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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:26:32 AM EST
Malta and Cyprus to get green light for 2008 switch to euro - EUobserver.com
Two Mediterranean islands - Malta and Cyprus - are expected to get a green light for joining the 13-strong eurozone next January, with both the European Commission and European Central Bank likely to give a positive evaluation this Wednesday (16 May).

"Malta has sufficiently converged towards EU levels according to the criteria set in the EU treaty to adopt the euro on January 1, 2008," writes a draft commission report seen by the Times of Malta, suggesting the same applies for Cyprus.

The positive verdict on the candidates readying to enter the currency union is foreseen following last week's report by the EU executive, which stated that the economic criteria in both countries are within the eurozone's limits.

According to the commission's spring forecast, Cyprus (777,000 inhabitants) will record inflation of 1.3 percent and Malta (400,000 inhabitants) of 1.4 percent which is below the required threshold. Both countries' budgetary deficits are also below the 3 percent limit.

The 2006 public debt figure of 63.5 percent of GDP in Cyprus is higher than the EU's 60 percent limit but it is on a downward path and set to pose no problem. Similarly, Malta had a debt of 66.5 percent of GDP last year with a clear tendency to fall further.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:28:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Here, here to the expanding Empire.

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by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1@msn.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 03:18:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Define 'Empire'.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 03:19:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yurp.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 03:32:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
A reasonable place to start: Empire.

------------------------------ Rutherfordian RDRutherford
by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1@msn.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:10:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
From the list of empires at the bottom of that article:
The concept of the `Eurosphere' or `European Empire' has grown in popularity in the early years of the 21st century, and is associated with the public intellectual, Mark Leonard, the academic at the University of Oxford, Jan Zielonka, and the strategist and European Union Director-General for Politico-Military Affairs, Robert Cooper.

With the expansion of the European Union, and the constitution of a more assertive European Security and Defence Policy, the European Union's eastern frontiers have moved deep into Eastern Europe, meaning the European Union now has new relationships and neighbours in Central Asia. Indeed, this new region is described as the `European Neighbourhood' by the European Union, or the `Eurosphere' by Mark Leonard. The European Commission's `Action Plans' with countries in such areas attempt to induce domestic reform, and lock such countries into a structural relationship with Brussels, giving the European Union considerable leverage over their domestic and international relations.

Note that "the neutrality of the article is disputed" with no explanation in the talk page.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:14:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thanks, I don't see the "disputed" statement there now.


------------------------------ Rutherfordian RDRutherford
by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1@msn.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:19:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Huh? It's at the very top, in a pink box.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:11:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry, no pink box for me.
Maybe your cache?

------------------------------ Rutherfordian RDRutherford
by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1@msn.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:34:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]
There is apparently an on-going Wikiwar on this, with participants not bothering much with clashing it out in the discussion board...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed May 16th, 2007 at 08:58:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The article was created less than a week ago by the user that has basically written the entire article, and the notice was added by an anonymous user. To judge by his (not so numerous) other contributions he's associated with the Henry Jackson Society.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 16th, 2007 at 09:10:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I mean the author seems to be associated with the HJS, which seems to be Blairite.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 16th, 2007 at 09:14:02 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Good catch.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed May 16th, 2007 at 09:20:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
So the Neocons are busy seeding think tanks at European university campuses. What is the other side doing.

Er... wait, what other side?

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 16th, 2007 at 09:30:56 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Please.

Scholars debate about what exactly constitutes an empire

...so it's on you to define what sense you use. At any rate, not this:

Generally, they may define an empire as a state that extends dominion over areas and populations distinct culturally and ethnically from the culture/ethnicity at the center of power. Other definitions may emphasize economic or political factors. The term generally implies military hegemonic power.

