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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Re: Missed a perfectly good chance
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Do you remember the name of the program?

Would be fun to watch if it is accessible somewhere.

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In story: A good example of how Brits were mislead on the EU

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Commissioner Sicco Mansholt and the creation of the CAP

Dutch minister urged to resign in CAP row | The Guardian - Aug. 2005 |

Dutch Agriculture Minister Cees Veerman is being urged to resign over his ownership of a French farm which campaigners say gets more than £100,000 a year in subsidies from European taxpayers.

Opposition Green party politicians have demanded an emergency debate in parliament this week, after The Observer revealed on 14 August that Veerman's farm in the Dordogne is being run by his son, despite a promise to avoid conflicts of interest by putting it at arm's length.

Jan Peter Balkenende, the Prime Minister, has defended Veerman but there have been angry calls for him to surrender his portfolio to avoid accusations of a conflict of interest during controversial debates about the Common Agricultural Policy's future.

Campaigners are hoping to build a consensus for radical reform of the CAP in the Netherlands. 'There will be a debate that maybe the Minister for Economic Affairs should take over,' said the Dutch MEP Max van den Berg. 'That could help, because it was clear that Veerman was willing to support agricultural reform only within certain limits.'

Veerman, who was made an honorary citizen of France for his services to agriculture, and also owns a large agri-business in the Netherlands, signed an agreement handing his French farm to a third party in 2002, but the deal lapsed after a year. His spokesman last week admitted 'mistakes' were made.

Yannick Du Pont, of the anti-CAP Evert Vermeer Foundation, said Veerman was the only obstacle to reform in the government.  

The EU agrofood sector: facts and challenges (2008) | Slide Player |

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In story: A good example of how Brits were mislead on the EU

Re: A good example of how Brits were mislead...
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Monbiot is no where near as smart as he thinks on technical issues: he's executed a couple of u-turns recently - nuclear power and eating meat, I think - from prior convictions that, uh, suffered from a lack of evidential support.
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In story: A good example of how Brits were mislead on the EU

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Perhaps yes, UK farmers that do not deserve these subsidies are receiving them. But as I have shown, it is not the EU to blame for it.

The misinformation spread by Monbiot is outright invented. I doubt it is the result of a misunderstanding.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on
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The Irish Times | Brexit: Barnier says EU at one with Varadkar on Border demand

Michel Barnier has made clear in no uncertain terms that Ireland's demand for UK assurances on the Border are completely at one with the EU Brexit negotiating task force position.

The EU's chief Brexit negotiator told a thinktank meeting in Brussels that it is up the UK government to provide a way to avoid imposing a hard border between the Republic and Northern Ireland when Britain leaves the European Union in 2019.

The onus was on the UK "to come forward with proposals" to avoid imposing a physical border in Ireland. "Those who want Brexit must offer solutions", said Mr Barnier.



by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on
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And Monbiot is supposed to be one of the good guys... There is no doubt that a lot of CAP money ends up in the hands of the "landed gentry" or agri-businesses which do not need such subsidies. The CAP was supposed to enable family farming to survive in the face of cheaper global competition.  It was as much a social construct to support rural areas in decline, and strategic construct to avoid too much food dependence on external sources.

No doubt national governments had the power to prevent many of these abuses, but what national government is going to oppose EU money going to their donors, natural supporters, and local industries? CAP reform is essential, but blaming the EU is at best disingenuous  when most of it is in the hands of national governments to drive such reforms. Ironically the greatest abuses may have been in the UK with its extremely unequal land-owning class structure.

In many ways the UK is the greatest beneficiary of the worst aspects of the EU. In some respects, Brexit itself is a reforming act for the EU.

