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Breaking: CIA Prison News

by Chris Kulczycki
Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 06:03:56 AM EST

ABC news is reporting:

Dec. 5, 2005 -- Two CIA secret prisons were operating in Eastern Europe until last month when they were shut down following Human Rights Watch reports of their existence in Poland and Romania.
Current and former CIA officers speaking to ABC News on the condition of confidentiality say the United States scrambled to get all the suspects off European soil before Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice arrived there today. The officers say 11 top al Qaeda suspects have now been moved to a new CIA facility in the North African desert.

More below:


CIA officials asked ABC News not the name the specific countries where the prisons were located, citing security concerns.

The CIA declines to comment, but current and former intelligence officials tell ABC News that 11 top al Qaeda figures were all held at one point on a former Soviet air base in one Eastern European country. Several of them were later moved to a second Eastern European country.

All but one of these 11 high-value al Qaeda prisoners were subjected to the harshest interrogation techniques in the CIA's secret arsenal, the so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" authorized for use by about 14 CIA officers and first reported by ABC News on Nov. 18.

Sources tell ABC News that the CIA has a related system of secretly returning other prisoners to their home country when they have outlived their usefulness to the United States.

These same sources also tell ABC News that U.S. intelligence also ships some "unlawful combatants" to countries that use interrogation techniques harsher than any authorized for use by U.S. intelligence officers. They say that Jordan, Syria, Morocco and Egypt were among the nations used in order to extract confessions quickly using techniques harsher than those authorized for use by U.S. intelligence officers. These prisoners were not necessarily citizens of those nations.

According to sources directly involved in setting up the CIA secret prison system, it began with the capture of Abu Zabayda in Pakistan. After treatment there for gunshot wounds, he was whisked by the CIA to Thailand where he was housed in a small disused warehouse on an active airbase. There, his cell was kept under 24-hour closed circuit TV surveillance and his life-threatening wounds were tended to by a CIA doctor especially sent from Langley headquarters to assure Abu Zubaydah was given proper care, sources said. Once healthy, he was slapped, grabbed, made to stand long hours in a cold cell and finally handcuffed and strapped feet up to a water board until after .31 seconds he begged for mercy and began to cooperate.

While in the secret facilities in Eastern Europe, Abu Zubaydah and his fellow captives were fed breakfasts that included yogurt and fruit, lunches that included steamed vegetables and beans, and dinners that included meat or chicken and more vegetables and rice, sources say. In exchange for cooperation, prisoners were sometimes given hard candies, deserts and chocolates. Abu Zubaydah was partial to Kit Kats, the same treat Saddam Hussein fancied in his captivity.

Of the 12 high value targets housed by the CIA, only one did not require water boarding before he talked. Ramzi bin al-Shibh broke down in tears after he was walked past the cell of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the operational planner for Sept. 11. Visibly shaken, he started to cry and became as cooperative as if he had been tied down to a water board, sources said.

And a list of prisoners:


Dec. 5, 2005

Following is a list of 12 high-value targets housed by the CIA.

 Abu Zubaydah: Held first in Thailand then Poland

 Ibn Al-Shaykh al-Libi: Held in Poland. Previously held in Pakistan/Afghanistan

 Abdul Rahim al-Sharqawi: Held in Poland

 Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri: Held in Poland

 Ramzi Binalshibh: Held in Poland

 Mohammed Omar Abdel-Rahman: Held in Poland

 Khalid Shaikh Mohammed: Held in Poland

 Waleed Mohammed bin Attash: Held in Poland

 Hambali: In U.S. custody. Kept isolated from other high-value targets.

 Hassan Ghul: Held in Poland.

 Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani: Held in Poland

 Abu Faraj al-Libbi: Held in Poland

I'll post more as I see it.

As I continue to scan the media, it is clear that this is being picked up by papers all over the world, but not in the US. UPI just posted this sorry little wire story .

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Also, please see this post by smintheus on dKos: link

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Czeslaw Milosz
by Chris Kulczycki on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 06:15:05 AM EST
Here is the link to my torture post on dKOS , should you want to recommend it.

Thanks.


Do not feel safe. The poet remembers.
Czeslaw Milosz

by Chris Kulczycki on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 06:59:04 AM EST
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I guess the torture plane must have been flying overtime to transfer them all...
by IdiotSavant on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 06:29:13 AM EST
CIA Ruse Is Said to Have Damaged Probe in Milan

From the Washington Post (link):


MILAN -- In March 2003, the Italian national anti-terrorism police received an urgent message from the CIA about a radical Islamic cleric who had mysteriously vanished from Milan a few weeks before. The CIA reported that it had reliable information that the cleric, the target of an Italian criminal investigation, had fled to an unknown location in the Balkans.

