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Kurdish questions

by talos Thu Feb 15th, 2007 at 06:10:31 AM EST

As a crackdown against the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK), the Turkish Kurd armed revolutionary organization, that Turkey (and most of the West now) considers "terrorist", seems to be (had been?) unfolding in Europe (possibly with US backing), and over 10.000 Kurds from all over Europe demonstrated recently in Strasbourg for the release of PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan... I'd like to recommend an excellent article on the Kurds, Turkey and Iraq from the NY Review of Books (titled The Uncontainable Kurds), which provides a good idea of the forces and attitudes involved in the greater Kurdistan area, forces that include Turkey, the Iraqi Kurdish leadership, the PKK (or whatever it calls itself nowadays), its Iranian Kurdish offshoot, the US, Iran and possibly Syria - not to mention assorted islamist groups, Shia and Sunni Iraqi leaders and the Iraqi insurgency/anti-occupation struggle.

The situation as it is currently unfolding doesn't seem to have a likely stable and peaceful long-term option...

From the diaries -- whataboutbob


... The problem being that the Kurds - many Kurds, I should say - all over the region, see the circumstances in Iraq as providing finally a historical opportunity for the creation of a Kurdish state (the Kurds being the largest stateless nation in the world, at possibly over 25 million). This is a development feared by Turkey, which - correctly I think- believes, that the creation of a bordering Kurdish state, will empower the more radical Turkish Kurds, and conceivably spearhead Kurdish nationalism in its Southeast. This will happen of course as long as Turkey refuses to seek a broader political solution for the Turkish Kurds. Thus, Turkey has threatened to militarily intervene in Iraqi Kurdistan. The flashpoint might turn out to be the city of Kirkuk, of which a Turkish diplomat has said:

"Kirkuk is the number one security issue and public concern right now...Kirkuk is a potential powder keg. For us it has special status. It is like Jerusalem. It belongs to all the people. We do not want to intervene in Iraq. But we have red lines - Kirkuk and attacks on ethnic minorities."

A referendum on Kirkuk's fate, is set to be held by December 2007 - although there are powerful voices calling for its postponement. Control of the area around Kirkuk would give the Iraqi Kurds possession of around 40% of Iraqi oil reserves, making a Kurdish state instantly viable - something that apparently it isn't without the Kirkuk fields.

The thing is that, indeed, the Kurdish areas of Iraq can only remain part of Iraq, if the country doesn't devolve into all-out civil war that would partition the Sunni and Shiia areas, or (more probably) make remaining within Iraq quite unattractive for the Kurds. This development however cannot be ruled out - and neither can one rule out the eventual dominance of pro-independence forces in Iraqi Kurdistan that would, at some not too distant future, opt for or threaten with full independence. This could of course ignite a renewed insurgency in SE Turkey and Iran. Especially in Turkey if the political leadership - and primarily the military who in fact run "national security" matters in Turkey - don't come to some form of viable political settlement on the Kurdish issue.

The other option would be for Iraqi Kurdistan to transform into a US protectorate, a Middle Eastern "base of operations" for the US military. This option is being actively pursued by the Kurdish leaders in Iraq. This doesn't seem probable however, given the fact that such an option would require either some sort of logistical support form Turkey (unlikely in the independence scenario) or its alienation (unlikely for geopolitical reasons). It seems to me a bit more likely that the US will suggest defining a diminished territorially and politically Iraqi Kurdistan, which would be an autonomous part of a confederate or federal Iraq (assuming that such an entity exists). If the Kurds show the required patience, this is the least bloody scenario. Otherwise the US will leave any overambitious Kurdish nationalism out to dry - at the mercy of what will be called "Turkish peacekeeping operations", or "antiterrorist actions".

