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YK - Energize America presentation (part 1 - the energy crisis)

by Jerome a Paris
Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 07:50:58 AM EST

I will be posting the full presentation of Energize America in the next few days, in several instalments. Today, the first part of the presentation, which is an overview of the energy situation.

First of all, a photograph of the panel, with Bill Richardson (Governor of New Mexico and Secretary of Energy under Bill Clinton) surrounded by the Energize America team: from left to right: Mark Sumner (devilstower), Jérôme Guillet (Jerome a Paris), Gov. Richardson, George Karayannis (Doolittle Sothere), Adam Siegel (A Siegel).


  • US oil consumption is growing, while production is going down, and the current trends are expected to continue in the future

  • The evolution of median wages in the US in the past 40 years is surprisingly similar to that of energy consumption. Any energy crisis will have an impact on living standards unless that link between energy consumption and prosperity is finally broken (and not the way the Bush administration appears to be doing it, i.e. increasing consumption and stagnating wages...)

  • After great years for oil discovery, these have become rarer, and for the past 20 years, we have been burning more oil than we discover - every year.

  • With Indian and Chinese demand set to increase massively, this can only get worse

  • We've all noticed gas price increases. They have doubled in the US in the past 2-3 years

  • But what is more interesting is that markets have changed brutally in the past two years with respect to their expectation for long term prices. For the past 20 years, the expectation was that, whatever the short term price, it would revert to 20$/bl in the medium term. No longer. The markets now expect prices to remain at their current levels for the foreseeable future.

  • This implies major changes in investment decisions in a number of economic sectors.

And yet consumers have yet to change their behavior. Gasoline consumption is still increasing year on year.

  • Most of our energy use still takes the form of burning hydrocarbons. Wood in the past, then coal, and now coal, oil and natural gas. This generates carbon dioxide emissions into the atmosphere

  • And worries about today's emissions levels are nothing compared to what is expected in the near future, with significant increases in the USA and even more massive increases from China.

Carbon emissions and energy consumption per capita are directly connected to economic development, with small variations. The USA, as the largest country, consumes the most energy and emits the most greenhouse gases, but others are catching up as they grow.

Greenhouse gas emissions are now undoubtedly associated with global warming and climate change, and events like stronger hurricanes are linked to these with less and less doubt, and with the consequences we know.

  • Previous oil crises were linked to temporary supply shocks.

  • Today's crisis comes from the relentless growth in demand, pushed by storng world economic growth.

  • Demand is expected to go up worldwide just as supply increasingly appears to be constrained and to have trouble keeping up.

  • These two conflicting trends cannot continue and will not continue.

Solutions will have to come on the demand side, with conservation and efficiency required to curb demand.

It is vital for the USA to take the lead in changing energy consumption patterns.

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Congratulation,

did you avoid the word "tax" in your presentation ? ;-)

GTL:

some in Australia are thinking to build a GTL factory (gas to liquid) to convert gas into liquid petrol, it looks expensive but perfectly in the line of using our huge reserves of natural gas.

what do you think about this solution ?

by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Sat Jun 10th, 2006 at 09:14:17 PM EST
GTL is fine, but peak gas is not far behind peak oil, so it's just a temporary solution.

We did not discuss taxes in our presentation, no.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jun 10th, 2006 at 09:18:10 PM EST
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Nice suit.  Nice graphs.  Nice you.  People missed this for Plame?  Insanity...

Seriously, though...  I have not seen An Inconvenient Truth yet, but has anyone on the Energize America team shown your plan to Al Gore?  If he's just decided to spend the rest of his life caring about the environment, it seems he'd be really interested in this issue.  If he's secretly running for President, I'm sure he could use a kick ass energy plan...

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 01:30:53 AM EST
Good post, Jerome. I'll be waiting to see the others.

Thanks for your work on this...it's taken a lot of your time and human energy.

It's important to get this out and for people like the good governor (and other presidential would be's) to see that there are intelligent people who are concerned about this and who can develop creative solutions.

by gradinski chai on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 02:39:57 AM EST
In your presentation there is statement that high oil prices are long term fuelled by strong economic growth. I would agree on middle term high oil prices but about 10 years and thereafter I am not certain. Current level of oil prices already fuels inflation everywhere and porr stratas are most vulnerable especially in countries like India, Pakistan, Indonesia, China. From history we know inflation and massive poverty lead to political instability and some Asian states needed extra measures like State of Emergency in India 1975-1977.
Are you sure we will not see anything like that? Current Indian government of Mr Manmohan Singh starts looking insensitive to common man plight. Nepal undergone political revolution with yet unclear results. Pakistan and Sri Lanka are unstable too. In China there are internal giant pressures.  
by FarEasterner on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 03:57:08 AM EST
I think it is a dual factor.

