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Open Thread - Saturday Night

by Fran Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 01:59:47 PM EST

Where is everyone - having fun?


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The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 02:17:25 PM EST
Someone's got to do the cooking.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 02:28:05 PM EST

HE MEADLE ESAST WAR IS TOEN THISPROBLEM AND NOW WE KNOW  YOU ARE RESPONSABLESSSS OF OUR (((((((((((((((((aMERICA))))))))))) DEATH AND LATINAMERICAN AAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ARE GUILTY OF THE SAME
YOU CAROLINA DE MONACIOOO YOU ARE DEAD BUT WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOU IT SESELF BECAUSE YOU ARE ALLL AGREEE IN TGHET EUROPE AND LATINAMERICA
YES i BORNED HE BUT SUDACA i AM NOT AND IANM BLONDE ALBIMA AND BEAUTIFUL YOU NOT SEEEEE YOURSELF IN A  AAA  MOTHE MIRRORRRR MOTHER FUCKERS
YOUTHEONE OF THE BEST SO ALLL OF YOU
WAR
:)
polly carter buasshhhh reagannn an ALLL TGHE PRESIDENT IN RHTHE UNITEDS TATES OF THE AMERICANS
YOU CANT DECIDE OVER MIGRATION IN THE USA AND THE TERRORISTMMMSS ATTACK WAS TO HELLP ME TO LIVE AND IS FOTR ME NOT FOR CAROLINA DE MONGOLICA
PULLY buahSHHHHHH

Not sure what they are trying to sell me, though

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 03:13:28 PM EST

I am loved n the usa you not you are hated in the usa so the latinanmericans because of me you hated me and i hate you euorope and latinamerica is thet clear??????
polly bush

It's clear, I think.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 03:14:38 PM EST
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Adding that to the fan mail file? ;)

With the way your e-mail is posted all over the net, I'm surprised if you don't get about a thousand of those a day.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 03:54:42 PM EST
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Teacher: when I say "I am beautiful", what tense is it?
Kid: the past, Madam.

Teacher: in the sentence "the thief stole apples", where's the subject?
Kid: in jail.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 03:19:40 PM EST
This one from the Argentinean comic strip Mafalda:

Teacher: Future perfect of "to love"?
Susanita: Children.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 03:59:51 PM EST
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The kid was obviously getting a good Catholic education. :)

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
by p------- on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 04:18:34 PM EST
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Another one:

Teacher: Today we're going to study the pentagon [drawing one on the board]
Mafalda: And tomorrow the Kremlin? [teacher breaks the chalk]
Mafalda: I mean... for balance.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 04:20:23 PM EST
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I was walking in Marienplatz in Munich today.  Everyone is wearing their Bavarian Sunday best for the arrival of Oktoberfest - Lederhosen for the men, Dirndls for the ladies.

In front of me, there was a British lady talking very loudly with her husband, and she was wearing a Dirndl.

A busker with long hair and beard that hangs around Marienplatz passed her, and he was wearing a Dirndl (he does it for the money)

She was totally flumoxed.  Stopped in her tracks and then she went on and on about how weird he was.

Finally, my friend tapped her on the shoulder and said to her:  "Weird?  You think he's weird?  At least he's Bavarian!"

That shut her up.

by manon (m@gmail.com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 04:27:30 PM EST
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That will teach her ;-)

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 04:29:27 PM EST
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Why is Oktoberfest celebrated in September?  

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
by p------- on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 04:34:59 PM EST
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from wikipedia:

On account of the duration of the festival and the nice weather, the Oktoberfest has begun in September since 1872. It always opens on a Saturday and its duration varies depending on the days of the week each year (Approximately 16 days). The festival has traditionally ended on the first Sunday of October, but if this day is the 1st or 2nd day of October, the festival will go on until the October 3rd (German Unity Day).

by manon (m@gmail.com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 04:48:37 PM EST
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Doing the bills, yay.  It's frightening how much I pay for a phone I don't use.  I should probably get one of those bundled deals, but I'm not savy enough to know when I'm going to be had.  I just know I'm being had now...

