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Gore Blimey!

by ChrisCook
Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:09:21 AM EST

Well, this

Gore and Peace

is hot off the Norwegian Press.

What does this do for Gore's chances then, people?

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Gore Blimey! | 68 comments (68 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 4)

I must have been the last person on earth who didn't think Gore was going to win (how many times are they going to pass over Matti Ahtisaari anyway?), but okay. Glad I was wrong.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:13:04 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (none / 1)

I didn't think he was going to win, either.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:19:38 AM EST
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I was curious (4.00 / 3)

It had been hyped so much in advance that one could only wonder if they'd want to do thepredictable thing.

I guess the stakes are pretty high on climate change and it's no longer time to be playing.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:31:09 AM EST
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Re: I was curious (4.00 / 2)

It shows that the con media have to deal with Gore's triumph, and had to prepare to it. The occasion did piss them off a little, but they are still controlling appearances though.

Nobel prize for Gore... OKAY! Though his presidential run in 2008 would be worth another Nobel (and something better). Whether actual presidency is a viable perspective or not, real political issues are worth to be fought for. Gore is the only politician who would do it, and he should give that a shot.

by das monde on Sun Oct 14th, 2007 at 12:30:11 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 4)

BBC NEWS | Europe | Gore and UN panel win Nobel prize

Mr Gore, 59, was vice-president under Bill Clinton and has since devoted his efforts to environmental campaigning.
The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change brings together the world's top climate scientists.
The Nobel committee said it wanted to help the world focus on the threat it faced from climate change.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:13:34 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 10)

I am glad the UN climat panel was included. Puts the focus more on the topic and a little less on Gore.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:15:28 AM EST
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Don't go say that on dKos (4.00 / 3)

The frenzy is going to be impressive, I expect. In the middle of the night, all the recent diaries and almost all the reclist are about Gore, just a few minutes after the announcement:

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:29:19 AM EST
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Re: Don't go say that on dKos (4.00 / 5)

Now that's what I call a kosgasm!

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:47:03 AM EST
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Re: Don't go say that on dKos (none / 1)

It's been that way for a few days already, before the Nobel announcement.

A 'centrist' is someone who's neither on the left, nor on the left.

by nicta (nico＠altiva․fr) on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 01:14:08 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 7)

Yes but most people like a face to focus on; 3,000 faceless scientists don't make a popular news story :-)The combination gives a face, and a famous name, plus solid institutional backing. Also it will annoy Bush and co. - despite their supposed change of mind on he issue.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:31:06 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 2)

You mean it was a real "salomonic" decision?

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:33:31 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 2)

I was a goos decition.. ntohing to do with Solomon :) je je jej

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:53:50 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 8)

Regarding his presidential prospects, I have the feeling a loss would have been more detrimental than a win would have been beneficial. The pundits are going to trash the Nobel peace prize anyway ("Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter and Kofi Annan received it! It's a joke of a prize!").
On the other hand, given the build-up and the hype for the past few months, announcing a run on the heels of a disappointing and high-profile loss wouldn't have worked...

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:24:50 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 3)

He would have looked desperate for publicity if he'd announced after losing, yes.

But it's a moot point now. He won!! He won!! Happy happy happy happy happy....

Congrats to the IPCC too!

by lychee on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:31:52 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 9)

The pundits are going to trash the Nobel peace prize anyway ("Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter and Kofi Annan received it! It's a joke of a prize!").

And it's an effete Euroweenie thing. Why, if he was a real man, he would have won a prize for war.

(And I bet some republican sock puppet nominated Bush for the sterling work he's being doing in the Middle East...)

by IdiotSavant on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:39:58 AM EST
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Nuremberg Award (4.00 / 6)

You mean the Nuremberg Award, as Zwoof calls it on dKos?

Bush "edged out Myanmar General Than Shwe for top honors" to win this year's award.

by Magnifico on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:51:05 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 2)

Didn't Henry Kissinger get one too? Sigh.

