Ain't this America?

by Keone Michaels
Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 01:37:02 PM EST

When I was growing up we were taught that "America is the best country in the world." "No ifs ands or buts about my boy," we are the strongest, purest, cleanest, most noble and righteous, most democratic country on the face of the planet! We were taught to think America was the best in one way or another, at school, in the newspapers, and TV. My family  didn't get a black and white television until I was 11 years old but I remember newsreels in the movie theater on Saturday mornings.  All the movies in those days, late 40s early 50s and even sometimes into the 60s started with a newsreel glorifying the American war machine.  Tanks, my overwhelming visual impression from those days in the dark theater with many other sweaty youngsters was of huge Bradley tanks, American tanks running over the enemy.  Our perfect, invincible war machine.


This  was and is the primary tenant that every American schoolchild is indoctrinated into until it is absorbed into his/her consciousness and is a building block of American citizenship.

Of course, for most of us of my generation, the first challenge to our belief that America could do no wrong, at least in a spiritual non-material sense, was the Vietnam war.  But, I suspect, others like myself, still harbored the illusion that America was the best at least in everything material and our spiritual set was just in a temporary slump.  Vietnam was merely a misstep, an unusual aberrant blip in the normal pattern of American righteousness.  Iraq of course has robbed us of all spritual illusions these many years later.

I was startled to realize recently that I no longer believe, even in the secret corners of my heart, that all things American, even those material things, are the best.  How did this epiphany come about? Simple, in my search for a good cup of coffee.  I found the so called French Press.

The French Press is way of making coffee that is basically making a soup of the coffee grinds and hot water and taking a fine wire mesh press, pushing all the grinds to the bottom and leaving a dark thick rich liquid behind.  It turns out that this type of process tastes so much better to me that hands down after I made my first cup I had an epiphany.  I realized that  Americans like myself for decades have been put thru this coffee filter marketing machine and never even given the choice until recently.  I didn't even know that an alternative to the nasty tasting brown filters or the better tasting yet more toxic white filters or some other variation thereof, including gold filters, existed. Drip down schemes designed to perpetuate profits not to maximize taste and the product. Sell the fools anther filter.  Snark!

Anyway, so what is my point?  America, to put it vulgarly, has lost it's cherry in many ways.  For decades, for example we were number one in citizen literacy.  We have fallen to 5th or 6th, perhaps down even more.  But we need not bash America today.  Instead I ask you to contemplate is what everyday items of the the culture and the market place do Americans take for granted that is best and Europeans and the rest of the world might know differently. The French Press is one example.  Another I recently came across is a polycarbonate and steel can opener also happens to be made in France, that is ergonomic and flawlessly opens cans, every-time, and after 50 years of trying many many can openers, this as they say is the Sh*t.

Anyone have any other product discoveries?

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by Keone Michaels on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 01:38:57 PM EST
I live on Kauai and until this year I drank Kona coffee from the Big Island of Hawaii because it was better.  But, I'm here to tell you that now the Kauai coffee crop has matured and is better than the Kona crop.  Just a heads up from a disinterested bystander.  Snark.
nah, it does taste better ....

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by Keone Michaels on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 02:36:48 PM EST
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I've been using a French Press since I went to college.  Why anyone would use anything else is incomprehensible...

Other faves:

Duvets.  And those showers they have where the shower is basically a tiled area with a drain.  Makes so much more sense!  The tipping system over there, so much better.  Ikea.  Just the whole use of space, so much more sensible.  In Russia there were these small stacked washer/dryer combos that fit in your kitchen or bathroom.  Loved that.  Armoire sets.  Also, these are more common the the US now, but the first time I saw a self-flushing toilet was in Germany.  Brilliant. Oh, yes, forgot the bidet!

And of course, most food and beverage products.  And Nivea.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 02:45:39 PM EST
When I was in college I didn't have a clue.  I'm blown away that I didn't find out about it until I became 64?  

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by Keone Michaels on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 03:50:31 PM EST
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And those showers they have where the shower is basically a tiled area with a drain.

What kind of shower construction is this better than?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 10:31:47 AM EST
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The kind that are not basically a tiled area with a drain...

