So what's the EU good for?

by Jerome a Paris
Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 03:59:07 AM EST

As flagged by Fran in this morning's Salon, the Independent has a list of 50 good things brought about by the EU. The list is not perfect, but it's a good start - and it makes an important point, in that we take many things that directly came from the EU for granted.

As the anniversary of the Rome Treaty is this week-end, I'd like the community to create its own list. Just post a title and a short paragraph of explanation for any issue that you think should be mentioned, and in follwoing threads we'll reconcile the whole list and order it.

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CAP - Common Agricultural Policy

Has allowed European agriculture and related industries (equipment, machinery, processed food) to survive, if not to thrive, in an increasingly globalized economy sector.

Much maligned by all sides.

Context : European farmers' activity takes place in ... Europe, ie in a context of relatively high taxes on production compared to their main competitors. Without some form of subsidy, they would have disappeared overnight, and so would have the associated industries, at a tremendous cost.

by balbuz on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:18:09 AM EST
hear hear, though it needs a lot of work to make it more slanted to family farms, not corporate eco-monsterism.

"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." Jim Hightower
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 06:05:16 AM EST
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Hear! HEar! again.  Though farm policy is a huge mess everywhere (perhaps one of the fundamental messes in the whole energy chain), at least Europe has staved off some of the worst abuses of the "Green" revolution.
by andrethegiant on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 02:43:56 PM EST
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Almost every nation in the world has some kind of agricultural support scheme and this is not necessarily a bad thing. On the CAP: it has been a good idea to provide a support scheme on a European level, but in the details the CAP has throughout its history been a notably worse system than many actual and plausible alternatives (a system of deficit payments, for instance, would have been much superior to price support). In large parts, it still is a highly skewed policy, which supports the richest farms. Therefore the CAP is a failure, and it is probably one of the largest failures the EU has produced.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:08:39 PM EST
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The unequal repartition of farm subsidies between large and small farms is documented at farmsubsidy.org :
In France the largest 30.8 per cent of farmers get 73.7 per cent of all payments.
...
In Germany the top 17.7 per cent of recipients gat 68.6 per cent of payments.

Germany has inherited the very large kholkozes from the Eastern part. The UK it seems has always had historically rather large farms. France, starting in the 30s, has tried to organize the smaller farmers in cooperatives, etc.
So the various countries do not show the same repartiton of farm subsidies between small and large farms.

To claim that the inequality of subsidies between large and small farms is a failure of the CAP is an error. The subsidies are there not to complement the farmer's income, but to permit the continuation of production in an open economy when the local producers pay more taxes than their competitors.

The other option would be to let farmers produce in an exceptional tax-free and benefit-free environment (no social security, no retirement, no VAT, no income tax, etc). I don't know that anyone has proposed such a scheme, but I'd be interested to know if farmers would object...

by balbuz on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 04:59:39 AM EST
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Making the distinction between production and income is very instructive, I think. The problem with the CAP is that it did not adapt soon enough to the changing circumstances in the market. In the 1950s the goal encouraging production was understandably paramount. However, by the early 1970s it had already become obsolete as there was more than enough production, and self-sufficiency was no longer obvious as a stand-alone goal (trade links were secure enough).

The goal of encouraging production has been obsolete ever since.

It also leads to distortionary behaviour by the EU on the world market as excess production is dumped via export subsidies. With regard to third world countries this behaviour has been grossly immoral and to some extent (export subsidies haven't been completely eliminated yet) it still is.

The United Kingdom - which historically had less concerns over the self-sufficiency of its farm production as it could guarantee secure access to its empire at all times - had a system of deficit payments before it entered the EU and quite understandably has been dismayed at the system of price support (in effect, support of excess production during most of the history of the CAP).

For the purpose of securing a 'vital' countyside and social justice, deficit payments can be equal to price support. It depends upon the level of support.

From a market POV they are far superior as they don't give a skewed incentive structure. Price support only exists/existed for a number of products where the EU needs or needed to support production in order to be competitive, it is very dirigiste in that regard. This discourages producers from branching out to other products/niches that better meet actual demand.

For securing supply, they are not as good, but the competitiveness of the price of products can also be protected by import barriers.

