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Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:09:32 PM EST

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I could seriously listen to that oud player all night, but I'm going over to a friend's for an early holiday dinner, instead.

What's up in your worlds?

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:10:53 PM EST
What's up ? Absolutely nothing, it's been really cold outside and I'm too lily-livered to want to go and brave it for no reason.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:13:31 PM EST
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Today was our towns one late night shopping night a year, so I've been out watching children queueing to see santa, stalls selling hot food, and fairground rides in the one blocked off street.

I have to look through the few photos I took to see if it was a productive evening.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:24:10 PM EST
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Gallery private view. Sold some stuff, people-watched, mingled, possibly found some new leads.

Good day.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 04:56:58 PM EST
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Excellent, congratulations!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 05:13:47 PM EST
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El Cid, via Glenn Greenwald comes up with a plausible explantion of the Democrats weakness

The Democratic leadership's Beltway peers, the pundits they appreciate, and the consultancy class see it as a victory whenever the Democrats defy their own base to support some hawkish initiative.

It's these opinions they care about, and those people only make fun of the Democratic leadership when they give in to their dirty fringe crazy unsophisticated 'base'.

Scorning their own base is how Democrats get their head-pat from the Beltway Establishment, which is, far and away, what they crave most.


Defying their own base / majority of US public to favor hawks: Strong, Bold, Unconventional.

Acting for their own base / majority of US public to defy hawks: Timid, Yielding, Controlled By 'Interest Groups'.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:17:43 PM EST
It's that class self-selection issue again. Without working and lower-middle class interns, Beltway culture exclusively reflects upper-middle and ownership class values.

Being mean to the peasants is too much of a enjoyable hobby for some of these people.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 04:59:08 PM EST
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They do seem to love it.  My boss, who is very much of the Washington Cocktail Circuit culture, turned her nose up to me yesterday when she was commenting to a few of us about shopping.  Told me I should go check out some hoighty toighty men's clothing store downtown ("You can get nice suits for less than $2,000 on their annual sales"), and, being a fool prole, said that I was perfectly happy with my $40 Target suits.

"Well, you'll have to buy better eventually."

(shrug) If I bought into her views, I'd be sitting in some disgusting old house in the West End, watching my wealth evaporate.  Too bad she didn't listen to me about the housing bubble.

But she's got expensive clothes.  And, hey, that and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee at McDonald's.

Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 06:52:47 PM EST
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Following on from my mention of Gary Webb's treatment at the hands of the tradional media for revealing the extent of the CIA's invovlement with cocaine smuggling in the 80s comes this about a rather embarrassing plane crash.

CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE

This Florida-based Gulfstream II jet aircraft, #N987SA, crash landed on September 24, 2007 after it ran out of fuel over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula. (At the time) it had a cargo of several tons of Cocaine on board. Now documents have turned up on both sides of the Atlantic that link aircraft # N987SA to the CIA, who used it on at least 3 rendition flights from Europe and the USA to Guantanamo's infamous torture chambers between 2003 to 2005.

We'll call that a "whoops" shall we ? :-))

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:26:15 PM EST
So that story of the CIA exchanging cocaine for weapons, and selling it to fund other secret activity is still so much tinfoil hat stuff is it? :-)

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:31:06 PM EST
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This is just a coincidence.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:39:26 PM EST
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I'm sure they'll tell us it was intended solely for official White House use only.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:01:23 PM EST
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That's why they call it the "White House" then?
by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 06:47:48 PM EST
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It goes into the room where they have the humidor closet full of Cuban cigars.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 04:29:04 AM EST
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So whaddaya think the Christmas carol of choice is - "Let It Snow" or "White Christmas"?

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 05:44:07 AM EST
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The link to the CIA was already discovered on 25 Sept. by plane-spotters.