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
by p------- on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 12:29:03 PM EST
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You wouldn't believe the number of times I've stubbed my toes getting into my fiberglass bowl of a shower!  Love those tiled floor showers you just walk into.  The best I've seen wre in Turkey.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 09:01:32 PM EST
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The first time I saw one was in a hotel in Tallin.  I walked in and at first was like, "where's the shower?" and then a few seconds later, when I realized the idea, I was smitten.  It seemed so subversive, to just let the water go wherever it goes, but so logical, to just tile everything and install a proper dehumidifer and stop waging the unwinnable war to keep the water in the shower and off the floor and walls.

Honestly, I love my olden claw foot tub I have now, but it makes showering a bit messy.  

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 11:18:09 PM EST
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Universal health care.
Free higher education.
State subsidized (regulated) child care.
Retirement security.
Japanese cars.
the BBC.
Respect for historic architecture.
Trains.

Things that the US does better (in general):
Startup innovative new enterprises.
Cost cutting.
Road building (except, perhaps, for Swiss tunnels).
Building (and using) weapon systems.
Generating paranoia.

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 06:07:35 PM EST
I'd add, on the pro-U.S. side:

24-hour subway and bus service (in the more livable areas of the U.S., that is)
24-hour bodegas and Korean grocers on every corner (again in the more civilized areas)
US mailpeople and UPS delivery guys--why are they all so pleasant?
Dues-free political parties
Restaurants being open seven days a week
Barnes & Noble same-day deliveries

by Matt in NYC on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 06:32:29 PM EST
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You guys forgot the tasteless tomato.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 09:51:31 PM EST
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by Matt in NYC on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 01:00:26 AM EST
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and hard little cottony-textured flavourless peaches slightly bigger than a golf ball...

but nothing beats fresh hawaiian avo or papaya!

or green fizzy young coconut milk....yummy spoonmeat

you put the lime in the coconut, shake it all about.

you have the singing frog invasion on kauai like they do on the b.i. keone?

i call there on the phone and the background noise is surreal!

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 08:25:16 PM EST
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there are a few in some small areas.  The County is doing what they can to kill them before they spread all over.  We'll see.  Coquis -- ex Puerto Rico I think.
by HiD on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 03:38:06 AM EST
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are you in kauai too, hid?

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 08:23:43 AM EST
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yes
by HiD on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 03:16:09 PM EST
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Tasteless tomatos and almost any "fresh" fruit or vegetable one buys in the "super market" are picked green so by the time they reach the market and sold they are just mush.  Home grown tomatos, even in America, still taste great!

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 09:46:07 PM EST
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I heard the tasteless tomato was developed as a breed that would withstand longer transportation times, and that the tastelessness was an regrettable side effect, but the bottom line is the bottom line.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 09:18:06 AM EST
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I'm sure that's quite possible. My bottom line is I don't buy them and I sure don't eat them.  There are some other notables, such as peaches.  I wonder if they have also been tampered with because I have been unable to find good tasting ones for a long time now. The avocados seem mostly to have been picked so unripened that they won't ever ripen properly. It's good to live in the tropics.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 09:30:10 AM EST
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Is there not a farmer's market where you live?  I guess I've been spoiled, because even in the States, I've rarely lived anywhere where I didn't have access to truly fresh-grown produce.  Where my mom lives, it seems like there are fresh produce stands every 10 feet.

And some grocery chains, like this extraordinary company in central Virginia, do make an effort to get high-quality, fresh, tasty produce.  Ukrop's used to have little tutorials for customers on how to properly care for their newly picked peaches, which were the best I've ever had.

And you can grow your own tomatoes practically anywhere!  Who needs those tasteless hunks o' Styrofoam that masquerade as tomatoes in most grocery stores?

At any rate, I think produce really ought to be seasonal, which is how it is here where I live; we get the best tiny cucumbers in the summer....