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on
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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Trump makes Thanksgiving shorter
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Politics Gets Personal: Effects of Political Partisanship and Advertising on Family Ties
Research on growing American political polarization and antipathy primarily studies effects on public institutions and political processes, ignoring private effects such as damaged family ties. Using smartphone-tracking data and precinct-level voting, we show that politically-divided families shortened Thanksgiving dinners by 20-30 minutes following the divisive 2016 election. This decline survives comparisons with 2015 and extensive demographic and spatial controls, and more than doubles in media markets with heavy political advertising. These effects appear asymmetric: while Democratic voters traveled less in 2016, political differences shortened Thanksgiving dinners more among Republican voters, especially where political advertising was heaviest. Partisan polarization may degrade close family ties with large aggregate implications; we estimate 27 million person-hours of cross-partisan Thanksgiving discourse were lost in 2016 to ad-fueled partisan effects.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on
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In story: A good example of how Brits were mislead on the EU

Re: A good example of how Brits were mislead...
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Ironically, right after engaging in these deceptions, Monbiot declares himself against Brexit. If Monbiot actually wanted the UK to remain in the EU, he would have not spent time spreading false claims about the CAP and demonising the Union. He would have instead called out the implications of leaving the legal framework protecting farming in Europe.

Since George Monbiot is a Remainer, perhaps he misunderstands how the CAP works and is not wilfully spreading disinformation.

When he says that subsidies goes to big landowners (and he has given specific figures for major UK landowners in his Guardian columns), it's surely a given that the money is paid to an entity that meets all the requirements for active farmer status, regardless of whatever other businesses the ultimate owner might have.

by Gag Halfrunt on
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In story: A good example of how Brits were mislead on the EU

Re: A good example of how Brits were mislead
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The British have been eurosceptics for many years, also by influencing Brussels on globalization and undermining the rights of labor. Brexit was always going to be a choice of the establishment (capital, wealth and the 1%) and their henchmen the politicians. How close was the EU and the US on the new trade treaty of the TTIP? Yes, under the rule of Democrats in the White House.

London was the trojan horse for America inside Europe, NATO played a key role in pushing an agressive stance towards Moscow. People will always suffer at the hands of politicians looking after the welfare of the elite.

The referendum on Brexit was never abour ratio, similar to elections it's based on falsehoods and emotion.  

America First - Déjà Vu

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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Re: Economy & Finance
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Annals of never-waste-a-crisis
Facebook (Still) Letting Housing Advertisers Exclude Users by Race
"The only ad that took longer than three minutes to be approved by Facebook sought to exclude potential renters 'interested in Islam, Sunni Islam and Shia Islam.' It was approved after 22 minutes."
Did You 'Like' Russian Propaganda? Facebook Will Tell You
"But it won't show users if they merely saw -- or even 'liked' -- posts from those pages."

()Nomenclature: the statement "bought ads" wherever it appears is incorrect; ProPublica ("advertiser") purchases publishing services for the advertisement supplied by the advertiser in terms of time, location ("placement"), and consideration (money payment) from Facebook (title "publisher"); the advertiser, its advertising agent, or employees, creates the advertisement contents.


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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Re: Hap Map UPDATE
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Another Upset to Closely Held Beliefs
Plague Likely a Stone Age Arrival to Central Europe
Beginning around 4,800 years ago, there was a major expansion of people from the Caspian-Pontic Steppe into Europe. These people carried distinct genetic markers that allow their movements and genetic influence, present in essentially all modern-day Europeans, to be traced. Interestingly, the earliest indications of the plague in Europe coincide with the arrival of steppe ancestry in the human populations.

Neandertal and Denisovan allele-bearing cousins: biological invaders?
Furthermore, the introduction of the disease in Europe could have played a role in the genetic turnover of European populations. "It's possible that certain European populations, or the steppe people, may have had a different level of immunity."


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Over the past 10 years the Max Plank Institute research center online has rapidly adopted 'interdisciplinary' interest in the "science of human history" as classic isolationists' focus in paleo-anthropology and -archaeology has decayed. Inconclusive support for it from  Human Genome Project, retired, appears to be pushing research priorities toward ethnnographic domains of knowledge and subaltern geographical territories to instantiate 'diversity' of hominid species, 'diversity' within h. sapiens. Regions of continental Africa remain however beyond the pale (of The Rift), because
[a]lthough ancient-DNA research has revealed insights into the population histories of many areas of the world, delving into the deep ancestry of African groups has not been possible until recently because genetic material degrades too rapidly in warm, humid climates

other than those in Central America, South America, and southeast Asia, evidently.