...because member states adopting a joint currency is neither dominion of one state over a culturally/ethnically different area (which one would it be? Belgium? Flanders? France? Alsace? Germany?), nor has a single center of power, nor is any military hegemonic power involved. (Both Malta and Cyprus have Britisah military bases, but Britain won't join the Euro any time soon...)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 01:49:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well thanks to Migeru:
Eurosphere.
"     The postmodern, European answer to threats is to extend the system of co-operative empire ever wider. "I have no way to defend my borders but to extend them", said Catherine the Great--and the European Union sometimes seems to be saying the same.     "

--Robert Cooper, 2003
"     But the next wave of European transformation is only just beginning. The European Union is starting to develop an enormous sphere of influence, extending way beyond its borders, that could be called the "Eurosphere". This belt of eighty countries covering the former Soviet Union, the Western Balkans, the Middle East, North Africa, and Sub-Saharan Africa accounts for 20 per cent of the world's population.     "

Sure adopt a currency or "dollarize" a country but then why all the requirements if not to dictate over others from Brussels. And tell me how the new members will be able to influence monetary policy? Or did they give up some of that autonomy?

------------------------------ Rutherfordian RDRutherford

by Ronald Rutherford (rdrradio1@msn.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:24:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Who do you think "dictates from Brussels", if not representatives of the member states?
And tell me how the new members will be able to influence monetary policy?
When a country joins the EU their Central Bank becomes part of the European System of Central Banks. Monetary policy is set by the Eurosystem, which is a collegiate system of the national central banks. So, again, monetary policy is set "from Frankfurt" but by representatives of the Eurozone central banks.

Of course the EU member states gave up some of their autonomy. But they also gained co-decision power. That's the whole point. It's called cooperation.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:08:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
We can debate Leonard's thesis another time, but what does this have to do with the issue at hand? Malta and Cyprus are EU members, not outside its borders.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed May 16th, 2007 at 08:52:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Sarkozy woos Socialist politicians for cabinet jobs | Special reports | Guardian Unlimited
France's rightwing president-elect, Nicolas Sarkozy, has irked his opponents and surprised supporters by courting leftwing politicians for top positions in his cabinet.

Mr Sarkozy, who delivered rousing campaign speeches promising to "liquidate" the leftwing heritage of the student protests of May 1968, believes that bringing Socialist figures into his government would answer criticisms that he is divisive and enable him to push through his economic reforms.

As Mr Sarkozy planned his cabinet from a hunting lodge near the palace of Versailles, it emerged that he had approached senior Socialist figures to become foreign minister, including Bernard Kouchner, the former doctor who founded the relief agency Médecins Sans Frontières.

Article continues Mr Kouchner, 67, served as UN governor in Kosovo from 1999-2001 and styles himself as an outspoken champion of human rights. A former Socialist health minister, he was one of the rare French politicians who spoke out in favour of military intervention in Iraq in 2003, saying he was against war but also against Saddam Hussein's regime.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:28:47 AM EST
[ Parent ]
he was one of the rare French politicians who spoke out in favour of military intervention in Iraq in 2003, saying he was against war but also against Saddam Hussein's regime.

<speechless>...

Is this Sarko policy a death kiss for the Socialists? Splitting away the centrists from the party, and killing any campaign strategy they could have had (had they not engaged in infighting instead) for the assembly elections?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 03:19:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I think Mr Sarkozi should invite the best French to the post of foreign affairs minister - Mr Andre Glucksman. He is much better than Mr Kuchner, mediocre apparatchik. I just read his interview in El Pais and remember he also supported toppling of Saddam regime. Impeccable views for new French foreign policy.  
by FarEasterner on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:08:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Was that a snark?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:21:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Kouchner has always been more interested by his personal prospects than by those of the left. He is genuinely popular from his earlier work with Médecins sans frontières, and his outspokenness on societal issues, but he is not a loyal lefty.

His call before the first round for an alliance between Bayrou and Royal as "the only chance" to defeat Sarkozy was widely seen as a torpedo against her to force the PS to "modernize" (i.e. move right).

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:16:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Olivier Roy in the New York Times: Friend or Faux?

Dreux, France -- NICOLAS SARKOZY, who will take over the presidency from Jacques Chirac tomorrow, has often been dubbed by the left in France as "Sarkozy the American." His victory has also been greeted in American conservative circles as an unprecedented break with the "French disease" (welfare state, 35-hour workweek, national arrogance, anti-Americanism, etc.).

Certainly, Mr. Sarkozy is pro-American and anti-bureaucracy and has no problem with hobnobbing with the rich, as shown by his luxury (and very short) vacation on a billionaire's yacht in Malta after his election. He also repeatedly claims that he will make a clear break with Mr. Chirac's policies.