You'll soon hear kooks in the U.S. accusing the Nobel Prize Committee of meddling in U.S. politics.

by Quentin on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 06:41:47 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 4)

It's a global crisis and it seems that a segment of the global elite is trying to make sure they get a sane US President.

If gore had won in 2000 he wouldn't have done half of what needed done, but if he became president in 2008 he can be counted to be nothing short of revolutionary.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 01:25:21 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 3)

1973, the peace prize was awarded jointly to Henry the K and Le Doc Tho, of (then North) Vietnam. Tho declined, supposedly because of security considerations. I always thought it was because the old warrior had too much class to want to be associated with K The War Criminal.

by Mnemosyne on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 08:40:07 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (none / 1)

If Gore does enter the race it is going to be the most vicious and divisive of campaigns. But I expect Gore to pull no punches either. And if he wins, don't expect the right-wing press to give him quarter even for the first 100 days.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 01:23:13 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (none / 1)

Do you mean vicious in the Democratic primaries or in the general election if he gets the nomination?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 04:12:52 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (none / 1)

I don't know about the Primary, though you can expect a lot of character assassination in the press and attacks on his Climate Change platform as soon as he declares. But clearly the general election will make the Swiftboating of Kerry look like a white lie.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:09:59 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (none / 1)

It's too late for him to primary efficiently: (a) he can't manage MSM crisis he doesn't own; and (b) he can't obtain plurality of Democratic delegates, doubtless already beholden in each state to "frontrunners". He is unlikely to run independent party; that's just not his M.O. Thus he would further fragment the national Democractic "caucus" of partisans and appartchiks. To mitigate these risks and enter the market, he will need to burn unsecured cash-in-hand, possibly his own, at a greater rate than any POTUS candidate.

re: General Election
Should he enter after primary caucus, Spring '08, his campaign strategy would be directed to back-channel acquisition of national party apparatus, delegates, and extra-legal fund raisers. Doubtless he could raise record level of ad money from a very small set of fundraisers to manufacture consent within the electorate which is highly fragmented in approvals of unitary theory, messiahianism, 2000 POTUS benefit, and oh global warming. Democratic "frontrunners" are unlikely to concede the popular primary results. xBecause Gore is friendly to "free trade" and finance capital markets, his cost of securitizing his subaltern agenda will require substantial "compromise" of public testimony to assure extant congressional business. MSM is likely to dilute market penetration of Gore paid advertising.

GE Results: another contested electoral college vs. popular vote. SCOTUS, having established principle (precedent, authority) of franchise arbitration, would decide the victor from among the candidates' putative returns.

He's done with politics. He's gone commercial. Kerry shut the window. Put a fork in it. Deal with the assholes you have, not the ones you wish for. Better yet, act every day in your own political, economic interests: Don't play the game.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 07:33:24 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 2)

Thanks for your hopeful message. I'm gonna kill myself right after I have a good lunch.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 05:43:27 AM EST
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While you were out ... (none / 1)

Back from 3rd grade soccer -- Gooooooo Chili Peppers! -- and an extremely satisfying shop for fangy dentures. Hallowe'en is a coming, loudly sing Yoo Hoo ...

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 01:51:11 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 2)

he can't obtain plurality of Democratic delegates, doubtless already beholden in each state to "frontrunners".

How can you say this when the first primaries are still months away?

He's done with politics. He's gone commercial. Kerry shut the window. Put a fork in it. Deal with the assholes you have, not the ones you wish for. Better yet, act every day in your own political, economic interests: Don't play the game.

Well said.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 05:52:31 AM EST
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How? (4.00 / 2)

Disclaimer: I may be insane.

But on my side of the world, I believe today is 13 October, three months (actually less than 90 days) before the first in a series of rapid-fire POTUS primaries, of which 37 states conclude by 19 February.