Going out for crepes later, though. In true American fashion I will quell my worries about money by spending more of it!  (This place puts coq au vin inside a crepe, which is probably a crime in France, but it is de-lish!)

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 03:52:18 PM EST
Started the crepier training three days ago. I'm still laughing at the fact that I'm cooking crepes in NY on Good old Krampouz plates. Just like back at home in Bretagne.

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine
by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 11:09:09 PM EST
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Aha! So, Strand with a View on Ar Mor, you're from Brittany?

(What are Krampouz plates?)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 03:59:48 AM EST
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Yes, indeed. Maybe more sentimentally than matter-of-factly, since i'm from Nantes.

Krampouz is just the brand of the plates, but the company is from bretagne too... from Quimper apparently.

Will I get to make crepes from NY Etribbers?

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 08:21:44 AM EST
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Back from a hiking trip. Fortunately, we were spared of rain from the outliers of Cyclone Maike until the evening, so nice warm autumn weather, but high humidity meant we didn't see very far from the top of the mountain. I'm totally exhausted.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:07:16 PM EST
From Finance  Professor:


Another international finance story centers on transfer pricing. Transfer pricing is the price that firms charge themselves for internally transfering product within the firm. This gets particularly sticky when intellectual property is what is being transfered. While firms are "supposed to" charge a fair "arms length price", the temptation is always there to use transfer pricing to recognize gains in nations with a lower tax rate. Not surprisingly, the IRS is not a big fan of this (It is reported that nearly $10 Billion of pending court cases are based on transfer pricing). Yesterday the IRS and GlaxoSmithKline settled their transfer pricing case for $3.4 billion.

From the last link:


WASHINGTON - British drug maker GlaxoSmithKline PLC said Monday it agreed to settle its $3.4 billion "transfer pricing" tax dispute with the Internal Revenue Service.

The settlement covers the disputed taxes of Glaxo Wellcome -- which merged in 2000 with SmithKline Beecham -- from 1989 to 2000, and taxes of the merged company up to and including 2005. The case was due to go to trial in February.

The total cost to the company will be $3.1 billion after deducting state and local taxes and interest. As part of the settlement, GlaxoSmithKline will also abandon a claim to seek a refund of $1.8 billion in overpaid income taxes. [...]

by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:15:53 PM EST
A must read from the big picture:


[...] "If you really want to understand what makes the U.S. economy tick these days, don't go to Silicon Valley, Wall Street, or Washington. Just take a short trip to your local hospital. Park where you don't block the ambulances, and watch the unending flow of 0639_bw_covdcdoctors, nurses, technicians, and support personnel. You'll have a front-row seat at the health-care economy.

Without it the nation's labor market would be in a deep coma. Since 2001, 1.7 million new jobs have been added in the health-care sector, which includes related industries such as pharmaceuticals and health insurance. Meanwhile, the number of private-sector jobs outside of health care is no higher than it was five years ago. [...]

by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:21:02 PM EST
We have a serious nursing shortage.  But our billing departments are well staffed with a fleet of verbally abusive morons.  

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
by p------- on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:30:10 PM EST
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Nontradable service jobs.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:40:12 PM EST
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of NAFTA allows for "professionals" to cross the border freely, so in many Texas near the border its common for American nurses to be replaced by much less pricy Mexican nurses who cross the border everyday.  In other news, the Congress is trying to pass a plan to a plan that would set up private temporary agencies that are empowered to offer work authorization, called "Ellis Island" centers.

So all the workers who enter this way would be legally obliged to remain employed with the agency, or be deported.  Obviously this creates the potential for abuse, but this is all being run under the radar.

Of course no one seems to understand that the only way that NAFTA is going to work in the long term is to adopt social chapters in the way that the European Union has.  And I'm not sure whether the greatest obstacle to that is Mexican elites intent on stopping independent labor unions and the other elements of civil society, or US xenopohobia.  A crazy world we live in.