In this scenario however, Turkey buries decisively its European prospects, and involves itself in a major war, facing the sum total of the Kurdish nation, including the battle-ready and relatively well-armed forces of the Iraqi Kurds, in conjunction with whatever destabilizing potential the PKK will have to offer. Turkey might then join ranks with Iran in its anti-Kurdish campaign... What would happen then is any body's guess. But one thing is certain: it would be yet another historical catastrophe for all involved.

As US withdrawal becomes inevitable (the sooner the better I say - it is quite obviously fueling the civil war, which the occupation, again obviously, ignited), the Kurds will have to develop a new strategy. Denise Natali, an Arab and Islamic scholar rightly points out that:

...[Recent] political decisions and trends are not a signal of American betrayal, but rather, a wake up call for the Kurds that US support is not obligatory, permanent, or unconditional. Despite the progress made in the Kurdistan Region and the Kurdish-American alliance, there is reason to believe that the US will assure Sunni Arab and/or Turkish nationalist interests over Kurdish ones. This possibility will become increasingly likely as the 2008 presidential elections approach, and the Iraq war - or ways to disengage from the country - becomes central to the election campaign.

Thus, just as the US is rethinking its policy on Iraq, so too, must the KRG renegotiate its strategies, alliance structures, and forms of leverage. The Kurdish elite must create a `plan B' as an alternative path to ensuring Kurdish autonomy in the long term...

...Instead of waiting for the Americans to resolve the Kurdish problem, the Kurds will have to assume a more proactive role in determining their own political survival. If these necessary preparations are not made then local populations are likely to be taken by surprise once again, although this time they will have a lot more to lose than they did 15 years ago.

This "proactive" role however, should very clearly be understood for what it entails: limited autonomy inside Iraq and "antiterrorist" campaigns with broadened cultural rights in Turkey. I fear that current expectations far exceed the realistic. Cross-posted at histologion

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Three years ago it might have been possible to make Iraq a federal state with Baghdad, Kirkuk and maybe Basra as city-states. Today, it seems bloody partition and sectarian war over Kirkuk and Baghdad are unavoidable.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 13th, 2007 at 12:44:21 PM EST
Actually, I don't think that making Iraq a federal state was feasible even then. Sunni and Shiia were not in a state of civil war (a large portion of the population would thus be against such a partition), and keeping Iraq in one piece was necessary to placate Turkey. Anyway such a partition would require some sort of referendum - and would provide Iran with an instant ally in the region.

Not to mention that the redrawing of borders and the creation of a Shiia state in Iraq, would raise the question of why, say, the shiia minority in Saudi Arabia shouldn't enjoy the same independence.

Plus there something inherently unstable about city-states. They become objects of desire for competing nationalisms too easily (and internalize interethnic tensions outside them). In the case of Kirkuk the real fuss is about the neighbouring oil-fields as much as it is about the city itself...

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Tue Feb 13th, 2007 at 12:55:17 PM EST
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Plus there something inherently unstable about city-states. They become objects of desire for competing nationalisms too easily (and internalize interethnic tensions outside them).

Case in point: Danzig/Gdańsk.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 06:03:53 AM EST
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I'm thinking about Berlin and Hamburg when I mention City States.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 06:13:02 AM EST
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OK, but given the aspirations of rival nationalisms talos mentioned, I think that parallel applies only to Basra. Danzig between the two world wars is an exact parallel to your proposal in the case of Kirkuk and Baghdad, both for the reason behind it, the imposition by the international community, and the forces that would act upon them in the future.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 06:23:54 AM EST
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If the US abandons the kurds, then they have a  ready made ally in Iran. The iranians were welcomed at the raising of the kurdish flag over kirkuk. The iranian kurds will probably be allowed to emigrate in exchange for peace.

I suspect that if turkey takes on the kurds, they'll lose and lose territory. Which will be worse for them than if they negotiate an understanding now. But I don't think the turkish govt has that much room to manoeuvre.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue Feb 13th, 2007 at 02:34:55 PM EST
Granted this would be a reversal of a long standing policy of the Turks, but what if they did a turn around and actually came out in support of an independent Kurdish state?

