The meaning of life.[IMPORTANT UPDATE]

by LEP
Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 07:45:34 AM EST

In the comments to "A Chrismas Tale" Jerome stated:

Jerome a Paris:

So this is Pascal's wager again? (none / 1) It does not work though - if the spiritual thing exists only in your head then you'll have spent your all life (and wasted everything you have) in the pursuit of something that does not exist. Maybe some will find that pursuit enough. I don't.

I said that reminded me of an old Yiddish story that was long, but that if I had some requests I would write it up. Well, I've had one request. That's enough, no? So here it is.

We are in New York, the year 1973.

Existentialist light relief for a quiet Saturday afternoon - Diary rescue by Migeru


There is this extremely successful Madison Avenue advertising executive, about 55 years of age, his children are all grown and in university. He has many, many millions of dollars. He is getting quite bored with his existence, has little relation with his wife and children, and in effect is questioning his whole existence. Someone introduces him to Castaneda's "The teachings of Don Juan." He reads it and is blown away. "Holy shit" he says to himself, "I'm wasting my whole life." He decides to sell his interest in the advertising agency, put all his money in trust for his family, keep one million dollars for himself and begin a quest to find out what "the meaning of life" is, something his religion could never answer. His family is quite pissed at him, and he realizes that he may lose them, but it is not possible for him to abort his adventure.
He heads of to the Mexican border to search enlightenment just as Castaneda did.
He is introduced to some Mexican sorcerers who in turn introduce him to the ancient mind expanding drugs of the Indians, what we would call mescaline from the cactus plant. He stays with the Indians for several months slowly learning the way of the cactus plant. Finally, he gets up the nerve to ask his master, "Can you tell me the meaning of life?" Surprised, his master replies "I cannot tell you that? But there may be this great man, who we have heard of who lives on top of a volcano in Hawaii who might be able to answer that question.
Needless to say the same thing happened with the great man who lived on top of the volcano in Hawaii as well as the Japanese zen master who followed, and the Chinese Taoist sifu in Beijing. No one could answer his question. The years were quickly passing for the former executive. It is now 1980. His money was running out, his weight had gone from 180 to 130 pounds. He is most distressed and depressed.
Finally, he's in Turkey. Someone he encounters tells him about this great rabbi who resides on the top of the Mount of Olives in Israel who might help him in his quest. Legend has it that this rabbi is more than 100 years old.
Suffering from exhaustion the former executive decides to give it one last try. He arrives in Tel Aviv and then he takes a bus to the Mount of Olives. At the foot of the Mount he starts to ask people about this great rabbi who could answer his great question. He is introduced to the first secretary of the great rabbi and begs him to arrange an interview. The secretary tells him he'll try; to go back to the hotel and he'll get back to him in a day or two. At 8 a.m. the next morning, on a beautiful April day, an emissary from  the great rabbi arrives and says to the executive, come with me; the Rabbi will see you now. It's not too high as mounts go and it took about 2 hours to walk up and arrive at the rabbis enclave, several modest wood cabins in a semi circle. In the center of this semicircle sat the rabbi on a modest high backed chair, talking to his disciples. The emissary went to the rabbi and he beckoned the executive to have a seat about 10 feet in front of the rabbi.
He was a medium size man rather old with a white beard and mustache. His eyes were wide open and alert like those of a young man. What can I do for you my friend?" the rabbi asked.
The executive said, "Rabbi, I have been travelling the earth for many years now seeking to know the meaning of life. I've been to Mexico, Hawaii, Japan, China and Turkey, and I've probably forgot other places, but I've had no success. Can you help me?
I think I can said the rabbi.
"Please Rabbi, tell me: what is the meaning of life?"
The rabbi was very quiet for about one minute. Then he said: "LIFE IS A FOUNTAIN."
The executive looked puzzled for a moment and then he said: "life is a fountain?" "For seven years I've been traveling, searching for the meaning of life; I've lost everything; my business, my fortune , my family, my health, I finally find you and you tell me that "LIFE IS A FOUNTAIN?"
The executive then starts to lose his head and starts to scream at the rabbi: "LIFE IS NOT A FOUNTAIN, LIFE IS NOT A FOUNTAIN, LIFE IS NOT A FOUNTAIN!"