The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)

by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:19:26 PM EST
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My sister was offered cocaine at a party recently - she turned it down with the excuse that it wasn't fair trade.
Honest.  I laughed so much when she told me.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:23:42 PM EST
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Is she in the trade union movement also?

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:34:59 PM EST
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No, she's a barrister.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:39:54 PM EST
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How does she choose her cases? Any political ideology involved.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:42:30 PM EST
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She is a defence barrister and the firm of solicitors she works for passes cases on.  Apparently she specialises in vulnerable people cases, domestic violence and family law.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 03:05:57 PM EST
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LEP, I have forgotten. What is the theme for tomorrow's photoblog?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 03:53:35 PM EST
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"Spring and Summer Blue Sky Photos."

blue skies
smilin' at me
nothin' but blue skies
do I see.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.

by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 04:11:03 PM EST
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Oh yes! Hooray!

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 04:19:06 PM EST
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grief, it must be decades since I was last at a party where there might have been cocaine. There was once a time.....yikes suddenly I feel old and the world has whizzed (sic) by.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 06:52:13 PM EST
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End of the World edition. Not that I feel gloomy.

REM | It's The End Of The World As We Know It lyrics

That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane -
Lenny Burnside is not afraid. Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn -
world serves its own needs, don't misserve your own needs. Feed it up a knock,
speed, grunt no, strength no. Ladder structure clatter with fear of height,
down height. Wire in a fire, represent the seven games in a government for
hire and a combat site. Left her, wasn't coming in a hurry with the furies
breathing down your neck. Team by team reporters baffled, trump, tethered
crop. Look at that low plane! Fine then. Uh oh, overflow, population,
common group, but it'll do. Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its
own needs, listen to your heart bleed. Tell me with the rapture and the
reverent in the right - right. You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright
light, feeling pretty psyched.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

Six o'clock - TV hour. Don't get caught in foreign tower. Slash and burn,
return, listen to yourself churn. Lock him in uniform and book burning,
blood letting. Every motive escalate. Automotive incinerate. Light a candle,
light a motive. Step down, step down. Watch a heel crush, crush. Uh oh,
this means no fear - cavalier. Renegade and steer clear! A tournament,
a tournament, a tournament of lies. Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives
and I decline.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

The other night I tripped a nice continental drift divide. Mount St. Edelite.
Leonard Bernstein. Leonid Breshnev, Lenny Bruce and Lester Bangs.
Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom! You symbiotic, patriotic,
slam, but neck, right? Right.

It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine...fine...

LEONARD COHEN LYRICS - The Future

"The Future"

Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it's lonely here,
there's no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby,
that's an order!
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that's left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I've seen the future, brother:
it is murder.

Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won't be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant

You don't know me from the wind
you never will, you never did
I'm the little jew
who wrote the Bible
I've seen the nations rise and fall
I've heard their stories, heard them all
but love's the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
to say it clear, to say it cold:
It's over, it ain't going
any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
you feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

There'll be the breaking of the ancient
western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There'll be phantoms
There'll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing
You'll see a woman
hanging upside down
her features covered by her fallen gown
and all the lousy little poets
coming round
tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson
and the white man dancin'

Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St Paul
Give me Christ
or give me Hiroshima
Destroy another fetus now
We don't like children anyhow
I've seen the future, baby:
it is murder

Things are going to slide ...

When they said REPENT REPENT ...
by Nomad on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:29:17 PM EST
Excellent!

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:35:26 PM EST
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End of the world remix


"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:26:44 PM EST
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Brilliant piece of remix!

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 03:26:56 PM EST
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Doesn't work? Link


"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 04:19:30 PM EST
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have too much time on their hands!!!!

Hysterical!!!!!!!!! Can't believe he said "Look at that low plane" - it sounds like the Bushbaby though.

