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Aurelius and The Art of Poo

by Alexander G Rubio
Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 11:19:11 AM EST


Your very own poo in a box!
Early on when I started writing poetry, I read a quote somewhere, by I know not who, which went something like this: "If it can be said just as well in half a page of prose, it's said better in prose."

It goes to what something is, and what it isn't, in its nature. A  poem which adds nothing to the purely literal and abstract content, is strictly speaking not a poem, at least in the post-Poe, post-Romantic era understanding of the word.

What does that have to do with art, and Marcus Aurelius?

Well, I happened to stumble across the webpage of Belgian conceptual artist Wim Delvoye. Mr Delvoye is the creator of the Cloaca Machine, a work (or rather works) of art which emulate the human digestive system. You stuff food in one end, and get poo out the other. Said poo is then packaged, branded, and sold as nifty works of art in their own right.

So what is art? And what is poo?

From the diaries ~ whataboutbob


This is where you should imagine Hannibal Lecter in "The Silence of the Lambs" whispering in your ear.

Lecter: "First principles, Clarice. Read Marcus Aurelius. Of each particular thing, ask: What is it in itself? What is its nature?"

         

The point is that the Cloaca Machine, along with a lot of other modern conceptual art, also comes fairly close to being something which adds little to what could be explained in a sheet of instructions, or a page or two from a science text-book. It's all head, and no heart. Though you could claim there's guts, guts galore in fact.


Poo of another sort...
Thomas Kinkade "A Peaceful Retreat"

So what's the alternative to the poo? A lot of people would probably answer something like Thomas Kinkade. And who is this Thomas Kinkade, you might ask. Well, he's an American artist who's become very rich selling some rather bad paintings. And I do mean very rich.

He specialises in idyllic figurative paintings bathed in the warm glow of patriotism, faith and family values. You know, the stuff you find on maudlin postcards and prints hung on the walls of lavatories.


A devout Christian who calls himself the "Painter of Light," Kinkade trades heavily on his beliefs and says God has guided his brush -- and his life -- for the last 20 years.

"When I got saved, God became my art agent," he said in a 2004 video biography, genteel in tone and rich in the themes of faith and family values that have helped win him legions of fans, albeit few among art critics.

Aside from the "inspirational" themes being a none too shabby business strategy in a contemporary Untied States caught up in one of its regularly recurring religious fervours, the point is that he sells a mind-boggling number of very bad paintings. He's the sort of artist that makes the practitioners of high art, critics and academics shake their heads in saddened disbelief at the lack of taste (and breeding?) among the hoi polloi.


The Apollo Belvedere
But in a way Kinkade is a product of modern serious art's disconnect with mainstream audiences. It might be enlightening again to try to establish a first principle. Do people need art? For mere survival? Not in any meaningful sense of the word. But people, being equipped with big number-crunching brains, that more often than not go mostly idle, do have a need to surround themselves with aesthetically pleasing manifestations of order. The modern angst that the universe might in fact not, in the end, make any sense that we can fathom, with senses and faculties designed to do just that, actually makes for an even stronger yearning for such confirmations that there is an underlying order that can be discerned in, or imposed on, the universe.

Does the ordinary man and woman in the street have the capacity to embrace a better standard of art than Kinkade? Yes, they have in the past. Can (should is another matter entirely) a majority of them be "taught" to appreciate Klee or Pollock? Probably not. Having in a very real sense been abandoned by high art, and never having been taught the basics of artistic technique and the history of art, they are then left with such third rate stuff as Thomas Kinkade. Which only confirms their low-brow nature to the cognoscenti of the arts, and the futility, and down right danger, in trying to appeal to them.


Auguste Rodin, "Danaide", 1886
In my view this has worked as a feedback-loop, resulting in bad art at both ends of the spectrum. Kinkade's art is of course inferior in many obvious and even technical ways. But the flaws of modern high art are a bit more tricky to pin down. I'd venture that the heart of the matter is its over reliance on abstraction. And no, by that I don't primarily mean the use of abstraction in the work, but its need of an abstract exegesis to justify its nature as art.