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 10:12:46 AM EST
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Thanks for the site. I'll have to check it out.  We do have a limited weekly farmer's market, but I haven't checked it in quite a while.  Might be worth looking into again.  Otherwise, there's not much available fresh here in overgrown suburbia.  If something did exist it would have been eaten already! I used to grow my own tomatos, squash, melons, and cucumbers, but haven't gotten back into that recently.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 12:32:32 PM EST
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Worse than the tomato is... iceberg lettuce!!!  It really ought to be outlawed.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 04:26:51 PM EST
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24-hour subway and bus service

Though the subway pauses between 23:10 and 4:30, Budapest has a rather extensive night bus service. Bratislava, Vienna and Berlin are similar, Frankfurt's is more limited (only on weekends IIRC).

24-hour bodegas and Korean grocers

This depends on where you are in Europe. Hungary is full of 24-hour grocers, Germany forbids them by law.

Dues-free political parties

Maintained by corporate donations instead. Where is the advantage in that?

Restaurants being open seven days a week

I suspect this again is country-specific.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 10:55:06 AM EST
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I had to look a second time on this:

Dues-free political parties

It appears this is at least a half-truth. For example, Missouri Democrats require a one-time membership fee of between $15 and $1,000, DuPage County Democrats require an annual $35 to $500 fee, Travis County Democrats want $120 to $1000 per year and so on. What worries me most about these is that higher contributions aren't required based on higher income, but are the basis of hierarchy, even explicitely saying that paying $500 entitles one to leadership position or trusteeship.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 09:12:34 AM EST
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However, you don't have to pay dues to have partisan voter registration, which is what you need to vote in a primary.

I still haven't seen an explanation of the difference between being

  • a registered voter
  • a volunteer/activist
  • a party member ("card-carrying"?)
and what is the role of the DLC in the first place (i.e., the interaction between the federal, state and local level within the parties).

You don't have to be a party member to be a campaign worker, for instance.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 09:21:19 AM EST
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However, you don't have to pay dues to have partisan voter registration, which is what you need to vote in a primary.

Now copied in Italy.

*  a registered voter

  • a volunteer/activist
  • a party member ("card-carrying"?)

I would think that's simple: the first is only entitled to vote, the second is 'entitled' to work his/her ass off, the last can take various positions in the party bureaucracy and vote in selections of delegates or local party leaders. Or is it more vague?

what is the role of the DLC

An elite club. Think of the Bilderberg Society, but for party politicians only. Or for another angle on it, say the 'entrepreneur wing' of an European party.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 10:03:59 AM EST
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If by "delegates" you mean the people who actualy go to the presidential nomination conventions, they are elected as part of the presidential primary process and so you presumably you just need to be a registered voter to take part in the selection of delegates. Presumably, too, you need to be a party member to be electable as a "delegate".

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 10:29:40 AM EST
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You have to be joking.

But I'd add seedless grapes on the plus side for the USA.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 07:05:47 PM EST
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Yes, rdf, what countries have you been traveling in that you think American "road-building" is such a model for the world?!
by Matt in NYC on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 01:27:14 AM EST
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The US has 4,000,000 miles of roads. I don't know whether people think this a good or bad thing, or they think that getting stuck in traffic is the fault of the roads, but I'm pretty sure this exceeds everywhere else.

The source:
http://www.bts.gov/publications/state_transportation_profiles/state_transportation_statistics_2005/h tml/table_01_01.html

The interstate highway system represents one of the biggest civil engineering projects of all time at 46,000 miles. There are many places where spectacular feats of bridge building were undertaken just so the road would be straight and direct. It also altered the course of the American economy in ways that we are now just starting to worry about. First, it led to a wide growth in suburban living and second it essentially killed the railroads as trucks were able to deliver anything anywhere more quickly.

Policies not Politics
---- Daily Landscape

by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 09:42:08 AM EST
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The EU15 has 3.9M km of roads. According to this source the US has 6.4M km of "road"and 91K km of "motorway" compared to 4.9M km and 58K km for the EU25. The US also has 207K km of rail network vs. 200K km for the EU25.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 09:49:48 AM EST
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Before this ends up as a verbal penis contest, shouldn't the focus be on the quality of roads and the time needed to cross a distance?

