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Blair (and Brown) speaking

by Gary J Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:51:19 AM EST

Just on BBC News 24

Brown just making a statement to TV

It is for the Prime Minister to make a decision. I will support him. Tony Blair and I have worked together for more than 20 years.

From the diaries, with some form edits. Use as as Blair open thread. - Jerome


Supportive statement.

Nick Robinson (political editor)

Just a formula. What Brown had to say. Might last until end of today or a few days.

People around Blair, including Mrs Blair, want someone else to take over.

Prime Minister to speak in the next hour.

Background on BBC website.

"Tony Blair will announce later he will be stepping down as prime minister within the next 12 months, Downing Street has confirmed. He will make a statement on his future between 1400 BST and 1500 BST. He is not expected to give a precise departure date but Commons leader Jack Straw has indicated the prime minister plans to hand over power in May. Chancellor Gordon Brown said he has told Mr Blair it "is for him to make the decision" when he goes".
Update
Blair apologises - not our finest hour. Preferred to do in his own way, not possible. Last conference as party leader. Not right to give specific date now. Would come a time to set it out. Country comes first. Can't treat public as irrelevant bystanders. Get on with the countries business.
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People around Blair, including Mrs Blair, want someone else to take over.
Huh? Quick look at google news...

Daily Express [I know, I know] Cherie won't let Blair quit over feud with Brown

CHERIE Blair is the driving force behind her husband's refusal to hand power to Gordon Brown, it emerged yesterday.

She has repeatedly urged him not to give in to the clamour to step down in favour of Mr Brown, say friends.

Mrs Blair, who is believed to despise the Chancellor, has played a key role in stiffening the Prime Minister's resolve in the face of a growing Labour revolt.



Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:13:05 AM EST
Yes, thanks for documenting this.

Nick Robinson emphasised the bit about Mrs Blair, in the way he spoke to camera, so I thought that this was based on more than journalistic speculation.

by Gary J on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:29:54 AM EST
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So when you say "someone else" you mean "someone other than Brown", not "someone other than Blair"? It's all confusing enough without the help of ambiguous locutions.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:33:01 AM EST
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Sorry for any confusion. Mrs Blair is said to want a new leader other than Gordon Brown.

The problem for those who want a non-Brown succession is that Blair has spent most of his Premiership looking for a heir who could defeat Brown. None of the possibilities have been able to establish themselves as a plausible contender.

by Gary J on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:44:41 AM EST
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After his 1996 electoral defeat, Felipe Gonzalez opened the PSOE congress with a speech in which he surprised everyone by resigning as General Secretary. The congress agenda changed and they spent the following 2-3 days getting a new leader in place so he could close the Congress.

What would happen if Blair resigned at the Conference? Would Labour still face a 6-week leadership contest?

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:20:24 AM EST
Bo doubt it would change the agenda, a bit.

The electoral college arrangement requires a membership ballot and some unions also have the members vote, so it could not be sorted out in less than a few weeks.

by Gary J on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:35:10 AM EST
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Not that Felipe's gambit was successful: Almunia called a primary because he didn't feel legitimised, lost the primary to Borrell who encouraged Almunia to stay on as General Secretary, there was too much scheming in the two-headed PSOE and Borrell ended up resigning, then 3M voters stayed at home in 2000, so Almunia resigned triggering an extraordinary Congress and Zapatero won a 4-way contest at the Congress as a dark-horse candidate. All very dramatic.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:41:07 AM EST
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Chancellor Gordon Brown said he has told Mr Blair it "is for him to make the decision" when he goes".

Optimistically, this could mean there's been a deal made behind the scenes and Brown is toning things down to stop war breaking out.

Less optimistically, he's surrendered.

If Cherie is calling the shots (WTF?) it's more likely to be the latter.

It's worth mentioning some history here. There are rumours that the original deal, made before 1997, was that Toneee would hand over to Gordon.

This was - allegedly - reinforced a few years ago.

If Tonee has gone back on his side of the deal, he has screwed his own Chancellor.

Which is impressive, in a rather depressing way.

If Cherie is involved this makes the Catholic Coup theory more plausible. Cherie is a Catholic, and she won't be happy if someone who isn't a Catholic - Reid is, Gordo manifestly isn't - takes over from hubby.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:43:53 AM EST
If Cherie is calling the shots (WTF?)

I heard from Helen that Cherie has been calling Tonee's shots since before he joined Labour.

I though in Britain "a Catholic Coup" meant the Gunpowder Plot. Is New Labour going to redefine that one, too?

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 09:49:02 AM EST
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Don't you remember this exchange a couple of weeks ago?
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 10:01:59 AM EST
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Channel 4 news are reporting a rumour that Blair and Brown have done a deal, so Blair will resign as party leader next February and leave office as Prime Minister in May.

This arrangement, if it exists, would enable Blair to be Prime Minister for ten years whilst bringing the timetable further forward from the one the Sun reported (was it yesterday or today). Things continue to move fast.

by Gary J on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 02:42:00 PM EST


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