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My guess it will take 5 - 10 years for the true horrors of Brexit to unfold hitting ordinary people very hard. In the meantime any doubters and naysayers will be accused of weakness, defeatism and lack of resolution - as Rogers is being pilloried now.
Will Labour be back in power in that time-frame? If so they will be blamed for the economic disaster, failure to negotiate wonderful trade deals, public service melt-down, Scottish independence, and not getting rid of N. Ireland quickly enough...
Their one "success" will be to reduce immigration from the EU. Sterling devaluation and economic melt-down would have seen to that anyway. Index of Frank's Diaries
Even when Corbyn first won the leadership election, he was unlikely to be Prime Minister. He doesn't have that sort of personality to be a modern leader, but it was much to be hoped that he would put forward a set of policy initiavies that would cement the move of Labour away from slavish neo-conservative economic policies.
Sadly, Corbyn has not stepped up his game; he is by nature a protester and a quiet worker behind the scenes when what was needed was somebody who could seize the PLP by the scruff of the neck and bring them to his bidding. However, he is more noted for absence than presence. Even the policy ideas have failed to materialise. If there is an alternative Labour vision of Britain post-Brexit, even in outline, then so far he has failed to let anybody know what it might look like.
And fialing that, Labour will continue to come second. Good grief, even the Lib Dems have more idea of who they are right now.
Britain needs a new conservative set of ideas to combat a near 4 decades record of utter failure. Labour needs a new leader, Corbyn has failed. keep to the Fen Causeway
Britain needs a new conservative set of ideas to combat a near 4 decades record of utter conservative failure. Labour needs a new leader, Corbyn has failed. keep to the Fen Causeway
But Corbyn hasn't moved from a defensive crouch, he isn't creating a new ideology, people like Steve Kean and Varoufakis were brought in with great fanfare to advise on economic ideas and then were ostentatiously ignored.
There are no grand plans for jobs, nor for homes, welfare or services. It's all a big vague nothing. Corbyn was elected to change the direction of policy, but he just seems storm-tossed and adrift.
I still think he is better than a return to Blairite neo-conservatism that was on offer from at the original election nor from the faux-socialism allegedly offered by Owen Smith. As I said at the time, he's just a place holder, but he's not even doing that much.
Incidentally, Andy Burnham, one of the Gang of 3 from 2015, is now vying to be Labour's candidate for Mayor of Manchester. His pitch is to position Manchester as creating "Northern Labour" as opposed to Corbyn's metropolitan Labour. His catch-phrase is "protecting the safety of our streets"
Guardian - John Harris - The rise of a northern Labour party
And in the buildup to the campaign, with the tacit support of some MPs, he has come up with a new definition of what he wants to represent: "Northern Labour" - which, he says, "needs to speak very directly to people and represent them properly in terms of the way [they] think and feel". This does not take much decoding. While Corbyn and his inner circle have rejected any calls for Labour to sound tougher on immigration, Burnham has been on manoeuvres, controversially claiming that Labour's stance is undermining "the safety of our streets" and the vote to leave the EU was partly about "more control in our immigration system"
This does not take much decoding. While Corbyn and his inner circle have rejected any calls for Labour to sound tougher on immigration, Burnham has been on manoeuvres, controversially claiming that Labour's stance is undermining "the safety of our streets" and the vote to leave the EU was partly about "more control in our immigration system"
Which, as I've always said, is Tory-lite, racist-lite and probably with a kicking for welfare recipients to prove that they are tough on society's "freeloaders"
That's not Labour, that's ukip. Andy Burnham has lost his way keep to the Fen Causeway
Burnham went to a Hillsborough memorial service to announce a series of platitudes and do nothing, but was shocked by the amount of hostility received
His fear of the loss of his local seat being a Liverpool MP was the thing that got the party policy turned round and the Inquest started. his Northern Labour rubbish is entirely dependent on his campaign to be mayor of Manchester, where it is thought that several districts of Manchester may go UKIP Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
"Labour is not wedded to freedom of movement for EU citizens as a point of principle, but I don't want that to be misinterpreted, nor do we rule it out," he said.
From reading the rest he clearly hasn't changed his mind on immigration. So who thought putting that in the speech was a good idea and what was it supposed to signal? Loss of nerves?
I also must agree with Richard Seymour that "the populist turn" still needs some work:
Corbyn, the Unlikely Populist | Jacobin -
But as Bernie Sanders demonstrated without conceding an inch to this sort of politics, it is possible to articulate a class hatred sincerely and effectively. One can, in the name of every casualty of capitalism, uncompromisingly revile the "billionaire class" and its political advocates, without giving ground to bigotry. Corbyn, though, is currently too nice to be a populist: hate is not his metier. If Labour really wants to go down this path, he will either have to draw out the more lupine aspect of his appearance and character, or delegate nastiness to one of his colleagues.
Corbyn, though, is currently too nice to be a populist: hate is not his metier. If Labour really wants to go down this path, he will either have to draw out the more lupine aspect of his appearance and character, or delegate nastiness to one of his colleagues.
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