As you note in your other reply, price support has been largely replaced now by direct payments (it still exists, I think, for dairy and sugar and maybe a few other, smaller product markets).

However, the system of direct payments is still skewed because it depends upon historical payments made to farms during the system of price support. In some cases this still leads to large distortions of competition: a former producer of grain, which was supported, will keep on getting subsidies if he/she switches to potatoes, whereas a farmer that has always produced potatoes, which weren't supported, won't get any.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 05:17:27 AM EST
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by the early 1970s ... there was more than enough production, and self-sufficiency was no longer obvious as a stand-alone goal (trade links were secure enough).

The goal of encouraging production has been obsolete ever since.

To be honest, I see the goal of self-sufficiency becoming current again.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 05:46:34 AM EST
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You see international relations breaking down that dramatically? Such a pessimist ;-)

What I see in the future is a host of other issues vaguely related to self-sufficiency but which should be treated in their own terms (mainly thinking of the externalities of international trade).

Value-wise, the EU is still exporting as much as it is importing...

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 05:55:01 AM EST
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Value-wise, the EU is still exporting as much as it is importing...

Well, yes, mercantilism has been more or less dead since the 19th century.

I am mostly worried about energy self-sufficiency, and on agriculture not necessarily worries about international trade breaking down, but about global food scarcity through crop failures from environmental failure and lack of energy to power intensive monoculture.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 06:01:57 AM EST
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Greater energy self-sufficiency is primarily desirable in its own right because of the political baggage that comes with the current sources of supply (otherwise it is not desirable in its own right, if North Africa and the Middle East would supply us with energy generated through concentrated solar power rather than raw oil that could be more or less as sustainable as supplying our own renewable energy).

With food, this is less of a problem as it can come from everywhere where there is lots of free arable land, like Ukraine, Russia, Canada, Argentine. These areas will also benefit from (limited) global warming in terms of their agricultural production and aside of Russia, are not political liabilities.

Global scarcity might become an issue if we don't halt and reverse the preference for lots and lots of beef and the biofuel madness. Otherwise, I think this is one of the areas where Technology Will Save The Day™.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 08:02:20 AM EST
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Love it!  Yes!  Vision:  Taking climate change into account in future planning, to balance local and international needs.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 08:47:37 AM EST
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Thanks!

Note that aside of the agricultural production and outdoor recreation in areas, say, north of the 45th parallel (and the equivalent in the south) taking climate change into account won't have anything to do with beneficial side-effects. Instead, you deal with double and triple and quadruple (and so on) threats.

An example for this is biodiversity, which is threatened by global warming a bit in its own (you can say the threat is small to medium depending upon how much warming there will be). However, this relatively minor threat is multiplied exponentially by the largely human-caused fragmentation of habitats. If species can move, global warming is a threat but a threat to which many species can adapt. If they can't move, global warming will be a disaster.

It's all related!

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 09:11:52 AM EST
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Simplistically, it can be a double positive, if current African-Middle Eastern  "sunny and windy" conditions produced energy to help cut down fossil fuel abuse anywhere, creating jobs and income locally.  Cut down pollution and slow climate change?

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 12:54:16 PM EST
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True! Policies to abate climate change often (not always) have many beneficial side effects. To make sure that they do, you have to treat climate change as an issue of sustainability rather than an isolated problem.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sun Mar 25th, 2007 at 07:23:09 PM EST
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I forgot : there is now very little "price support" in the CAP, in that sense that subsidies are no longer proportional to the quantities produced. They are for the greatest part proportional to the surfaces, whatever grows on them, which makes more sense.
by balbuz on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 05:04:54 AM EST
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We also need to reassure ourselves by realising how far the river has carried the Europeans since 1957. In this world of elephants, Europe is already successfully carrying the flag of shared values such as freedom, solidarity, ­protection of the environment and development, with the European stars more easily aligned with Venus than with Mars, and with Kant being read more than Hobbes or Marx. The European integration is still the most innovative and sophisticated model of international governance, bridging supra­nationalism and the Westphalian system of sovereign nation states.

