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have you ever faked an Orgasm?

by PeWi
Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 10:31:57 AM EST

"Yes, ..."

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This was the answer a politician - Ute Voigt - Candidate for the SPD which is a opposition party in the Baden Wuertemberg parliament, gave, when she was being asked the question on Radio, while connected to a lie detector.

What a funny world we are in. On the one hand I like the fact, that she is able to speak freely about sex, in public. On the other hand the article is entirely politics free - just personal interest.
No political information, what-so-ever.

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have you ever faked an Orgasm? | 25 comments (25 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: have you ever faked an Orgasm? (4.00 / 3)

I don't even know what the fourth option on that poll means.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 10:43:42 AM EST

Interesting. (none / 1)

I'd prefer to know
a) that a person is competent (very rarely addressed anywhere in the world ...)
b) that have the same 'political priorities' as I.

Ms. Voigt comes across as someone with an "honest and straight talking" persona, a bit like Clinton or Blair at their most professional. All about image. Well played.

They say people get the candidates they deserve. I wonder where Paliament Big Brother will take us?

(Oh and "Lie Detector"? WTF? Do people really believe it measures anything except stress? What's next, Tarot elections?)

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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 11:13:42 AM EST

Re: Interesting. (none / 1)

Tarot Elections. I like the sound of this.

Could it be any weirder than what we get now?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 02:40:20 PM EST
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Re: Interesting. (none / 0)

Tarot is a great storytelling device, actually. Sort of like a Rorschach test.

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 03:27:54 PM EST
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Re: Interesting. (none / 1)

"You're the one showing me all these dirty pictures!"

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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 05:34:18 AM EST
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Stress (none / 1)

I presume that it is the stress from saying one thing while thinking another, is exactly what they are trying to measure.

Beyond the lie detector, we now have methods to see, in real time, which areas of the brain are most active at any given moment in time.

We now know that there are hundreds of areas within the brain which are more active in reaction to different stimulii. And, because of evolution, these areas function in a conceptually different way than our conscious perception of reality. So, for example, a set of neural networks that have evolved to process friend or foe type conundrums, will also reveal brain activity for other similar problems.

Now, don't quote me. but I think I read recently in a science mag that the area of the brain activated when telling the truth is different from the one when you are not. It is a physiological phenomenon that would reveal liars far more accurately than galvanic measurements of the skin...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 04:04:11 PM EST
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Re: Stress (none / 1)

I read this, too. I believe lie-detector MRI's have been, or are close to being, operational.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 04:30:41 PM EST
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The MRI society - yeeach (none / 1)

Sadly, If I could read your thoughts, you could read mine - so we'd get the MRI escalation wars.

It would begin with Presidents, PMs and Kings undergoing global questioning live - with a drop into a vat of boiling asphalt below as a reward for saying something your brain can't support..

But eventually I would have to do the same thing....

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 05:34:12 PM EST
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Re: The MRI society - yeeach (none / 0)

Hey, if I thought that's where it would begin, I wouldn't be so against it. ;-)

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 05:43:17 PM EST
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Re: The MRI society - yeeach (4.00 / 2)

You're cruel ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:03:22 PM EST
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Re: The MRI society - yeeach (none / 0)

Read The Rose by Ursula LeGuin anyone?

by A swedish kind of death on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 07:38:45 AM EST
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Scary (none / 0)

Suddently shampoo with extra aluminium sounds good.

"Tinfoil hat? You're soaking in it!"

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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 10:18:29 AM EST
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Re: Scary (none / 0)

If you use deodorant, then your armpits are immune from conspiracy ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 24th, 2006 at 11:59:59 AM EST
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"Spass-society"? (none / 0)

Could someone please explain this expression briefly?

(I didn't speak German during the 70s, and I wasn't born for much of it.)

Is this hippie-related at all?

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sapere aude

by Number 6 on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 11:16:45 AM EST

Re: "Spass-society"? (none / 0)

Spaß means enjoyment in German...

A vivid image of what should exist acts as a surrogate for reality. Pursuit of the image then prevents pursuit of the reality -- John K. Galbraith

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 11:18:04 AM EST
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Re: "Spass-society"? (4.00 / 2)

Spass=fun.

Spassgesellschaft: fun-society, a society that doesn't mind making fun, unlike the old pre-sixties society.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 11:19:00 AM EST
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Re: have you ever faked an Orgasm? (4.00 / 4)

Why is there no "Yes, but not my own" option?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 01:32:19 PM EST

Re: have you ever faked an Orgasm? (4.00 / 3)

Why is there no "Yes, but not with you, dear" option?

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 02:19:17 PM EST
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Re: have you ever faked an Orgasm? (4.00 / 4)

Probably for the same reason there's no 'Yes, but I wasn't awake at the time' option.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 02:39:30 PM EST
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Re: have you ever faked an Orgasm? (4.00 / 4)

Said the one behavioral psychologist to the other: "It was good for you, how was it for me?"

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