The rabbi looks at the executive, thinks for a 30 seconds or so, shrugs his shoulders, and says: "SO, life is not a fountain!

Happy New Year To All! Update [2008-1-5 19:20:25 by LEP]: Ending according to DoDo:

"Please Rabbi, tell me the meaning of life!"
The Rabbi was very quiet for a minute and then said: "LIFE IS A MESSAGE, but you can never understand it because you are only the messenger."
The executive looked at the Rabbi for 30 seconds and replied: "OH SHIT!"
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Great story, LEP!

BTW, life is a fountain!


"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 05:59:49 AM EST
Thanks Melanchthon. I agree, life could be a fountain. But Sven thinks it's a chocolate cake!

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 06:12:06 AM EST
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I beg to differ: Sven thinks life is a pot of Marmite...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 06:25:59 AM EST
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perhaps it's a Chocolate fountain

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 06:30:48 AM EST
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mmmmm. That sounds good. I can imagine dipping my favorite sausage in Belgian chocolate.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 06:34:23 AM EST
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Only a lot of the time, it's unsweetend chocolate.

</cynic>

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 06:56:20 AM EST
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shouldnt that be

</pesimist>

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 06:59:41 AM EST
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Maybe.  And not only that, but the unsweetened chocolate fountain is half-empty.  And it has bugs in it.

</grouch>

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 07:04:01 AM EST
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And its cable is just to short for its plug to go into the wall socket.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 07:27:19 AM EST
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What about: "Life is a Caol Ila fountain" ?

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 07:33:51 AM EST
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Well it's frequentlas if someone under the influence is in charge

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 07:43:12 AM EST
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I'll go with that. We were playing a mammoth poker session last night and I brought out the Caol as a conciliatory gesture when we finished around midnight. Instant peace and light. Wonderful.

BTW You got the credit for introducing it into the household ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 07:56:23 AM EST
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Whenever there's a discussion on the meaning of life, The Elucidated Bretheren and Schwestern of Caol Ila seem to arrive, shining, bearing the full peat and smoke of the very Water of Life (Uisge-Beathe: Gaelic).

Tasted a very young Caol Ila (7 yrs) last nite, and was reminded that like whisky and life, age indeed ages (and rounds).

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 08:16:44 AM EST
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Are they faceless hooded figures in tartan robes who murmur tunelessly and carry cigar-cutters? I think I've seen them....

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 10:45:58 AM EST
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You should see what they do later, if you are permitted.  Not so much Eyes Wide Open, and not "what are they wearing under those Tartans," but well, have a Caol dram for me tonight.  i can't say where i'm going tonight, but hooded (sweatshirt) is hanging by the door.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:49:17 AM EST
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I'll drink a Caol Ila to all the EBSCI brothers and sisters tonight.

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:54:14 AM EST
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I have to say that I will salute one and all with an Aberlour tonight (Or at least early tomorrow).

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 12:56:28 PM EST
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Same here. Or Glenlivet

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 01:07:12 PM EST
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I'm afraid we cannot accept heretics in the EBSCI. Only those who follow the Caol Ila cult can participate...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 01:14:09 PM EST
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Since whisky is the water of life, we can assume there is a reason the language didn't evolve to Caol Ila of Life.  Elucidated Ones, we must be tolerant, and recognize that each palate is a chemical universe unto itself, and must be honored.  Though we must take the Glenfiddich wanderers from the desert, and give them the honey and dates they deserve.  i meself have a bottle of Abelour in the cupboard, if it must be known, though it dates from 1965.

Here's the riddle for tonight, Oh Elucidated Ones:  Why are the rarest single malts in Europe to be found in the cellars of Italy?