Who's the guy at the "end" proclaiming "Nah, this is not the end, it's not even the beginning of the end" and so on? Does anyone have a clue for me?

by Nomad on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 04:53:52 PM EST
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Who's the guy at the "end" proclaiming "Nah, this is not the end, it's not even the beginning of the end"

Winston Churchill

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 06:43:48 PM EST
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But I didn't recognise him at all. Thanks, M.
by Nomad on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 03:06:37 AM EST
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It was in a speech made in 1942 after the El-Alamein victory.

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 11:11:33 AM EST
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Hmm, show some sympathy for the devil ;-)
by das monde on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 12:30:04 AM EST
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OH. MY. GOD.  That is brilliant.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 06:06:57 AM EST
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Those REM lyrics aren't quite right.  For one thing, it's Lenny Bruce who's not afraid.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 05:57:08 AM EST
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You know, in 1967, a few weeks after the Biograph opened we played the "Lenny Bruce in Concert" film. I was worried the cops were gonna come in and bust us; Here was a guy who said "fuck" in public and attacked the Catholic church. A year or so later the whole country was telling our president to "go fuck yourself" as well as their own mothers and fathers.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 12:22:38 PM EST
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Seeing as everybody is posting pomes these days, here's one of the two I know. I may have posted it before but it would have been a long long time ago


I wandered slimy as a toad
O'er grotty hill and grimy road
Until at last, the rise I top
and there, behold, the reocrd shop

I wander in with wanton smile that stretchey all the golden mile
I leap upon the counter high and then in mucous voice I cry
I like Bill Grunt and Ernie Grimv
But what I want is GORALABIMV

The assistant smiles a subtle grin
that spreads itself across his chin
Although we woodstock Ernie Grimv
I've never 'eard of Goralabimv

By chance I have my brolly near
and thrust it gently through his ear
he screams, he pleads, he shouts, he cries
and then, brain pierced, he slowly dies

I mutter as I hobble out,
it serves him right the foolish lout
he should have stocked goralabimv
after all, I fought a war for him



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:50:30 PM EST
I'm amused and bepuzzled and can't find any other reference on Google search or any line out of the stanzas. Is this, perchance, a creation from your own hand or have we hit a Googlewhack?
by Nomad on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 04:41:52 PM EST
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Umm, my senior school published a twice yearly record of all our triumphs at football, rugby, cricket blah blah. In the centre we were invited to submit poems and short amusing essays.

this was one (emphatically not mine) that amused me enough to learn it. The writer (who was anonymous) and I are probably the only ones who remember it.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 05:18:28 PM EST
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Why have Kos gone out of their way to pile in on Ron Paul ? I mean, yes we know he's a lunatic who shouldn't be allowed out of his padded cell, let alone into the Oval office, but is he really such a threat that they need to devote regular columns to trashing him ?

Just wondering

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 01:53:42 PM EST
He is the only Repub candidate who is good looking, articulate, and untainted - and comes with antiwar credentials to boot. And he's actually less of a nutcase than the other repuglies (I know that's a very low bar, but still).

I personally would not want to bet on the outcome of a Paul/Clinton match-up - if he ever makes it past the Repug base.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:06:24 PM EST
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Paul is the only Republican who talks sense about 9/11 and the War on Terra.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:21:20 PM EST
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Paul is the only Republican who talks sense about 9/11 and the War on Terra.

Small comfort when you consider his platform.

by Loefing on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 05:25:21 PM EST
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by piling on paul, they keep the antiwar lefties in line.

see also: ralph nader.

by wu ming on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 04:42:35 AM EST
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US told to 'wake up' over climate change
By David Adam and Sarah Bridge, The Guardian

The war of words between the US and the EU over climate change policy escalated today as the EU threatened to boycott US-led talks on the environment if it continued to block emissions targets.

As the deadlocked UN climate change conference in Bali entered its final days, delegates had still not agreed on a deal to succeed the Kyoto Protocol, a UN pact which caps greenhouse gas emissions of all industrial nations except the US until 2012.