My intuition whispers to me, even if Gore is a "frontrunner" in a 4-way race, the majority of delegates will express their unrequited love for his long-lost candidacy in a ballot for another. After all, American common wisdom rewards the common wisdom of Iowa, N Hampshire, S Carolina, (poor, dear Florida), NY, and California.

That's a bucket-full o' media money Gore must commit, at least.

I did say, didn't I, to enter now would be inefficient?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 02:24:07 PM EST
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Aftenposten: Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize (4.00 / 5)

Here's Aftenposten's story, Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize, for the Norwegian-challenged, like me.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 on Friday to former US Vice President Al Gore and the United Nations' climate panel, citing the importance of battling global warming.
Ole D Mjøs, leader of the committee that's appointed by the Norwegian Parliament to award the Peace Prize, said the prize was to be awarded in two equal parts to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and Gore.
Mjøs said the Norwegian Nobel Committee wanted to further strengthen the focus on the importance of battling climate change by awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Gore and the IPCC, which is led by Rajendra Pachauri...
The Norwegian Nobel Committee is made up of five persons, mostly former politicians, who reflect the elected make-up of the Norwegian Parliament. Current members include Mjøs, a professor and former head of the University in Tromsø; Berge Ragnar Furre, a historian and theology professor at the University of Oslo who represented the Socialist Left party in parliament from 1973-77; Sissel Rønbeck, a member of parliament from 1977-93 from the Labour Party; Inger-Marie Ytterhorn, political adviser to the Progress Party and a member of parliament from 1989-93; and Kaci Kullmann Five, a former trade minister and member of parliament for the Conservatives from 1981-97.

by Magnifico on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:31:24 AM EST

The message here (4.00 / 8)

is that huge bits of the world are still clamoring for US power - soft power to be sure, the ability to lead on global issues, but still, US power.

Do we need to be led by the US to save the planet?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:32:39 AM EST

Yes, the U.S. must lead (4.00 / 5)

Do we need to be led by the US to save the planet?

Unfortunately, yes. Both the United States and China, as the two largest emitters of greenhouse gases, must lead by drastically cutting their own emissions.

Until the U.S. and China do so, other countries will be able to point to them as an excuse to do nothing themselves.

So unfortunately for everyone in the world, the U.S. simply can't be ignored and the rest of the world solve the problem without America.

by Magnifico on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:36:39 AM EST
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Re: Yes, the U.S. must lead (4.00 / 2)

One might say that it is merely a quantitative leadership. Not to be neglected for sure...

by Torres on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:49:05 AM EST
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Re: Yes, the U.S. must lead (4.00 / 6)

That's not leadership to me. The leader should set the good example, however, in this point the US is not showing the way, it is following others.

But you are right the US and China need to drastically cut back the greenhouse gases.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:54:35 AM EST
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Re: Yes, the U.S. must lead (4.00 / 7)

the US is not showing the way, it is following others.

Uh, no, sadly it's not even doing that.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:57:55 AM EST
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Gore and criteria of "peace" (none / 0)

What peace has Gore brought to global military, financial, or intellectual property conflict?
-- Who are the adversarial states who have benefited from his arbitration and advice?
-- What charitable relief has Gore executed or funded for regional or global distribution?
-- How has Gore's advocacy reduced GHG emissions, in absolute units?
-- How has Gore or the IPCC funded humanitarian aid in regions adversely affected by climate change or war?
-- How was Gore instrumental to draft and ratifications of the UNFCCC treaties and its subsequent execution (Kyoto)?

How has IPCC enforced UNFCC treaties and Gore directed Rajendra Pachauri and Robert Watson in managing IPCC activities and distributing intelligence to state agents?

What US policy conflicts has Gore resolved and authorized? How has the US government implemented these policies?

What publication has not featured a Gore memoir or Gore media?

What is the current estimated market value and size of green product marketing and R&D, worldwide?

