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Green is rouge

by Jerome a Paris
Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 12:11:48 PM EST

I used to have some respect for Eric Le Boucher, the economics editorial writer of Le Monde, as he at least has some understanding of economics, something annoyingly rare in France, but the way he has been parrotting the worst neolib talking points in recent times is getting increasingly annoying. Today, à la Crichton or à la Lomborg, he is accusing Greens of being wrong to call for action on Global Climate Change - for all the usual stupid reasons:

Le réchauffement de la planète est devenu un problème trop sérieux pour être laissé aux écologistes. La Grande-Bretagne l'a compris. (...) La France est restée, elle, dans le politicard et l'émotionnel.Global Warming has become too important an issue to be left in the hands of the Greens. Britain understand this. (...) France is stuck in petty politicking and emotional wankery.
Apart from the petty sniping at France (yet another demonstration, in my view, that France's biggest problem is that its elites do not believe in themselves anymore), jump in for more of the same inconsistent against doing anything.


The immediate cause of Mr Le Boucher's outrage is the mediatic impact of Nicolas Hulot, the former presenter of a TV show on nature, who is arguing for a programme (Le Monde summary, behind sub. wall, translated below) to cut carbon emissions and has been courted in recent days by politicians on both the left and the right.

Economie. Une logique de la durabilité ; concevoir les produits pour qu'ils durent et soient réparables.

Energie. Organiser la baisse de la consommation afin de diviser par quatre les émissions de gaz à effet de serre d'ici à 2050.

Agriculture. Produire autrement, en conciliant production agricole ; respect de l'environnement, travail paysan et produits de qualité.

Territoire. Contenir l'extension périurbaine et relocaliser les activités humaines, en cessant de multiplier les infrastructures et d'"artificialiser" les surfaces.

Transports. Sortir du tout routier, en développant les transports en commun et le vélo.

Fiscalité. Etablir le véritable prix des services rendus par la nature en supprimant les subventions défavorables à l'environnement.

Biodiversité. Faire entrer la nature dans l'aménagement du territoire, en créant un réseau écologique national.

Santé. Prévenir avant de guérir, en évaluant le poids de l'environnement dans les causes de maladies.

Recherche. Faire de l'environnement un moteur de l'innovation.

Politique internationale. Prendre l'initiative, en promouvant une autorité mondiale de l'environnement.

Economy. Bring about a logic of durability: build things so that they last and can be easily repaired.

Energy. Organise a decrease in consumption so as the divide GHG emissions by 4 by 2050.

Agriculture. Change production modes, to take into account the environment, paysan labor and quality of the products.

Land management. Limit suburban expansion and relocalize human activity by stopping the needless extension of infrastructure and the minaralisation of surfaces.

Transports. Move away from the dominance of road transport by developing public transport and biking.

Tax policy. Bring about the true price of the services provided by the environment by eliminating subsidies that damage the environment.

Biodiversity. Bring environmental concerns into zoning plans, by creating a national environmental authority.

Health. Focus on preventation rather than cure; analyse the impact of environmental damage in the cause of disease.

R&D. Use environmental concerns as an engine for innovation.

International Policy. Take the lead, by promoting the creation of a world environmental authority.

"Cinq propositions concrètes"

1. – Un vice premier ministre chargé du développement durable.

2. – Instaurer une taxe carbone en croissance régulière.

3. – Réorienter les subventions agricoles vers une agriculture de qualité.

4. – Systématiser les procédures de démocratie participative.

5. – Mettre en place une grande politique d'éducation et de sensibilisation.

Five proposals:

1. – A vice Prime Minister in charge of sustainable develoment

2. – A regularly increasing carbon tax

3. – A transfer of agricultural subsidies towards quality farming.

4. – A big development of participatory democracy prodecures

5. – A large education campaign.

Nothing earth-shattering there, but it has had the merit, just like the Stern report, to bring the environment to the fore of the political debate. And that cannot be tolerated.

la France est responsable de 1,5 % des émissions mondiales de CO2 : 368 millions de tonnes sur 24 milliards. Les Français auraient beau élire un vice-président tout vert comme le souhaite M. Hulot, rouler à vélo et couper le courant, cela ne changerait strictement rien au ciel.

Sans doute, répondent les écolos. Mais "il faut bien montrer l'exemple" ! Nous voilà au coeur de leur stratégie : avoir mauvaise conscience, se serrer la ceinture, entrer volontairement dans " la culture de la modération". Au besoin, il faut contraindre les récalcitrants par la force (à Paris, par exemple) pour sauver la planète.

France causes only 1.5% of global carbon emissions. Even if it elected a nicely green President like Mr Hulot, started riding bikes, and cutting off power, it would change nothing to the climate.

