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Frank, I'm not sure I agree with the following:

The bottom line is that if the UK wants to restrict EU immigration into the UK, it will have to implement some form of immigration controls with respect to travel from Ireland. That would be in breach of the Common Travel area unless implemented at (say) places of work in the UK and not as part of entry/exit procedures.  No doubt the UK authorities have thought all of that through...

As far as I know (and please correct me if I'm wrong) you already have to go through border control when entering Ireland (at least in Dublin Airport). In the UK airports, there is a CTA channel, but not in the Irish airports. There definitely used to be such a channel (I remember being indignant the first time I was forced through Passport control when flying from Galway to Dublin a decade ago; I didn't have ID on me so the Garda shrugged and sent me on my way :-) (he did ask for my boarding card - fortunately, I hadn't dropped it).

I guess you mean that this would need to be implemented also in the sea ports...

by piobar on Wed Aug 16th, 2017 at 02:09:22 PM EST
In practice you need a passport flying to/from an Irish airport as an ID document because the Irish Government doesn't issue any lesser ID documents  (other than driving licences) and airlines such as Ryanair insist on them even if they are not technically, legally required between Ireland and the UK. Theoretically, you can be asked for your Irish passport to prove you are entitled to avail of the CTA (Common Travel Area) for which you don't need a passport! I suspect this requirement also prevents airports having to quarantine or separate passengers from UK as opposed to EU airports and simplifies passenger handling more generally. As you say, Irish sea ferries don't impose a similar requirement and there are no controls with N. Ireland and onward..

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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Aug 16th, 2017 at 02:28:17 PM EST
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Aer Lingus does not so insist, for example.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 16th, 2017 at 02:40:08 PM EST
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Ah yes, but the no CTA channel is part of the reaction to Irish immigration realising they couldn't just single out dark skinned people any more, so they simply forgot to include it when they redid the airport.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Aug 16th, 2017 at 02:39:26 PM EST
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Given both Ireland and UK are both outside Schengen, passports between Ireland/EU and UK/EU were always required in any case, and the EU won't be overly concerned about Ireland/UK travel for Irish people as the CTA is not an EU treaty.


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by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on Wed Aug 16th, 2017 at 03:02:16 PM EST
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