The genius behind the the "Ellis Island" plan is my Congressman, and the reason I haven't been here hardly at all for the last 2 months has been that I've been concentrating on helping the gentleman running against this jerk, and of course grad school.  Hopefully, around December things will slow down, and I'll have the chance to do some writing on Spain that I've been thinking about, specifically about the lack of reconciliation in the Transicion, and the impact that still has with the Law of Memory.

And I'll give my consent to any government that does not deny a man a living wage-Billy Bragg

by ManfromMiddletown (manfrommiddletown at lycos dot com) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 12:54:36 AM EST
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Anyone here ever see the Decalogue?  It's a television series that was presented in Poland some years ago by the Polish director Krzistof Kieslowski.  I think it has the highest score I have seen in the IMDB site, 9.3/10.
by manon (m@gmail.com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:28:39 PM EST
It also ran in Italy. I saw some episodes.

I personally liked his trilogy of films: Red, White and Blue.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 06:31:12 PM EST
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It ran a couple of times, I think, on Arte, so in France and Germany at least. I saw some. Each episode is based on one of the Ten Commandments. Kieslowski was greatly appreciated in France, for his films too (a lot of what he did were French productions or co-productions).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:09:41 AM EST
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In a programmers discussion of concurrency, some physics fun:


Ben: [...]
Things in the real-world (effectively) share state all the bloody time . The example that popped into my head is a traffic light. One light, and the drivers reference it. [...]


joe:
No no no - Ben is wrong
If I drive at a red traffic light
at 7*10^4 Km/sec the red light will
appear green due to the doppler shift.

So some people will see red other green, depending upon the speed.

So there is no shared state,
eveybody has a different idea and they cannot agree.

I didn't check doppler shift values :).

by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:29:36 PM EST
I had never heard that one before, it's brilliant.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:41:04 PM EST
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kcurie would love it.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:26:26 AM EST
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The relative speed given would shift a deep red of a wavelength of 670 nm to a green of 530 nm head-on, so the calculation seems right. At that speed, almost 10 kilometres per second, the driver's eyes and visual cortex wouldn't even have time to 'see' the green shifting back to yellow and then red on the last few dozen metres where the difference of the direction of relative motion deviates noticeably from head-on, yet the light is still in the driver's field of vision. On the other hand, due to the hot plasma created by the shock front at that hypersonic speed, the driver won't see anything of the lamp.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 08:08:48 AM EST
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Do you mean the driver will get a speeding ticket if he invokes this computation as an excuse for ignoring the traffic light?

:)