But feelings and gestures don't make a policy. And there is no neoconservative or Thatcherist revolution in sight for France.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:11:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The amusing thing is that so far the pattern looks quite clear.

In order to balance any popularity issues that may occur with his economic change agenda, Sarkozy plans to placate the populace by striking popular poses on matters such as immigrants and foreign policy.

This of course will disappoint some in "American conservative circles" as bashing Bush is likely one of the popular poses Sarkozy will need to adopt to undertake this strategy.

That this strategy is itself the strategy of "American conservative circles" (foreign policy as a distraction from domestic giving to the rich) seems to pass unnoticed.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:44:00 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Portugal pushes for June treaty deal- EUobserver.com
As incoming EU presidency in the second half of this year, Portugal has made it clear that if there is no significant agreement on a new treaty in six weeks time, it will put the issue on the political back burner for its six month tenure of the bloc.

Portuguese prime minister Jose Socrates said that Berlin, as current EU presidency, will have to secure a "precise mandate" during the EU leaders summit on 21-22 June, otherwise Lisbon would not continue individual negotiations with member states.

He made the announcement after an informal meeting over the weekend in the Portuguese town of Sintra including German chancellor Angela Merkel and European Commission president Jose Manuel Barroso to assess the state of play on the treaty negotiations.

While appearing to up the public pressure for a deal, Mr Socrates' words dovetail with Germany's own policy of trying to get as much agreed at the summit as possible.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:29:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Can someone (Torres?) say what is to be expected of the Socrates government as EU Council President?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 03:21:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]
America pleads for passenger details to be handed over 'to stop terror attacks' | the Daily Mail

America will plead with MEPs to allow passengers' detailed personal information to be handed over to help prevent terror attacks.

U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff says that data gathered about airline passengers arriving in the U.S. can be crucial to prevent feared terrorist strikes.

Chertoff is pushing a new deal with the European Union that would give American law enforcement agencies continued access to information gathered about European passengers on U.S.-bound flights.

The current interim deal expires in July, and the European Parliament wants a new agreement with better data protection standards.

Chertoff will address the EU assembly's civil liberties committee.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:32:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
We should e-mail the civil liberties committee about this:
American officials, citing the number of terror plots in Britain involving Britons with ties to Pakistan, expressed concern over the visa loophole. In recent months, the homeland security secretary, Michael Chertoff, has opened talks with the government here on how to curb the access of British citizens of Pakistani origin to the United States.
To which we variously reacted thus:
Migeru: Didn't we (the EU 15), in the last 6 years:
  • change our passports
  • agree for our airlines to give the US government our personal data
  • agree that the new EU member states don't get visa waivers
in order to preserve the visa waiver?

Colman: Oh, I'm just going to love hearing the rationale for allowing our dear, dear partners in the US stigmatise and discriminate against hundreds of thousands of EU citizens on the basis of their origin. ... The waiver programme needs to go at this point: once they start choosing classes of EU citizens on the basis of their ethnic origin it becomes completely unacceptable.



Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 02:05:43 AM EST
[ Parent ]
America will plead with MEPs

Oh, crap, this already happened:

Jurist: Chertoff presses airline data-sharing in EU meeting (Monday, May 14, 2007)

US Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff met with the European Parliament Civil Liberties Committee [official website; meeting materials (Agenda No 3)] Monday in his latest bid to convince the EU to allow the transfer of detailed information regarding passengers on US-bound flights to all relevant US government agencies. The current interim deal, which expires in July, allows up to 34 pieces of data, including names, addresses, travel itineraries, and credit card information, to be transferred to the US Customs and Border Protection Agency within 15 minutes of a flight's departure from an EU member state. The information may only be disseminated to other law enforcement agencies if the agencies have data security standards as stringent as those of the EU. Chertoff argued that information gathered from passengers must be available to agencies that do not meet data security standards if the need arises.


Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 02:30:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Chertoff argued that information gathered from passengers must be available to agencies that do not meet data security standards if the need arises.

And thus it will happen because "needs" are not fickle creatures when in uncontrolled bureaucrats' hands.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:20:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]
"Needs must when the devil drives."

