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by Colman
Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 01:49:15 PM EST

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US-IRAQ: Ill-Equipped Soldiers Opt for "Search and Avoid"
WATERTOWN, New York, Oct 24 (IPS) - Iraq war veterans now stationed at a base here say that morale among U.S. soldiers in the country is so poor, many are simply parking their Humvees and pretending to be on patrol, a practice dubbed "search and avoid" missions.
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Millard told IPS "search and avoid" missions continue today across Iraq.

"One of my buddies is in Baghdad right now and we email all the time," he explained, "He just told me that nearly each day they pull into a parking lot, drink soda, and shoot at the cans.

They pay Iraqi kids to bring them things and spread the word that they are not doing anything and to please just leave them alone."

...Ah ...soldiers who wonna fight anymore...interesting.

The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)

by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 02:05:32 PM EST
spread the word that they are not doing anything and to please just leave them alone

Very sensible. I hope the tactic spreads.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 02:14:28 PM EST
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Unfortunately these Virgin Soldiers are the ones most likely to end up as barbecued lumps dangling from bridges...poor sods.
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 03:21:05 PM EST
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Part 9,994 of Francis Fukuyama's "Please will someone take me seriously again" tour-of-contrition. Keep going son, only a billion more installments to go.

This time on the roots of anti-americanism. I'm not gonna quote any of his self-pitying whine, rather a comment which more or less sums up what I think (although a little more politely)

Ah, good ole Fukuyama. How's it been going since you signed on to the Project for a New American Century? Not good? Such a shame that your murderous experiment in neoconservatism has turned out so badly, although you "jumped ship" some time ago, right? What was it you said? Its failure is a sign of "the danger of good intentions carried to extremes"? "Good intentions"? Now that's an odd thing to say, from someone who put their name to the idea of using race-specific bioweapons as a political tool.

But yes, we're pissed off at the likes of yourself and Bush because we're anti-American. It has nothing to do with the fact you're a bunch of fucking war criminals.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 02:18:51 PM EST
flandersnews.be - Flemings producing less rubbish
Flanders is top of the class when it comes to sorting rubbish for recycling and compost.

More than 70% of household waste in Flanders is either recycled or turned into compost.

Of the 530 kg of waste produced by every man woman and child in our region, just 150kg is sent to the incinerator.

This is 100kg per person less than in ten years ago.

Over 500 kg/year.....we buy it, we transport it and we dump it at a price(waste-taxes)....sure we are rich people.

The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)

by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 02:44:35 PM EST

Citigroup Says Senate Fuel Economy Standards Attainable, Profitable for Automakers

Global Banking Giant's Findings Rebuts Auto Industry's Doom-and-gloom on 35 MPG Standard

The report can be found by clicking HERE (pdf).

WASHINGTON (October 25, 2007) - Global banking giant Citigroup released a report this week that concludes the fuel economy targets included in the energy bill currently being considered in Congress are both achievable and can result in profits for automakers. Citigroup's conclusions regarding the financial impact of the Senate CAFE provisions that require that the combined fleet of cars and trucks achieve 35 miles per gallon in 2020 are quite the opposite from the doom and gloom scenarios being put forth by auto industry lobbyists.

"When you have the world's number one bank, which has financial ties to many major automakers, saying fuel economy standards are a good economic play, it drives a stake through the heart of the auto industry's scare tactics," said Chairman Edward J. Markey of the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming.

The report, "CAFE and the U.S. Auto Industry; A Growing Auto Investor Issue, 2012-2020", was created in partnership with Ceres and the Investor Network on Climate Risk, along with industry experts at the Planning Edge, University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute, and NRDC. It evaluated potential changes to the U.S. Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) program.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 02:46:33 PM EST
the thing I find hard to understand is that these technologies are already available in europe now. So why wait till 2020 ? Especially as the price of oil isn't going in any direction except up.

The USA, more than any economy in the world, is dreadfully exposed to the price of oil. All measures that reduce their vulnerability should be treated as mandatory emergencies.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 02:53:00 PM EST
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Anyone seen Sven around lately?

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 02:53:50 PM EST
No -- it's been ages!  I know he said he'd be scarce for awhile, but it's gone too far!  

