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EU members and officials obstructing CIA detention investigation.

by Colman Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 01:44:07 PM EST

The EU's foreign policy chief Javier Solana is among a number of top officials accused of concealing information from a European Parliament inquiry into secret CIA detention centres for terrorism suspects.

A draft European Parliament committee's report said today that a number of European countries knew about the so-called rendition programme and obstructed the investigation.

The report criticised many of top EU officials including Mr Solana and counter-terrorism coordinator Gijs de Vries.

It also accused the former head of Italy's SISMI intelligence service of "concealing the truth" when he told the committee that Italian agents played no part in the CIA kidnapping of an Egyptian cleric in 2003.(Ireland.com)

Cowards. How many of these people have committed crimes under domestic and international law?


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Yet again Parliament is the only body even trying to do its job.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 01:52:53 PM EST
I wish we had one.  Maybe soon...maybe.

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by NearlyNormal on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 06:54:24 PM EST
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A draft European Parliament committee's report said today that a number of European countries knew about the so-called rendition programme and obstructed the investigation.

I'll bet they all knew, even the ones the bushistas didn't clue in. They all have their intelligence agencies and their information-gathering networks. How could they not have heard at least something?

A number of nations were directly complicit, and probably quite a few more knew and said nothing.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 02:04:25 PM EST
Eleven governments knew

Come on, Europeans! You've got an International Criminal Court right there in your own backyard. Time to show the U.S. what civilized peoples do with criminals against humanity.

by Matt in NYC on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 05:27:57 PM EST
Eleven knew something. I'm still not clear what.

I'd say there are three tiers here:

  1. Knew pretty much what was going on in their territory and either gave approval or participated. They need prosecuting.

  2. Knew planes were doing something illegal and let them through anyway. The need sacking.

  3. Knew planes were CIA but didn't know what they were up to. They need to be more careful and less trusting in the future.

In the Irish case it's not clear that the planes were doing anything illegal here anyway - if there weren't any prisoners on board, what was illegal about the flight? Not that the Irish government wouldn't have covered it up if there was something going on, but so far I haven't seen any evidence that there was anything illegal going on here. Anyone seen a copy of the draft document?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 04:27:28 AM EST
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The Irish Human Rights Commission, speaking today to the European Parliament's Inquiry into Extraordinary Rendition by the CIA, made it clear that irrespective of whether or not prisoners were on board the CIA flights which landed at Irish airports, that the Irish Government has a responsibility under the UN Convention Against Torture and the European Convention on Human Rights to actively ensure that Irish territory was not used as part of the rendition circuit. They made it clear that reliance on `diplomatic assurances' is not an adequate protection.

"It is an established fact that Mr. Abu Omar was kidnapped in Italy and transferred to Egypt by the CIA where he is reportedly still detained and tortured. The very plane used in that kidnap operation, known as the `Guantanamo Express', stopped-over, presumably to refuel, at Shannon airport on 18 February 2003. It was returning to Washington directly from the rendition of Abu Omar. That clearly makes Ireland an accomplice to that illegal operation.

"According to Euro-control records, provided to the European parliament, there have been 147 stopovers by CIA operated planes in Ireland. We don't know how many of these were engaged in activities contrary to International law; we don't know who the crews were, or if there were passengers, or if they were carrying cargo and if so what kind of cargo. We don't know any of this quite simply because the Irish government has refused to seek such information or to put in place an inspection procedure as a preventative measure.

The Minister for Foreign affairs, Mr. Dermot Ahern, will be facing these and similar questions on Thursday next (30/11/06). He will have to explain why the Irish government has refused to accept the advice of the IHRC to put in place a system of random inspections of CIA flights into Ireland in order to be fully compliant with our international obligations and to prevent, insofar as we can, the rendition of prisoners to countries were they will be tortured.


www.derossa.com, which is the web-site for a reasonably senior MEP from an opposition party here.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 04:33:34 AM EST
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Only the national parliaments have subpoena powers with teeth. Not the Council of Europe, not the European Parliament.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 04:42:53 AM EST
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The report said 11 EU nations -- Britain, Poland, Italy, Germany, Sweden, Austria, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Greece and Cyprus -- had knowledge of the alleged U.S. secret anti-terrorism measures taking place on European soil.

Is anyone else surprised that Denmark and the Netherlands aren't on this list?

by Matt in NYC on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 05:34:44 PM EST
Dutch minister Bot of Foreign Affairs is one the last few minister of the Balkenende government for which I still have a bantam amount of respect.

Because the Dutch government (any Dutch government) is pretty awful in cover-ups.

by Nomad on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 05:54:38 PM EST
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not to see France in the list. I would have expected our government to participate joyfully to that kind of stuff.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 07:24:37 PM EST
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There will be other governments where there is not quite enough evidence to name them.
by observer393 on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 10:47:40 PM EST
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I believe France was avoided by the CIA flight/prison operation.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 04:13:09 AM EST
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Parliament to have the power to send home individual official, be them Commission or Council members...
by Nomad on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 06:02:28 PM EST
i'm very heartened that someone is offering some transparency on this.

accountability, next...

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 08:58:28 PM EST
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accountability, next...
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hahahaha!!!!!Good one!
by vbo on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 10:43:59 PM EST
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hey i'm serious.

did you think even this would come out?

It's a fine line between homage, parody, and consumer opportunism. Jess Walter

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 11:25:24 PM EST
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The parliament's rules of procedure basically say "Member State national security trumps all". I have posted the relevant paragraphs twice before, will try to dig them up.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 04:14:59 AM EST
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So there were European governments who enjoyed holding the moral highground on not going into Iraq and who enjoyed that they were backed by their people on this. But then those governments thought well we don't want to totally piss off the US so we will let them carry out a few covert rendering and mass torturing operations, after all our people will never know the duplicitous nature of us. Now it leaks out and said governments still do not want their people to know. No surprise there.
by observer393 on Tue Nov 28th, 2006 at 10:46:42 PM EST
Europe is nothing else but marionette of USA. For quite some time...certainly from WWII. So what's there to be surprised about? There are few Europeans on the higher positions with conscious but they are easily brushed away when they start talking. I still hope Europe will "grow" some spine again one day...
by vbo on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 03:55:25 AM EST
This investigation has discovered amazing material, but it is hardly being reported in the US.  Is there a website for the EP's investigating committee?

By the way, there is a page on the CIA's secret prisons at dKosopedia.com, see Secret Prisons Timeline.

by corncam on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 05:34:37 PM EST
European Parliament: Temporary Committee on the alleged use of European countries by the CIA for the transport and illegal detention of prisoners.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 29th, 2006 at 05:43:46 PM EST
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