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:30:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Not necessarily if we send a forceful letter to the EP committee.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:12:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
They'll just label us as leftists and round us up and shoot us in advance of the 2010 G8 meeting.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 09:49:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Get out of your comfort zone, already!

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 09:52:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Also from Jurist: Europe court strikes down US-EU airline passenger records deal (Tuesday, May 30, 2006)
The transatlantic deal would have limited the amount of data that the US can collect from European airlines, and only allowed the US to store the information to fight terrorism and other serious crimes for three and a half years. US officials have threatened to fine European airlines up to $6,000 per passenger if it does not disclose the passenger data, potentially causing European airlines to lose customers to US airlines who will continue to hand over passenger information to US officials. European airlines will still hand over the passenger information until September, while the European Commission determines whether another legal basis exists for its finding that US protection of the data is adequate.
Okay, what are the penalties for violating the EU's data protection legislation? The US airlines who continue to hand over passenger information to US officials should be prosecuted or fined.

The alternative everyonr forgets to mention is to give up the visa waiver program. You want to go to the US? Get a visa.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:24:38 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Personally I like the idea that the US are pleading for this info. Like the reality isn't that they walk into a room and say "Give this to us ....NOW !!!" and our esteemed Dear Leaders don't jump up and say "Yessir !!"

Exactly what have the yanks ever demanded, however unreasonable that we have denied them ? Even the war in Iraq was supported with unreasonable rendition and torture.

It's just unusual to hear about it until after our rights and freedoms have been signed, sealed and delivered in a gift-wrapped box to the Pentagon where they can be locked away for ever.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:34:17 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I think this indicates that the European Parliament is a political force to be reckoned with and the only remaining bulwark of European independence given that, as you say, when US asks the Commission and the Council to jump they ask "how high?".

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:38:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes, but there's not much evidence of a practical difference to policy. Occasional sniping about trade agreements doesn't count as a full declaration of independence. And for the purposes of anything that matters a lot, the Commission still has the car keys and is in charge of the steering wheel.

It's somewhat analogous to the Washington situation, where a majority of the population would effectively be classed as 'leftist extremists' in terms of political discourse, there's a group of left-leaning lawmakers who are willing to push some elements of a populist agenda as long as the boat isn't rocked too far, and there's a solid core of centre-right and far-right exceptionalists who work very hard to own the terms of discourse, and are in turn owned by special interests whose main goal is to minimise populist influence.

So the Parliament is better than nothing, and does offer some checks and balances. But it's mostly defensive play.

And the unelected Commission owns most of the board.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 09:57:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I was going to mention the comission. (I'd quote Goldman - "If voting ..." - but it's been done to death.)


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sapere aude
by Number 6 on Wed May 16th, 2007 at 05:42:04 AM EST
[ Parent ]
French MPs most active at monitoring EU laws - EUobserver.com
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - National parliaments in France, the UK, Germany, Belgium, the Czech Republic and the Netherlands have been the most active at keeping an eye on EU legislation coming out of Brussels, according to a new report by the European Commission.

The report sums up national deputies' response to a commission initiative, begun in autumn last year, to send out all legislative proposals to member state parliaments at the same time as they send them to other EU institutions.

The move is to allow national parliaments to shoot off a warning to the commission if they think it is overstepping its powers or legislating in areas that would be best left to local level action.

In total, 83 opinions were sent to the commission by 22 national assemblies concerning 44 propositions from the Brussels executive - with the French senate by far the most active.

Around one third of them (27) came as a result of two studies organised by COSAC, the body representing national parliaments, specifically looking into the contentious subsidiarity (legislating at the most local level possible) and proportionality (that any EU law is in proportion to what is trying to be achieved) principles.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:33:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Securing the G-8: A Taste of the Coming Showdown - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

Chancellor Angela Merkel wants nothing to disturb the seaside harmony at the G-8 summit in northern Germany next month. But nationwide raids last week have upset leftist protesters of every stripe -- and set the stage for an unwanted showdown on the Baltic Sea.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel talks about Heiligendamm in warm, affectionate terms. The coastline is "wonderful," and so is the locals' hospitality. Merkel picked the idyllic Baltic Sea resort as a setting for this year's Group of Eight (G-8) summit of the world's leading industrialized nations from June 6-8 because it was the perfect place to convey an image of harmony to the "wider public around the globe."