While scepticism gathers momentum in Europe, how odd it is that the EU is still the main reference point for other countries looking to integrate regionally. Take the recent report of the Asean eminent persons' group, in which these east Asian countries look for bold ideas to strengthen their integration and develop responses to cross-boundary challenges. The same can be said of the moves towards regional integration in western and eastern Africa, in central America and in South America within Mercosur.

Here lies the paradox: seen from the inside, there is a mood of doom and gloom over the coming years, whereas seen from the outside, the European integration provides a modern template for new forms of governance to face today's challenges.

As the EU celebrates its 50th birthday, the need for Europe inside and outside its borders is greater than ever. In many parts of this world, regions are looking at Europe to continue to provide a firmly anchored model for open values, a testing ground for developing new democratic solutions to face today's global challenges.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:31:26 AM EST
Maybe those on the inside need to stop ilstening to the Anglo-Saxons.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:33:56 AM EST
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The free movement of persons: the right to travel, live, work, and vote (obviously in European elections, but importantly also in local elections) freely across the union. And mobility schemes such as ERASMUS/TEMPUS/SOCRATES for students and the various ones for researchers.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:39:12 AM EST
+4 on that one. Mobility would be high, high up on my list.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:12:23 AM EST
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TEMPUS has a mobility component, but it is a broader higher-education development aid program for the former Socialist countries (Eastern Europe, CIS and Mongolia).

The EU's development aid policies are a good thing, too.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:17:43 AM EST
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To propagate stringent environmental and safety standards throughout the world: the soft power of the largest single market. See REACH.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:41:28 AM EST
is indeed one of the most ignored and unheralded aspects of what the EU does. It's been mocked relentlessly (cf the jibes about the diameter of bananas et al...) but it's been incredibly influential around the world, and in very positive ways, by pushing standards upwards, on the strength of controlling access to the largest market in the world.

And by setting a high bar, it effectively controls the standards, as meeting European requirements will mean that you can sell your products pretty much everywhere else.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 06:04:40 AM EST
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Does all the ceap crap in the 99p stores meet EU standards?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 06:07:39 AM EST
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Fro, the Independent:
13. Small EU bureaucracy (24,000 employees, fewer than the BBC)

Despite the eurosceptic claims, the number of EU officials is surprisingly small. After the scandal of 1999 when the Brussels based European Commission resigned, strict new rules were imposed on spending.

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:42:33 AM EST
18. Europe wide bans on tyrants like Robert Mugabe

Smart sanctions on the Zimbabwean President and his cronies have been negotiated through the EU and prevent those on a list from visiting all 27 nations. Though countries differ in the way they believe the EU should treat the government in Harare, they all agreed to renew the sanctions for another year.

Yesterday I was at a political meeting and people were suggesting Britain had the right policy towards Mugabe but France was undermining it. What's the story with that?

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:44:08 AM EST
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Yes, what IS up with that? It's interesting that, by my count, all but three of these 50 points have to do pretty much only with Europe. My frustration with Europe and the EU has been that it's been so cautious and deferential to you-know-who the past six years, even in places like Africa that the U.S. would be happy to give over to the Europeans' sphere of interest. Europe is doing just great, thank you, but the rest of the world is going to Hell in a handbasket.
by Matt in NYC on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 07:06:53 PM EST
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More stuff the British should be made aware of...
34. Regional development fund has aided the deprived parts of Britain

Some of the UK's poorest regions have benefited from massive handouts from the EU which has been used to regenerate some of the country's most run-down areas. Scotland's Highland and Islands have benefited enormously as have the Welsh mining valleys, Cornwall and deprived inner cities like Liverpool.

Meanwhile, today in the press "Brown seeks to reassure The City with his last budget". It's not even London [don't get me started about the olympics], it's The City that the British government cares about.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:46:48 AM EST
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42. EU gives more, not less, sovereignty to nation states

Switzerland and Norway, two independent countries have little or no negotiating leverage when they deal with the EU. In fact they have less sovereignty than member states who decide the policy. Britons are more able to control their own destiny - in areas from international trade, to environmental protection, to consumer rights - because they are part of a 27 nation, democratic bloc. Real sovereignty, rather than theoretical sovereignty, is enhanced by EU membership.