One notable exception and exemplar of current research bias is the so-called "The Genetic Identity of the Bangande People: 'The Secret Ones'". Bangime is an 'isolate' language living in west Africa that exhibits a high degree of dialectic variation. This field project utilizes linguistic techniques to postulate a pattern of hereditary ("ethnobiological") and "population movements" traits suitable for matching "genetic diversity" elsewhere.

Here is the database build

archived: NCBI retiring HapMap Resource

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In story: Preparation for Katowice Climate Talks

Re: Preparation for Katowice Climate Talks
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Summing up from skimming the first pdf: Wind (on and off shore) and PV mix for Poland.

Net job gain: 180,000

Of course, I think one should really see jobs as a societal cost, but without full employment policies it won't be seen the that way.

by fjallstrom on
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In story: Preparation for Katowice Climate Talks

Re: Preparation for Katowice Climate Talks
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I have yet to study these but Professor Jacobson responded with these references to his work:
We have a 100% all-sector energy roadmap for Poland within the 139-country paper

http://web.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/Articles/I/CountriesWWS.pdf

as well as an infographic summary here

http://thesolutionsproject.org/why-clean-energy/

and a grid-integration study of Poland with the rest of Europe here

http://web.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/Articles/I/CombiningRenew/NoAddedHydro-Europe.pdf

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My preference is that the international climate change community work closely with the Polish environmentalists who are already working on a clean energy transition and support them as best they can to prepare the ground in Katowice next year.  If I can do anything to facilitate that, I will be happy to do so, given that I am simply one person with a computer and curiosity living halfway between Harvard and MIT.


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If you would poll the man on the street, I doubt they would know or care more then that the UK voted to leave.

... seems to be the consensus around here.  Europeans* know the UK voted to leave and who cares.  Rational of them, all things considered.

* which the Brits no longer are

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In story: Crunch time is coming soon...

Re: Crunch time is coming soon...
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Tories were certain to win.
They thought they would wipe Labour out for a generation. So they included things in the manifesto to play to their base, thinking that it would be ignored and people would still vote for them. Plus that way they would have received some nice funding from landed gentry.

But they did not return a majority. And their incompetence is now on display.

by Cyrille (cyrillev domain yahoo.fr) on
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In story: Crunch time is coming soon...

Re: Crunch time is coming soon...
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Just checking. But is it not more than a bit Quixotic to risk all for a triumphant return of Country Tories and their values of which fox hunting is emblematic? But if the USA can elect Trump...

by ARGeezer (ARGeezer a in a circle eurotrib daught com) on
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In story: Open Thread 13 - 26 Nov

Der Postillon on the FDP
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Der Postillon
"Wir wären gezwungen, unsere Grundsätze aufzugeben" - mit diesen Worten begründete Christian Lindner den Abbruch der Jamaika-Sondierungsgespräche zwischen CDU, CSU, FDP und Grünen. Einer aktuellen Umfrage des Meinungsforschungsinstituts Opinion Control zufolge zeigt sich die überwältigende Mehrheit (97,6 Prozent) der Deutschen überrascht, dass die FDP angeblich Prinzipien hat.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on
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In story: With friends like these...

Re: With friends like these...
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While having Britain in the EU can have been considered a plus for a largely EU-sceptic country, Brexit is not covered that much in Sweden. If you would poll the man on the street, I doubt they would know or care more then that the UK voted to leave.

The Löfven government has many issues that takes priority. There is a red-green fight over asylum that cuts through the cabinet, in particular the question of issuing an amnesty for mainly young Afghani refugees that arrived in 2015 and now in the most extreme cases have their age written up by days so that their age by the date of decision (not age by date of arrival) is exactly 18. There is also a number of scandals relating to handling of IT-systems, an ongoing problem of austerity in social insurance systems, as well as poor general polling for the greens heading into the election year of 2018.

In sum, the EU council meeting is a good opportunity to appear important, but Brexit isn't important enough to spend political capital on. Sweden will as far as I can see tow the EU-line as long as there isn't something on the agenda that impacts directly on Swedish interests, like keeping out of the euro.