I think a unified Iraq is now a lost cause. What the Turks could negotiate for the Kurds would be a discount supply of oil and half control of a pipeline from Kurd-controlled Kirkuk to the Mediterranean or Europe, in exchange for recognition of the state at the least and possibly a referendum to the south-eastern part of Turkey to see where the people wanted to remain: Turkey or a new Kurdish state. Not to mention, I think the long war between Turkey and the PKK could possibly then end.

I recognize that I'm not an expert on this, but it would seem to me that Turkey would gain from a Kurdish state. I think an alliance between Turkey and a Kurdish state might be mutually strategically beneficial. But then, perhaps I am being too naïve of history and world politics?

by Magnifico on Tue Feb 13th, 2007 at 04:01:11 PM EST
for quite some time with a blind eye turned by the US would make negotiations politically difficult to say the least. Arabs and Turkmen in Kirkuk particularly but also other parts of the Kurdish enclave have been suffering very badly. The ethnic make up of Kirkuk today is probably not accurately known by anyone but it is fair to assume the Turkmen, Sunni Arabs and tiny Christian minority outnumber the Kurds. The Kurds have been busily trying to drive out as many Arabs and Turkmen as they can while importing as many Kurds as they can before referendum on the city status. Before this all started Turkey claimed there were the same amount of Turkmen as Kurds in the city and were not happy that the Iraqi national constitution described the Turkmen up there as an ethnic minority alongside the estimated 1% Christian ethnic minority.
This could be messy, but while we sit and consdier the geopolitical implications of all this we should also strongly condemn the large Kurdish ethnic cleansing operation that goes on as we talk even if our useless media and governments like to urn a blind eye to it.
by observer393 on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 01:10:43 AM EST
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This might make - to an external observer - sense. However, the idea of Serbia getting rid of Kosovo, also makes sense to an external observer - yet that's not how a majority of Serbs see it. And I do not know of any country that would willingly cede territory, anywhere in the world

In Turkey, the situation is even more complicated, since there still exists an imperial "large power" mentality and the military are calling the shots, and their role defending Turkish territorial integrity is a prime directive. Not to mention that chasing seccessionists and "antiturkish terrorists", helps legitimize their broad role in Turkish politics.

Also, note, what the Kurds in Turkey are asking for is autonomy and broad political and cultural rights - as Kurds.

Having said that, the option of giving the Kurds aytonomy and acting as some sort of "guarantor" for a new Kurdish state in N. Iraq, makes a lot of sense, but I don't see Turkish politics being versatile enough to recognize this as a win-win situation...

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 03:52:42 AM EST
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The reason why a possible win-win isn't recognized is because of fear of the unknown. Fear of a future without economic stability, of what happens when the oil is gone. Turkey is simply thinking of a future in which no one--least of all the United States--has an interest in the region. Maybe that's 100 years from now. But at that point, many Turks can envision the Kurdish problem becoming an irredentist 5th column. No one knows what the future holds, and that's why a bold move by Turkey--against its current national policy--seems so farfetched.
by Upstate NY on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 10:55:25 AM EST
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That, and the fact that the current zeitgeist seems to consider win-win resolutions of problems somehow immoral.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 10:58:08 AM EST
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Turkey reversing course is, admittedly, far-fetched.

But the uncertain future would be exactly the motivation I would need if I was Turkey to try to peacefully and strategically resolve the differences with the Kurds now. I think nations and peoples are more likely to be peaceful with each other if they have a history of mutually beneficial economic relationships. Such a relationship between Turkey and a Kurdish state could serve as a good foundation for on-going peace after the oil is gone.

I agree that Turkey is unlikely to do anything radical or bold in this area. But I think it is unfortunate that Turkey can't or isn't permitted to play a larger role in the Middle East. Because of and despite of their historic role — the Ottoman Empire — in the past, I feel they could serve an important stabilizing role in parts of the Middle East such as Kurdistan.