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 03:08:42 PM EST
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I've taken a watching brief for the moment. Found I couldn't combine RW work overload with a fundamental lightness of being. Working offline with other ETers on 'big things' - results in due course. I'll be back later in November.

But I never lost the habit of reading ET over morning coffee ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:50:43 PM EST
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Good to see you haven't been kidknapped by trolls.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:54:05 PM EST
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It's touch and go - I have a workshop tomorrow pm about Finnish elves for a big animation project. Send out the reindeer if I don't report back...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:57:57 PM EST
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you know they will only rescue you if your wearing your red christmas suit. ;-)

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:00:32 PM EST
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No - all it takes is to cover yourself with salt. They love that.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:04:16 PM EST
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taken from the famous guidebook "How to get licked by reindeer"  

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:09:42 PM EST
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Is that Nordic cow tipping?  Nice to hear your bytes, Sven.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:21:10 PM EST
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Now I can't remember what I wanted to ask you about. Darn.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:59:30 PM EST
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so glad you're still around sven...missed you, and especially your fundamental lightness of being!!

the only kinda fundamentalism i'll sign up for-

There are no blank spots on the map any more, anywhere on earth. You want a blank spot on the map, you gotta leave the map behind. Jon Krakauer

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 03:37:16 AM EST
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AP via Seattle PI; Che Guevara hair lock to be auctioned

DALLAS - Anyone can get a "Che" T-shirt for a few bucks, but an actual relic from the revolutionary figure is likely to cost a bit more at an auction Thursday.

Bidding starts at $100,000 for a 3-inch lock of hair from Ernesto "Che" Guevara, the Marxist whose iconic picture has become a popular, even sometimes fashionable commodity since he was killed in a Bolivian jungle 40 years ago this month.

Heritage Auction Galleries is putting the hair, allegedly snipped off Guevara before burial, up for sale despite alleged threats made against the company by Guevara admirers since the auction was announced in September.

The Dallas-based auction house said it will have extra security on hand for the bidding after monitoring "leftist bloggers" upset that the company is profiting from Guevara's death.

That's just wrong on so many levels...

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes

by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 03:07:27 PM EST
hmmm

"They divided my clothes among themselves and threw dice for my robe." So that is what they did.

sigh

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 07:34:44 PM EST
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in the would never had dreamt of making such shit up dept.


Former FEMA Director and Director of Corporate Strategy for Cotton Companies Michael D. Brown Available for Interviews Regarding California Wild Fires

NEW YORK, Oct. 23 PRNewswire-USNewswire -- Michael D. Brown, Former FEMA Director and Current Director of Cotton Companies, one of the leading disaster preparedness and restoration organizations in the nation, is available for comment regarding the wild fires that are devastating Southern California.

Currently, the brush fires are affecting hundreds of local businesses and have forced more than 500,000 people out of their homes. Of these 500,000 people, an estimated 10,000 of them have taken shelter at the local NFL stadium, Qualcomm, vaguely reminiscent of circumstances of Hurricane Katrina evacuees two years ago.

"The agency has learned some hard lessons regarding the handling of mass evacuations especially in regard to the bureaucratic red tape that is involved in such a process," said Mr. Brown. "This is a tragic time for many of the people of California, and Cotton Companies is working to ensure that normalcy is restored and that businesses and organizations are back up and running as soon as possible."

Cotton has already deployed a team to San Diego to prepare recovery efforts and has a Community Assessment Team in full force.

Mr. Brown can speak to the turmoil being caused by the California wild fires as well as to some of the new processes in disaster relief efforts that will help to restore California communities. He can offer advice to residents and businesses on proper relief and recovery efforts and provide suggestions for future disaster preparedness.

Since its inception in 1996, Cotton Companies, the nation's leading provider of disaster recovery services, has been coming to the aid of businesses and communities coast to coast with its ability to react, take charge, mobilize and execute on the spot crisis management. Cotton has responded to such high-alert disasters as Hurricane Katrina and the tragedy of 9/11 in New York City.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 03:49:41 PM EST
the sheer chutzpah of these people is sometimes breathtaking.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:30:24 PM EST
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Well, if we are to keep a straight face while Tony Blair is appointed ME peace emissary [and possibly EU president <slaps forehead>], the least that can be said is that Brown's new-found trough indicates that selection in the revolving-door process is a) consistent and b) without borders.