"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:48:08 AM EST
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Ahh ... the message/point that you and Jerome beat me up on ... Thank you.

Blogging regularly at Get Energy Smart. NOW!!!
by a siegel (siegeadATgmailIGNORETHISdotPLEASEcom) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 09:15:56 AM EST
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  1. The CHARTER OF FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION

  2. A  new model of relationship between countries based on "shared sovereignty", which is the only way to be able to tackle global problems.

  3. A new way for the promotion of democracy and human rights.

  4. European Tribune

Your question reminded me of this story posted by Kos on DailyKos in 2004. Excerpt:

"The new EU constitution, currently being considered by the member states... should also serve as an inspiration to progressives around the world. It bars capital punishment in all 25 nations and defines such things as universal healthcare, child care, paid annual leave, parental leave, housing for the poor, and equal treatment for gays and lesbians as fundamental human rights... It is the first governing document that aspires to universality, with rights and responsibilities that encompass the totality of human existence on Earth."

And this comment:

"On the whole, the EU constitution is a remarkable document and should it be ratified would be watershed in human history"


"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:53:58 AM EST
We regularly see Americans here saying information from outside the US needs to get in, but I say that Europeans need to hear more about Europe from US progressives who like Europe and its social model to balance the neocon propaganda that has all but convinced our elites that Europe is doomed.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:05:44 AM EST
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That 4 definitely gets a 4.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 07:10:05 AM EST
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What can be more emblematic of European aspirations than the elimination of systematic border controls? There may be other achievements that are more significant, but in a global context this has to be the most unique.

██ Implementing countries ██ Members (not yet implemented) ██ Expressed interest in joining

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:06:51 AM EST
So Andorra, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Monaco and the Vatican have expressed interest in joining the Schengen agreement, but not UK?

"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:30:09 AM EST
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Don't get me started again ...
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:32:13 AM EST
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And Switzerland!

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:47:02 AM EST
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Switzerland is joining.

How long until they join the EU, I wonder? They already pay hundreds of millions into the budget.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:15:41 PM EST
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"pay millions into the budget"
Huh?
The EU as a racket?
Just curious.

La répartie est dans l'escalier. Elle revient de suite.
by lacordaire on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 06:29:37 PM EST
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Switzerland pays money as a contribution to various programmes in which they partake (for instance, the ERASMUS programme, the framework science programme, etcetera). In addition, it may have to pay for access to the internal market under the bilateral agreements and under the agreement between the European Free Trade Association and the EU.

I didn't find any precise figures (curiously enough) but I think it is between 300 million and 600 million a year. Switzerland recently agreed to pay an extra 125 million a year to support Eastern Europe.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 07:27:26 PM EST
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Nanne, Thanks for the answer.
In the meantime  I have  read that Norway also pays signifaicant amount of Money to the EU.

La répartie est dans l'escalier. Elle revient de suite.
by lacordaire on Sun Mar 25th, 2007 at 03:39:17 PM EST
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The translation business is booming - never again will a translator who knows at least two European languages have to go unemployed!

I dunno, I'm mostly happy with what I see on that list and what's already been mentioned in this thread.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:23:35 AM EST
I know quite a few more than "two" European languages, but I would have starved to death the past ten years if I couldn't read Japanese. I have subcontracted a few Swedish-to-English jobs (tack så mycket!) but for the most part these jobs are limited to EU nationals.

And don't get me started about governments and companies using home-made EuroEnglish to try to communicate with Americans!

by Matt in NYC on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 07:55:22 PM EST
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Well -- this might not last that long.  Automatic translation devices (for both written text and speech) are becoming stronger with almost literally each passing day.

Expect serious deployment of personal speech translation devices in the coming decade.  Need to go make a long bet on that.