Of course, reply the Greens, but "we have to show the way". That's the core of their strategy: give us a bad conscience, restrict oneself, enter the "culture of moderation". And, if necessary (like in Paris) constrain the unwilling by force to save the planet.

The usual argument that acting alone is not enough, as if that were an argument not to act. Of course we need to act globally, but that includes us, and if we're not convinced ourselves to do anything, how will we convince others?

And of course the usual Reaganesque argument that the environmentally minded really want us to go back to live like cavemen.

Cette salade verte, arrosée par Dieu et Malthus, idéologisée, séduit en France. L'écologie y est devenue la dernière manière de lutter contre le capitalisme. Mais elle n'a aucune chance de convaincre ailleurs. (...) Les Etats-Unis n'ont pas ratifié le protocole, le Canada vient de s'en retirer. Aucun pays émergent n'est concerné alors que la Chine deviendra la plus grosse "pollueuse" dans dix ans. En Europe, seules la Grande-Bretagne et la Suède respectent leur ordre de marche. La France à peine.That green propaganda, spiced with God and Malthus, works in France. Ecology has become the latest way to fight capitalism. But it stands no chance of working elsewhere. (...) The USA did not ratify Kyoto. No emerging country is on board, even as China will become the biggest polluter in 10 years. In Europe, only the UK and Sweden fulfill their obligations. France barely does.
Worse, the enviros really are communists. The red menace under the green... And that's just a French disease, of course. And the French, which "barely" fulfill their obligations (strange how that's different from actually fulfilling these obligations. But doing things as well as in the UK or Sweden? That would be intolerable to a professional France-basher like Le Boucher).

And again, we bump up against the US and China, the two great excuses to do nothing. Where's Al Gore form, again?

Thus the conclusion:

Comment convaincre les réticents, et d'abord les Etats-Unis et la Chine ? Sûrement pas en leur proposant la "modération", et encore moins de changer le capitalisme. (...) Il faut bien sûr faire prendre conscience (comme les écolos ou Al Gore), taxer le CO2 (comme M. Hulot, mais à l'échelle mondiale), mais à la condition de décupler les efforts de recherche et de développement sur les énergies propres. Pas moins de croissance, mais plus de science. Ajoutons : plus de nucléaire.How do we convince those opposed, starting with China and the USA. Certainly not by proposing "moderation", or by changing capitalism. (...) Of course one needs to create awareness (like the Greens or Al Gore), and tax carbon (like Mr Hulot proposes, but on a worldwide basis), but only if we increase R&D spending on clean energy sources. Not less growth, but more science. And, let's add, more nuclear
So, to sum up: we have to agitate for awareness on the issue, propose carbon taxes, focus on renewable energy, but such proposals should not come from people that are green, because they are bad. Do I get this right?

Hmm. Actually, we end up again with the issue of growth. The real irreconciliable difference between the real enviros and those desired by the short-sighted capitalists and their spokeslackeys like Le Boucher is that the first group is willing to question the concept of growth (or simply to acknowledge that it is bumping against very real, and very hard, limits) whereas the second refuses to consider that at all. Because of course it would put limits on its unrestrained dash for accumulation and concentration of wealth.

Underlying this, of course, is the now dominant definition of capitalism whereby any restriction to corporations is unacceptable (and immediately labelled communist and thus evil). Externalities cannot be internalised unless the Chinese and Americans do it, and as the Americans are "real" capitalists and don't do it, and the Chinese are, hmm, presumably real capitalists as well, and don't do it either, we should not do it. Beyond the simplistic views on what's happening in the USA (lol), this is really a cowardly and weasely way out of one's responsibilities.

Taking the leadership here will bring us benefits, even if the Chinese don't follow us. But nah, that's communist.

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Greenhouse emissions grow more rapidly

Greenhouse gas emissions have been increasing four times as fast as in the 1990s, giving added urgency to international talks on climate change.

Research carried out for Unesco found on Friday that the rate of increase in emissions from burning fossil fuels between 2000 and 2005 was four times that between 1990 and 2000.

The research will be presented in Nairobi, where representatives from governments across the world are meeting to discuss the Kyoto protocol on climate change, which requires developed countries to cut emissions.

The accelerated rise is a result of rapid growth in developing economies such as China, India and Brazil, as well as the failure of developed countries such as the US to mitigate their greenhouse gas output. Even in countries such as the UK, which is on target to meet its Kyoto commitment to cut emissions by 2012 by 12.5 per cent compared with 1990 levels, emissions have been rising in recent years.

Despite efforts among some countries, such as those in the European Union, to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, the global growth rate was 3.2 per cent in the five years to 2005 compared with 0.8 per cent in the period 1990 to 1999, according to data from the Global Carbon Project.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 12:20:06 PM EST
Carbon emissions are already a speed, as they essentially measure the increase on the stock of carbon in the atmosphere.

