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by kcurie
Lately I have been feeling that I had nothing really new to say.
Today at long last I have something. It is about nukes.. and (MAD) Mutual Assured Destruction doctrine)..and other "crazy Cheney stuff". Go there.. and follow me if you wish. From the diaries (with slight edit) by afew
As you may have been hearing lately, the US wants a missile shield system in Poland...
As you may imagine it is directed at Russia, unless you live in wonderland and think that this is about Iran. The imaginary (or symbolic universe) that it is coming out of Washington is: "we are really that close... that close to get a shield and then we will be able to nuke everyone we want with no retaliation". As you may guess any other thing that is not-MAD is really mad, except for a complete destruction of nuclear warheads... which does not seem possible... The only reason we have a peaceful inter-state world (in terms of wars between countries 2005-2007 make a new low... reaching the incredible number 2 or 3 counting Iraq) is because we have MAD without the cold war (violence within states is another matter). The first salvo of this kind of no-MAD nonsense came from a Foreign Affairs article:
Well... this is bollocks...as can be shown here:
If you like more detail discussion I want to direct you to russianforces.org. The evidence that the Russian strategic nuclear force has not deteriorated is huge... go to the links in the webpage for the details. While Russia has been always a bit behind on submarine strategic missiles and somehow clearly behind strategic aerial bombing.. the present 12 nuclear submarines updated with standard SS25 and the Tupolev 160 is more than enough to be almost even with the US capability in any realistic scenario. And more to the point, the new mobile SS27 with diversion tactics.. and the new programs with early diversion tactics (read about it.. not found the link) make the US missile shield absolutely useless. The only real way to stop Russia from annihilating the US would be, not only to destroy all the 12 submarines in a first strike..vand all the air-force bases with strategic planes.. they would also have to find and localize all the SS27 (together with the more standard silos that probably may get replaced with updated low-rate failure delivery systems)... how in hell are they going to do that? And what has Poland to do with it... maybe it has nothing to do with defense shields but with some airstrike ability I am not aware of.. Or is it just because they feel confident that they can indeed shield the US from the Silo-IBCMs with this system and that after all 7 o 8 bombs from an SS27 is not that big deal... but what would the US do if Russia gets 50 SS27?... or 100 specially if the US gets the missile up there? Is it just to make money from an arms race? I put the missile shield.. you have to develop the SS27.. you develop the SS27 I have to justify another big design.. and then Russia can put in place the SSXX (whatever new number) with the new delivery systems... In any case, Russia is now at least even and probably ahead in the complete delivery system, contrary to what Foreign Affairs claim... Actually, if Russia would have the standard USSR air forces that it dismantled regarding airstrike capability the only way the US could hit Russia would be from the submarine superiority....and still. Right now.. if there is a technological arms race, Russia is 10 years ahead.. minimum.. is the US playing with the brute force air-strike idea? Place to discuss...I would really love to hear your feelings and your data... and do not forget.. have a look at russianforces.org/ UPDATE -from Migeru regarding the SS-30 :
UPDATE II - from ElcoB regarding the MIRV system deployment in RIA Novosti - Russia - Russia to deploy fixed-site Topol-M ICBMs by 2010 -SMF cmdr.:
UPDATE III From Dodo on how the SCMB delivery system improved thanks to a completely different technology: cavitation, which allows submarines to attack and provide countermeasures given them time to at least launch one nuclear warhead or even put a nuclear head on them.... There you go: VA-111 Shkval - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thanks for all the info down int he comments.... I felt that this diary was incomplete without them... |
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Let's play nukes | 78 comments (78 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
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