Let me try to illustrate the point. We have few inklings as to what the works of art in say classical Greece meant to the the artists who made them, or the people they were made for. There are whole layers of religious and aesthetic thought that underpinned this art, which is lost to us. Things that were too self-evident to people of the time to write down, and which can not be dug up out of the ground by archaeologists of today along with the carved pieces of marble.

Yet, even shorn of its cultural context, no one at any time, or from any culture, however alien, would mistake them for anything other than art. That is not to say that we haven't surrounded these works with our own abstract notions of their meaning and significance. But their nature as art could never be in doubt. The same would in all probability be true of a work by Rodin, to bring it closer to our own age.


"Fountain" by Marcel Duchamp
Modern art, and in particular the now dominant conceptual art, relies heavily on an audience which is educated, not primarily in art, but the language of art, as the work's justification as being art in the first place is all about context and cultural connotations. Let's once again use Duchamp's iconic work "Fountain", which was recently voted the most important work of art in the twentieth century, and which is in fact a porcelain urinal Duchamp signed "R. Mutt" in 1917 and entered in an exhibition.

And a convincing case can be made, and has been, that "Fountain" does make an important statement on art and its allotted position in our society, and that it broadened the scope for art when it was in danger of calcifying into rote mannerism and, yes, kitsch.

But let's say the Pompidou Centre in Paris was abandoned, left to the ravages of time, and in the end was buried and forgotten. Then, millennia from now, future archaeologists from some culture wholly unconnected to our own, knowing little of the true nature of twentieth century European thought and art, were to dig up the site and come across the "Fountain". Would they recognise it as art? Or would they scratch their heads for a while before arriving at the conclusion that these were people who knew how to design rather handsome urinals?

In short, would the art of Duchamp, and his modern followers, stand the test of time, in the literal sense of the word? And if it could not, if the work is not "whole unto itself", but is incomplete without an abstract and esoteric exegesis, leaving the "true" work of art accessible only to the initiated few, then is it deserving of the name? And is it in fact much better than the sentimental Kinkade paintings those same archaeologists dug out of the lavatory?

Or as it says on the Cloaca poo-shopping page:

Buying Cloaca shit has never been easier!
Use your creditcard (Visa or Mastercard) through our secure online shopping system to obtain a fine specimen of contemporary art.

Indeed.


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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Thu Aug 17th, 2006 at 07:01:20 PM EST
"in the eye of the beholder". While we might wish to assign semantic and semiotic value to any art piece in its relevance to civilization, in the end its true value is ALWAYS a private dialogue between the mind of the onlooker and the mind of the creator - who is, like a hunted quarry, rarely present at the time. Only the traces and tracks of their movement are available.

The purpose of art is to evoke. Art is sensual - but all senses lead eventually to the way they are interelated in the mind. And the mind is cumulative, in the sense that it is acquiring new vocabulary all the time. The mind gets better at doing what it does, with use. The expanded vocabulary enables both greater understanding and more proliferation of ideas.

And here I differ with some experts. To me, the grammar and construction of this 'language' evolve at a far slower rate than that of vocabulary. Grammar is about Boolean discreteness - figure/ground ambiguity, or object, subject and action. Relatively simple stuff about how to identify and to understand the dynamics the components.

But the real discreteness is in the accepted meanings of the nouns and the verbs. And those accepted meanings are always in flux - because in the private dialogues between artist and onlooker, interpretations are sensory, not lexographic.

We all have our own private meanings and connotations which rarely coincide with those of the artist.

That gap is what art is about.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Aug 17th, 2006 at 07:30:47 PM EST
in the end its true value is ALWAYS a private dialogue between the mind of the onlooker and the mind of the creator

Or the true value is measured by auction houses, and talked up by collectors who use art as a private financial pump-and-dump scheme.

There's also an element of artier-than-thou posturing among the beautiful rich people.