When I'd compare Germany and the USA on road quality and clarity in design, I'd say they're on a par.

by Nomad on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 02:36:55 PM EST
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I have to say driving on Southern California's roads left me utterly unimpressed with the quality of the road surface.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 05:18:43 PM EST
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Was that on a highway, or interstate? I haven't nailed it down, but I thought there was a difference between the two and who took care of them. Perhaps for a comparison between Germany and the USA, the German Autobahn and the American Interstate Highways come to mind.
by Nomad on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 06:07:34 PM EST
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The interstates that millions of people use to commute into LA from the East (10, 60 and 91). I drove (or was driven) pretty much all over SoCal.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 06:10:55 PM EST
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I've driven on the autobahns, autostrada, autopista, interstate, motorways (M-1, M-4), etc, etc and some recently built 4 lane toll roads in southern Mexico.  I'd say the surface quality of these "super highways" are pretty much equivalent if one considers traffic load, wear and tear, intervals needed for repair, and so forth.  The improved rails are definitely superior in most of what was Western Europe than what you find in much of the US.  The old East German rails left something to be desired.  I've ridden the rails some in Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Rep., Russia, and a few other formerly Eastern Eur. countries, but not enough to judge.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 10:05:18 PM EST
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At what time were you in East Germany and Central-Eastern Europe?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 05:25:11 AM EST
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East Germany, not long after dissolution of the SU, but somewhat later (up to 2000 or so) for some other former "Eastern Block" Countries. The Germans were already starting massive renovation projects in E. Germany, including the upgrading of rails, so yes, I'm sure most rail systems in the East would be unrecognizable for me today.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears
by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 09:22:32 AM EST
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Actually, the state of the East German railways was rather good before the collapse of the regime, too, that's why I was curious. The way German reunification was conducted economically brought forth a massive swing from rail to road, and much of the infrastructure was left un-maintained. Though, if your impressions are based on Berlin, I note another factor is that the division of Berlin meant that a lot of WWII-destroyed infrastructure was left to rot or restored only in a provisional state, and the massive reconstruction effort after reunification also meant the use of further provisoric tracks for in-service trains.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 09:58:51 AM EST
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For some reason, many of the things that leap to mind have to do with food.

"American cheese" is not cheese.  Although many Americans have learned to appreciate good cheese, and some have even learned to make good cheese, almost all of said good cheese originated elsewhere.

Biltong is much better than beef jerky.

Baked beans can be very good for breakfast.

American sugar-encrusted breakfast cereal is a crime against Nature and should be banned from the planet.

(On the pro-US side, I have yet to encounter any breakfast meat that beats American-style crispy bacon.)

And here are a few contributions that aren't food-related... at least, um, not directly....

Cricket is better than baseball.  (Baseball's not bad, but cricket is better.)

The bidet is a good thing.

Question:  Is the French Press really French?

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 08:02:37 PM EST
and it was made in Portugal.

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by Keone Michaels on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 09:38:37 PM EST
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is designated as "Turkish coffee" as far as I can tell.

And it is vastly inferior to Italian coffee, even the kind you make at home via a coffeepot whereby the water boil upwards through the coffee into a second part of the pot.

Of course, nothing beats a good espresso.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 10:01:15 AM EST
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Huh?  I have both a French press and a Turkish coffee pot, and they're very different.  There is no filtering involved in Turkish coffee.  Hmmmmm.

I will concur wholeheartedly with your statement about Italian coffee.  Even their airline has good coffee.  (Shock!)

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 11:24:39 AM EST
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No, the French press produces a different product than Turkish style.  With a French press, you don't have the grounds or the thickness of Turkish coffee (which I also love).  The act of pressing the coffee does produce an espresso quality coffee, though palatable enough to drink from a mug instead of a demitasse.  It is also insanely easy to make.  

I love espresso.  I have an espresso/cappucino machine, and I do love it, but it isn't practical to use it each morning.  And I'm not going to buy a $4 espresso drink from Starbucks when I can make my own coffee at home for almost free.  

I wont drink coffee from a conventional coffee pot, but I have heard great things about those pots where water boils upwards through the coffee into a second part of the pot, but they aren't readily available around here.  Plus, they still seem like more a fuss than the press.  