The only Brexit related coverage that I can remember having any impact is the last few days when Denmark and south Swedish politicians has accused Stockholm of not being supporting enough for getting the Medicine Agency to Copenhagen after Stockholm was eliminated in the first round.

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In story: Crunch time is coming soon...

Re: Crunch time is coming soon...
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But perhaps she is just that blind and not that bright.

Perhaps? This is someone who thought that bringing back fox hunting was a winning strategy.

by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on
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In story: Crunch time is coming soon...

Re: Crunch time is coming soon...
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[Early exit] is not in anyone's interest, and neither is Brexit - bar a few few plutocrats who imagine it will enable them to turn the UK into a client state.

I am having difficulty in seeing how ANY 'plutocrat' could see that they could benefit economically by Brexit. But I have had some hard lessons in just how far business people will go to preserve personal power - even at the expense of economic interest.

Forcing the Brexit vote seems, transparently, a badly miscalculated, opportunistic attempt to extend Cameron's term. What I cannot understand is how May, who supported Remain, can believe continuing on the course to Brexit will benefit her or anyone in the longer term. But perhaps she is just that blind and not that bright. But how does any UK plutocrat imagine that their economic interests will be benefited by Brexit?

Perhaps it it their fascist views that they want to see implemented into policy. But that was happening in No Trumps until the summer derailment. If the common sort can so easily be recruited to conspire against their own self interest in the name of cherished ideology, why not a plutocrat?

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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Re: Missed a perfectly good chance
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Yea, his wife saved him from being a total national embarrassment on live TV. Fortunately, his ego had enabled a whole documentary team to follow him for the entire election campaign so that his and the other 3 participants vacuous careerism was revealed at leisure.

But especially his complete lack of awareness of his own privilege and sense of entitlement. He was shown to be a complete arse, in detail.

An even funnier moment was later in the show, at party conference where another of the quisling Blairites lamented how their own membership were beginning to organise without her and, probably, against her. She felt it was sinister.

Of course, nothing was sinister about Blair sidelining entire constituency parties, parachuting in his own millionaire mates to be an MP in a constituency they'd not visited before polling day for a party where the ink had brely dried on their newly printed membership card. Special selection panels for candidates before they're allowed to be viewed by an prospective committee, just to ensure anyone with a left wing idea is weeded out. An entire parliamentary labour party full of Blairite Stepford candidates, who hadn't got a thought or a principles in their head between the lot of them. No, nothing sinister about that, said a Stepford Blairite, nothing sinister at all.

that programme was comedy gold. Yes, I was swearng at the telly a lot too, but their downfall at the end was a true pleasure as they realised the bus they'd been chasing was disappearing along with their relevance.

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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Re: Russia and the UK
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there is plenty of blood in the water and the big beasts are preparing for the feeding frenzy to come

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on
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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Re: Living Off the Planet
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well, I guess it's kinda hard to see what's going on when it's so radioactive that any machine that gets near it breaks

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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Re: Living Off the Planet
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Fukushima Darkness
Seven years and they do not know what's going on inside.


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In story: Open Thread 13 - 26 Nov

Re: Open Thread 13 - 26 Nov
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"Economic suffering alone does not explain the rise of Trump."

"The argument for the innocence of Trump's backers finds purchase across ideological lines: white Democrats looking for votes from working-class whites, white Republicans who want to tar Democrats as elitists, white leftists who fear that identity politics stifles working-class solidarity, and white Trumpists seeking to weaponize white grievances. But the impetus here is not just ideological, but personal and commercial. No one wants to think of his family, friends, lovers, or colleagues as racist. And no one wants to alienate potential subscribers, listeners, viewers, or fans, either."

The thing that annoys me is the insistence on looking at it as either/or in the first quote and in the second quote ignore the ongoing faction fight in the Democratic party where the last primary and the reasons Clinton lost the general election are areas of intense disagreement. So the writer leaves out that the Clinton faction has every reason to explain the election in terms of racism, because then there's no point in turning left, and every mention of needing to win white working class voters means racist policies.