Blogging regularly at Get Energy Smart. NOW!!!

by a siegel (siegeadATgmailIGNORETHISdotPLEASEcom) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 09:19:07 AM EST
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Well, I was being snarky, but in all seriousness, I was under the impression that much of the translation work is automated to quite a large degree already (that is, you run it through translation software and then have a human translator look it over), at least when it comes to EU paperwork, of which there is quite a bit. I could be wrong.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 09:28:15 AM EST
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I rather have the impression that still much of it is done by somewhat disinterested general-purpose translators who don't bother to ask around what the translated text really means, and thus often translate words assuming the wrong sense.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 09:48:40 AM EST
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As someone doing translation of technical texts, I don't agree. It's not that I'd think machines are incapable of this job per se, but that teaching them the intricaties of the language use of one technical field would take a not insignificant time of one of the few people now doing such work, longer than doing a couple of translations on his own.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 09:47:01 AM EST
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The European Parliament (and the Council of Europe parliamentary assembly) are the only European political bodies to have investigated the CIA Flight/Prison scandal. Too bad the states retain too much sovereignty and these continental parliaments have no subpoena powers nor can they get around the "national security" excuse.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:24:11 AM EST
T.R. Reid's "The United States of Europe" also makes an important point about the EU in international organisations: when the EU members get their act together and coordinate, they have 27 votes in any voting body. Nothing to sneeze at. When they do manage to agree on a common stance, that is.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm (michael<-at->sturmbaum.net) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 05:35:05 AM EST

Aquaducts?

"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 06:51:42 AM EST
Spreading best practice across the Union: there's a lot of good Irish law that would never have been instituted in we weren't in the EU. Anti-discrimination, consumer rights, labour rights, human rights, etc.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 07:20:30 AM EST
The President, Mary McAleese, has said that the Irish Saint Columbanus would be a very appropriate choice as a patron saint of the European Union.

The President was speaking on a visit to the monastery St Columbanus founded in Bobbio in Northern Italy.

The idea of making St Columbanus a co- patron saint of the EU was first raised by Archbiship Sean Brady at an Irish Bishops conference in Rome last year (RTÉ)


That's what we need: patron saints.

On the other hand, it's a good name ...

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 07:55:56 AM EST
The eu has the potential to offer balance to a world currently dominated by the US- to act as a counterweight to McWorld.

If it will.

-cultural complexity instead of cultural conformity,

-Tolerance in values, economic organization and social organization instead of lockstep Neoliberal BS,

The Arch de Triumph sits on one end of the Avenue de la Grande Armee. At the other end, in La Defense (where Jerome hangs out these days)is another arche- the Arche
de la Fraternity. A lovely triumph of soaring architecture.
Among many marvels to do with the EU, it contains several floors in the top that are dedicated to a tableau- a discussion of Europe an entity. When I first went there, about 16 years ago, the discussion was about  "exclusion". Exclusion from good drinking water. From educational opportunities, from adequate power grid structure, clean air, political freedom,etc. etc.
Maps, friends. Wonderful worldwide maps of everything- fences, water pipes, educational access, nutrition-- and all in six languages.

The next discussion was about 'The talents and conscience of Europe". Superb portrait photography and bio data on the best minds in Europe, and their contributions.

This is a European gift to the world. Already real, it can grow.

Balance. Napoleon's ego on one end, -- cooperation, synergy, and potential beyond measure on the other.

Lastly, the EU has the potential to teach- to help my country grow up.

If it will.

Grabbing what you can, as John Ruskin said, isn't any less wicked when you grab it with the power of your brains than with the power of your fists.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:13:34 PM EST
All this is under attack from neoliberals, homegrown and imported. The left dropped the guard and I don't see it perking up.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:46:50 PM EST
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I still have my copy of Jeremy Rifkin's The European Dream: How Europe's Vision of the Future Is Quietly Eclipsing the American Dream (published in 2004) in a position of honor on my desk, but more and more it's seeming about as relevant to current affairs as Thomas More's Utopia (published in 1516).

Truly, except for Zapatero winning the election in 2004, I can't think of anything positive (for the rest of the world at least) that's come out of Europe this century.

by Matt in NYC on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 08:07:45 PM EST
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Monty Python!

The Mighty Boosh!

Olivetti typewriters!

Microwave technology!

Cambridge amps!

eltax speakers!

My sofa and my armchair!

The table I'm sitting at and the chair I'm sitting on!

Einstein!

John Cale!

