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In story: Open Thread 22-28 August

Re: Er ist wieder da
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jeez, as if France hasn't suffered enough?

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on
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In story: Open Thread 22-28 August

Re: Open Thread 22-28 August
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Anybody got any news from our Italian peeps? Are they ok?

melo, di gondi, rg?

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on
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In story: Open Thread 22-28 August

Re: Open Thread 22-28 August
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Who knows? The propaganda fog on Syria is so thick I can't make any sense of it at all.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on
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In story: Open Thread 22-28 August

Re: Open Thread 22-28 August
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Anybody got a sense WTF is going on in Syria at the moment? Apparently the YPG and the government are now in serious conflict over the city of Hasakah.

The question is why and why now?
Whispers by their American advisers as MoA suspects?
Is the Turkish - Russian rapprochement worth more than I gave it credit for and the Kurds are acting pre-emptively?
Is it a last ditch scramble for territory now that the government seems to be winning?

The Chinese also seem to increase their involvement just in case there were to few moving parts earlier.

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Wait till they try a War on Poverty.
by gk (gk (gk quattro due due sette @gmail.com)) on
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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Economy & Finance
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You can't expect a generalist news site like the Beeb to make a difference between domain names registration policies and the management of the DNS system </geek>.

What's getting released by ICANN is their control of domain names administration, not the DNS infrastructure.

by Bernard on
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Yes, you need to spread casualties like that out over more time so people won't notice, or at least send out contractors, not your uniformed operatives, to terminate someone's operation with extreme prejudice.
by rifek on
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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Living On the Planet
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well, yes. Just a couple of beers rather than a crate

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on
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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Living On the Planet
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do you mind keeping your more pornographic flights of fancy to yourself please?

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on
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Not that different over here.  Plenty of paranoia was sewn in the US over the years and remains virulent, and the US played its Mighty Wurlitzer worldwide throughout the Cold War and continues to do so.
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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Living On the Planet
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One must always practice moderation with that method, though.  Had a coroner call once where the guy had passed out in the tub and drowned.  Discovered a week later.  Yeah, that wasn't pretty.
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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Living On the Planet
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"Oooooooooh Rob, not in the butt again."

"Shut up, Laura." Smack!!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on
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Well yes. I really don't know how that plays out. It's a bridge we will have cross when we come to it. Planning for the myriad legal wrangles is a bit hopeless.

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on
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Define "political centre". Also, please take into account how far the political centre has drifted to the right. In the 1950s the conservative government were campaigning on policies that are now considered impossibly left wing, eg social housing.

The political centre of the parties in Westminster is quite far to the right of the political centre of the UK public if their politcal prefernces are interrogated rather than their tribal allegiance.

EG Re-nationalisation of the railways is immensely popular with the public, but at Westminster it is considered so far to the left as to be completely un-possible. Cannot be discussed, too weird, too communist.

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on
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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Living On the Planet
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Hmm, I don't have access to a bath these days, but wwhen I did I'm sure it will surprise nobody that my beverage of choice was beer rather than tea.

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on
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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Economy &amp;amp; Finance
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I thought Icann already had that responsibility. So I guess it's just a formal handover

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on
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In story: Stiglitz: Reform or Divorce in Europe

Re: Stiglitz: Reform or Divorce in Europe
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Yes we may well need a generational change in leaders. But the change in ideological orientation is what is most important.  The economic market leads to centralisation in the European core, but the political market is still stuck in 28 nationalistic mindsets.

Unless EU institutions such as the EP, EU Commission and Council and ECB gain a lot more power and independence from Germany, not a whole lot will change.

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on
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In story: Stiglitz: Reform or Divorce in Europe

Re: Stiglitz: Reform or Divorce in Europe
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It feels odd to say, but I think they are incapable of thinking differently at this point, all beholden up to their necks. The switch is rusted stuck.

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on
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In story: Stiglitz: Reform or Divorce in Europe

Re: Stiglitz: Reform or Divorce in Europe
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He probably doesn't go far enough, eschewing all mention of a fiscal Union, or common health, education, social welfare, employment, housing or infrastructural policies.

He also misses an essential political point: Most of Europe's key leaders are accountable to their national electorates, not a European one.  It is illogical to expect (say) Merkel to adopt the above policies while she remains accountable to a solely German electorate.

Germany has been doing just fine with an ECB with a very limit remit and a European Commission with a tiny budget as a % of European GDP.  So why should it permit change?

Unless a majority of Council members come to see it as being in their national interest to promote the above European wide policies, we will continue to have beggar thy neighbour economic austerity policies.

Even the shock of Brexit hasn't promoted a re-think.  Will it take a collection of peripheral states threatening a joint exit to promote a re-think?  It is beginning to look like it.

by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot male dotty communists) on
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YouGov | The leadership effect - how leaders can shift perceptions of parties

YouGov has been tracking public perceptions of where the political parties and leaders stand on the left-right spectrum since 2002. The results are plotted on a 200 point scale, stretching from -100 (very left wing) to 100 (very right wing). The political centre sits at zero. Combining our data on public perceptions of both leaders and parties for the first time has provided some fascinating comparisons between leaders, and the effect they can have on the way the public sees their parties.

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Jeremy Corbyn has had the effect of driving the public's view of the Labour party leftwards, with the party now standing at -50 on the scale. He still remains far to the left of his party though, sitting some 20 points further to the left on the spectrum than Labour in the public eye, and that is after he himself has shifted eight points rightwards since he took over.


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Would the EU negotiate with a Corbyn Government if he had a mandate to negotiate changes to the EU which did not violate the 4 freedoms?