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 01:40:20 PM EST
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Fah. Whisky.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 01:41:22 PM EST
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There's a reason why it's not called the Black Bush of Life, it must be the Irish peat, or the snakes, or something.  Come Colman, you've never ridden a horse 'til you've had half a bottle first.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 01:46:13 PM EST
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I demand an initiation !

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 01:40:41 PM EST
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You can request an initiation, though the usual method of identifying new candidates can not be revealed.  Just email Carol Ila, care of LEP.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 01:47:30 PM EST
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"I never promised you a sweetened chocolate fountain."
<plagiarist>

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 07:04:43 AM EST
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What's the problem with life being a fountain?

The rabbi meant sex fountain din't he?

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 08:52:08 AM EST
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I was waiting for your insight kcurie. After 20 years I finally understand the story. It's about sex. why didn't I think of that?

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 08:58:37 AM EST
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You did, LEP, you did...

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:10:18 AM EST
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A bit less time with the Talmud and Kabbalah and you would've.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:50:47 AM EST
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LOL. And Happy New Year, Randy.
And by the way, who's this "Carol Ila" you guys are always talking about? She must be hot!

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 12:16:52 PM EST
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I'd say, she's... warm.  A wee dram and perhaps she'll come tonight.

All the best LEP, to you and your clan (and of course to all.)

Skennah Kowa

by Crazy Horse on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 01:42:15 PM EST
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She is tender and rough, subtle and coarse...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 03:54:56 PM EST
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Looks to me as if everyone living on top of mountains are just trying to be another Siddhartha Gautama. Nobody one ups Siddhartha. You have to repudiate Buddhism to get back to it. It's been done already.

So stop with these questions, okay?

by shergald on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 09:02:08 AM EST
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I was lying. The rabbi really lived in a cave; literary license you know.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 10:51:33 AM EST
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When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:12:15 AM EST
That's great. How'd you find that afew?

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:15:47 AM EST
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Google images. It's the cover of Zap Comix N° 1.

I, er, adapted it a bit...

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:24:28 AM EST
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I wouldn't have guessed. Even at 71, I'm still naive at times.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:30:25 AM EST
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Brilliantly done, afew.  i'm going to send it to a good friend, the publisher of Last Gasp Comix in SF, con su permiso.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:45:49 AM EST
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I'm flattered. I had a fairly complete collection of Zaps and others back in the day, but don't remember where they went. I always liked this particular cover.

FWIW, the lady in fact asks for the meaning of "diddy wah diddy". LIFE IS NOT DIDDY WAH DIDDY!

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 04:55:28 AM EST
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All is revealed here

there's a lot to be said for this;-

"Forty two?!" yelled Loonquawl. "Is that all you've got to show for seven and a half million years' work?"

"I checked it very thoroughly," said the computer, "and that quite definitely is the answer. I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is."

But actually Slarti Bartfast is pretty close to it here;-

always think that the chances of finding out what really is going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is to say hang the sense of it and just keep yourself occupied.... What does it matter? Science has achieved some wonderful things of course, but I'd far rather be happy than right any day ...

And that's also the answer to Jerome's point. It doesn't matter if you find out at the end it was all a waste of time, so long as you're happy along the way. The answer lies not in the arrival, but in what you learn along the way. After all, it doesn't matter once you're dead anyway, so one wild goose chase si the same as any other, after everything is a wild goose chase in that context.

After all, as they say;-

Some things in life are bad
They can really make you mad
Other things just make you swear and curse.
When you're chewing on life's gristle
Don't grumble, give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best...

And...always look on the bright side of life...
Always look on the light side of life...

For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin - give the audience a grin
Enjoy it - it's your last chance anyhow.

So always look on the bright side of death
Just before you draw your terminal breath




keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 12:19:16 PM EST
Can't help!



"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 12:29:12 PM EST
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* bows

"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles." Sun Tzu
by Turambar (sersguenda at hotmail com) on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 07:42:47 AM EST
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The computer sounds like a rabinical student to me.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 04:09:55 PM EST
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Yeah, have to agree with the lama on this one.

