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Prince Charles the Green: Question

by asdf Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 01:14:05 AM EST

Britain's Prince Charles has decided to turn over a new leaf and become the Green Prince. Good for him!

Prince Charles has told some of his staff to use bicycles in the fight against global warming. He is even prepared to travel to London by commuter train from a station near Highgrove. Charles wants to be remembered as the "Green Prince" and is making a personal statement by planning a radical shake-up of his travel plans.

He intends to make more use of the royal train and has ordered his chauffeurs to leave their cars behind and travel by bicycle when they check arrangements ahead of his appointments in London. Charles has also told aides to find a more environmentally friendly fuel for his fleet of cars.

[ThisIsLondon]

What should his carbon footprint look like?

For that matter, what should our own carbon footprints look like?


Our fearless leader Jerome (not pictured above) recently increased his personal carbon footprint substantially by taking an extended round-the-world airplane trip. Those of us fortunate enough to live in the West make a huge contribution to the total greenhouse gas load on our planet--some of us more than others. Particularly we nasty Americans.  :-)

And there are a bunch of Third World people whose entire contribution to the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is the result of heating a can of <whatever it is that you eat when you make $10 per month> and maybe a cigarette and the electricity generation contribution for their radio.

There's quite a range here, but where should right-thinking Westerners try to align themselves? Do we try to get down to the one-lukewarm-can-of-beans-per-day level? "Reduce" to Charles's level and only drive our Aston Martins on alternate weekends?

Vote for your option in annual metric tons of CO2 per capita. Data from Wikipedia

Poll
What is your carbon footprint goal?
. Lukewarm beans and rice. Afghanistan: 0.03 0%
. Can deal with cold. Peru: 0.96 0%
. Turkey is perfectly civilized: 3.1 37%
. Truly in Europe. Romania: 4.2 0%
. More nukes, please. France: 6.2 25%
. It's the air conditioning? Spain: 7.3 0%
. If you have it, burn it. Norway: 9.9 12%
. Czech Republic: 11.4 0%
. Estonia??? 13.6 0%
. USA, all the way: 19.8 25%

Votes: 8
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I'm wondering if it's possible to get down to 3 tons per year while functioning in the U.S. environment. Will have to think about this for a while...
by asdf on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 01:15:05 AM EST
With the global average being somewhat above 1 ton, we damn well need to reduce it to the Afghan level with time.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 02:49:27 AM EST
D'oh. I somehow misplaced my vote and can't correct it.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 02:53:32 AM EST
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yyy


'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 10:55:38 PM EST
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I read somewhere that we must reduce the average global emission to 1,2 tons per capita and year. Then nature could take it. But I don't know at which population it was from. If it was at 6 billion, emissions must be reduced to 0,8 tons per capita in a world of 8-9 billion, which is probably where we are heading.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 10:27:45 AM EST
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wow, they'll party hearty in afghanistan at 0.8!

'The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.' Thomas Piketty
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 10:30:41 PM EST
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In the Wikipedia list, for me, it's not Estonia that is a surprise. It's Russia: with 10.3 tons in 2003, it is ahead of most EU countries, though still well behind Soviet-time numbers.

Speaking of the EU, Luxemburg is confirmed as worst offender with 22.0, while Latvia is best with 2.9.

In cold and big Scandinavia (->heating, lighting, long-distance car travel, lots of electronics), apart from dwarf Faroer Islands, nuclear wonderland Finland is a surprise worst offender with 13.0 tons (I'd expected Norway here).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 03:01:48 AM EST
norway's electricity is all hydro no?
by HiD on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 04:36:22 AM EST
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Yes, but I'd thought that plentiful gas available for heating, the wooden (thus weakly heat-isolated) homes and (I thought) less mass transit outside Oslo than Finland has in the Southern region, together mean more consumption.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 05:01:08 AM EST
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The Norwegian are all hydro and all electric heating. The high emissions come from burning gas at all the offshore platforms to generate heat and power. That increases their emissions like 50 % IIRC.

So they are considering linking the platforms with the grid.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 10:25:00 AM EST
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Luxemburg and statistics...
Wait for an unified gas-tax within the EU and watch out the Luxemburg footprint.

La répartie est dans l'escalier. Elle revient de suite.
by lacordaire on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 07:25:48 AM EST
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Sweden is the nuclear wonderland, not Finland. Not yet. They still use the philospohy of diversification.
And to quote Warren Buffet:
Diversification is a protection against ignorance. It makes very little sense for those who know what they're doing.


Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 10:22:51 AM EST
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Sorry, you made it too easy.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 10:25:03 AM EST
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I lost you there?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 10:28:42 AM EST
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Estonia is probably so high because they generate power by burning oil shale.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 10:30:15 AM EST
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I'm really glad that Canada isn't on the list so I don't have to be embarrassed.

aspiring to genteel poverty

by edwin (eeeeeeee222222rrrrreeeeeaaaaadddddd@@@@yyyyaaaaaaa) on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 07:22:23 PM EST
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Charles is just a mega-hypocrite on this issue. He travels everywhere by fllet of gas-guzzling cars, his idea of using a commuter train is one personally dedicated to him. Not entirely surethat using an entire train for yourself is particularly green.

His farmers on his Duchy of Cornwall estates are obliged to pay for their own organic accreditations, neither are they given any help with alternative energy sources.

Meanwhile this poppinjay gads around the world in his own personal aircraft so see chums and buddies, all at taxpayers expense.

He is nothing but a self-righteous parasite.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 06:10:21 AM EST
The faux village of Poudbury pretty well sums up Charles' green credentials for me. So twee and yet so hideous.
by northsylvania on Fri Nov 17th, 2006 at 07:12:16 AM EST
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Someone should tell him that a bicycling monarchy consists of more than the staff.
by Sassafras on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 10:57:44 AM EST


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