What is the significance of (measurable) grassroots "awareness" to formulation and governance of (measurable) resource plans to reduce GHG emissions?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 03:13:13 PM EST
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Re: Gore and criteria of "peace" (4.00 / 3)

The Prize was awarded

"for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change"

Efforts. Disseminate greater knowledge. Lay the foundations.

Maybe you're right. Screw being informed. Just give everyone money and we'll have peace. Is that it?

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 04:03:22 PM EST
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Re: Gore and criteria of "peace" (none / 1)

There concludes satisfaction of criteria for awarding a Nobel prize for Literature.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 06:52:28 PM EST
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Re: Gore and criteria of "peace" (4.00 / 4)

The rationale seems to be that dealing with global warming sanely - which isn't going to happen, but it's a nice idea - would prevent an almost endless round of resource and survival wars in the rest of the century.

And it's the panel's way of saying 'Hey - actually an issue. Can we start dealing with this please?'

Gore may well look like Clinton in drag, but I think if he were genuinely another lap dog or political narcissist he would have been out of the gate far earlier.

But in fact there's no reason to believe that he's anything other than completely committed and passionate on this one issue.

Since he's unlikely to be worse on worker rights than any of the others (except - possibly - Edwards) it makes sense to support to him.

If he runs. And personally, I think he probably won't.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 02:28:28 PM EST
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Re: Gore and criteria of "peace" (4.00 / 2)

But in fact there's no reason to believe that he's anything other than completely committed and passionate on this one issue.

It's difficult to imagine a better way for him to affect the way we respond to climate change than by his being president of the US. They should take away his nobel if he doesn't run. ;)

by Fete des fous on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 06:13:24 PM EST
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Re: Gore and criteria of "peace" (4.00 / 3)

No, not really. One of the criteria for awarding a Nobel Prize in Literature are that the Nobel Laureate has to have had a noticeable effect on the world of literature.

The reason for awarding Al Gore and the IPCC the peace prize is to give them recognition for their efforts to make the world more aware of the climate changes just as Aung San Suu Kyi was awarded the peace prize in her tireless battle for democracy and human rights in Burma.

It is also meant to encourage the laureates to continue their important work. It is a fact that climate changes are often closely linked to the outbreak of war, be it war over water resources or scant energy resources.

Bitsofnews.com Giving you the latest bits.

by Gjermund E Jansen (gjans1@hotmail.com) on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 03:00:50 PM EST
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Re: Gore and criteria of "peace" (none / 1)

by Nomad on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 04:51:16 PM EST
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Re: The message here (none / 1)

well we wouldn't whinge about it if we had made a more sincere attempt ourselves! (i know your success in this, j)

who cares who leads?

why does there have to be a leader/follower model at all?

time's past for such petty distinctions, we all need to walk in the right direction, some will be ahead sometimes, then slip behind...it's natural.

mostly people who want to be 'in front' more than their share are the ones to treat most sceptically.

this 'great leader' malarkey is what gets us into authoritarian heirarchies every time; power corrupts, so let's keep it spread around, so it doesn't stagnate and go rancid..

one world, rotating leadership, one goal of sustainable social justice...

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 07:32:38 AM EST
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Re: The message here (4.00 / 3)

We first need the US to get out of the way of progress.

If they got on the bandwagon it would be great.

If they got to work pulling the train it would be even better.

But is Gore gets inaugurated expect an inauguration address along the lines of JFK's "don't ask what America can do for you but what you can do for America", and a new "Apollo project" on climate change.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 01:33:28 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 9)

Well, I am pleased about this, and not surprised he got it. The big question remains, does Al feel like wading back into the cesspool of American politics to run, when he's making lots of money and getting a lot of accolades. However, as president, he could really do something about changing things...and I'm hoping this will ultimately inspire him. But the clock is ticking, Al, make your announcement now and RUN!!