Medecins Sans Frontiers!  (Apologies for my lack of accents.)

Médecins Sans Frontières was created in 1971 by a small group of French doctors, as an aftermath of the Biafra secession. The organization is known in most of the world by its French name or simply as MSF, but in the United States the name Doctors Without Borders is often used instead.

MSF is governed by an international board of directors located in Geneva, Switzerland, and organized into 20 sections. Annually, about 3,000 doctors, nurses, midwives and logisticians are recruited to run projects,[1] but 1,000 permanently employed staff work to recruit volunteers and handle finances and media relations. Private donors provide about 80% of the organization's funding, while governmental and corporate donations provide the rest, giving MSF an annual budget of approximately USD 400 million.[2]

The organization actively provides health care and medical training to populations in more than 70 countries, and frequently insists on political responsibility in conflict zones such as Chechnya and Kosovo. Only once in its history, during the 1994 genocide in Rwanda, has the organization called for a military intervention.

MSF received the 1999 Nobel Peace Prize in recognition of its members' continuous effort to provide medical care in acute crises, as well as raising international awareness of potential humanitarian disasters. Dr. James Orbinski, who was the president of the organization at the time, accepted the prize on behalf of MSF. Prior to this, MSF also received the 1996 Seoul Peace Prize. [1] The current president of MSF is Christophe Fournier, M.D..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9decins_Sans_Fronti%C3%A8res



Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 08:39:44 PM EST
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Sorry, they were all last century.  This century, I suppose there's some mobile phone technology out of Finland, lossa high-tech out of Germany.  I assume the europeans are leaders in wind-energy tech. (?), there's wave-energy tech being developed off the coast of Scotland....

It's just one big planet!  If you mean politically, I'd be interested to know which politicians in the period 2000-2007 have demonstrated

a) An understanding of the real issues facing those they represent (in their skin I mean)

b) The abilities necessary to mediate effectively on behalf of those humans

c) Bring the area they represent into greater prosperity, happiness, freedom from illness, destitution, hunger, alienation, etc....  (the global happiness quotient)

I think the last winner was Norway, closely followed by Iceland...  Somewhere up north where it's cold and people seem to have learned to live together without resorting to organised violence (though someone's recent diaries and the situation in Denmark....ach....so much world and so much going on!)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 08:44:27 PM EST
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And apologies for any snarkiness of tone, you just sent my mind a-reeling, thinking yes, what have the europeans given the world recently?  Lossa bad, yes, lossa bad all over coming from every angle.  But on the positive side, I wondered....and those are my first impressions.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 08:45:56 PM EST
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And I think I should add, for the sake of truth, I mean because it suddenly occured to me that the following did, indeed come out of the 21st Century:

The Mighty Boosh!

(My) Cambridge amp!

(My) eltax speakers!

(My sofa and my armchair may have been on the cusp, but I think they're 21st Century--just.)

(And John Cale is, of course, still the re-inventive chap he ever was, so any of his works from after 1999 count, I think.)

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 08:49:32 PM EST
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From the medecins sans frontiers site:

Bangkok/New York/Geneva - The international medical humanitarian organization Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) today denounced Abbott Laboratories' decision not to market its new medicines in Thailand.

The Chicago-based multinational pharmaceutical company has cited Thailand's use of compulsory licenses as a reason for taking the drastic measures. MSF notes that the use of compulsory licenses to improve access to essential medicines is consistent with international laws, and is concerned that patients will bear the brunt of Abbott's harsh decision.

Among the drugs the company is refusing to sell in Thailand is the new, heat-stable version of the medicine lopinavir/ritonavir (LPV/r), marketed by Abbott as Kaletra. The drug is a vital component of treatment for a growing number of people living with HIV/AIDS who no longer respond to their first set of medications.

In the US, Abbott no longer sells the old version of the drug, which requires refrigeration. The company will continue to sell it in Thailand, though, where tropical temperatures make it highly impractical to use.

"Our patients in Thailand, who still use the old version of the medicine, have been waiting for this new version for a very long time," said Dr. David Wilson, of MSF in Thailand. "The drug was registered in the US in October 2005, but still cannot be used in Thailand and many other countries where it is desperately needed. Refusing to sell the drug here is a major betrayal to patients."

