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Where was that taken?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 02:31:00 PM EST
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on the south coast of Jersey

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 04:29:34 PM EST
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Re: PHOTOS AS USUAL (4.00 / 8)

My street, taken just outside my front door.

You have a normal feeling for a moment, then it passes. --More--

by tzt (tztmail at gmail dot com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 08:57:32 AM EST
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I like your street!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 02:30:40 PM EST
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Heh (none / 1)

Welcome to Holland!

by Nomad on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 01:21:09 PM EST
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Re: PHOTOS AS USUAL (4.00 / 8)

Lately I have been experimenting with B&W toning, a technique that is common in traditional darkroom settings for producing fine art photos. In the digital world one takes a plain B&W photo (or converts from color to B&W) and the overlays it with one or more color tones, usually black plus one to three additional colors (duotones, tritones, quadtones, etc). The tones are applied along a gradient that corresponds to the tonal qualities of the photograph so the outcome depends not only upon the combination of colors chosen but the actual tonal qualities of the photo. Let me know what you think.

Pottery painter - Vietnam

Painter 2 - At the time these photos were taken these people were being paid something like a dollar a day. I think they were pleased to be photographed.

Weaving Silk - Vietnam

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:19:35 AM EST
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I like the first and second tones best but the vases look too bright, maybe try giving the vase a bit of selective darkening?

I think the bottom picture tones would work better if the woman wasn't wearing obviously modern clothes ie the bright bold logo on the jumper jars with the ambience of the tone.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 02:30:16 PM EST
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Thanks for the critiques IW. Two things I did before adding colored tones was to convert the original digitalized color slides to black and white and modify the white and black levels a bit in Photoshop camera raw. I increased exposure until the highlights (represented by the vases) in both photos 1 & 2. indicated clipping and then used recovery to bring back the detail. It may be that I did clip some anyway or some brightness may have been added by toning. The first vase in particular now seems very bright. Before toning the background in photo 1 was quite a bit darker, but the toning added detail and gave it a soft, almost grainy appearance.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:15:05 PM EST
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Re: PHOTOS AS USUAL (none / 1)

Ah now I can see how the vases are a bit bright. Other than that though, it has a really nice effect, I like the graininess.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 02:46:49 AM EST
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Re: PHOTOS AS USUAL (4.00 / 10)

Autumn:

Defiance

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 01:31:15 PM EST
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Re: PHOTOS AS USUAL (4.00 / 9)

I have a very bad dial up connection today and I see nothing well. Here's a recent photo of estHer thatI like. I hope it posts well.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 03:39:45 PM EST
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Re: PHOTOS AS USUAL (none / 1)

It's lovely, she looks quite serene.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 03:58:16 PM EST
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Re: PHOTOS AS USUAL (none / 1)

If it is not clear, this photo was taken either by estHer or one of her friends; not by me.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 12:24:09 AM EST
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wedding day (4.00 / 3)

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 01:06:33 AM EST
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Re: wedding day (4.00 / 2)

Nice daughter you have, melo. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 03:57:13 AM EST
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hehe (4.00 / 5)

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 01:15:32 AM EST
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I must post at least one photo of mine (4.00 / 2)

in the photo blog. I found this on my D.C. computer. It was taken last March in the Rockville, Md. public library.
A small girl decides to be free!

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 11:34:11 AM EST
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Re: I must post at least one photo of mine (none / 0)

Awww, how amusing!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 12:00:40 PM EST
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WHAT IS IT? (none / 1)

"WHAT IS IT?"

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 02:02:12 AM EST

Re: WHAT IS IT? (4.00 / 2)

If you haven't seen one before, you may not guess, but plenty of you ought to know what this is...

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 02:05:36 AM EST
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Has nobody taken a guess at this? Do you want to know what it is? It's a close up of...

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 02:43:48 AM EST
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Looks like metal crystal structure, very, very close up.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 05:55:19 AM EST
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Close up of a solar panel.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 10:53:25 AM EST
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Re: WHAT IS IT? (4.00 / 2)

D'oh... I looked at that photo for ten minutes, trying to guess what's up with those parallel lines, but didn't thought of this.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:47:21 PM EST
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Full marks for effort then!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 05:38:45 PM EST
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not so much what more where is it (4.00 / 5)

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 08:04:36 AM EST
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Re: not so much what more where is it (none / 0)

No Guesses?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:08:12 PM EST
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Re: not so much what more where is it (none / 0)

When I first saw it I thought it was Paris, on the old island, but it isn't is it? Is it Morocco?

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:38:46 PM EST
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Re: not so much what more where is it (none / 0)

Some Copt church in Egypt?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:39:33 PM EST
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Re: not so much what more where is it (none / 1)

Yes it's the coptic cathedral in Aswan

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:48:01 PM EST
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Re: Where is it? (4.00 / 3)

Where? Hint: Birthplace of Pan American World Airways.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:23:21 AM EST
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Re: Where is it? (none / 0)

How about somewhere in south Florida?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 10:01:26 AM EST
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Re: Where is it? (none / 0)

Close enough. Key West.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 08:59:46 PM EST
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Re: Where and what is it? (4.00 / 6)

Where and what?