Is any of this good art? Unfortunately it's now fashionable to treat art as if it's a branch of philosophy. Hence endless laboured art-student think pieces about how 'This piece questions and challenges...' written by people who don't know how to question or challenge anything.

Sensuality still lingers around the edges of art today like an unwelcome smell. But it's not really the done thing now, except perhaps if you can put it in ironic scare quotes or pretend it's related to something naughty and (the buzz word is...) transgressive.

I like the amorphoous unexplainability of art. I like the fact that some artists act like lunatics, and some actually are lunatics. I like the way that art confuses people, and that even the people who make it clearly don't really have a clue. I like the whimsy of watching someone raid morgues for body parts and turn them into posed photos. I like the fact that Kinkade is close to being arrested, and is acquiring an unsavoury business reputation with not a few of his agents and franchisees.

It's mad, is what it is. And not entirely in a bad way.

The muse is a bitch goddess. What can you do? The least you can say is that most of it is more entertaining than FreeCell.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Aug 17th, 2006 at 09:26:32 PM EST
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We all have our own private meanings and connotations which rarely coincide with those of the artist.

That gap is what art is about.

Uhm, pardon my french, but Christ that is fucking genius!!!  You only said in 2 little sentences everything I've been trying to say my whole life.  Well, not everything, but just about...  

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Thu Aug 17th, 2006 at 11:30:05 PM EST
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A few years ago I worked with a well-known young radical Finnish painter on a series of what we called 'Fully-Titled Art". We aimed to provoke, but the results were not what we expected.

The series began because we both laughed a great deal at the titles that artists gave to their works - with 'Untitled #7' as the sort of title that had us in fits of hysterics.

Titles are like photo captions, they tend to force or favour an interpretation. So a picture of police in riot gear, captioned 'Scum' will tend to be differently interpreted than the same photo captioned as 'The Last Bastion of Freedom'.

What we did with the fully titled series was that I would write a fairly long, specific, but bogus semiotic interpretation of each of his finished paintings. These 100-200 word 'titles' were affixed to the wall next to the paintings. They were large, and could be read from the same distance that paintings are usually viewed from. Our plan for development was to increase the size of the titles and reduce the size of the paintings - until in the end the 'titles' would take over from the  'art '. But we never got that far.

The Fully-Titled series was exposed at a large gallery in Helsinki. The reaction was unexpected: several people told us that, far from being seen as satire, these bogus explanations were understood as being bogus, but made clear that they were free to interpret the painting how they wished, and that they didn't neeed to struggle to find out what the artists 'meant'. Their own individually interpreted meaning was perfectly valid.

We didn't continue with the series because it seemed to have achieved its purpose.

BTW as an artist he is a superb draughtsman - meaning that every colour and every brush stroke is EXACTLY how he means them to be. The mind, eye and hand are perfectly coordinated in the cerebellum.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 03:22:48 AM EST
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you ar e a joy to read too, poemless.

someone on dkos has a quote from you as their sig, and it's beautiful.

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 04:00:45 AM EST
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Oh, gosh, well let the love fest begin, eh?  Why, I love your posts too!  You employ words in a way I've never really seen before...  I mean, speaking of art.  Very creative and funny and full of verve.  (Oh, and I like your posts too, M. Le Lurker, but you knew that...)

Neat about the sig.  There goes my allotted 15 minutes, I guess.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 12:18:00 PM EST
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sven, that is the most cogent, succinct precis of the most ineffably difficult subject i could imagine.

genius, man

i am so stealing this!

you may be taken but your insight is a given

optimissimo!

i love dylan's lyrics for their amazing projectability, they could be so many meanings, even inside one listener's head...

which ones rotate and resonate, which stick to the roof of the mind like aural peanut butter?

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 03:48:12 AM EST
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Art and communications are the only two subjects that I am qualified to write about. Everything else is just 'innocent bystander' stuff ;-)

I should really quit while I'm ahead and just leave you with my haiku-like insights to ponder. But no. I am going off to locate an example of one of my Fully Titled pieces, and a short rambling paper on my Matrix Collision Theory. I hope to post a diary about Art over the weekend.