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia

by whataboutbob on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:33:25 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 10)

As wonderful as winning the Nobel is for Gore and he deserves a tremendous amount of kudos for focusing the US public's attention to climate change; he isnt going to run because at the end of the day-he is as mediocre as Hillary when it comes to social justice.

The lack of a social justice agenda in his speeches doesnt give me a tremendous amount of faith in his ability to rid the US of the virus it is experiencing-greed. Without the principles which also demand social justice; effective solutions to climate change are hopeless.

What Gore doesnt want to face is without tremendous sacrifices on the part of capitalism-there are no solutions to climate change or social justice for the US.

The idea that all we need to do is tweak here,tweak there and presto we have solved the problem is folly.

by An American in London on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:33:50 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 3)

Right now, he's the best we got!

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 06:07:40 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 3)

That's why I'm "Gore/Edwards" in this matter, since Edwards is speaking loudly about the social agenda. Of course, they'd never live through a first term, and that's a big sacrifice to make, but isn't that what heroes sometimes do?

Karen in Austin

Thence comes our true nobility by grace, It was not willed us with our rank and place. Chaucer

by Wife of Bath (priceluda at grandecom dot net) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 09:40:00 AM EST
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Social Justice (4.00 / 2)

The presentation of "Connie Mae" during the NYU speech last month was just wrong. He speaks as if the need for such an agency, ostensibly for new construction, were independent of the residential housing glut and illiquidity which exists, imminent deflationary ForEx conditions, and conflicts of interest among underwriters building this new debt structure on consumers' backs.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 03:37:04 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 4)

A good time to listen to the "Al Gore lives on my street" song!

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 05:38:55 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (none / 1)

I've never heard that before. It's great.

I need to remember to read the New Yorker for more than just Sy Hersh and George Packer stories....

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 06:02:27 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 4)

Congratulations to Gore.
Here people do not know much about him or his deeds, just remember how he unsuccessfully had run for presidency in pair with neocon Joseph Lieberman and recently the press was highlighting how 5 or 4 times Norway refused to give prize to Mahatma Gandhi.
Considering recent controversies in particular with Vidya Naipaul tirade against his colleagues we should not give much importance to any award giving ceremonies.
Though I am glad that Gore won on environmental issue.
Recently Anglo-American press (like Times of London) speculated about chances of Bush-Blair duo, any takers?

by FarEasterner (avdavydov@yandex.ru) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 06:11:43 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 8)

I think Bush's and Blair's theories on creative destruction are certainly well worth acknowledging. Though the ceremony I had in mind wouldn't take place in Oslo, but in the Hague.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 06:15:58 AM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 3)

such great news...

yes i think he can run assured of a win, if he stays away from holy joe this time...

he should play presidential politics in a radical way, i think, avoiding the usual glitter circus and sticking to a stripped down, simple pitch: planet above all other considerations!

i'd like edwards or obama as running mate, what do you all think?

he certainly has his job cut out for him when elected...

he shouldn't waste too much juice on the hoopla, trust the people to want to have the honour of a nobel-winning president to patch up the terrible image abroad generated by cheney/bush fiasco.

rout the republicans!

finally!

bless the nobel, this could be the vindication of its power to inspire, and the antidote to the appalling lapse of giving it to kissinger..

happy day

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 07:40:41 AM EST

Al Sez: (4.00 / 4)

From TMP

Statement of Al Gore on Winning Nobel Prize
I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. This award is even more meaningful because I have the honor of sharing it with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change--the world's pre-eminent scientific body devoted to improving our understanding of the climate crisis--a group whose members have worked tirelessly and selflessly for many years. We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest opportunity to lift global consciousness to a higher level.
My wife, Tipper, and I will donate 100 percent of the proceeds of the award to the Alliance for Climate Protection, a bipartisan non-profit organization that is devoted to changing public opinion in the U.S. and around the world about the urgency of solving the climate crisis.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 08:47:42 AM EST

Higher Things (4.00 / 3)

David Roberts has an interesting analysis on HuffPo.

