New UK policy on EU: same old, same old.

by Colman
Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 07:59:34 AM EST

Nosemonkey analyses Miliband's speech for us:
Is this part of the “new diplomacy” being promised by the Foreign Office since Miliband took over? Choosing locations guaranteed to raise spectres of past confrontations to get everyone in Brussels suspicious from the get-go after months of barely looking in the direction of the Continent, and with Gordon Brown still seemingly utterly uninterested in the whole concept of the EU? Setting up stall in seemingly explicit opposition to the most secure politician on the continent, furthering the Anglo-French divide that has blighted all efforts at serious EU reform (most importantly of the Common Agricultural Policy) for decades?

This doesn’t strike me as a new approach at all. The choice of Bruges for Miliband’s speech was perfect - for it demonstrates that Brown’s EU policy is going to be exactly the same as that of every other British Prime Minister since Heath lost office: try to pretend it isn’t there as much as you can, then spout vague platitudes about free trade, irritate the French, then bugger off again.

Yep, when it comes to the EU, under Brown it seems to be business as usual. Yet another reason for paying no attention to anything Brown and co say on the matter.

He thinks the "vision" is one of a multi-tier EU focused about the free-market provisions and screw the rest. Maybe it is time to pursue a multi-speed EU: so long as there are protections against free-riding similar to those applied to European Economic Area members. I only realised recently that EEA members contribute to things like the cohesion funds.

My new plan for the EU:

  • Pass the reform treaty
  • Start the campaign for a further integrated enhanced Europe with greater authority for the Parliament on a multi-speed basis.
  • Leave the skeptics and those who are beholden to other powers behind. They can join us when they want.


There's a rule of principled negotiation that says you always need to identify your Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement (BATNA). Currently the situation in the EU is that we don't have any realistic BATNA when dealing with the UK. We need to build one that serves our interests without them and then leave them the choice between isolation or integration.
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Put another way: to hell with the little Englanders. The way things are going they'll find Scotland and Northern Ireland abandoning them.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 08:00:33 AM EST
Haven't the Scots and the Tories already begun that process in the former case?

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 11:15:53 AM EST
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They can join us when they want.

what makes you think you're one of us?

;-)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 08:34:57 AM EST
That's the way it seems to be leaning: if the issues with the North can be sorted Ireland would probably sign up to deeper integration.

Anyway, be nice or we'll sink your treaty.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 08:37:53 AM EST
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that Sarkozy saved single-handedly?

Oh that would be so sad.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 09:01:16 AM EST
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Sarko will fly to Ireland personally to 'do things' and 'create a breakthrough' if there is any 'crisis'.

All on his own!

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 09:24:27 AM EST
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If this one were sunk, I would not be as depressed as with the constitution.

What mattered with the Constitution was the symbolic significance, the political momentum, and the expected choice put to the Brits to put up or shut up.

We have none of these in this case. Sure, there are good things on the substance (like increased powers for the Parliamen), but it's just not as important as the rest. It's been made into a non-event, which is just the way the anti-Europeans want it in order to keep the EU powerful enough for their pro-corporate backroom deals to happen, powerless for real change, and a convenient scapegoat unable to fight back.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 09:04:51 AM EST
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You hit it exactly right.

Sucking the personality from an advanced idea yet again. The worst kind of co-opting.

Anger Friday. Except for the death penalty advances and Italy tweaking Burlesoni, it hasn't been an upbeat week.

Time to change all this for the better.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 06:32:43 PM EST
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New UK policy on EU: same old, same old.

Frightened of it's right wing press.

Money is a sign of Poverty - Culture Saying
by RogueTrooper on Fri Nov 16th, 2007 at 01:43:46 PM EST


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