The US is opposing plans to make industrialised countries reduce emissions by between 25% and 40% by 2020. Next month it is hosting a meeting of 17 of the world's top-emitting nations, including China, Russia and India, to discuss long-term curbs on greenhouse gases.

However Humberto Rosa, the environment secretary of Portugal, which currently holds the EU presidency, said today: 'If we [were to] have a failure in Bali it would be meaningless to have a Major Economies' Meeting (MEM) in the United States.

"We are not blackmailing," he said at the 190-nation meeting. "If no Bali, no MEM."

In my opinion, the EU should really be ready with carbon tariffs on everything (from flights to goods to software to services) and, if necessary, economic sanctions against the U.S. and the other eco-terrorist nations. This sort of threat is meaningless. The U.S. is heading into a recession, the time to use economic pain is now.

by Magnifico on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:30:55 PM EST
That's like the Democrats stopping the Iraq war. No way will it happen!

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 02:40:30 PM EST
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unless Europe stands up to the US on climate issues now.

Greenhouse gases known no political boundaries. The world needs the United State's cooperation in solving a world problem and I think the only way my country will cooperate is by feeling pain. From the projections I've seen, Europe is going to feel more pain and sooner than the U.S. will.

I suspect if Europeans wait for Americans to get a clue, even with a Democratic Congress and president, it still will be too late. The U.S. is heading for a nasty recession that is likely to be really starting to hurt just after the general election in November 2008. I believe Americans aren't going to do anything to they perceive, wrongly in this case, to hurt their economy.

I think Europe should force the issue. Isolate the U.S. The dollar is weak, the country is in debt. Use economic muscle before the U.S. strangles Europe with its pollution.

Just my two American cents.

by Magnifico on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 04:54:08 PM EST
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Two weeks ago I visited the European Commission and we had one hour with someone from the DG External Relations who said the Member State governments have "no balls" [sic] to stand up to the US when it would be needed.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 05:03:29 PM EST
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someone from the DG External Relations who said the Member State governments have "no balls" [sic] to stand up to the US

Exactly. Can't have the servants making a nuisance can we ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 05:11:51 PM EST
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Course not. But that would not be on climate change, now would it? Because we sure did piss Bush off with the ICAP. Well, if he noticed. We're slowly working on the ability to bypass the US Federal Government on this. That is radical.

The thing is: we can't do shit right now about what the US does without starting an all-out trade war. No European country is going to support that. Sarkozy talks about carbon tariffs, but when push comes to shove, there is no way he'd impose those against the US. He's just posturing. He'd want these tariffs, but only against developing countries.

The only thing we can do are these small moves, like ICAP, towards working directly with US states. Otherwise, we just have to wait Bush out. There is no other option. There is nothing we can do.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 06:35:37 PM EST
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Do you seriously believe that any incoming president is gonna act any different ? They get leant on by the same biofuel interests, the same car companies, the same oil companies as bush and the amount of funding they receive from these guys over and (probably) under the table would make yer eyes water.

No way are they gonna go against those interests.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 06:49:57 PM EST
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Yes, I seriously believe that the next president is going to be different (if, as likely, it's a Democrat, or McCain, the other repubs won't be). Hillary and Obama have presented pretty good energy and climate change plans. Public pressure is going to be big. There are going to be big majorities for the Democrats in the House and the Senate.

And, yes, they are going to go against the interest of car companies (the easiest one, Detroit no longer means much for the US economy), oil companies (they backed Bush and are now backing Giuliani, so there will be no love lost. Well, unless Giuliani becomes President, of course). Hollywood is a much! bigger donor for the Dems, and Hollywood is totally infatuated with the green thing.

(see opensecrets for data)

Now biofuels I don't know about. They're probably going to keep pushing for those, as well as carbon capture and sequestration for coal plants. But there is going to be a sea-change on the topic of energy and global warming.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 07:22:26 PM EST
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There is a groundswell of public support for sane environmental and energy policies in the US waiting to be tapped.  When these policies are undergirded with the advantages of sustainable economic growth, local job creation from massive renewables production, and the change in balance of trade as energy money stays home, that groundswell can begin to be effective.  But i'm sure this will only happen after serious pain in amurka.