Again, I am likely to be way off base here with my assumptions.

by Magnifico on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 12:36:22 PM EST
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People over in that part of the world tend to take a much longer view of history. One might say this is indeed the problem, when you get right down to it. But in many ways I can appreciate and admire the long view as well.

When we're discussing degrees of power, democracy, soft force, human rights, etc., in the region, we can't forget that some countries are big, such as Turkey, and they have powerful militaries, and can defend their interests. Others, such as Syria for example, are relatively weak and have become international pariahs for their support of terrorism. However, they too believe they are defending their interests--by what they term the best means possible. So, in that sense, it's hard to see how Turkey and Syria could establish common ground. Turkey has historically seen itself as a power broker not because it is in the Middle East, but because it girds Russia and Eastern Europe, and it lies on a transcontinental root for resources. Other than providing airbases for Western militaries, Turkey really hasn't been a lynchpin in Middle East discussions.

But I will say that the new Turkish PM Erdogan is the first in many years that has aggressively sought close relations with the Arab world. In Turkey sometimes people perceive these new relationships as threats because of Erdogan's party's background with Islam.

by Upstate NY on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 03:06:03 PM EST
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Well yes, however one can argue that the possibility that the Kurds become an irredentist fifth column (a lot of them are already - if you have talked with Kurdish activists, before Ocalan's capture, outside of Turkey, you know what I mean) is made more probable by the combination of ethnic cleansing, occupation army tactics and cultural persecution that has characterized Turkey's treatment of the Kurds these past few decades. The Turkish political establishment (and the military-economic complex behind it) has only managed to exacerbate the problem by refusing to talk (indeed persecuting) even with the most peaceful of Kurdish activists.

Keeping the Kurdish issue alive as a "national threat" (by treating as treason any discussion of Kurdish human rights) is part of the way the political and military elites in Turkey perpetuate their hegemony over society. There's nothing like a permanent internal threat to justify repression, lack of democracy and military involvement in politics.    

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 06:35:31 PM EST
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I agree with both your points. Especially the second. I'm just imagining that, in terms of threats (real or perceived) the Turks prefer to deal with the PKK as it is constituted now, but they truly fear such a movement backed by a relatively strong state. Then support might come in the form of both money and arms, to a much greater degree than the PKK have now.

I agree with the idea as well that a Turkish-Kurdish friendship would suit the interest of both peoples. I'm just speculating that the fear of the future is an obstacle for Turkish thinking.

by Upstate NY on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 09:16:48 PM EST
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I'm just imagining that, in terms of threats (real or perceived) the Turks prefer to deal with the PKK as it is constituted now, but they truly fear such a movement backed by a relatively strong state.

Yes, I see what you mean... However there is a counterargument that if Turkey supports a Kurdish state in Iraq (I mean actively), given that its economy will depend on a large part on Turkey, it might come to a general arrangement, by which it grants autonomy rights to its own Kurds (and possibly apologizes for "past mistakes") and reaches some sort of agreement with the Iraqi Kurds as per not supporting secessionism. In fact were Turkey to play it smart, in an ideal world it will have an active ally in its South and stop the Kurdish insurgency inside its borders.

This is all theoretical, mind you. The current mentality (and the interests noted above), I agree with you, guarantees that no such arrangement is possible - it's not even stateable by a Turkish politician without risking some sort of judicial adventure.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Thu Feb 15th, 2007 at 06:41:06 AM EST
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That would be truly forward and amazing thinking, especially the "past mistakes" part, and of course so many nations around the world are deficient in that regard.
by Upstate NY on Thu Feb 15th, 2007 at 09:52:07 PM EST
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Damn my spelling. Root? I need a root beer.
by Upstate NY on Wed Feb 14th, 2007 at 03:19:20 PM EST
Darn! I had really hoped to promote this before it slid off the rec list..too important to let it slide...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Thu Feb 15th, 2007 at 06:11:50 AM EST


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