So we are talking about an increase to the acceleration of the carbon in the atmosphere.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 12:21:51 PM EST
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Taking a CO2 level as the underlying variable, this is one d/dt too high. What you need is a cumulative effect of the higher temperature associated with a given CO2 level. The change in sea level resulting from the total volume of melted ice might serve.

It's bad enough, though.

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by technopolitical on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 03:28:00 PM EST
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yet another demonstration, in my view, that France's biggest problem is that its elites do not believe in themselves anymore

i think they believe in themselves, just not in France. an aspect of elite thinking since at least the revolution, you know, La France du déclin économique, démographique, militaire, diplomatique, politique et sociétal has been around for two centuries and counting.

and yet seems to prosper pretty well when left on her own, all things considered.

no, the elites cry "déclin" to mask the fact that they themselves, medias and political figures, are diminishing in power and influence. and who do they hold up as ideals? those they imagine are in the ascendant, the anglophone west.

one thing annoying about the greens i'll grant is this religious phobia they have about technology in the service of man. not all chemicals will cause the end of the world. nuclear energy is  relatively clean, relatively inexpensive, safer than many alternative. transgenic agriculture is not necessarily the harbinger of the end of mankind. so the malthusian comment is at least somewhat warranted as a metaphor. (this being said, one of my favorite guys to watch on tv is Noël Mamère.)
 

"C'est un scandale !"

by redstar on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 03:59:33 PM EST
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What's really bad is that Le Boucher didn't even try a bad pun.

I agree with most of what Mr. Hulot says, but I don't know about creating 'authorities' and I think that in medicine, prevention has to go alongside curing instead of being seen as an alternative.

The problem is that economists like Le Boucher want to isolate the problem of global warming so that they can retain an exclusive line to policy makers and sell them their advice. This is something of a turf war.

The green take (or mine, anyway) on this is that climate change is just one problem that emerges because we have an unsustainable economy and technological structure. It has to be solved in the light of the larger problem, and not as an isolated issue. It's all related...

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 01:28:54 PM EST
I saw this earlier and thought you'd be likely to jump on it ;)

I'm not sure about this:

France's biggest problem is that its elites do not believe in themselves anymore

M Le Boucher believes in himself all right. And he believes in international, globalising capital. That's who he works for.* And that may be a problem with many of France's "elites".

Otherwise this is an appalling piece of writing. A list of grudges against environmentalists, only to end, as you point out, by saying that measures like a CO2 tax are necessary. Just as long as environmentalists have nothing to do with it.

* Would he be economics editorialist at Le Monde without neo-lib Alain Minc's influence over the newspaper?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 01:38:06 PM EST

M Le Boucher believes in himself all right. And he believes in international, globalising capital. That's who he works for.* And that may be a problem with many of France's "elites".

I think we mean the same thing, mostly. French elites now believe in what the Anglo-Saxon elites believe in: money, lots of. They do not believe in what made them the elite in France: a strong sense of duty that made them work (via the State) for the common good.

The deal was: little power sharing with the masses, but a duty to conduct policies that are decent for said masses. Now they still have little accountability (thanks to the Grandes Ecoles systèmes, the preemption mechanisms, and the almost impossibility to be kicked out of the elite, etc...), but they are grabbing the money at the expense of the masses.

At least in the Anglo-Saxon countries, the elites are kicked out of political power more rapidly.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 01:51:04 PM EST
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especially that last point.

"C'est un scandale !"
by redstar on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 04:00:44 PM EST
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What the French elites have stopped believing in is their power to do things through the government, despite their proven track record of doing so.

I mean, some of the things that keep France competitive today are precisely the big things that the French technocrats built in the first half of the past 50 years: the nuclear power plants, Airbus, the TGV, a diversified industrial base (Total, St Gobain, Renault, Lafarge, Areva, EDF, the banks, Vinci, Suez, etc...), and the EU. It's not the pseudo reforms pushed over the past 25 years.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 01:57:09 PM EST
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europe as presently constituted ties their hands in many way, alas.

limited means of stimulus, no more subsidies to most strategic industries, no industrial policy which runs counter to stated competition policy, no national trade policies.

no yellow headlamps. i liked those things, the glare was far less harsh when staring into them.

"C'est un scandale !"

by redstar on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 04:03:54 PM EST
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There are three issues which get muddled together.

The first is "energy independence" or sustainability. Can a society become in balance with the environment so that it does not consume more than can be regenerated?

The second is greenhouse gas emissions. This is a global issue and some countries are more of a problem then others. The amount of change needed has to differ.