In fact, according to Italian court documents and interviews with investigators, the CIA's tip was a deliberate lie, part of a ruse designed to stymie efforts by the Italian anti-terrorism police to track down the cleric, Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, an Egyptian refugee known as Abu Omar.

The strategy worked for more than a year until Italian investigators learned that Nasr had not gone to the Balkans after all. Instead, prosecutors here have charged, he was abducted off a street in Milan by a team of CIA operatives who took him to two U.S. military bases in succession and then flew him to Egypt, where he was interrogated and allegedly tortured by Egyptian security agents before being released to house arrest.

There is much more in the article.


Do not feel safe. The poet remembers.
Czeslaw Milosz

by Chris Kulczycki on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 06:37:39 AM EST
Oops; de Gondi already posted about the Washington Post story-- link.
Please read his excellent diary.

Do not feel safe. The poet remembers.
Czeslaw Milosz
by Chris Kulczycki on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 08:34:36 AM EST
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I just hate the last two paragraphs if the ABC article, it puts the obligatory admin spin on its own valuable reporting. Especially this:

Of the 12 high value targets housed by the CIA, only one did not require water boarding before he talked.

'Require.'

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 06:51:13 AM EST
"One of the difficult issues in this new kind of conflict is what to do with captured individuals who we know or believe to be terrorists," Rice said. "The individuals come from many countries and are often captured far from their original homes. Among them are those who are effectively stateless, owing allegiance only to the extremist cause of transnational terrorism. Many are extremely dangerous. And some have information that may save lives, perhaps even thousands of lives."
What to do with captured individuals whom you know or believe are terrorists? That's a hard nut to crack, let me think... How about charging them with terrorism and putting them on trial? Oh, that's right, that'd require you to substantiate your belief and explain how the arrest was carried out, and we can't have that because of National Security.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 06:56:35 AM EST
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Tony Blair on the EU Budget proposal meets harsh criticism from EU Commissioner Jose Manuel Barroso and the new member states.

On European CIA torture flights, Jack Straw had to redo his homework, and send a new request for answers to Condoleezza Rice earlier this week.

Press Conference in Berlin, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice followed her preset replies formulated over the weekend, and new Chancellor Angela Merkel tried to stay friendly for their first meeting, but different mindset could not be masked.

Merkel: US Admitted Wrongful Abduction of German National Khaled el-Masri
Parliament to investigate abduction and CIA flights

Cross-posted from my diary Bill of Rice ¶ AQ Prisoners Moved to North Africa  

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason?
For if it prosper, none dare call it treason."

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by Oui on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 08:52:46 AM EST
I have always said that I look forward to a world with a lot more women involved in politics, being tired of men and their arm-wrestling approach to politics, but when I see this picture of Merkel and Rice sipping tea, I get a little bit worried. Not because they're women, it's just that the idea that the world's major decisions could be made by people high on tea, instead of coffee, is worrying.
by Alex in Toulouse on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 02:24:39 PM EST
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Romanians Seek Inquiry of Prison Reports
By ALEXANDRU ALEXE, Associated Press Writer

BUCHAREST, Romania -- The heads of Romania's two chambers of parliament on Tuesday called for an investigation into allegations a secret U.S. prison operated in the country. In Poland, the Justice Ministry said any official who would have allowed such a facility to operate would have been breaking the law, but that no inquiry was planned.

Officials in both countries insisted Tuesday that there is no evidence that the United States operated secret prisons on their territory.



Do not feel safe. The poet remembers.
Czeslaw Milosz
by Chris Kulczycki on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 11:37:54 AM EST
In Poland, the Justice Ministry said any official who would have allowed such a facility to operate would have been breaking the law, but that no inquiry was planned.
Clearly, Poland is already in the EU so they have nothing to lose.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 11:42:51 AM EST
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Pretty funny, those Romanians.  At the same time they seeks an inquiry into the prisons, they ink a deal allowing the Americans to use bases on their territory:

Rice signs US-Romania bases deal

The deal marks a major shift in US strategy in Europe
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has signed a deal allowing the US to use military bases in Romania.
It is the first such deal to be signed with a former communist country in eastern Europe.

Very nice of Europe to continue to allow the U.S. to use its territory to transport and torture its citizens.  I guess America will be called upon to be the thug of choice when European leaders need to rough up their opposition a little.  

Seems a little hypocritical of Europeans to be publicly criticizing the U.S. while at the same time privately supporting the U.S. move towards fascism.  But I guess that is what friends are for.

by numediaman on Tue Dec 6th, 2005 at 04:51:11 PM EST
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Romania (which is as yet outside of the EU) has a neo-con government (truly neocon - the lkocal right-wing intelligentsia managed to take the ideology seriously), so this may be the wrong example for a general point on Europe. On the other hand, each EU government has its own instance of taintedness in this affair, so your general point is valid.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Dec 7th, 2005 at 03:04:22 AM EST
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