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You don't even have to be a great leader to see this is making Labour irrelevant.  If you are pro-Brexit, you vote Tory or UKIP. If you are for Remain, you vote Lib Dem or Scots Nationalist. By whipping his MP's to vote for A.50, he is making Labour complicit in the outcome.  If it turns out to be a success, the Tories will benefit, if it is a disaster, as I expect, the Lib Dems will become the main opposition and perhaps ultimately the dominant Governing party.

He could have said he supported the referendum outcome, which was to remain in the Single Market.  That way his hands are clean when the Tories screw up the negotiations and he can legitimately claim it is all their fault for not having a proper plan and negotiating strategy.  This way, it is Labour Lose Lose.

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Thu Jan 26th, 2017 at 04:51:30 PM EST
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So suppose May tells them they can save on toilet paper if they use soft paper for their amendments? Will he whip for A50 or not?

by generic on Thu Jan 26th, 2017 at 09:03:10 PM EST
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675 likes over a period of hours.

From the leader of the Labour Party.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Fri Jan 27th, 2017 at 01:00:07 AM EST
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That's mostly because his Twitter account sucks. A bit more effort here could go a long way.
by generic on Fri Jan 27th, 2017 at 08:30:38 AM EST
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Labour may oppose Article 50 Bill if amendments rejected, Diane Abbott says | The Independent -
Labour may yet oppose the Article 50 Bill if its amendments are thrown out, the party said today.

Diane Abbott, the Shadow Home Secretary, created further confusion about Labour's stance when she said it would "review our position" if it failed to change the legislation.

So why not say that in the first place?

by generic on Fri Jan 27th, 2017 at 02:43:21 PM EST
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I don't know, Frank, never underestimate the Lib Dems' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
by rifek on Fri Jan 27th, 2017 at 12:08:51 AM EST
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Well they are so used to defeat, winning would be quite disconcerting for them.  But this isn't really about them or their organisational prowess. Where else have the 48% Remain voters to go to? Where else have those Leave voters who were merely protesting against austerity to go to when they realise austerity is going to get worse even as corporate taxes go down? Where else have those who thought they would be staying in the Single Market to go to when they realise that is no longer on offer? Where else have those who feel the Tories are making a complete mess of what may have been a legitimate choice to go to? Labour are now committed to supporting the Tories all the way...

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Fri Jan 27th, 2017 at 12:20:35 AM EST
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"Where Else Do You Have To Go?" has always been the Lib Dems' marching song, and they went straight down the rat hole with it under Clegg.  Maybe people have short enough memories that they'll buy it again.
by rifek on Sat Jan 28th, 2017 at 04:44:17 AM EST
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