The third is ameliorating the already starting effects of climate change. Once again this is a local or regional issue. What is needed in central Europe is different that what must be done in Bangladesh.

To take these in order:

Sustainability can be promoted as a way for a society to become more competitive internationally, less dependent on international developments over which they have little or no control and more able to set their own social policies. Sustainability can be achieved by some combination of conservation, improved technology, cutting waste, creating new sources of energy supply and eliminating those dependent on non-renewable raw materials. Any society making the commitment comes out ahead regardless of what others do.

Those taking the most ecologically informed steps in point one will also reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. However, it is possible to become "independent" by substituting coal for oil and not improving emission levels. This seems to be the path that the US and China are planning to take. How to get them to pick other choices is a topic for another discussion.

As for dealing with the effects of climate change. There are two approaches. One can assume that models are correct and start to take measures now (like moving inland or building seawalls) or one can wait until trends are unmistakable and then try to do things in a rush. The second choice is not necessarily the wrong one. Is the UK going to get colder or warmer? Are sea levels going to rise enough that most Pacific islands will need to be abandoned? Is Bangladesh going to end up under water, and if so where will the people go?

Places like France and Germany can take steps to address point one now without dealing with points two and three. The payback will be immediate. Failing to act on sustainability because you can't solve global greenhouse gases is a poor (and incorrect) argument.


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---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 01:53:19 PM EST
Did they send out a bloody memo or something? How do I get on that circulation list?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 01:59:29 PM EST
As a matter of fact, we sometime call the greens "water melons", green outside but red inside.

So Mr. Boucher didn't invent that one.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 02:08:52 PM EST
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Clearly he didn't - see last week. It's still stupid even if he didn't invent it.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 02:23:51 PM EST
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in the us, a very big green politician, Peter Camejo, of California (and Nader's running mate in 2004) announced often quite proudly that he is Green on the outside, red on the inside.

Don't remember his refering to himself as a watermelon, though.

"C'est un scandale !"

by redstar on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 04:06:14 PM EST
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Underlying this, of course, is the now dominant definition of capitalism whereby any restriction to corporations is unacceptable (and immediately labelled communist and thus evil). Externalities cannot be internalised unless the Chinese and Americans do it, and as the Americans are "real" capitalists and don't do it, and the Chinese are, hmm, presumably real capitalists as well, and don't do it either, we should not do it.

It might also be a worry that our products might be outcompeted should we have a tax that others don't. But
can't we just go on ahead and place a carbon customs duty on imports from territories that don't have as high carbon tax?

by A swedish kind of death on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 02:17:07 PM EST
Or we could replace the existing broken and sociopathic "Corporation" with something better and internalise the stakeholders themselves....
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 04:07:22 PM EST
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Why of course "Britain understand this" Mr Le Boucher. And you understand Britain.

Perhaps you should consider moving there.

"C'est un scandale !"

by redstar on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 03:32:36 PM EST
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/11/17418/796

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 05:50:40 PM EST
Well, it's just another bull from the Congregation for the Propagation of the Economic Faith (a.k.a. the Holy Economic Office)...


"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sat Nov 11th, 2006 at 05:53:54 PM EST
How do we convince those opposed, starting with China and the USA. Certainly not by proposing "moderation", or by changing capitalism. (...) Of course one needs to create awareness (like the Greens or Al Gore), and tax carbon (like Mr Hulot proposes, but on a worldwide basis), but only if we increase R&D spending on clean energy sources. Not less growth, but more science.

There is no way of convincing USA by promoting less growth, period: preferences are too different, fuelled by, in large part, seeming infinity of the territory. Pollution and congestion can't bite as strongly there, and enviro concerns cannot be as strong. It's not surprising that one of the greenest states in the USA is California with many places resembling Europe by population density, and population projected to grow in the near future.

And, of course, how would you persuade Chinese family without a refrigerator that they won't get one because producing it will emit too much CO2? They'd immediately reply that it's "too much" because every European family had a refrigerator in the past couple of generations, and almost every US family had a car, and so on. Who should pay the price for last "excesses"? I think if you are Chinese, the answer is painfully obvious.

In other words, it's clear why France should lead the way and do more. (The article doesn't like this reality and proposes free-riding, which is clearly possible. That's the essence of proposal to wait until worldwide carbon tax, which might never materialise). It's also clear she should de-emphasize growth-reducing consequences of her actions in order to create a broad coalition - growth is the holy graal in the Anglo-Saxon world, and it brings hundreds of millions per decade out of abject poverty in China and India. And finally, saying that these measures should be proposed by anyone but Greens is just a pissing contest.

by Sargon on Sun Nov 12th, 2006 at 05:25:55 AM EST


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