Political instability can reduce supply, but it's becoming clear that most of our growth and prosperity is built on energy, much of it as oil. If economic activity growth is to continue, which seems likely as it is the aim of all the politicians, even in China and India, then demand would seem fated to keep going up.

Once you add in the apparent running out of oil supply, demand becomes possibly the most serious part of the price equation.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 08:34:34 AM EST
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I'll be reading the slides after my morning stretching & jog, but I'll start with this remark: the entire panel is wearing suit & tie, except the Governor who's in jeans and tee-shirt.
by Alex in Toulouse on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 04:39:27 AM EST
Jerome, did you get any kind of sense from Mr Richardson of what the thought of your plans so far? Is he willing to work to implement this? Curious...

Half the population is under the age of 18. Tanzania's future is NOW...join the 50% campaign!
by whataboutbob on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 04:47:27 AM EST
I like it, Jerome. As always, good graphics, good impact (they interrelate) and good point.
When we spoke a week or so ago, you said Americans would cope with 6 dollar a gallon gas by just buying a twingo-esque car. I disagreed. I never got to explain why- there was no real discussion. Perhaps you are right- I should just post entertaining airplane stories.
But somehow I think I have a bit more to contribute, so I will try to play in a bigger pond than that.
I admit that I see no alternative to massive US action to break the addiction- it must happen, and soon. But I think we mostly fail to even discuss two essential points- transition points that must happen first, --or at least simultaneously with new energy policy, or it will all just recur.
  1. In the US, success remains at least partly defined as the gargantuan heap of steaming metal in your driveway. Twingo = failure, for many. A fundamental change in the definition of success- in values- is therefore at the heart of the problem, and we have not even touched on how we will accomplish that.
  2. The US sells snake oil better than anyone, and the brand we sell best is our seeming wealth. It aint necessarily so. The economic slack that would allow us to continue to commute long distances in cars with one person in them and pay for post-peak, post-Bush gas may very well not be there, --except for members of an elite of one sort or another. And we have no real mass transit.

Wages slip for most, surge for the tiny fraction at the top. The lie of the average. So look, at the modal data. Whip up one of your wonderful graphs that shows the curve of blue collar individual wages since 1973, and it would make a fair downhill ski run. Yet family income has slipped only a bit- because we now have 2.3 people working just to tread water. and yet we have been convinced that we are richer. Am I wrong? Come on, Churchill, politely deconstruct me. There is a plethora of spin available to do it with--- that's how we came to believe that crap to start with.

Perhaps it depends on whether you consider the Jet-ski, the weed-whip, the riding mower in your garage as wealth, and how many of the hours you could have spent with the kids you are willing to trade for them.

What if Life-Hours are the real currency of highest value? Man, are we donating them copiously to our bosses.
Just try to convince an American that the 35 hour work week is worth discussing.

Yet we silently take it, we allow union power to evaporate, we shop at Wall-Mart, and assist in cutting our own throats.
The real problem is not oil alternatives or energy policy, but an educational system that fails to teach kids to know "a hawk from a handsaw", --a long-term problem-- and a loss of the value that says "You can and must ACT!"
Enough.
I look forward to the rest of it.
And to a discussion of the value changes and the ACTION  that must happen if anything is to change, fundamentally.

"If someone has their foot on my neck, I will say once, please get off my neck. If you continue to stand on my neck and explain how you didn't know you were there and why you were there and how difficult it is to move, I cannot be nice about it any more. It's not about conversation; in the end it's about getting your foot off my neck.

(Author unknown, but nice. From a piece by Greg Palast.)

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 06:56:57 AM EST
Excellent presentation, Jérôme, congratulations. I think you very rightly left (relatively) the supply side (Peak Oil etc) in favour of the demand side, and brought out clearly the oil/cheap energy link to growth and incomes (or debt...).