What is the purpose of life? I believe that the purpose of life is to be happy. From the moment of birth, every human being wants happiness and does not want to suffer. From the very core of our being we simply desire contentment.

In the Christian world (ie, The West) this is often dismissed as a non-answer, because within the Christian world view, life meaning can only come from supernatural sources.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 07:44:33 PM EST
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Nice tale, though.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden
by redstar on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 12:42:38 PM EST
Perhaps tied up in the question of the meaning of life, apparently there's a bit of a debate about whether intelligent life evolved unusually slowly on Earth.

Jonti Horner and a team from the UK's Open University have been addressing the question of whether Jupiter is our friend or foe.

Horner and his team reasoned that for a planet to be habitable over appreciable periods of time, it would have to somehow avoid impacts of extinction-level size and speed. However, smaller and slower impacts also may stop life from developing if they hit regularly enough. Despite the apocalyptic potential of asteroids and comets, Horner's research suggests we're more likely to find habitable worlds elsewhere in the galaxy. He says that the presence of a gas giant planet isn't as important as everyone thinks, and that means there is greater wiggle room in our definition of what makes a solar system habitable. He also theorizes that impacts may not always be detrimental to life -- in fact, they may be essential.

"It may be that if you have too few impacts, life will stagnate," he says. "It may even be that our Earth is not the ideal in terms of intelligent life evolving. Maybe we have too few impacts, which is why it's taken us four and a half billion years to get here."

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/home/11235301.html
by asdf on Mon Dec 31st, 2007 at 11:38:08 PM EST
asdf:
Perhaps tied up in the question of the meaning of life, apparently there's a bit of a debate about whether intelligent life evolved unusually slowly on Earth.

I think there's currently more of a question about whether intelligent life evolved at all.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 07:51:29 AM EST
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What do you want meaning for? Life is desire, not meaning!

Charlie Chaplin in Limelight

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 05:42:58 PM EST
Could a "meaningful life" be one in which you satisfied your desires?
Bonne nuit my friend.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 07:55:23 PM EST
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What if my desire is to have a meaningful life?

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Tue Jan 1st, 2008 at 08:15:45 PM EST
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Using the everyday connotation of the term "meaningful life" you are certainly living one.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 at 03:33:45 AM EST
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Frontpaged with apologies to Jérôme who doesn't understand Existentialism. Maybe he should start by reading the Ecclesiastes. Or listen to it.



We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 07:48:17 AM EST
Migu: Thanks for that. Much appreciated ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 08:04:28 AM EST
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Kudos to ManfromMiddletown for the youtube.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 08:06:10 AM EST
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A NY banker is on holiday in Mexico. One morning, he takes a fishing trip with a local boat owner, and has a great time, enjoying both the fishing and the conversation with the fisherman.

Later in the day, he sees the fisherman hanging out at the local cafe, drinking beer and talking with his friends. Later in the evening, he sees him on the beach with the same friends and wifes, playing  with their kids.

So he goes to him and asks: 'hey, I saw some friends that would like to have a fishing trip, cvan I send them your way?"
But the fisherman answers: 'oh, I'm fully booked for the week'
The banker goes: 'but I saw you at the café this afternoon'
'Yes, i work only in the morning'
'But why, you could get more money, you're offering a great, enjoyable service'
'But I don't need more money. I earn enough and can spend the afternoon enjoying my friends in the cafe and my family on the beach the rest of the day'
'But you could do so much better!'
'How?'
'Well, if you also took tourists in the afternoon, you would make at least twice as much money'
'How is that a good thing? I would not see my friends or my family'
'Well, it would be just for a while. With the added profit, you could quickly buy another boat, hire one of your friends, double the number of trips you make and, given your great service, you'd easily find more customers'
'So, I'd still be working, and making my friends work too. When would I see them?'
'Wait! Soon you'd be able to expand again, invest in a whole fleet, or bigger boats, you'd be able to take groups and cater to the cruises that come over and to tour operator'
'And?'
'Well, at some point, your company would be big enough to attract the interest of smart venture capitalists, who would be willing to invest in your company to help your grow further. You'd be a paper millionaire"
"So?"
"Well, eventually, you'd be able to float your company, cash in your hard work, and be a real millionaire!"
"And when would I see my friend"
"Well, when you've successfully invested your money, you'll  be able to do anything you really want!"
"Such as?"
"I don't know, maybe stop working, go to the beach, hang out with friends, spend time with your family"