In the meantime have a look at Bonk Business Inc.. wherein you will find the true Sven Triloqvist.

It's a mirror-site set up by some of our fans after we took the original site down, many years ago. It was among the first million websites in the world - maybe even the first 100k. The Finnish State Telecoms company - now called Sonera - used our work as a demo of something mysterious (at that time) called a mark-up language. This perhaps explains why it looks more like Lascaux than Linux.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 04:34:04 AM EST
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lol!

i have a great t-shirt from a hawaiian democrat big island cqndidate, with her surbane 'BONK' in great big green letters on black.

it rawks, though possibly not in england, where it merely enjoins the obvious..

though a reminder once in a while can be fun

of course no-one in hawaii had a clue the tshirt had a subversive subtext!!!

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 05:36:43 AM EST
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bring on the matrix collision theory!

from the bonk website....that girl....and the machine....

an early vintage heated power washer prototype?

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 05:43:50 AM EST
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of machinery are defunctioned.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 05:59:52 AM EST
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This has been too much of a "love fest" for Brit taste :-) So let's try a bit of criticism.

Sven: '"in the eye of the beholder". While we might wish to assign semantic and semiotic value to any art piece in its relevance to civilization, in the end its true value is ALWAYS a private dialogue between the mind of the onlooker and the mind of the creator - who is, like a hunted quarry, rarely present at the time. Only the traces and tracks of their movement are available.'

It's always dangerous and usually wrong to suggest that anything, let alone something as incredibly varied as what we call "art", has a single "true value". I'm not sure how any (cf "ALWAYS") "private dialogue" becomes a "true value". Doesn't it depend on the quality of the dialogue, not just its bare existence ? If somebody laughs all the way through Hamlet does the "private dialogue" going on really have "true value". Wouldn't we be justified in saying that the person doesn't understand the play, rather than praise them for the "true value" of their odd "private dialogue" ?

This somewhat solipsistic attitude is typical of our highly individualised western cultures, it encourages the ignorant: "Well, it's MY interpretation", as if that settles matters. Today many artists assure us that they wouldn't want to be tell us what to think (as if they could, we can always differ). It's also typical of the still dominant Romantic approach to art, with its emphasis on the lone genius, often misunderstood, who is expressing his/her personal feelings about whatever they choose to focus on. We need to remember that for much of the history of art, and still in some cultures, Art (itself a late construct and to do with economic interests, rising above the status of a "mere" craftsman) served a variety of functions, most of them social, political, theological. An individual's private interpretations were of little importance and could be signs of insanity or heresy. Even Michelangelo didn't just create private visions, they were usually commissioned works and even though he was given more freedom than most artists of the time, they generally fitted into the religious understanding of the members of that community and their value was communal and not about private dialogues.

"The purpose of art is to evoke."

Art doesn't have just one purpose and "evoke" is rather vague.

"Art is sensual"  

Maybe you mean sensory, cf.:

"sensual, sensuous, sensory (adjs.)

 The first two are often used interchangeably, with pejorative overtones stemming from the idea that intellect should control animal urges--the senses. Sensual seems to be the more uninhibited word, the more carnal; it evokes images of unbridled appetites for food, drink, or sex. But all three terms can suggest the primacy of the senses and the neglect of the spiritual and intellectual, although sensory lacks the overtones of sin and illicit pleasure that the other two convey. Milton tried to make sensuous involve the sense but not the sensory lusts that sensual suggested, but he could not make the distinction stick. And all efforts to make sensuous refer just to the senses, as sensory truly does, have been unsuccessful."

http://www.bartleby.com/68/87/5387.html

"but all senses lead eventually to the way they are interelated in the mind. And the mind is cumulative, in the sense that it is acquiring new vocabulary all the time. The mind gets better at doing what it does, with use. The expanded vocabulary enables both greater understanding and more proliferation of ideas."

Well yes, but this is cultural, social activity, not a matter of private dialogues.

"We all have our own private meanings and connotations which rarely coincide with those of the artist."  