Throw in the idea that such a massive move to renewables would play a strong role in beginning to rebuild global respect for a country now considered insane, and we might have ignition.

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 04:52:13 AM EST
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Throw in the idea that such a massive move to renewables would play a strong role in beginning to rebuild global respect for a country now considered insane, and we might have ignition.

Is there any significant constituency in the US that gives a flying one what the rest of the world thinks ? Or is even aware that Brand USA is a lttle tarnished of late ?

You have Obama who talks mightily about the rightness of american exceptionalism as if he seriously believes that all that needs to happen is a change of Pres and ta-dah !!, we'll all excuse everything and become believers again. As for Hilary, she's so far up denial she's in Sudan.

And where is the teaching moment ? When the elites of the world are crawling on their hands and knees to be photographed, but otherwise ignored, on the WH lawn, the populations they control but never hear are nauseated by the very sight of their cowardice.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 06:11:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
wasn't writing about politicians, was referring to the intelligent part of the people who live there, who just because they have no voice, still live there and want things righted.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Dec 14th, 2007 at 08:13:25 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Thieves cut off man's 'holy leg'

Police in southern India are hunting for two men who attacked a Hindu holy man, cut off his right leg and then made off with it.

The 80-year-old holy man, Yanadi Kondaiah, claimed to have healing powers in the leg.

He is now recovering from his ordeal in hospital in the city of Tirupati in the state of Andhra Pradesh.

Local people believed they could be healed of spiritual and physical problems if they touched his leg.



Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 03:11:52 PM EST
BBC: Blow for unions in EU labour row
The European Union's highest court has backed the right of companies to move to another EU state to cut costs.

The European Court of Justice (ECJ) was ruling on a Finnish ferry company, Viking, which replaced the crew on one of its ships with Estonian workers.

Trade unions intervened, preventing Estonian union members from negotiating with the company.

The court said unions were allowed to take collective action, if jobs and work conditions were under threat.

The ECJ decided it was up to the national court to decide whether jobs were likely to be affected.

But it warned the unions that collective action would be illegal if it restricted the EU's freedom of establishment, which guarantees a company's right to carry out economic activity in other member states.


WTF? That's a real big blow for unions right there, winning only 2/3rds of a case?

(See also the Wednesday Salon, with a fair, even-handed article from the EUobserver on the same ruling)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 03:22:51 PM EST

Christoph is the Bundesrat that has been ousted yesterday.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 03:28:36 PM EST
Some more welcome stuff in the New York Times - even on the op-ed pages!

Maureen Dowd derides Feith and the neo-cons:


...Feith told Jeffrey Goldberg in The New Yorker that "My family got wiped out by Hitler, and ... all this stuff about working things out -- well, talking to Hitler to resolve the problem didn't make any sense to me. The kind of people who put bumper stickers on their car that declare that `War is not the answer,' are they making a serious comment? What's the answer to Pearl Harbor? What's the answer to the Holocaust?"

What's the answer to bin Laden? According to Feith, it was an attack on an unrelated dictator. He oversaw the Policy Counterterrorism Evaluation Group, whose mission was to amp up links between Saddam and Al Qaeda.

It defies reason, but there are still some who think the chuckleheads who orchestrated the Iraq misadventure have wisdom to impart.

The Pentagon neocons dumped Condi Rice out of the loop. Yet, according to Newsweek's Mike Isikoff, Condi has now offered Wolfie a job. It wasn't enough that he trashed Iraq and the World Bank. (He's still larking around town with Shaha, the sweetheart he gave the sweetheart deal to.)

