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I don't think he's interested in making a contribution in a positive sense.

One point is that it is quite untrue that there is or never has been discussion here of different aspects of political Islam, Islamism, etc., and the "West". Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, so-called "Muslim" rioting in France, the London Tube bombing, the Danish cartoons, the Toulouse shootings, are some topics that come to mind. I suppose an index of past debates (often copious) needs compiling, but I haven't got time right now.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:16:35 PM EST
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@afew, I resent your quick and dirty remark.

I was asking a question about feeble secularism.

I also resent your presumption of trolling.

You might want to think it over.

Align culture with our nature. Ot else!

by ormondotvos (ormond.otvosnospamgmialcon) on Sat Jan 12th, 2013 at 11:06:07 PM EST
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ormondotvos:
your quick and dirty remark

If anything was "quick and dirty", it was your diary. A few provocative lines on a highly-charged topic is not the kind of contribution that gives you the moral right to judge others' contributions.

ormondotvos:

I also resent your presumption of trolling.

The diary is not only pitifully lacking in development of your ideas, your past record on ET is one of leaving provocative one-line comments and not returning for any further discussion. In the case of this diary, you weren't here either for the discussion. Concluding that you were not interested in making a positive contribution seemed evident to a number of users, not just me.

The presumption of ormondotvos trolling is also shared among a number of users here, as has been the case, as you know, in other places on the internet. So resent away.

In fact, it takes chutzpah to set off a shitstorm on a forum, then come back later and whine.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jan 13th, 2013 at 04:22:17 AM EST
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The presumption of ormondotvos trolling is also shared among a number of users here

An unkind judgment of our user base. An opinion formed on the basis of evidence is a conclusion, not a presumption.

/PN

- Jake

Friends come and go. Enemies accumulate.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Jan 13th, 2013 at 08:48:31 AM EST
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