by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 08:17:10 AM EST
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El Pais: Ségolène Royal alaba el "modelo español" de igualdad (16-09-2006)El Pais: Ségolène Royal praises the "spanish model" of equality (16-09-2006)
Los socialistas celebran la segunda jornada de su Conferencia Política en MadridThe Socialist celebrate the second day of their Political Conference in Madrid
La segunda jornada de la Conferencia Política del PSOE ha arrancado esta mañana con los debates de las cuatro comisiones de trabajo --Nuevos Retos, Nuevas Respuestas, Nuevos Derechos y Nuevas Ciudades--, en las que se analizan las propuestas recogidas en el documento marco. Es la segunda jornada de una Conferencia con la que el PSOE pretende "renovar" sus propuestas e ideas de cara a las próximas citas electorales. Ya por la tarde, la vicepresidenta primera del Gobierno, María Teresa Fernández de la Vega, y la dirigente del Partido Socialista francés Ségolène Royal han intervenido en una mesa redonda sobre políticas de igualdad, el acto principal de esta segunda jornada. En este foro, moderado por Angels Barceló, ha participado también la ex ministra Carmen Alborch.The second day of the Political Conference of the PSOE started this morning with debates by the four working committees—New Challenges, New Responsibilities, New Rights and New Cities—, in which the proposals gathered in the framework document are analysed. This is the second day of a Conference in which the PSOE intends to "renew" its proposals and ideas to face the upcoming election dates. In the afternoon, the First Deputy Prime Minister, María Teresa Fernández de la Vega, and the french Socialist Party cadre Ségolène Royal have taken part in a round table on equality policies, the main event of this second day. The former minister Carmen Alborch has also taken part in this forum, moderated by [journalist] Angels Barceló.
Royal, que aspira a la candidatura de su partido para las elecciones presidenciales de 2007, ha alabado las políticas de igualdad puestas en marcha por el Ejecutivo español y ha anunciado que incorporará a sus propuestas una Ley de Violencia de Género similar a la española. En Francia, una de cada diez mujeres sufre maltrato. Por su parte, Fernández de la Vega le ha mostrado todo su apoyo en su carrera al Eliseo y ha subrayado su "indignación" cuando se le interponen "objeciones" con los argumentos de "la misoginia". Royal, que se ha reunido después con José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, ha destacado que hasta la llegada del PSOE al Gobierno sólo existía el modelo escandinavo de igualdad, pero que ahora hay un "modelo español" cuyas políticas en esta materia "han sacudido mucho" en otros países europeos y en el seno de otros partidos socialistas.Royal, who hopes to be her party's candidate for the 2007 presidential election, has praised the equality policies set in motion by the Spanish executive and had announced that she will add to her proposals a Gender Violence Law similar to the Spanish one. In France, one in 10 women is a victim of abuse. On her part, Fernández de la Vega has shown her full support for her race to the Élysée and has  stressed her "rage" when she has to face "objections" argued from "misoginy". Royal, who later met José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, has amphasised that until the PSOE's arrival to government there was only the Scandinavian model of equality, but that now there is a "Spanish model" whose policies on the matter have "much shaken" other European countries and other socialist parties.


Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:39:18 PM EST
Will Royal now be called "Zapatist" by all and sundry, I wonder..?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:29:46 AM EST
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Reportedly she said she considered it a compliment to be nicknamed "Zapatera" in Spain.

On the other hand, I was just on the phone with my mother and she said Royal refused to give media interviews [in particular, to be on a morning talk radio program moderated by Angels Barcelo, who is mentioned in the article] because she's not being treated with the required deference even though she's not even officially the PS candidate.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 05:36:13 AM EST
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I am doing last minute preparations. Tomorrow is election day and we will see if the wiki-structure of the Pirate Party manages to get ballots to all voting stations (it is kind of stupid that we do not have the possibility of leaving them there more then an hour in advance). According to our homepage we have 91.18% of the population covered, and probably more then that with local back-up and emergency plans. So I will be out doing my share.

If someone does some election coverage on the Swedish election tomorrow I will probably stop by close to midnight and comment (there is local, regional and national on the same day).

I predict that I either will be giddy or that I will not be giddy. Anyway, it will be good to get this election over and done with.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!

by A swedish kind of death on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:42:05 PM EST
The party is responsible for taking its own ballots to the polling stations?

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 05:46:35 PM EST
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Unless you got more than 1% in the last election, the answer is yes. If you did get more then 1% you get ballots printed and delivered to the polling stations. A very real hindrance for new parties, though in the next election we will have ours printed and delivered for sure.

A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
by A swedish kind of death on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 06:28:13 PM EST
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I am translating a parliamentary debate from last wednesday about the March 11 conspiracy theories, which many people think is the real trigger of the "spat" between El Pais and El Mundo mentioned in Friday's breakfast.

It's taking forever... Will probably end up being my longest diary so far. Hopefully it will be worth it.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 at 06:47:25 PM EST
I didn't realize there were conspiracy theories about 3/11
by manon (m@gmail.com) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 04:18:28 AM EST
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Just peruse the articles on the wikipedia, where there is a sizeable troll population.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Sep 17th, 2006 at 05:33:01 AM EST
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