AP

German G-8 opponents were outraged by last Wednesday's police raids against members of the leftist scene. In Hamburg, things got ugly. But pictures broadcast in Germany last week weren't so pleasant. On Wednesday, around 900 police officers -- many of them masked members of special operations units -- stormed 40 apartments and offices belonging to leftists across the country. They looked for anti-globalization militants in book stores, video production studios and other left-wing centers in Hamburg, Berlin, and elsewhere. Even a theater office was raided. The main internet server of one anti-G-8 movement was also shut down.

The images were grim, and the rhetoric was downright martial: German Interior Minister Wolfgang Schäuble warned of vague attacks while German federal prosecutors spoke darkly of a "terrorist network."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:37:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Back to the seventies, or is it sixties. Or worse?

No G8 summit should be left undisturbed, even if protesters will never get near the safe retreats for the elites.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 03:27:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]

On Wednesday, around 900 police officers -- many of them masked members of special operations units -- stormed 40 apartments and offices belonging to leftists across the country. They looked for anti-globalization militants in book stores, video production studios and other left-wing centers in Hamburg, Berlin, and elsewhere.

Define "leftist".

Pre-emptive warfare - now the domestic kind coming to a home near you.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:22:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I guess the same type of leftists as the ones the Danish government wages its cultural war against -- the alternative autonomous groups.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:28:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
This should get us out of our comfort zone.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:13:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Well...

If the Iraq War is the equivalent of Mussolini's invasion of Ethiopia, what is the equivalent of the Spanish Civil War?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:34:28 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Maybe the Iranian Civil War of 2008?

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:36:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Or the American Civil War of 2012?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 09:49:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Parameters: The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012 by
Charles J. Dunlap, Jr. in 1992
The letter that follows takes us on a darkly imagined excursion into the future. A military coup has taken place in the United States--the year is 2012--and General Thomas E. T. Brutus, Commander-in-Chief of the Unified Armed Forces of the United States, now occupies the White House as permanent Military Plenipotentiary. His position has been ratified by a national referendum, though scattered disorders still prevail and arrests for acts of sedition are underway. A senior retired officer of the Unified Armed Forces, known here simply as Prisoner 222305759, is one of those arrested, having been convicted by court-martial for opposing the coup. Prior to his execution, he is able to smuggle out of prison a letter to an old War College classmate discussing the "Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012." In it, he argues that the coup was the outgrowth of trends visible as far back as 1992. These trends were the massive diversion of military forces to civilian uses, the monolithic unification of the armed forces, and the insularity of the military community. His letter survives and is here presented verbatim.

It goes without saying (I hope) that the coup scenario above is purely a literary device intended to dramatize my concern over certain contemporary developments affecting the armed forces, and is emphatically not a prediction. -- The Author



Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 09:54:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The US is only one major terrorist incident away from martial law and the formal suspension of democracy.

But I doubt a civil war is likely, because even in the event of a coup the survivalists are nowhere close to being the heroic subversives they believe they are. I'm sure Washington knows who they are, where they are, how likely they are to be a nuisance, and how little effort it would take to eliminate that nuisance.

Fantasists with assault rifles are no match for a trained army with combat experience. Even one that's largely been broken in Iraq. The most you'd get is a Soviet-style dissident network passing around samizdat, but not offering any real resistance otherwise.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 10:04:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]
No it won't. We're definitely in Pastor Niemuller salami-slice territory. We're even more docile than the yanks. They've been doing this to us under the war on terra for 6 years and there is still no concerted protest. Look at the UK fer chrissakes, in london you are fobidden by law to hold a protest anywhere within the exclusion zone designated by the Metreopolitan police, which actually is the whole of london.

They took that away and nobody noticed. Or rather at some point we realised that resistance was futile. We aren't apathetic so much as worn down by the pointlessnes of political activity.

Course we still have right-wing protests like the Country-cide alliance who gummed up london for the right to kill foxes, but dirty left-wing hippies concerned about civil rights and illegal wars, on your bike.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:41:35 AM EST
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I mean us here on ET, not the wider us.

Does Jerome think that because he's a banker he's not a "leftist"?