Fuck ups without borders -- FUWB, foob?

by Loefing on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:49:40 PM EST
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Why ? Who kept a straight face ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:05:59 PM EST
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if we are to keep a straight face

hypothetical

by Loefing on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:14:26 PM EST
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Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:06:43 PM EST
Energy and Oil  - Reuters.com
U.S. crude settled up $3.36 to $90.46 a barrel after striking a record $90.60. The rise added to Wednesday's gain of nearly $2. London Brent rose $3.11 to $87.48 a barrel.


The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:24:41 PM EST

Shell says `speculation' inflating oil prices

Royal Dutch Shell, Europe's biggest oil company, warned that the oil price was being driven by "speculation" and "has a political premium in it rather than actually some of the fundamental drivers".

The comments by Peter Voser, chief financial officer, came after the group reported that third-quarter earnings, on a current cost of supply basis, fell 8 per cent to $6.39bn as a result of lower refining margins and sales volumes.

This is a "don't raise your expectations too much" exercise for the financial analysts. But it's still interesting to see that refining margins have crashed lately, resulting in gas prices that are not so high when compared to other times when oil was cheaper.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:14:07 PM EST
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Well, I'd be amazed if hedge funds weren't massively into oil and other commodities now that credit's gone pear shaped.

All that money has to go somewhere...

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:48:03 PM EST
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Chevron CTO Says Peak Oil Won't Be a Disaster

At a Dow Jones conference in Redwood City, Calif., Don Paul discussed whether alternatives such as biofuels can fill in the gap as oil demand grows but production stalls.

So-called "peak oil" is coming, but it doesn't have to be a disaster, Chevron Chief Technology Officer Don Paul said Wednesday.

The concept of peak oil is that the oil industry is reaching its maximum production level while the demand for oil keeps growing.

At the Dow Jones VentureWire Alternative Energy Innovations conference in Redwood City, Calif., Paul said many people think the industry will hit this maximum level by 2020.

"The question is will there be peak oil? Yes," said Paul, who also is a Chevron vice president. "But will it be the disaster [some people] expect? I don't think it has to be. We have other ways of making fuel."

The remaining fuel could come from biofuels, oil from tar sands and coal, he said, adding that each of these potential sources has its challenges.

There's no way in hell that either biofuels, tar sands or coal can provide more than a few percent points of our current demand.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 06:08:49 PM EST
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Just had a great visit with Migeru and he is growing younger and wiser by the minute.  He looks even healthier than when I saw him, 4 and 6 months ago.

I'm pumped.  Go, Migeru!

_Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena._

by metavision on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:31:39 PM EST
Take him down Oldenberg, that'll stop that nonsense.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 04:33:39 PM EST
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Hi,

I am sorry I didn't inform you about my  traveling to Africa for a program called Empowering Youth to Fight Racism,  HIV/AIDS, Poverty and Lack of Education, the program is taking place in  three major countries in Africa which are Ghana, South Africa and Nigeria . It as been a very sad and bad moment for me, the present condition  that I found myself is very hard for me to explain.I am really  stranded in Nigeria because I forgot my little bag in the Taxi where my money,  passport, documents and other valuable things were
kept on my way to  the Hotel am staying, I am facing a hard time here because I have no  money on me. I am now owning a hotel bill of $600 and they wanted me to pay the bill soon else they will have to seize my bag. I need this help from you urgently to help me  back home, I need you to help me with the hotel bill and i will also  need $400 to feed myself and help myself back home so please can you help me  with a sum of $1000 to sortout my problems here? I need this help so much  and on time because i am in a terrible and tight situation here. I  don't even have money to feed myself for a day which means i had been  starving so please understand how urgent i needed your help.

I am sending you this e-mail from the city of lagos and I only have 30 min, I will appreciate what so ever you can afford to send me for now  and I promise to pay back your money as soon as i return home, you need to  transfer the money through Western Union, please
email me back so that i can email you one of the Hotel Management name that you will send the western union to.