Which suggests artists are often wasting their time, those who have something they wish to communicate.

We might have our private meanings, but historically there has been a high degree of connection between the artist's meanings and those of  his/her audience. The puzzlement people experience about art today, is not typical of the reception of art in most earlier cultures, and it has to do with art becoming part of the market system, rather than being sponsored by the Church or governments.

"That gap is what art is about."

 Why give such value to a gap ? Art is not just about struggles to understand, it has often been about giving powerful new form to shared beliefs and values, e.g. most religious art, a large part of the history of art. When the Pope first saw Michelangelo's Last judgment, he is supposed to have asked forgiveness for his sins. He didn't have any real "gap", rather the work was immediately clear to him, but in a new, powerful form, and part of that power came from the fact that it was immediately understood.

Arguably it is regrettable that we have lost the easy basic understanding between artist and audience typical of earlier periods. But, while "fine art" has become an esoteric practice for an elite audience, the general public turns to work which is relatively easily understood, beautiful and informative, e.g. the popular exhibitions of photography of the earth from the air and of life in the oceans cf http;//now-in-paris.blogspot.com.  They also turn to TV and cinema, which include much bad work, as art did in earlier periods, but which also include great works which speak to large audiences, e.g. many of the TV dramas of Dennis Potter, and films, e.g.:

Time Out's Readers' Top 100 Films (part 1, ranked)

(1)  The Godfather (1972), d. Francis Ford Coppola, US

Disregarding the ambitious but botched third installment, this is not only one of the cinema's great gangster sagas but a gloriously-detailed - if romanticized - historical look at the ethics of American business, family values and food consumption (all that pasta!) For once, Part II was superior to the original, though the whole thing - a model of Hollywood craftsmanship - was instrumental in igniting several careers: De Niro, Pacino, Duvall, Caan. Brando's finest hour, the mannerisms and mouth full of cottonwool not withstanding.

(2)  Casablanca (1942), Michael Curtiz, US

Made in the year when the outcome of the war hung precariously in the balance, this was, and is, popular cinema par excellence - achingly nostalgic, clear cut, ruthlessly well plotted - and a film which has triumphantly withstood the test of time. Bogart, the laconic club owner, and Bergman the girl he left in Paris, and for whom he still feels tenderness and more...Who can forget Rains, Henreid, Lorre, Greenstreet, Veidt, Dooley Wilson, Marcel Dalio and SZ Sakall; and who will not rise (in their mind at least) for the singing of 'The Marseillaise'?

(3)  Citizen Kane (1941), d. Orson Welles, US

(4) Blade Runner (1982), d. Ridley Scott, US 2019

(5) Vertigo (1958), d. Alfred Hitchcock, US

(6)  Apocalypse Now (1979), d. Francis Ford Coppola, US

(7)  Some Like It Hot (1959), d. Billy Wilder, US

(8)  Taxi Driver (1976), d. Martin Scorsese, US

(9)  2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), d. Stanley Kubrick, US

(10)  It's A Wonderful Life (1946), d. Frank Capra, US

For other such lists see http://www.filmsite.org/films.html

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by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Aug 20th, 2006 at 07:06:25 PM EST
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Wow.

Alexander, you write exactly the thing I have long thought but have lacked the skill to make into words.

I guess I am not a poet.

You are.

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by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Thu Aug 17th, 2006 at 08:25:28 PM EST
Now you made me blush!

Thank you very much!

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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Thu Aug 17th, 2006 at 08:28:43 PM EST
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Or in the words Tegnér, the greatest Swedish poet ever to have lived.

And poetry's not as a bow in the sky,
Or volative perfume of flowers.
The beauty you make is not dust that shall die,
The age but quicken its powers.
Eternal is Beauty, its metal sublime
We ardently seek in the waters of time.

And for Sven, as I guess you read Swedish.

Och dikten är icke som blommornas doft,
Som färgade bågen i skyar.
Det sköna, du bildar, är mera än stoft,
Och åldern dess anlet förnyar.
Det sköna är evigt: Med fiken håg
Vi fiska dess guldsand ur tidens våg.

