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No debate about religion can be solved, because it is all based on axioms asserted from a basis of tradition, prejudice, greed, thirst for power, hatred, fear, etc. You simply cannot make headway in a religious argument, because logic does not apply. That is the great discovery of the Enlightenment, which has been sadly forgotten in many quarters--or never experienced in others.

So all these fall into one big category called "people who take religion seriously":

  • Radical Islamists.
  • Semi-secular Moslems.
  • The Pope.
  • Secular Europeans who pay taxes to support churches.
  • Fundamentalist Americans who stand on street corners and shout about Bible passages.
  • Radio preachers.
  • NASCAR fans and rodeo cowboys.
  • Atheists who think about their atheism.
  • Cosmologists.

It is a waste of time to talk with any of them.
by asdf on Thu Jan 3rd, 2013 at 11:48:10 AM EST
The ideologues, which is the general term, who will not submit to evidential testing of their ideology, are my target.

Governments, to be stable, must be based on force, or the consent of the governed.

You disagree?

Align culture with our nature. Ot else!

by ormondotvos (ormond.otvosnospamgmialcon) on Sat Jan 12th, 2013 at 10:19:43 PM EST
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