So far as the actual coffee itself, I've tasted them all and I have to say, Mexican coffee is the best.  It has a very chocolatey, never bitter, very smooth, rich flavor.  I have a ton of Eurpean coffee and never drink it.  I'm addicted to the Mexican stuff.  

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 11:36:35 PM EST
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Watching paint dry is better than cricket.  The only thing I really liked about it was you could read a newspaper or book at the same time knowing that you had a 99.9% chance of not missing anything important.  And at the physical game, you couldn't see squat.  but I suspect what you grow up with is what you like.

Things that I find better in Europe:

Bread, beer, food in general at least east of London.  Mass transit.  Access to cultural events, museums etc (unless perhaps you are in NYC),

Things better here:

Cost of basic goods like clothing and groceries (based on 6 years in the UK, I can't speak with authority re the Continent and it's been a decade).  Shopping/choice/service.  UK service was an oxymoron much of the time.  Movies?  pop music?  Seems easier to move up the class ladder but I've never had to live as a minority in either place.  Willingness to try new things.  The Brits drove us crazy with "someone designed that 100 years ago, why should we rethink it now?"  Water pressure/availability.  

But this argument is like the blind men describing the elephant.  We've all touched different spots and have difference biases.

by HiD on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 04:02:12 AM EST
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I didn't grow up with cricket, I just started watching it five or six years ago.  It's no slower or more boring minute-per-minute than baseball.  And it's more complex -- more ways to get out, more ways to score, you can hit the ball in any direction, an apparently lopsided match can suddenly swing in the other team's direction, and a drawn match can be the most exciting of all.  

Whereas, baseball... hit the ball, run, catch, foul, an occasional steal... over and over and over.  I like baseball too, don't get me wrong, but it is awfully repetitive.  C'mon, haven't you seen one of those six-hour baseball games that go into like 20 innings because nobody can friggin' score?

In both cases, you do need to understand the game to really enjoy it.  Anything can be boring if you don't get what's happening.

Really, cricket's a great game.  Add in a bunch of friends and a bunch of beer and a beautiful sunny summer day... no better way to play hooky from work.

(And how's this for heresy... I'd much rather watch rugby than American football.  They're gonna revoke my citizenship for that....)

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 06:42:08 AM EST
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oh I understand it.  I watched quite a bit while living in London.  But I prefer a 3 hr baseball game to a 5 day test match where 90% of the time the batter just blocks the ball.  Repetitive is over after over with zero change in the score.  tedious

matter of taste I guess.

As for an afternoon in the sun with a beer, the odds are much better with baseball since summer in the UK can be 2 weeks long some years.  It just seems so much nicer because it's so rare.  Maybe with a little global warming the UK can have Spain's climate.

by HiD on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 03:15:27 PM EST
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Well, I don't think anything compares to last summer's England vs Australia Test matches when there were several Tests which went right to the wire on the last day, with wild swings in fortunes throughout the previous days.

Coupled with quite awesome performances with bat and ball. Barely a block in sight.

The whole of the UK came to a standstill - followed by mass hysteria when we BEAT THE BASTARDS! Strangers embracing in the streets.

But the defining image was of the England bowler Freddie Flintoff - at the moment of the closest and most dramatic win (by 2 runs) in recent years - consoling the Australian batsman whose heroics took them so close (and almost caused me heart failure).

Nothing comes close IMHO. Couldn't have happened in any other game.

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 07:03:13 PM EST
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by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 07:16:26 PM EST
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Well less than 24 hours to go and it starts all over again, I think if some of the games are as close, there aren't going to be a few people in work on a Monday morning.

baseball i've always thought to be more the equivalent of the one day form of cricket, although maybe more the modern 20/20 version. When there is a team that's having to block to survive, there can be nothing tenser. I don't know as there is any physical game that is a greater test of concentration.


Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 05:49:39 AM EST
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I can buy a wide variety of mass-market European and other imported beers in local bars in the U.S.; stuff like Guinness, Bass, Boddingtons, Dos XX, etc.