If you follow the links you'll see that the first verse in the poem has strangely current political relevance.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Thu Aug 17th, 2006 at 08:34:35 PM EST
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Aha, I see you are Norwegian (or at least live in Norway) so I'll guess you'll be able to decipher the Swedish too.

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by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Thu Aug 17th, 2006 at 08:41:33 PM EST
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Yes, I'm a sort of pan-European mongrel mix ;) But I do live in Norway... and do my shopping mainly in Sweden...

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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Thu Aug 17th, 2006 at 08:47:10 PM EST
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is Finnglish - and while I can follow Swedish written, and when spoken by Finlands-Svensk, I am not sure I can appreciate the subtlety of poetry.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 02:33:09 PM EST
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elegant, wry diary, alezander

distinguished by fine commentary

thanks alot

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 04:03:05 AM EST
What will they think of next? (I'm almost afraid to ask...)

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by whataboutbob on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 11:30:50 AM EST
LOL!

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by Gjermund E Jansen (gjans1@hotmail.com) on Fri Aug 18th, 2006 at 11:38:20 AM EST
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Great topic. There have been a number of very good poems inspired by poo (by Amons and others).  Here is one of my favorites:

The Excrement Poem
by Maxine Kumin

It is done by us all, as God disposes, from
the least cast of worm to what must have been
in the case of the brontosaur, say, spoor
of considerable heft, something awesome.

We eat, we evacuate, survivors that we are.
I think these things each morning with shovel
and rake, drawing the risen brown buns
toward me, fresh from the horse oven, as it were,

or culling the alfalfa-green ones, expelled
in a state of ooze, through the sawdust bed
to take a serviceable form, as putty does,
so as to lift out entire from the stall.

And wheeling to it, storming up the slope,
I think of the angle of repose the manure
pile assumes, how sparrows come to pick
the redelivered grain, how inky-cap

coprinus mushrooms spring up in a downpour.
I think of what drops from us and must then
be moved to make way for the next and the next.
However much we stain the world, spatter

it with our leavings, make stenches, defile
the great formal oceans with what leaks down,
trundling off today's last barrowful,
I honor shit for saying: We go on.


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by DowneastDem (david.vickrey (at) post.harvard.edu) on Sat Aug 19th, 2006 at 09:36:32 AM EST
         Arsehole

It is shy as a gathered eyelet
neatly worked in shrinking violet
it is the dilating iris, tucked
away, a tightening throb when fucked

It is a soiled and puckered hem,
the golden treasury's privy purse.
With all the colours of a bruise,
it is the fleck of blood in albumen

I dreamed your body was an instrument
and this was the worn mouthpiece
to which my breathing lips were bent.

Each note pleaded to love a little longer,
longer, as though it was dying of hunger
I fed that famished mouth my ambergris


                       - Craig Raine



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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Sat Aug 19th, 2006 at 02:28:06 PM EST
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I stopped paying attention to the "Art World" when that asshole Julian Schnabel (sp?) pasted broken crockery to canvas, painting the lot white, calling it art and selling it for hundreds of thousands....then taking the leap from being a "successful artist" to becoming a film director.  What a bunch of cross mastabatory incestous creeps, all taking dollars from one pocket to deposit it in the other.  

You know, on one hand I understand what you say about Kinkcade, but I respect him and his "art" far more than I do the "art" of the folks like Schnabel.  At least it is not hidden who Kinkcade is, Schanbel is just a phony product of too much incest.

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by Keone Michaels on Sun Aug 20th, 2006 at 02:00:14 PM EST
Ahh yes, Julian Schnabel... I tagged along with some friends to see his debut-feature, "Basquiat".

What a great cast. What a terrible, overrated artist. What a wretched film. It actually pulled at my toenails so bad, I was close to starting a bar-fight afterwards, just to get the vitriol out of my system...

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by Alexander G Rubio (alexander.rubio@gmail.com) on Sun Aug 20th, 2006 at 07:05:34 PM EST
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