I think there's a mistake in your diary text: "Previous oil crises were linked to temporary demand shocks" should surely read "temporary supply shocks" (?)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 10:56:29 AM EST
Demand will, without question, become the most serious part of the price equation, if we assume demand will rise faster than production will fall, as I think is likely.  The bottom line is that demand is rising too fast for the supply to meet it, and that means inflation kicks in.  It's so basic and common-sensical an idea that I can't believe so many people, especially in the press, do not understand it.  The good news is that demand breeds supply.  The world needs energy in order to function well, and the market will inevitably move to other sources when the price becomes too painful.

That is assuming we do nothing to make the transition easier on individuals and businesses.  And there is, obviously, a nearly-infinite amount we can do.  The transition is made difficult, I think, partly because of the difficulty in coordinating all of the factors for a renewable-source market.  E85 and hydrogen stations need to be opened, but they won't open until there are drivers who use E85 or hydrogen.  Well, the drivers won't buy cars that use one of the two until there is a solid source selling at a competitive price.

Without some direction from -- wait for it -- the government, I think we're left for the moment at a really shitty Nash Equilibrium.  So there needs to be a coordination -- again, I think it will have to be through the government if we are to get it done as quickly as possible -- using, for example, tax credits and/or penalties to, first, get the stations online (perhaps temporarily guaranteeing a profit of x%), and to, second, push consumers and manufacturing into those sources by (say) giving tax credits to consumers that are sufficient to make the renewable-source cars irresistible.

Some areas of the US already have access to E85, thanks to legal requirements pushed through by state legislatures years ago.  My state does not have it, despite the fact that Florida produces sugar, which, as I understand it, is more efficient than corn for producing ethanol -- hence the American government's protection of our corn growers who don't want to compete with Brazilian sugar.

Anyway, I've rambled enough.  Loved the slides, Jerome.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 11:48:52 AM EST
Excellent presentation, Jerome. I'm looking forward to the next batch of slides.

How was it received?

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 12:12:18 PM EST
How was it received?

Judging by the reports of a practically empty room, "profound indifference" seems to be the general reaction.

Seems like Bush isn't the only one who couldn't give a sh!t about the planet and what happens when oil runs out.

I accept that's unfair but I feel disappointed for Jerome and all the effort he's put in to try to wake the beast, only to find out they'd rather go play conspiracy theories.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 02:14:16 PM EST
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I can only hope Jerome's presentation gets a much better response in other venues.  As much I feel that other issues like the war in Iraq, health care, education, racism etc are extremely important if we don't have a planet left all else becomes moot.

"People never do evil so throughly and happily as when they do it from moral conviction."-Blaise Pascal
by chocolate ink on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 04:13:48 PM EST
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A comment from having been there ...

  • The room was mainly energy groupies (including me), who did not need this discussion to be convinced this was an issue.

  • In conversations afterwards (over the next two days), there were many positive comments about the session -- including "best session" ... heard this being said to reporters.  Will have to see if EA2020 gets picked up in the press in the coming weeks.

  • Some of the positive goes to politicians, as well, with the first candidate having gone public with EA2020 as his energy platform (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/12/1733/61930).  Note: this candidate is a trained nuclear energy, worked in the Carter energy program ... e.g, on the substance, he has credibility.

Thus, while disappointment at the low turnout relative to Plame fame is understandable, there are many positives to be taken from the event as well ...
by BesiegedByBush (BesiegedByBushATyahooDOTcom) on Mon Jun 12th, 2006 at 06:00:13 PM EST
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Thanks for that report Besieged.  Glad to hear it wasn't as bad as I feared.

"People never do evil so throughly and happily as when they do it from moral conviction."-Blaise Pascal
by chocolate ink on Mon Jun 12th, 2006 at 06:10:19 PM EST
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Thank you for a lucid presentation.

You have shown that demand for energy, and particularly transport fuels is quickly rising and the prospects for oil production look bleak.  Therefore substitutes are being found and pressed into service to satisfy the demands for liquid transportation fuels as well as energy.  Coal is a resource that can and is being quickly exploited toward this end, especially in the expanding industries of the East.  Using coal locks us into even more rapid increases in CO2 emissions, leading to faster and more severe climate change.