Money quote:

No, it would be a disaster for Gore to enter the race at this point -- not because he might lose, but because he has transcended U.S. partisan politics. He has become a figure of global stature, one of a tiny fraternity of private individuals in the world capable of driving historical change from outside the confines of any institution.

Very true. However, continuing:

What many Americans don't realize is that the rest of the world is not distracted by the serial, lurid distractions that compose our political dialogue.

We have serial, lurid distractions of our own! But fortunately, they do not pertain to Al Gore.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 09:59:22 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 4)

I woke up to the news of this (as did many of my neighbors, I'm sure, given my crazed jumping up and down and screaming upon seeing the news) and Putin giving Condi Rice the cold shoulder. Great way to wake up!

Does it mean Gore will run? Who knows. Only he knows. With my luck, he won't. But I have more hope today than I have had in long time.

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 10:48:38 AM EST

More Gore (4.00 / 2)

"Pretending that you already know the answer when you don't is not actually very helpful." ~Migeru.

by poemless on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 11:10:16 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 3)

Congratulations, Mr. President!

/run, Al, run!

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 11:27:56 AM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (none / 1)

Someone should photoshop the poster of Run, Lola, Run. Is there a picture of Gore jogging?

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 01:29:28 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 3)

Something like this?

Unfortunately google image search did not yield anything in decent quality.

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by A swedish kind of death on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 02:46:25 PM EST
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I found the picture in better quality but it was at viewimages, an apparently incompetent company that does not allow either linking directly to images nor linking to the page the image contains. It would appear they do not want trafic for their webbpage.

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by A swedish kind of death on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 02:53:14 PM EST
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Yep, I googled that as well.

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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 03:30:20 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 2)

Sorry, but that's the best I can do with Paint.

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by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 08:36:31 PM EST
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Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 3)

When I first heard about it I thought it was a joke. But there you have Al got the Nobel Peace Prize.

There's something really abhorrent about all this.

Do Pigs fly after all?

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 12:43:23 PM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (4.00 / 4)

Gore's chances would be great if he actually got into the race, but I'm still not going to bet on that. At one time, I thought he would pull a Nixon and jump in, but no more. I hope he will, but I just don't see it.

That said, if he jumped in, and if he won the nomination, the election would be over immediately. Gore would be an unstoppable force, and the Republicans would be utterly destroyed in both the presidential and congressional races, to say nothing of the state and local races -- races whose importance is too often minimized, given its critical contribution to the future of the country.

(So, please, run, Al. Knock out Baroness Hillary, and then tear the Republicans' fucking faces off.)

Nontheless, congrats to Gore. I, for one, am very proud of what he's accomplished in the last year. One guy forced a good chunk of the country -- still not enough, but a good chunk -- to wake up.

And ditto to all who've noted the IPCC deserving of its share (and undoubtedly more). It was a good call, combining the two.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 01:14:30 PM EST

Re: Gore Blimey! (none / 1)

This is huge ... if Gore runs. But, I tend to think Gore won't run; he didn't really need the nobel to become the leading candidate. Anyway, Gore's record on getting passed the rhetoric isn't very good. Sorry to be a party pooper but I fear that a republican lite agenda is already in the cards. I hope to be very wrong.

by Fete des fous on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 01:56:47 PM EST

Apple honors Al ! (none / 1)

Apple Computer honors Al Gore on its front page where they usually sell Ipod and other marvellous stuff.

http://www.apple.com/

by fredouil (fredouil@gmailgmailgmail.com) on Fri Oct 12th, 2007 at 08:14:03 PM EST

Re: Apple honors Al ! (4.00 / 2)

He's on Apple's board of directors.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 12:42:50 AM EST
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Re: Apple honors Al ! (4.00 / 3)

That wouldn't be the same Apple which builds almost everything in China and flies it all over the world for delivery, would it?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Oct 13th, 2007 at 02:31:16 PM EST
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