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:25:57 AM EST
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Re: Where and what is it? (none / 0)

It looks like the grounds of a mission.

by lychee on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 05:49:33 PM EST
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Re: Where and what is it? (none / 0)

Good guess. Well, I'm not exactly sure where it is. The photo is from about 1974 and the general location is Florence, It. We were on one of those tours that covers a lot of territory in a short time so the guides were attempting to show us the extensive art scene. My impression is that this house or mission was where a Renaissance painter "happened" to "scribble" a masterpiece or two on the walls. I will continue to look for the exact place details. I reviewed 1600 photos of Florence on line without finding it. Unfortunately, most were photos of the Ponte Vecchio (that I also have) or some other famous landmarks, but nothing of my less known site.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 10:05:23 AM EST
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Fascinating structure you picture in the story section. One guess it could be a celing, but don't know what kind. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 12:03:14 PM EST
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Re: WHAT IS IT? (4.00 / 4)

It is part of the Siambr (debating chamber) in the Senedd (pronounced Sen-eth) - it is Welsh for Parliament/Senate, which isn't exactly what it is in legal terms.

It is the Welsh Assembly building where our elected Assembly Members hold their public debates and committee meetings. It is gorgeous. Iconic piece of architecture and also very eco friendly. Superb design. I am thinking of doing a diary on it but time doesn't permit right now. Here is another shot of the upper level from the public part of the building.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 02:40:13 PM EST
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I didn't say figuring I had an unfair advantage.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 02:44:48 PM EST
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lol!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 03:20:18 PM EST
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I thought it was something by Aalto

by borkitekt on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 03:15:11 PM EST
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Looks really like a great building. I would welcome a diary, when ever it fits your schedule. :-)

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 03:59:12 AM EST
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I'll take more of my own photos at some point soon. I've been commissioned to take photos of an event there in a couple of weeks so I can get some night time shots too. Then I ought to have enough for a diary!

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:32:38 AM EST
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To keep you going till then have the buildings webpage

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 05:28:24 PM EST
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WHERE IS IT? (4.00 / 5)

As good as a photo gets on a rainy-cold October day:

Those who know me know at least the region.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:44:17 PM EST
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Re: WHAT IS IT? (4.00 / 2)

Where is it? I took this with my lensbaby.
A clue: It is a pigeon's eye view, there are loads of them here...

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 06:45:30 PM EST
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Re: Friday Photography Blog No. 9 (none / 1)

Greetings all. I'm just waking up in Wasington, D. C. where, it appears, I've brought with me an end to the summer weather. Good. Maybe that'll cool things off for George and Dick.
I uploaded a few photos to Picassa by estHer and myself that I wanted to post but the house I'm staying out has a Mac which doesn't work with all Picassa' functions. I'll try later today when I get to my office athough I only have dialup there.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 05:54:24 AM EST

Annimation by estHer. (none / 1)

estHer has made 3 tiny animation films using her still camera, frame by frame. I'll give you the link below. Click on slideshow and then set the timing to one second and then go. They're very clever. The slide show doesnt seem to work on the Mac I'm using' but it should work with windows. http://picassa web.google.com/lenporyles/EstherThreeLittleFilms

Maybe someone can fix the link for me. I can't work with Mac.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 06:08:35 AM EST
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Re: Friday Photography Blog No. 9 (none / 0)

Yeah, isn't this weather great! We haven't had rain for 32 days and all of a sudden it's looking like a European Fall. Rain, rain, rain. I was made for this!

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 10:11:24 PM EST
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Sunset on the Yonne (4.00 / 11)

Melo liked this shot- here it is again. I also love it.
Ivonne took this one, so I can't take credit. Grumble.

Since mobility issues often make it hard for me to frame up the shot, If I see something really good, Ivonne often takes it--and she has a great eye for composition. But the word "level"--- Bah.

Grabbing what you can, as John Ruskin said, isn't any less wicked when you grab it with the power of your brains than with the power of your fists.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 06:59:18 AM EST

Re: Sunset on the Yonne (none / 0)

I love this photo Geezer.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 07:26:33 AM EST
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Re: Sunset on the Yonne (none / 0)

Yeah it is a lovely shot.

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 02:32:10 PM EST
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Re: Sunset on the Yonne (none / 0)

Thanks both.

Grabbing what you can, as John Ruskin said, isn't any less wicked when you grab it with the power of your brains than with the power of your fists.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:37:43 AM EST
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Valiant little Warrior (4.00 / 4)

Not mine- but a good morning grin anyway.

THIS is my favorite.