Condi wants Wolfie to advise her on nuclear proliferation and W.M.D. as part of a State Department panel that has access to highly classified intelligence.

Once you've helped distort W.M.D. intelligence to trick the country into war, shouldn't you be banned for life from ever having another top-level government post concerning W.M.D.?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/12/opinion/12dowd.html

Gail Collins ridicules the Republican candidates:

Huckabee! Huckabee! The man of the hour! What is it that voters love so much about this guy? Is it a hitherto inchoate yearning for a president who knows less about international affairs than they do? Hope that a man who can lose 100 pounds could also get rid of the federal deficit?

Mike is soaring ahead in the early polls, in a surge to the front of the pack that suggests Republicans cannot come to grips with the idea that they are supposed to nominate either Mitt Romney or Rudy Giuliani for president. There has to be a way out! What about Huckabee? He has a good heart! True, his brain doesn't seem to have a single thought about foreign policy or know much about domestic policy, for that matter. But one well-functioning body part is better than nothing.

Yesterday, the Republican candidates for president had their last debate of 2007, and let me say, there's nothing that gets you in the holiday spirit like Rudy Giuliani pointing out that Islamic fanatics want us dead. While this was supposed to be Romney's big chance to regain momentum in Iowa, it wound up being a pretty dull affair. Mitt did not even get a chance to ask Huckabee why, in a new Times Magazine interview, he coyly dropped the question of whether Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers.

(Coming next: Mike innocently asks whether it's true that New York mayors worship false idols.)
...
The Republican pack is one extremely unappealing bunch of politicians, and it's no wonder that the poor voters have developed buyers' remorse before they've come near the cash register. Huckabee is this week's exercise in avoidance, and he's not likely to be the last.
...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/opinion/13collins.html

Meanwhile, the editors attack Bush for threatening to veto an energy bill:


... the bill, as it now stands, contains not only the new fuel standards, which is a huge step forward, but also generous incentives for energy efficiency, for cleaner alternative fuels and for the new technologies that will be required to reduce the country's output of greenhouse gases. By almost any measure, it is the most important energy bill that Congress has entertained in many years.

It is thus astonishing that President Bush would even think of vetoing it, especially since he called for much the same improvements in automobile mileage as those contained in the bill. In a statement Tuesday, however, the White House demanded that the bill be amended to make the industry-friendly Transportation Department solely responsible for regulating fuel economy as well as carbon dioxide emissions from automobiles.

This would directly reverse the Supreme Court's historic decision in April declaring that greenhouses gases are air pollutants under the meaning of the Clean Air Act and giving the Environmental Protection Agency the power to regulate them. It would also have the effect of stripping California and other states of the power to impose their own automobile emissions standards.

It is no secret that the carmakers and many of their industrial allies detest the E.P.A. and hate the idea that environmentally aggressive states like California have the right to set their own rules -- a right reaffirmed yesterday in federal court in California. But for the White House to advance industry's cause at the 11th hour of the debate over a breakthrough energy bill is inexcusable.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/opinion/13thu2.html



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 03:37:06 PM EST
Received this today:

Dear MillMan,
Account number ending in: xxxx

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I'll just note that my Bank of America accounts are still open.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 05:25:08 PM EST
What's going on with BoA?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 05:44:42 PM EST
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Just the usual. There is nowhere to run, really. I'm just keeping my BoA accounts open because they are a huge bank in comparison to etrade.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 06:04:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | Wales | Mid Wales | Santa's 'elf and safety' worries
A mobile Santa's grotto in Ceredigion has come to a halt after 30 years because of concerns about "elf" and safety.

Santa has toured Lampeter and surrounding villages on the back of a trailer since 1977, but there are worries now that it is too dangerous.

Lampeter Rotary Club, which runs the grotto, said it was concerned about children's health and safety.

Youngsters will be able to visit Father Christmas at two supermarkets instead.



Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Dec 13th, 2007 at 06:16:55 PM EST


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