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:44:03 AM EST
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to use me as their token leftist (to prove that democracy is vibrant) if I behave.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:54:35 AM EST
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"Russia Wants Pragmatic, Business-Like Cooperation" | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 14.05.2007
Russian and EU delegates meet this week as relations remain taught on issues like independence for Kosovo, human rights and the US missile shield. Russia of today is not the Russia of the 90s, said expert Alexander Rahr.

Alexander Rahr is a Russia expert from the German Society for Foreign Affairs, a Berlin-based research group.

DW-RADIO: Do the ongoing disputes between Russia and the EU make you pessimistic about the prospects for any breakthroughs at the upcoming summit?

Alexander Rahr: In the short run, I'm very skeptical and pessimistic about the possibility of improving relations between Russia and the European Union, but of course one has to be more optimistic for the long run. But presently, there is talk of a new Cold War between the EU and Russia.

One of the main disputes is about the power that Moscow wields because of its massive reserves of oil and gas and its control over the transport of energy supplies from Central Asia. How do you think this issue will be addressed at the summit?

I think that this is a temporary situation. The situation in general will stabilize and improve because Russia needs its European partners and the European market in order to sell its goods. It cannot sit on its oil and get the sources alone. It has to sell it.

On the other hand, the West also has to understand that the Russia of today is not the Russia of the 90s. Russia also has some new powers which we have to take into account.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:39:10 AM EST
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Germany Makes Fence-Mending Visit to Russia Ahead of Summit | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 14.05.2007
German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, whose country holds the rotating EU presidency, is to make an unscheduled visit to Russia to diffuse growing tensions ahead of this week's EU-Russia summit.

On Tuesday, Steinmeier will hold crisis talks with President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov over a growing list of disputes ranging from a Russian ban on Polish meat to Russia's threat to veto wide-ranging autonomy for Kosovo.

 

"The situation is complicated," conceded Steinmeier, as he arrived to chair talks in Brussels with his EU counterparts. "In this situation we need to present proposals and not (trade) accusations," he said.

 

Steinmeier took pains to quash rumors that the summit would be cancelled.

 

"It will take place," he told reporters. "We have to bring an end to these discussions about whether or not the summit will take place," he added.

 

"The EU needs Russia to resolve international conflicts, but similarly Russia continues to depend on Europe, so I am absolutely sure that on both sides reason will prevail," he said.

 

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:39:31 AM EST
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This action is a right step, but this is too late too little in terms of conflict reduction. Despite the primarily role played by German diplomacy during the accession negotiations, Big Diplomacy still focuses only on big countries, and is then surprised when something like the Estonian statue issue blows up. They should have engaged the Estonian government on this issue and the Russian and Lithuanian governments on the pipeline issue months before the planned summit, not to mention an initiative on food safety norms to resolve the Polish issue.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:33:38 AM EST
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Old-new Europe divide opens up over policy towards Moscow | Russia | Guardian Unlimited
European leaders were locked in a bitter dispute over policy towards Russia yesterday, just days before a crucial EU-Russia summit that threatens to turn into an acrimonious flop.

Amid the worst hostility between Moscow and the west for years, the US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, arrived in Moscow for talks with President Vladimir Putin insisting there was "no new cold war" and the German foreign minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, prepared to rush to see President Putin today in a last-gasp attempt to salvage this weekend's summit.

Article continues A meeting of EU foreign ministers saw an "old-new Europe" divide opening up over policy towards Moscow. The German and Polish foreign ministers traded barbs, with the east Europeans accusing Germany and western Europe of being too soft on President Putin.

Poland, Estonia, and Lithuania were highly critical of the German preparations for the summit, demanding a much tougher and concerted European line towards what they feel to be the new Russian menace.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:40:45 AM EST
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can't this smug group of narcissistic plutocrats get a room already?

they don't get it that for every loony leftist waving placards and risking getting their heads kicked in, (genoa, anyone?), there are hundreds like me who are weary of their parade.

they're gonna do what they're gonna do anyway, why do they feel compelled to flaunt their cozy hegemony over the world financial system in front of the proles?

it's like waving a red flag in front of a bull...

hint..do it with a video conference, guys...
we've had enough of your ingenuous hope that we're all going to flatter your egos, bowing and scraping before our new overlords.

you're rich, you're sleek, you're where the elite meet to eat...the planet.

so take it somewhere else, like some bunker 100 m. underground, where no-one will disturb your comicbook delusions of world domination through greed, corruption, resource sequestration, murder and genocide.

no-one likes you except your shareholders, go jerk off in front of them.

your vanity is worse than your lust for power, kissing each others' buffed asses, while the hungry claw at the closed doors outside.

what's obvious from the nastiness of the 'security' is just now much nastier is what's going on inside.

to pluto with you!