Ways to reduce CO2 emission might be higher efficiency or carbon sequestration.  However I doubt that either will help on the scale required.  As shown in the presentation, energy demand is set to increase by 37% over the next decade and a half.  Today, five parts in six of our total energy production comes today from fossil fuel.  I am afraid this fraction will increase.   And I see no realistic prospect that efficiencies will increase by anywhere near enough to balance out the increasing use of coal.  Carbon sequestration has been mentioned as a solution to the CO2 problem, but I am unimpressed.  The proponents of carbon sequestration seem to have very little idea of the enormous volumes of CO2 that would have to be captured and stored.  As a crude estimate, consider that every mole (12 grams) of carbon produces a mole (44 gi, 22.4 liter at room temperature and pressure) of CO2.  We burn approximately 10 petagrams of coal a year, which turns into 37 petagram of CO2 (18 petaliters of CO2).  Capture of any appreciable fraction of this CO2 is not economically or energetically feasible today, and perhaps not ever.  We understand thermodynamics and carbon chemistry rather well, so I do not think that there will be any technical breakthroughs in this matter.

I do not think the global economy will grind to a halt due to lack of liquid transport fuels.  Rather, we will  mine coal, burn it and turn it into gasoline, for another thirty years, until this warming earth passes to our children.

I do not really see a way for the world out of this trap.  As has been pointed out by others, any large scale program of CO2 control will require a change in attitudes of a large fraction of the peoples of the world.  I see no such change occurring in this generation.  The next generations may be wiser than we, but they will pay for our profligacy  for centuries.

I have some other thoughts on the situation, but this comment is already too long.  I would welcome any ideas that might show ways out of this timeline. In particular, how can we break attitudes bred through a century and a half of dependence on fossil fuel, in less than a generation?

sidd

by sidd on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 01:40:19 PM EST
I usually see carbon emissions measured in tons.  What would be the annual total of CO2 requiring sequestration in tons?

In the past few years I've noticed a tendency for people to assume that a hydrogen economy would save us (but where do we get the energy on a scale big enough to make the quantity of H2 that would be required?), that fuel cells would save us (that technology is progressing but, again, when will we get to a large scale?), and that carbon sequestration is the simple answer to the gigantic contribution coal combustion makes to global warming.

An article in the June 11 NY Times discusses the vast amounts of pollutants coal combustion in China produces.  There it causes 400,000 premature deaths per year.  Burning all that coal has given more people more electricity, so they are leading better lives--a tradeoff the growing Chinese middle class is more than willing to make.

If the US starts turning coal into liquid automotive fuel, our 200 years of coal reserves will rapidly shrink to a matter of decades.

by Plan9 on Mon Jun 12th, 2006 at 10:26:44 AM EST
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I apologize for not replying earlier.

Plan9 on Mon Jun 12th, 2006 at 10:26:44 AM EDT  wrote

"I usually see carbon emissions measured in tons.  What would be the annual total of CO2 requiring sequestration in tons?"

A metric ton is one million grams.
A Petagram is a million metric tons.
So 37 petagram CO2 is 37 million metric tons.
For every ton of coal we mine, we have to bury 3.7 tons if CO2 in such a manner as to isolate it from the atmosphere for hundreds of years.

"In the past few years I've noticed a tendency for people to assume that a hydrogen economy would save us (but where do we get the energy on a scale big enough to make the quantity of H2 that would be required?), that fuel cells would save us (that technology is progressing but, again, when will we get to a large scale?),..."

We must make the energy to make hydrogen for the fuel cells, and I am afraid that increasing portions of our energy will come from coal.

"...and that carbon sequestration is the simple answer to the gigantic contribution coal combustion makes to global warming"

I see no serious possibility today of effectively burying several tens of millions of metric tons of CO2  per year.

"An article in the June 11 NY Times discusses the vast amounts of pollutants coal combustion in China produces.  There it causes 400,000 premature deaths per year.  Burning all that coal has given more people more electricity, so they are leading better lives--a tradeoff the growing Chinese middle class is more than willing to make."

Perhaps, until they run out of clean air and fresh water.

"If the US starts turning coal into liquid automotive fuel, our 200 years of coal reserves will rapidly shrink to a matter of decades."

I think this will happen, worldwide, implying for example, that 10 million Bangladeshis must relocate every decade.  Not to speak of more disastrous effects.

sidd

by sidd on Fri Jun 16th, 2006 at 06:07:33 PM EST
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Where can one get a copy of the YKos presentation and the Energy plan?

There is a non-zero chance I can get it into the hands of Gov. Richardson fairly soon.

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!

by ATinNM on Sun Jun 11th, 2006 at 05:59:40 PM EST
Ignore.  Question answered in Part II.

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!
by ATinNM on Mon Jun 12th, 2006 at 01:22:34 AM EST
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