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 08:22:51 AM EST
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Einstein joins ET but is told he has to add comments and get to know the inmates before he can post a diary.

"For instance there is this chap. He has an IQ of 180!"
"That's wonderful!" says Albert. "We can discuss mathematics!"

"And there's this lady. Her IQ is 150!"
"That's wonderful!" says Albert. "We can discuss physics!"

"And what about Sven, here. His IQ is 100!"
"That's wonderful! We can discuss the latest plays at the theater!"

"There's also this other guy, but his IQ is only 80."
Albert writes a comment to him, "So, where do you think interest rates are headed?"

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 08:41:51 AM EST
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Are you trying to tell me something with the slight distorsions to that well knonw joke?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 08:54:23 AM EST
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No - just entertaining the hoi polloi at your expense (and mine) ;-)

BTW yours is also a well-known joke. But then there ARE only 10 basic jokes unless you go the Existential route...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 08:59:33 AM EST
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You mean there are only 5 basic frames?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 10:14:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Smut and innuendo
Disrespect to members of the establishment
The absurd
The manic
The humour inherent in everyday life
The 'war' between parents/teachers and children
The British class system
The lovable rogue
The embarrassment of social ineptitude
Making fun of foreigners
Bullying and harsh sarcasm
Parodies of stereotypes
Tolerance of, and affection for, the eccentric

That's 13, but I think you can conflate some of these

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 10:24:03 AM EST
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well the British class system and the Absurd have got to conflate.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 10:47:07 AM EST
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After a venerable career of endless, stellar successes the greatest director who ever lived is in his prime and preparing for his most ambitious project ever when he unexpectedly dies and is called home to heaven. St. Peter meets him at the gate.

"So sorry about your untimely death," he tells the director. "But God himself has called you home. You see, God wants you to direct a movie for Him."

The great man is humbled, "God wants ME to direct a film?"

"Yes," St. Peter tells him. "And we've arranged to have the best of everything made available to you. For example, the script is by William Shakespeare."

The director is stunned, "An original screenplay by William Shakespeare?"

"Yes," St. Peter assures him, "And it's his greatest work ever."

"Wow!" says the Director, awe struck.

"Your Production Designer will be Michaelangelo. We've got Leonardo Da Vinci doing the sets, your musical score will be an original work by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and your cast includes a young Laurence Olivier and the greatest actors of all time in supporting roles."

The Director can't believe it. "This is incredible," he says. "This will be the greatest movie ever?"

St. Peter kind of shuffles his feet. "Well," he says, "we do have one tiny little problem."

"Problem?" says the director. "What kind of a problem?"

St. Peter puts his arm around the director's shoulder, "Ya see," he whispers, "God's got this girlfriend..."

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 09:06:34 AM EST
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Engaging in false modesty again. Sven?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 08:58:28 AM EST
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I thought the way the story ended was that the banker went and bought himself a boat and hired an impoverished fisherman to run trips both morning and afternoon, for less than half the price that the first fisherman was charging, and drove the fisherman out of business so he had to sell his boat to the banker and go to work for him, morning and afternoon.



We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 10:24:12 AM EST
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Well, my story stops at the end of the conversation. who knows what happens next? The banker might indeed see an arbitrage opportunity.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 10:34:07 AM EST
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Or should it be oarbitrage?

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 11:21:16 AM EST
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A 4 for Quoting Qohelet, one of the greatest texts ever!