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 02:45:39 AM EST
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That should be an anthem. Very well said melo.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 07:16:58 AM EST
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I note this is the upteenth article not noting what I did here: of the new members, only those bordering on Russia (Poland and the three Baltics) take part in this division, not all.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 03:47:20 AM EST
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It may be un-noted, but it has been part of my algorithm since you mentioned it. Thanks.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 07:15:42 AM EST
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But the New vs. Old Europe meme is "useful".

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 07:34:26 AM EST
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It's "needed".

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 08:02:54 AM EST
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As a nice addendum to my recent diary on immigrants, this on the front page of the FT today:


EU to hit employers of illegal workers

Companies face more spot checks of their employees' work papers as part of a crackdown on illegal immigration across the European Union under plans to be announced on Wednesday. The worst offending bosses could face criminal charges.

(...)

Critics are likely to say that sectors such as agriculture, catering and construction depend on the illegal workforce.

The draft legislation could also prompt concerns about extra bureaucracy.

(...)

Behind the proposal is a desire to reduce exploitation of undocumented immigrants and the "pull" factor that drives illegal entry. Mr Frattini also believes that the employment of illegal immigrants distorts competition.

However, the draft legislation is far from a fait accompli. Several of Mr Frattini's fellow EU commissioners question whether it is an appropriate response.

Enforcing the law is "extra bureaucracy"... Some sectors "depend" on breaking the law... Ah, the beautiful standards of anonymous "critics" and "concerned" persons.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:32:20 AM EST
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Or coded instructions to henchmen?
Critics are likely to say that sectors such as agriculture, catering and construction depend on the illegal workforce.

The draft legislation could also prompt concerns about extra bureaucracy.

It is amazing how careless the FT is in disguising opinion as news.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:41:04 AM EST
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Twice removed from the author of the supposed opinion - but the point is gotten across.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:52:12 AM EST
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The verb tenses indicate that the opinion hasn't even been voiced yet!

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 06:01:12 AM EST
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Yeah... Reminds me a lot of 'news' 'coverage' of some election campaigns. If you can't stick a scandal/gaffe/whatever to an opponent, just get all media outlets to ask: "Will the rumor of this issue hurt the campaign of the candidate.", and the damage is already done... With the bonus of plausible deniability! Heh. "We never said that candidate A did x,y, or z. We were simply speculating as to whether the rumor thereof might be damaging..."

The verb tenses above indicate the opinion that ought to be voiced by all right thinking persons. As if we couldn't figure out what that opinion would be on our own...

by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 06:30:04 AM EST
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You're a leftist.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 06:32:37 AM EST
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Look who's talking.

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 06:37:02 AM EST
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They'll be looking for her before the next Davos meeting...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 06:44:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
An unrepentant and unreformed leftist, even.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 07:49:07 AM EST
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WORLD
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:26:54 AM EST
Germany Criticizes US Over Afghan Civilian Deaths | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 14.05.2007
German Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung has called for a rethink of US military tactics in Afghanistan after US coalition operations caused a spate of civilian casualties.

"We need to make sure that in future operations don't take place in this way," Jung told reporters on Monday in Brussels where he was meeting with his EU counterparts.

 

"We don't want the population against us," he said. "We have to prevent that."

 

Jung said the killing of civilians antagonized the local population and jeopardized international efforts to win the "hearts and minds" of ordinary Afghans.

 

"It is precisely the wrong tactic," the Defense Minister said. Jung added that he had raised the issue with NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:30:18 AM EST
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...and the US will just shrug and go on, and Jung et al will just shrug and vassal on, and everyone will act surprised once NATO is thrown out of Afghanistan.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 03:53:30 AM EST
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German troops are currently in Afghanistan in a non-combat support role. So I wonder if the subtext here isn't: "We're not willing to spend the political capital that would be necessary to remain here if our people start coming home in bags."