I don't think so. Remember that none of the 4 freedoms were in play in the Greek negotiations. Except in the sense that the Council were quite relaxed about abolishing free capital transfers. I think Corbyn would be received similarly to Tsipras. While he is the leader of a traditional member of the European Social Democrats the people with personal connections at government level are the Blaiarites. He also represents both a vision of social democracy very few self-described social democrats are still comfortable with and a population that repeatedly "voted the wrong way."

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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Pretty pessimistic take on Podemos in Jacobin
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I'm not sure I'd trust Jacobin to take a disinterested view.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on
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Also how big of a deal is the Mayor of London taking sides in the contest? I suppose less important than it seems since the UK is not a federal system?

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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Pretty pessimistic take on Podemos in Jacobin
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The European Challenge | Jacobin -
But the tendency that prevailed was the project of "populist" inspiration around Pablo Iglesias and Íñigo Errejón, in which internal democracy and rank-and-file participation played no role, and which was only centered towards short-term electoral victory.

This party model was officially confirmed by Podemos's founding congress in Vistalegre in October 2014. There it set up what Errejón dubbed an "electoral war machine," closing down any attempt of organizational experimentation.

Podemos was shaped as a party centered only in electoral competition and political communication. It completely neglected the work of rooting the party in unions, community organizations, and social movements.
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Between the first round of voting in December of 2015 and the second round in June, Podemos issued too many contradictory messages.

Repeatedly, voters have seen Podemos say one thing and do the opposite: rejecting left unity and then making an alliance with United Left; saying they would never form a joint government with PSOE only to then make an offer to do just that; refusing the label "left" and then embracing the label of "social democracy."



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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Living On the Planet
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OK, I get it now.  We're looking for TV signals from other planets, just like a planet far away would see old versions of ... say ... the Dick Van Dyke Show with Mary Tyler Moore, etc. So, here we go. TV reception FROM the planet Porno, a place where their humans are not sexually repressed and they show banging on all channels, at all time, and it's normal for their kids to see huge schlongs on their tube as often as we see car chases. Oh, and their version of the Dick Van Dyke Show, with Laura blowing Rob left and right, and Mel Cooley bungholing Sally Rogers. And Gilmore Girls ... Luke doing a threesome  with Lorilei and Rory. Sign me up!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on
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I think the biggest risk going forward is that there seem to be quite a few cronies in the judicial system raising the prospect that splitters could sue for the name an assets of the party.

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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Living On the Planet
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The second part, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI), has not yet been successful.

If it had been "successful", what would that success look like? Green creatures with big heads? Mr. Spock? If humans, in the role of aliens, lived among ... oh, say ... wolves, would the wolves have the mental capacity to realize that the humans are "alien"? How many SyFy movies have to be produced before we realize that the aliens may already be here in a myriad of forms, and humans don't have the brain-power/technology to detect them?


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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Living On the Planet
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Searching for aliens who already know we are here

Are we alone in the universe? To answer this question, astronomers have been using a variety of methods in the past decades to search for habitable planets and for the signals from extraterrestrial observers.

The first part of this venture has been highly successful: More than 2,000 planets around distant stars -- so called exoplanets -- have been found so far. The second part, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI), has not yet been successful.

Maybe the search strategy has not been optimized until now, said researchers from the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research (MPS) in Göttingen, Germany, and from McMaster University in Canada. They suggest that future searches focus on that part of the sky in which distant observers can notice the yearly transit of Earth in front of the Sun.

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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Economy &amp; Finance
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Sea Landed SpaceX Falcon 9 sails back into Port Canaveral

PORT CANAVERAL, FL -- Rocket recycling continues apace as the latest SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket to successfully launch a payload to orbit on Aug. 14 and land the first stage at sea minutes later, sailed safely into Port Canaveral just days later atop the dedicated drone ship landing platform.

It's just the latest previously unfathomable and science fictionesque space adventure turned into science reality by SpaceX - a burgeoning aerospace giant.

A virgin SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket carrying the Japanese JCSAT-16 telecom satellite roared to life past midnight last Sunday, Aug. 14, at 1:26 a.m. EDT and streaked to orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 on Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.

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In story: 22 - 28 August 2016

Re: Economy &amp; Finance
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SpaceX Secures Second Manned Spaceflight Mission


SpaceX Secures Second Manned Spaceflight Mission
SpaceX catches up to Boeing in "space taxi" orders. Will it win the gold?
Rich Smith
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Aug 21, 2016 at 10:13AM

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Destination: International Space Station. But who will win the gold medal for getting there first? Image source: NASA.

Two years ago, NASA tapped Boeing (NYSE:BA) and SpaceX to run Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) missions for it, ferrying U.S. astronauts from Earth to the International Space Station and back.

According to the agency, this switch from NASA-operated (or Roscosmos) taxi service to the ISS will save U.S. taxpayers tens of millions of dollars annually. This is because, ever since the Space Shuttle was retired in 2011, we've been paying Russia to send our astronauts to the ISS -- at a price that now stands at $82 million per seat. In contrast, once up and running, the CCtCap service promises to drop that cost down below $60 million.

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News and Views

 22 - 28 August 2016

by Bjinse - Aug 22, 31 comments

Your take on today's news media

 15 - 21 August 2016

by Bjinse - Aug 15, 16 comments

Your take on today's news media

 Open Thread 22-28 August

by Bjinse - Aug 21, 5 comments

The greatest thing you’ll ever learn is just to thread

 Open Thread 15-21 August

by Bjinse - Aug 15, 13 comments

I coulda been a thread

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