Is it possible to buy Coors Light or Bud Light in European bars? Not asking whether anybody would want to, but is it possible?

by asdf on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 11:30:13 PM EST
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It is possible, yes. Coors light at least. I'm not sure about the other.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Nov 21st, 2006 at 02:00:13 AM EST
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Yes they are both available in lots of places

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Wed Nov 22nd, 2006 at 05:50:22 AM EST
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Of course many Americans are ignorant of the fact that plenty of the stuff they daily use has been invented outside America and often in Europe, and stuff that they don't use could be a "discovery" if they used it...

If you read the Yahoo news space press releases, it's astonishing to read that every time the ESA shows a technical success like Ariane, the SMART ion-propulsion engine or the landing on Titan, there is a horde of US Yahooers that immediately in pure astonishment point out "that's nothing - we can do it better"...

Europeans are used to US products (or were since US manufactured products tend to disappear more and more) and have a different reaction to this. What is mostly accepted is that plenty of trends and innovative thinking still come from the US (specially in the computer area or Internet use) and this is respected...

But the important point to me in the competition of the best ones" isn't products or even culture (still US dominated) but the model of society...

So the question is : is the American "liberal" (in the European sense) model of society still viable, compared to the more "welfare" European model ? Because isn't that the real question, the source of all political debates in Europe today ?

by oldfrog on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 09:43:30 PM EST
Some people would say that the source of all debates is whether the "welfare" model is still a viable alternative to the "liberal" model.

So there is a debate on what the debate is about. Those who have the most power to influence the discourse tend to think it's the "welfare" model that needs to justify its viability.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Nov 18th, 2006 at 09:47:55 PM EST
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died in the U.S. with Clinton's "reforms." Republicans and Democratic "centrists" have done a great job of villifying the very idea of the government doing something for ordinary people -- as opposed to welfare for corporations and the hyper-rich, which is still seen as a basic American right.

It never ceases to amaze me that all wingnuts have to say to cut off any discussion of universal healthcare is, "So you want socialized medicine?" As if socialized medicine were something like colon cancer. With attitudes like that, there's no way to "justify the viability" of the welfare model.  

by Matt in NYC on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 01:24:48 AM EST
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Europeans are used to US products (or were since US manufactured products tend to disappear more and more)....

I disagree with the notion that something must be built in a country if it is to reflect an achievement of that country.  My computer was built in Shanghai, but, last I checked, Apple -- the company that designed almost everything about it -- was still centered in Cupertino, California (which, contrary to what Lou Dobbs might tell you, is still part of America).

Manufacturing has been on the decline in America for decades.  Do people not remember, or know of, the economic fearmongering of the 1980s, when we were allegedly going to be overtaken by Japan?  A few years later, we began the greatest (peacetime) economic expansion in our history, and Japan became, well, something of a joke by comparison.  Manufacturing losses don't frighten me.  Cultural conservatism and our pathetic K-12 education system are the two things that frighten me, as an economist, but even these are minor in the great scheme of things.  We, for example, maintain a fantastic university system that can't expand fast enough to absorb the number of students who want to study.  It could certainly be improved upon, -- again, K-12 education is pathetic in the states -- but we're doing reasonably well, on the whole.

And I've never used a French press.  I drink the instant stuff, because it's dirt cheap and accomplishes the mission.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 02:42:38 PM EST
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The US incarcerates or has under judical restraint more people (higher percentage of it's population) than any other nation.  

At one time it was below Russia and perhaps South Africa but now I think we are number one.

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by Keone Michaels on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 12:51:38 AM EST
See this old diary of mine with statistics



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 10:06:13 AM EST
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is there a connection between the readership levels of the rightwing press, and the levels of incarceration in a country?

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 10:26:22 AM EST
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'The labor-saving device'

This is the most socially destructive concept in domestic life. It has been a catch-all for the mass production of useless, unnecessary and wasteful products - most of which are rarely used.

The important question is 'saved for what?'. How is this saved time and effort utlised?

I'm not against life-quality improvement. Nor am I a Luddite. My mother boiled dirty clothes in a copper cauldron, ran them through a mangle, then hung them out to dry in the garden. 'Wash-day' was a weekly event. A physical event - it was a lot of labour (spelling reversion). So I shared in the happiness when we got our first washing machine. It made my mum's life much easier.