MSF currently provides treatment to more than 80,000 people living with HIV/AIDS in over 30 countries. In one MSF project in Khayelitsha, South Africa, 20 per cent of patients needed to be switched to a second-line regimen after being on treatment for five years. While the needs for second-line regimens are likely to increase in the coming years, medicines used for second-line therapy are mostly unavailable or unaffordable in developing countries.

These are our problems.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 08:55:08 PM EST
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All that stuff is so last-century, rg.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 02:00:43 AM EST
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I think most people, Rifkin included, misunderestimated the effect that the end of the Cold War, the "end of history", the neoliberal consensus, globalisation and postmodern politics would have on Europe. Rifkin risks becoming obsolete and starts to sound quaint not because of what happened since his book was published but because of what happened over the last 15 years, which started to manifest itself only recently.

Maybe the Bush regime and the post-9/11 world order have acted as catalysts. They certainly catalysed Blair going insane and Aznar showing his true face, as well as emboldening the neoliberal spin machine which now has global reach.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 02:14:29 AM EST
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March 25 marks the 50th anniversary of the Treaty of Rome, which created what we now call the European Union. Although its members have much to celebrate, the future is hardly secure.

Europe is aging rapidly, and the bill for helping the elderly will be huge. Yet economic growth remains fairly sluggish, labor productivity problematic, and competition generally feeble. Rigid laws and regulations make it hard to create, change, and eliminate jobs. Finally, inefficient state services command a large share of national wealth in all EU countries, and governments employ a large part of their populations. The articles in this special collection offer possible solutions to these economic difficulties.

(by email. I'm sure it's somewhere on their website but I won't bother to link)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 04:22:20 PM EST
A few to add:

Cooperation

The EU has normalised the idea of not just living at peace with neighbouring states but actively seeking common solutions where these are beneficial. It has enabled politicians to stop thinking all the time about the impact decisions will have on the relative power of their state vis a vis other European states and to start thinking more freely about what policies would be best for their citizens.

The Rule of Law

In order to be a member of the European Union a country needs to have institutions that guarantee the rule of law. The strong doctrine of the ECJ on the necessity of effective implementation of European legislation has empowered national judiciaries, giving them a powerful instrument for controlling the legality of national legislation. The requirement that EU states have to submit to the European Treaty on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms further reinforces the rule of law. (The treaty is part of a different cooperative structure including the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights)

(thinking of more)

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 06:35:35 PM EST
Peace between old enemies perhaps?

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by A swedish kind of death on Wed Mar 21st, 2007 at 08:34:46 PM EST
That is, after all, point number 1:

1. The end of war between European nations

While rows between England, France and Germany have been a feature of EU summits, war between Europe's major powers is now unthinkable. The fact that the two world wars that shaped the last century now seem so remote is, in itself, tribute to a visionary project that has permanently changed the landscape. As the EU celebrates the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Rome it is clear that while the detailed topography will always be difficult to agree, it is an extraordinary achievement that we are standing on common ground.

But, this could be greatly strengthened as a comment, even making it as 51+.  In that the EU has exported peace into areas transitioning from autocratic rule toward/into democracies. The EU has been a major contributor to international peace through its expansion.  And, writ large, the EU does not get enough credit for this important role in aiding the path toward a more peaceful world.


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by a siegel (siegeadATgmailIGNORETHISdotPLEASEcom) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 09:22:03 AM EST
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Vive l'Europe, longue vie à l'Union européenne. Européens : vous êtes mes frères.

A moving tribute (in French) - from his great uncles dead in Verdun to his wife met in another country thanks to Erasmus and now able to live and work in France without having to wait at the Préfecture for the petty administrative authorisations other foreigners still need.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Mar 22nd, 2007 at 03:33:07 AM EST
A big part of the reason why we're in London now is that coming from the US, the UK was one of only 3 EU-15 countries that allowed nationals of the new member states to work without restrictions. Thanks, EU and Britain and shame on you, Germany, France, Italy or Spain.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Mar 23rd, 2007 at 05:52:45 AM EST
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