Thanks

by PeWi on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:26:10 PM EST
funny thing is, the person sending this, could have actually been a person  getting in a situation where he would need this kind of help...
by PeWi on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:28:19 PM EST
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Funny thing is that it is your signature at the bottom, PeWi, so one lends it more credence than if it came through email. You had me worried for a couple of lines.

(No, not on my way to Western Union, though ;))

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 10:50:38 AM EST
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I really only wanted to report on the latest scam/spam email that makes its round, glad you had the same initial hmm, as i had :-)
by PeWi on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 12:04:01 PM EST
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A niece's baby boy was born today.... in Chile!  So far I was the only one in the family producing a foreign-born child.  Global families...

_Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena._
by metavision on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 05:41:07 PM EST
I had not heard of this story until just now.

As he neared the end of a posting in Gaza, the BBC's Alan Johnston was seized at gunpoint by militants. Here he tells the full story of his 114 days as a hostage.

Through all this I gradually came to know my guards.

One of them, a man in his mid-20s called Khamees, with a dark, quite handsome face, would be with me almost every day. Right through to the kidnap's frightening climax.

Like many young men who I had met in Gaza, Khamees was the son of a family that had either fled or been driven from their home in what is now Israel.

He had been raised in the poverty of one of Gaza's intensely crowded cities, and been drawn to the militant groups that had fought the occupying Israeli army.

Khamees had matured into a battle-hardened urban guerrilla.

He walked with a limp and had a slightly misshapen torso, the legacy of a wound inflicted by the Israelis. But they were not his only enemy.

He had trouble too with both of Gaza's main factions, Hamas and Fatah.

He was a wanted man, and he almost never left the succession of flats that were my prisons.

He lived confined to the shadows - almost literally, in the second of our hideouts - where the shutters on the windows were kept closed and I did not see the sun for nearly three months.

Alan Johnston: My kidnap ordeal



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 06:32:06 PM EST
Of course, at first glance, there was not much to take heart from in my situation.

But the fact was that I had not been killed, and I was not being beaten around.

I was being fed reasonably, and I decided that my conditions could have been much, much worse.

Whatever else it was, my Gazan incarceration was not what Iraqi prisoners had been forced to endure at Abu Ghraib jail.

It was not the Russian Gulag, and it certainly was not the Nazi death camps.

I felt that I would not be able to pick up a book again about the Holocaust without feeling a sense of shame, if I were somehow to break down mentally under the very, very, very much easier circumstances of my captivity.

I thought too that, unfortunately, every day around the world, people are being told that they have cancer, and that they only have a year or two to live. But the vast majority of them find the strength to face the end of their lives with dignity and courage.

I, on the other hand, was just waiting for my life to begin again, and I told myself that it would be shameful if I could not conduct myself with some grace in the face of my much lesser challenge.

And in its search for inspiration, my mind took me down what may sound to you like some rather strange paths.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 06:35:41 PM EST
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Chris Jordan's latest exhibit

words fail me

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 07:28:21 PM EST
...the Nobel prize winner, who has now left the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory in disgrace, after racist remarks he made during a visit to the UK were published in The Times. This comes from a reader of TalkingPointsMemo:

I went to a talk of his at Berkeley while I was a molecular biology grad student there, and he spoke for an hour in a public setting making completely fabricated scientific claims as to links between skin color, obesity, happiness and sex drive. With some misogyny thrown in (...). The whole thing was written up by the SF Chronicle at the time.



You're clearly a dangerous pinko commie pragmatist.
by Vagulus on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 08:00:39 PM EST
Witnesses were flabbergasted when the 72-year-old discoverer of the double helix suggested there was a biochemical link between exposure to sunlight and sexual urges. ``That's why you have Latin lovers,'' Watson said. ``You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English patient.''

[...]

Then he launched into this whole thing about the sun and sexual drive,'' added Berkeley graduate student Jill Fuss. She said Watson showed slides of women in bikinis and contrasted them to veiled Muslim women, to suggest that controlling exposure to sun may suppress sexual desire and vice versa

The SF Chronicle piece is a riot. I am embarrassed to say I hadn't laughed this hard in quite some time.

by Fete des fous on Thu Oct 25th, 2007 at 08:32:41 PM EST
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