The writer writes himself into this Clinton wing argument by selecting data. For example, he claims repeatedly that Trump still has same support, while Trump's approval rating has slumped down to the same 30%-something levels as those that actually liked him in the exit polls. Thereby neatly ignoring the voters that has lost confidence in Trump since the election, which is necessary for the all racism argument.

I think the reasonable starting point would be to start with racism, economics, voter suppression and the campaigns and see how much each contributed. But that is unlikely to happen when there is an ongoing faction fight.

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In story: Crunch time is coming soon...

Re: Crunch time is coming soon...
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People need to keep in mind that the DUP are not exactly rational players.
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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Re: People & Klatsch
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I see "misinformation" everywhere.

Donation-Bin Charity Fights Baltimore Permitting Scheme

Planet Aid filed the [federal] suit in Baltimore ...
Baltimore city is the location of the physical US District Court for Maryland (state, all of it) and all business therein: 101 W Lombard St, Baltimore, MD 21201.
After 13 years of operating donation bins in the(sic) Baltimore, Planet Aid says ...

disambiguation: Planet Aid is suing Baltimore County.

Baltimore County is an administrative division of the state of Maryland. The boundaries of the county contain many incorporated and unincorporated towns and cities. The county's business is entirely separate from Baltimore city administrative division of jurisdiction, government, and electoral districts. Baltimore city functions in effect a county in itself. And like Montgomery County a densely populated blue isle in a sea of red people. Who elected Larry "maglev" Hogan governor.

archived:
This information is incorrect.


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In story: 20 - 26 Nov 2017

Re: World denouement
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AP | Robert Mugabe Resigns as Zimbabwe's President After 37 Years
Mugabe's resignation brought an end to the impeachment proceedings brought by the ruling ZANU-PF party after its Central Committee voted to oust the president as party leader and select recently fired Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa as his replacement, a move that eventually could lead to Mnangagwa  becoming head of state. Currently in exile, Mnangagwa served for decades as Mugabe's enforcer, with a reputation for being astute and ruthless, more feared than popular.

Mnangagwa added to immense pressure on Mugabe to quit?
Mnangagwa, who fled the country and has not appeared in public during the past week's political turmoil, said Mugabe had invited him to return to Zimbabwe "for a discussion" on recent events. However, he said he will not return for now, alleging that there had been plans to kill him at the time of his firing.

Regional leaders continued efforts to find a solution to the political turmoil?
It was not clear how long the impeachment process could take. The ruling party has said Mugabe could be voted out as early as Wednesday but some analysts believe the impeachment process could take weeks and would, if conducted properly, allow Mugabe to make a case in his defense.

archived: 6 days ago
"'nobody wants simply to see the transition from one unelected tyrant to a next. (...) We want to see proper, free and fair elections.'"


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Steve Berman, the atty who assembled the several class action suits against VW, has filed a RICO complaint on behalf of Jane Doe and all others similarly situated against Harvey Weinstein, Weinstein Holdings, Miramax (the "Weinstein Sexual Enterprise" or "Army of Spies") and all John Does (unknown joint  stock holders) alleging conspiracy to
(i) harass, threaten, extort, and mislead Weinstein's victims and the media to prevent the reporting, disclosure, or prosecution of his sexual misconduct, and
(ii) destroy, mutilate, or conceal records, documents, or other evidence to prevent the use of such evidence to report (or prosecute) his sexual offenses

by means of mail and wire fraud

Jane Doe v. Harvey Weinstein, et al.

No jail for Harvey. Nope, nope.


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News and Views

 20 - 26 Nov 2017

by Bjinse - Nov 20, 32 comments

Your take on this week's news

 13 - 19 Nov 2017

by Bjinse - Nov 14, 57 comments

Your take on this week's news

 Open Thread 13 - 26 Nov

by Bjinse - Nov 14, 15 comments

That thread which has drawn from every poet worthy of being read some attempt at description, or some lines of feeling

 Open Thread 6 - 12 Nov

by Bjinse - Nov 5, 38 comments

A new thread is the time for comfort, for good food and warmth, for the touch of a friendly hand and for a talk beside the fire

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