And here is an excerpt relevant to the current situation:

Ecclesiastes

What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
...
And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.


"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 09:53:00 AM EST
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This wealthy retired widower, about 65, is playing 18 holes on his favorite golf course in Florida, near Miami. On the fifteenth hole he knocks a ball into the rough; walks over to uncover it so he can hit it out; bends over to clear the roughage when this frog jumps onto his hand. The frog then starts pleading, in English: "Please help me; I'm a beautiful 21 year old princess trapped in the body of a frog; If you kiss me on the lips you can free me from this fate and I'll take care of your every desire for the rest of your life." The man thinks a minute; says to the frog "let me finish this round" and puts the frog in his shirt pocket.
He finishes the round, showers in the clubhouse and gets into his car to drive home. Suddenly this little voice comes out of his shirt pocket: "didn't you forget something?" The man thought for a few seconds and replied: "you know, I thought a long time about your proposal, but to tell you the truth, I'd rather have a talking frog."


I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 10:55:10 AM EST
Soo many versions of that one. En voici une autre:

A young princess is out walking in the woods, comes across The Frog, who pleads with her, saying that he was actually a handsome prince, at one time, who had been turned into a frog by an envious witch.

"A kiss from you and I'll be returned to my human form! I'll whisk you off to my castle, over which my dear mother presides, where we'll have lots of children, you can use our fabulously equipped kitchen to cook for us. In addition, we have the most modern washing facilities in the realm! ... "

Later that night, as the princess was dining on frog legs, she murmured to herself,

"I don't think so".

by Loefing on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 02:13:28 PM EST
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A frog goes into a bank and walks up to the window. He can see from the teller's nameplate that the teller's name is Patricia Whack. So he says, "Ms. Whack, I'd like to get a loan to buy a yacht and go on a cruise." Ms. Whack asks how much money he wants to borrow. The frog says around $55,000. Ms. Whack asks the frog his name and he replies "Kermit Jagger, it shouldn't be a problem, I know the branch manager." Ms. Whack explains that $55,000 is a large sum of money and that he will need to put up something as collateral against the loan. She asks "do you have anything as collateral?" Kermit says, "Sure, I have this," and produces a small pewter cricket, about an inch tall. Stunned, Ms. Whack explains that she'll have to speak with the branch manager and walks into an office at the front of the bank. She finds the branch manager and says: "There's a frog by the named of Kermit Jagger out there who says he knows you and wants to borrow $55,000. He wants to use this as collateral." She holds up the small pewter cricket. "Like, what is this thing suppose to be?" So the branch manager looks back at her and says:

"It's a knick knack, Patti Whack. Give the frog a loan. His old man's a Rolling Stone."



I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 02:37:32 PM EST
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I like this version better:

A grad student is walking across campus from the cafeteria to the lab. Along the way he meets a frog which speaks to him in a clear voice: "I am a beautiful girl who was bewitched by an evil crone. If you kiss me the curse will be lifted and we can live happily ever after." The grad student picks up the frog and replies, "nah, I'm a grad student. I don't have time for a girlfriend, but a talking frog is cool."

The same joke can be told with a female grad student and a male frog, but in that case the punchline involves a quib about the relative scarcity of talking frogs compared to single male science grad students.

- Jake

Your representatives may not listen to you. But they do read your e-mail.

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 11:08:49 PM EST
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"What's the meaning of life?"

"Meaning of life? If life is a message, it must have a sender and a recipient, but you are only the messenger, my friend!"

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 05:40:00 PM EST
See the IMPORTANT UPDATE to this diary.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 07:24:34 PM EST
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I love your version.

I will become a patissier, God willing.
by tuasfait on Sun Jan 6th, 2008 at 09:32:44 AM EST
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Thanks LEP, for this story. Only been able to read it today. :-)

Oh, and I do like stories, so if you have more I wouldn't mind you posting them.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 7th, 2008 at 01:59:16 PM EST


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