Grabbing what you can, as John Ruskin said, isn't any less wicked when you grab it with the power of your brains than with the power of your fists.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 07:08:14 AM EST

Re: Valiant little Warrior (none / 1)

I do keep looking at this picture and thinking it's faked. just little things here and there that make it seem unreal.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 08:07:16 AM EST
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FWIW, this photo was on the cover of Tariq Ali's Bush in Babylon.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:14:15 AM EST
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ok, either the photographer was extremely lucky and causgt theliquid just as it hit the helmet, orwhere is the splash of impact? youd expect at least some splashes of light from the droplets as they bounced from the helmets surface.

Secondlygo out and spray liquid in an arc like that, and you'll see that it breaks up into globules very quickly after leaving the nozzle, the smaller the flow the larger the gap between the packets of fluid too, yet the liquid seems to be describing a complete arc.

the kids shorts/penis/elbow are mighty suspicious too.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:25:58 AM EST
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I'll have to look for a copy of the book in a bookshop and look at the cover photo credits.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 09:57:40 AM EST
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It's hard to tell on a low-res copy - usually you can blow up the image and look for fringing around the joins.

What makes me think it's at least plausible is that there are no obvious fringes around the kid's hair - cutting and pasting hair is always interesting in Photoshop - and the light looks believable. Often when you try to montage two scenes they're lit from completely different angles, and which doesn't seem to be true here.

Then again you're right about the splashes, and the aim is possibly a little too perfect.

So I'd say it's open - could be either.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 12:46:20 PM EST
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I was thinking that the kid and the soldier were part of the original photo, which would cut the hair fringing problems out, just the penis and urine would have been added.

The sheer accuracy of hitting the centre of the helmet is a bit dubious though I agree

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 12:51:32 PM EST
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would also think he'd have to pull his pants down just a bit further... but at any rate, how long would it take for the soldier to notice that it was raining on a very limited area?

by borkitekt on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 03:14:22 PM EST
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Re: Valiant little Warrior (4.00 / 3)

You know it's very possible to do hair and make it look good in Photoshop, especially at this level of resolution, but I agree that the boy may have been there all along. The penis and stream look faked. I can't see the soldier sitting there so calmly. I say this was faked without any real intent to deceive. The point was made and that's what it's all about.

I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell. _ Blood Sweat & Tears

by Gringo (stargazing camel at aoldotcom) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 10:18:05 PM EST
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Re: Valiant little Warrior (4.00 / 2)

I say this was faked without any real intent to deceive. The point was made and that's what it's all about.

Thank got someone gets it. It just does not matter.

Grabbing what you can, as John Ruskin said, isn't any less wicked when you grab it with the power of your brains than with the power of your fists.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:26:44 AM EST
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OK, first of all, neither the uniform nor the weapon are consistent with anything that US troops have worn in Iraq.

Second, as others have mentioned, there's no splash on the helmet-top.

Third, look at how the kid is standing; the boy's feet are placed at such an angle that it's highly improbable that he'd be able to pee outward at the angle that the stream would have to take in order to hit the soldier's head. He'd have to be peeing sideways.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Oct 26th, 2007 at 10:34:08 PM EST
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Re: Valiant little Warrior (none / 1)

What a strange collection of responses.
This is an image with a message, and if it was techically assembled in one way or another, --what difference does it make? Can no one let go of the urge to piss in it technically long enough to laugh?
It was clearly intended to be a laugh-- a guffaw from the heart, to know that others view mechanized slaughter with the contempt it deserves.
It was a gift to me from, a kind man in Denmark, ---who got it, and knew I would too.

Grabbing what you can, as John Ruskin said, isn't any less wicked when you grab it with the power of your brains than with the power of your fists.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 04:24:40 AM EST
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I seem to remember a thorough exposure of the fake, but can't find it now. Only this Italian page claiming the soldier in the photo-montage is Finnish.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 05:01:16 AM EST
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lookin at the kit the soldier is holding, I think He's Israeli

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 06:19:53 AM EST
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But neither the arm insignia, nor the helmet, nor the gun looks like Israeli to me. That said, the gun doesn't look like that Finnish weapon, either.

At any rate, now I found that the image first spread on the web during April 2003, the earliest I found so far is 6 April 2003 in What Really Happened.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 10:30:52 AM EST
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Re: Valiant little Warrior (4.00 / 2)

I have this picture stored on my pc, dated 1992.
Can't remember where it came from but it was in my map with Palestinian struggle documentation.
The weapon is a Galil AR 7.62mm, an Israëli weapon from the 70's-80's based on the Finnish concept of the Valmet Rk.62 on his turn a licenced version of the AK-47 ( incredible this weapon-stories).

Of course the hole point of the picture is obvious
No matter what weapon, nationality or composed image: this picture expresses what a lot of people think about war.

The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)

by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 11:30:17 AM EST
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Re: Valiant little Warrior (none / 1)

That looks like it. And these IDF soldiers appear to sport the same helmet which looked unfamiliar to me (must be an earlier model). But the shoulder tags don't resemble any of these.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Oct 27th, 2007 at 12:31:34 PM EST
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