recently indoctrinated with tribal customs from the Arabian peninsula which bear little relation to their own cultural heritage, and who generally have very little understanding of the actual teachings of Mahomet.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Sun Jan 6th, 2013 at 05:00:24 PM EST
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And do you really find it likely that salafists will lose influence if Muslims are angered by disrespectful (note the diplomatic wording) cartoons?
by Katrin on Sun Jan 6th, 2013 at 05:08:08 PM EST
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In a word : yes. It's already happening.

I think the arson incident was a watershed : French Muslims asked themselves whether they had more in common with the arsonists or with CH. To caricature a bit, the split is between those who can take a joke and those who prefer civil war.

I probably give too much importance to this incident, bearing in mind the political transformations in North Africa going on at the same time. Most French Muslims still have family ties with North Africa. Everyone was against the old regimes (this was undoubtedly a watershed moment for many French non-Muslims, who found themselves in tune with the hopes and aspirations of those of Muslim heritage), and now the great majority find themselves in favour of liberal democracy and its associated freedoms as opposed to theocracy. This helps to put things in perspective.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jan 7th, 2013 at 03:37:04 AM EST
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How odd that you focus so much on that magazine and the arson. What about the day when the "burqa" ban came into force and there was the hunt on women with headscarves? I'll never forget the horror of my twitter timeline of that day. But then, it was only women who got attacked, not a building.
by Katrin on Mon Jan 7th, 2013 at 06:51:03 AM EST
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has poured ridicule on the wearing of burqas, (and a feminist columnist described the burqa as "social death for women")

But they didn't advocat a ban on burqas, as far as I can remember. That was legislated by Sarkozy's government.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jan 7th, 2013 at 07:40:27 AM EST
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How odd that you focus so much on that magazine

Well, after all, "that magazine" is the subject of this thread. How odd that you should keep trying to assimilate it with right-wing governmental provocations against Muslims.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Mon Jan 7th, 2013 at 08:04:14 AM EST
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