I also helped my father clean his Gestetner machine - a tedious and laborious method of copying. First the document had to be typed (perfectly - no mistakes) on a special paper with a sublayer that took an impression of the keystrokes. This sublayer was then used to transfer the page image via a chemical process to copies on a crank-operated machine. A kind of primitive rotary offset process producing copies in aniline colour.

I also had the job of sharpening his pencils in a hand-cranked tabletop machine. Later I helped my older sister at the museum to produce large display texts. Each (physical) letter had to be aligned and mounted on a transfer screen by hand, before being glued to the display panel.

All these were labour-intensive. Tedious also, but in some way bonding. Before we got our first TV (for the Coronotion of Liz II), our typical family evenings would be spent with music. We all gathered round the piano, as my mother played, and sang together.

I do not know whether my parents resented their laborious lives, but to me as a kid it was joyous, with a sense of purpose and achievement. Even washing-up was fun, as my older sisters and I would sing and joke as we worked.

Then came TV. This was the gadget that filled the free time we got by using the labour-saving devices that came with relative affluence. It was the beginning of a lineage that would lead to the Royle family. Our lives would in future be measured by watching other people live, instead of living ourselves.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 03:11:48 AM EST
Over the years I've used a wide variety of coffee makers: drip, Italian two part ones, Chemex filters, vacuum Proctor-Silex, percolators, and espresso.

Except for percolators which boil the coffee I don't find the type has as much effect as what is put in them.
I used to buy pure Java, it is very mild.

Now I think coffee should taste like something and all this highly sugared, flavored, milk foamed, burnt coffee that Starbucks sells is disgusting.

What I now drink is "French Market" which comes from New Orleans, it is hard to find in local stores so I mail-order it. It is a blend of coffee and chicory (which to many reminds them of war-time limitations). It gives a robust flavor (that is, bitter) with less caffeine and one uses less (about 2/3 the usual amount). I make it in a single cup drip machine - my wife hates it. I add a little milk to cool it. So many things in the world taste like sugar or salt that having things still exist that are bitter or sour is becoming a lost experience.

Coffee is one of those areas where people can spend a lot of time on process - it gives them something to do and talk about. The latest foolishness is coffee pods (like tea bags). This limits your choices, requires you to use a specific brand or two of machine and makes a cup cost nearer to $1 rather than the ten cents using conventional coffee. A perfect product for our time.

I did try a French press a few times at a restaurant which was putting on airs, but I don't see the advantage of having to do all that work. It is still just filtered coffee - this time with the filter on the bottom instead of the top.

Vietnamese espresso which drips into a cup with condensed milk at the bottom is an interesting experience.


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by rdf (robert.feinman@gmail.com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 01:23:45 PM EST
In the high-tech gadget department, I was riding in a young guy's car in Korea and saw that the television in the dashboard wasn't working. This was because he'd dropped the service in favor of something cheaper -- television via his cellphone.

Television is, of course, a slow poison, but the U.S. has neither service today. Most Americans still think of Korea as backward.

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by technopolitical on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 05:28:29 PM EST
If they think of Korea at all.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 05:34:19 PM EST
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doesn't korea have the most extensive broadband rollout of any country?

i think of them as 'forward'...

must. not. envy.

i guess i'd rather share a border with switzerland and france than n. korea though...

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 08:35:00 PM EST
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I believe that Korea is behind Iceland -- but only Iceland, and only slightly.

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by technopolitical on Mon Nov 20th, 2006 at 02:35:32 AM EST
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I just have to make a plug for German roasted coffee because my wife and I love it. I've tried Jamaican Blue Mountain, and it's very good, but not worth the extra cost. Every time I had a layover in Frankfurt, the first thing I would do was fill up my suitcase with fresh Edusho Gala 1. Knew where all the stores were, and had the best smelling suitcase on the airplane home.  Now that I don't travel so much, we buy Jacobs (also German) when in the US.  Also like French and Italian roasted coffees.  American brands for many years used the cheapest beans they could find, including robustus.  But the roasting process has a lot to do with flavor.

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by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sun Nov 19th, 2006 at 10:20:29 PM EST


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