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the only reaction that I can find to the publication is the above press release, in various papers; a prudent "no comment" from the government spokesperson (she doesn't want to judge it because she hasn't seen it yet! I like her); disapproval from the foreign minister (oil on the fire) because he's negotiating with islamic partisans holding French hostages in Africa.
One opinion piece in l'Express (centre right) calling for Charlie Hebdo to be banned. A bit more reaction from North African web sites (a key "market" for the culture war, and for CH), rather mixed and moderate.

Nothing from French Islamists so far, nor from any "official" French Muslim source.

"Vos avis" sur BD de Charlie Hebo sur Mahomet : pourquoi les musulmans s'agacent - BFMTV.com "Your opinion" on BD Charlie Hebo about Muhammad: Why Muslims are annoyed - BFMTV.com
Mais certains s'agacent de "provocations" à répétition. "Cela va être perçu comme une provocation par les musulmans de France", avance Samir Amghar, auteur de l'essai Le salafisme aujourd'hui.But some are annoyed by repeated "provocations". "It will be seen as a provocation by Muslims of France," suggests Samir Amghar, author of the essay Salafism today .
Toutefois, ajoute-t-il, "ils ont intériorisé la culture politique de la société française qui incite à respecter l'opinion de l'autre. Ils ne vont donc pas se mobiliser." C'est d'ailleurs l'avis de Younès Chabchoub : "S'ils veulent faire des dessins, je ne vais pas, en tant que musulman, le leur interdire !"However, he adds, "they have internalized the political culture of French society that encourages respect the opinions of others. They will not mobilize on this issue." This is also the opinion of Younis Chabchoub: "If they want to make drawings, as a Muslim, I'm not going to forbid them!"

Provisional conclusion : This publication is a victory in the culture war; a positive step in the normalisation of Islam.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II
by eurogreen on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 09:35:33 AM EST
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eurogreen:
Provisional conclusion : This publication is a victory in the culture war; a positive step in the normalisation of Islam

How many women assaulted and their headscarves torn off their heads? How many mosques torched? Does that even interest you or are you only interested in the victims being silent?

by Katrin on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 10:25:27 AM EST
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Publication of a comic book on the life of Mohamed.

Consequences :

How many women assaulted and their headscarves torn off their heads?

Zero. (so far)

How many mosques torched?

Zero. (so far)

are you only interested in the victims being silent?

No, I'm interested in the victims of this "outrage" speaking up. I'm listening. I'm not hearing them. That's interesting. Maybe it's not an outrage?

I may have misused the phrase "culture war". You seem to see it as meaning "war on immigrants", "war on the visibly different", "religious oppression", or something of that sort. I'm talking about conflicting views of religious culture, and how far you're entitled to impinge on other people's freedom. Publishing a comic book (which contains no racism, no insults) creates zero victims. If it should inspire pogroms, as you seem to fear, I will be very surprised indeed, and will undoubtedly change my views.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 10:55:09 AM EST
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That would be the first time that the number of anti-Muslim incidents didn't shoot up during such campaigns. Are you sure you looked for reports, and not only in media that wouldn't report anti-Muslim violence anyway?  
by Katrin on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 11:39:01 AM EST
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That would be the first time that the number of anti-Muslim incidents didn't shoot up during such campaigns

I suppose you have a reference for that?

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:12:40 PM EST
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by Katrin on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:23:48 PM EST
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What, you want me to do the work for you, and search for correlations between Charlie Hebdo publications of cartoons of Mohamed and spikes in islamophobic incidents?

I'm not very good at statistics. Try asking Jake.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 05:01:21 PM EST
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I couldn't know that reading the table of contents and going to the relevant page is too difficult a statistical task for you. I see. The diagramme on page 13 and the paragraph of text under it show the nexus between Islamophobian propaganda campaigns and attacks on Muslim individuals and institutions. You are probably able to find page 13, aren't you?
by Katrin on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 06:57:40 PM EST
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The trimester March to May 2011 saw more than 100 acts (40% of the total). These "over-­‐ active" periods of islamophobia tend to follow periods when islamophobic themes have been particularly present in public debate and in the national media. Notably, the National Education Minister, Luc Chatel, gave a speech on the 2nd March 2011 validating the acts of a Mrs. Palacio, the Headteacher of Joséphine Baker school who refused to allow veiled mothers to accompany their children on school trips. We also note the "debate on Islam and secularism" launched by the UMP in April. Further, on 11 April 2011 the law of 11 October 2010 forbidding the covering of the face in public came into effect, commonly known as the law against the burqa. There were also certains slip-­‐ups made by the Interior Minister, Claude Guéant, in April 2011 - he spoke on LCI TV about "the growing number of practising Muslims", with "a certain number of behaviours which pose a problem". The "Quick Halal" affair also contributed to the reinforcement of this islamophobic dynamic.

When you talk about "such campaigns", I assumed naïvely that it was on the topic of our discussion, i.e. publications concerning Mohamed in Charlie Hebdo. I see now that you somehow thought I was defending the islamophobic provocations of Sarkozy's government. That must have been very distressing to you, but I really don't see how you got that idea.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 07:29:04 PM EST
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Ah, that explains it. You are right: it was really naïve to assume I would treat Islamophobian campaigns differently because the perpetrators are different entities.
by Katrin on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 07:59:28 PM EST
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Indeed. Since your very first intervention in this thread was a spurious attempt to assimilate Charlie Hebdo with right-wing Islamophobic hate sites, it's hardly surprising that, at the other end of the thread, you are doing your faux-naïve routine again, equating Charlie Hebdo with a right-wing islamophobic government.

It's disappointing though.

It is rightly acknowledged that people of faith have no monopoly of virtue - Queen Elizabeth II

by eurogreen on Fri Jan 4th, 2013 at 09:07:53 PM EST
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Well, I was reading along (in Katrin's link) and came to this:

"A worshipped secularism
The idea of "secularism" - a word which is being gradually corrupted - is changing in the collective imagination into a "sacred value", an immutable dogma around which is being built a dialogue of worship. Secularism is perfect, beautiful, the founder of French identity, a universal value - it is not to be touched. And yet, it was in order to "perfect", "reaffirm" and "reinforce" secularism that anti-­‐Islamic laws were passed in 2004 and 2010, and why in 2012 there is a proposal to review the Constitution in order to modify its definition of secularism. Rather than being a value which allows all religions to be expressed and to coexist side by side, secularism has conditioned "coexistence" to signify the censoring of any religious expression. There is now an ever-growing divergence between historical secularism which was open and inclusive, and today's political secularism, which is closed and exclusive."

and so I stopped reading.

Align culture with our nature. Ot else!

by ormondotvos (ormond.otvosnospamgmialcon) on Sat Jan 12th, 2013 at 10:59:28 PM EST
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