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:35:38 AM EST
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Well, the Tornados are now also there. So then also a bit of washing hands.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:39:06 AM EST
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Indeed. I wonder if Jung is just now grasping the concept of the slippery slope.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:26:10 AM EST
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He's from the Hessen CDU (and an original member of the Anden-Pakt). The concept of slippery slope is membership criteria there.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 05:39:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Africa's Unfair Battle: The West's Poverty Subsidies - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

Farmers in Kenya, Burkina Faso and Senegal used to be able to make ends meet. Today they have trouble selling their goods because of subsidized exports from industrial nations that are sold in Africa at dumping prices. But will the West ever change?

Editor's Note: Industrialized nations spend billions to subsidize their high-tech farming industries. Surplus crops often end up being sold at rock-bottom prices in the markets of developing countries, making it impossible for local farmers to sell their products. Even the American food aid being sent to famine-plagued regions creates more suffering than it alleviates, because many governments prefer to wait for handouts than buy up their farmers' harvests. The lack of options is forcing thousands of Africans to risk the life-threatening journey to Europe (more...).

It's a big day for a little boy, but it's also a day that will more than likely end on a depressing note. The fishermen know this, but none of them is willing to dampen the boy's enthusiasm on his first day of work.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:30:56 AM EST
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See this from Oxfam:
G8 broken promises could cost five million lives warns Oxfam


A new report launched today by the international agency, Oxfam shows that on current trends the G8 countries could miss their promise to increase aid by 2010 by a massive $30 billion at a cost of at least five million - mainly children's - lives.
The report, "The World is Still Waiting," published a month before the G8 meet in Germany, is the first to calculate how far the world's richest countries could miss the target of giving $50bn annually they set themselves at Gleneagles in 2005. Italy is predicted to be $8.1bn short on its promises, France $7.6bn short and Germany $7bn.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:24:06 AM EST
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New Alliance Threatens Karzai: Power Struggle in Afghanistan - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

In Afghanistan, an odd, new alliance of Mujahedeen, old communists, and royalists is threatening President Hamid Karzai's leadership. But can the motley crew solve the country's problems?

 Two children playing on a destroyed car in front of the ruins of a Kabul palace. Such massive security precautions -- just to attend a national holiday parade -- can hardly be a good sign for the country. First, secret police secure the bridge over the Kabul River. Then armored cars, machine guns protruding from their rotating towers, roll into position as sharpshooters fan out in the ruins of the old city center. A Special Forces unit is perched on the roof of the Id-Gah Mosque to keep a watchful eye on the VIP rostrum.

Finally, at just past 9 a.m., half a dozen police cars speed into the square, sirens blaring. The day's leading man slips almost unnoticed out of a car in the middle of the motorcade. Hamid Karzai, the president of Afghanistan, has arrived.

The boulevard between the river and Kabul's bustling Maiwand Street has seen its fair share of celebrations. In 1919, after the Third Anglo-Afghan War, King Amanullah stood here and proclaimed Afghanistan's freedom from Great Britain. Rulers have been crowned here; rebels have marched here; the communists demonstrated here.

Today, Kabul's establishment is celebrating the anniversary of the "Islamic Revolution" here. In Afghanistan, the reference is to the overthrow of the Najibullah regime in 1992 and the takeover by the Mujahedeen; the Karzai government elected to name April 28th -- the day the holy warriors triumphed over the communists loyal to Moscow -- as the fledgling democracy's national holiday. Smoking tanks roll past the rostrum, followed by limping war veterans, and the first fighter jets from the Afghan National Army scream through the sky above.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:31:56 AM EST
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An American nightmare: US search for kidnapped troops in Iraq - Independent Online Edition > Middle East

Even by Iraqi standards Youssufiyah is a violent place. At first sight the well-watered farmland and groves of date palms look attractively green but then you notice the bullet-riddled hulks of cars. Iraqi soldiers and police appear more than usually frightened. The streets of the ramshackle and grimy town conveys a sense of menace.

I used to disguise myself with a red-and-white Arab headdress to pass safely though the lethally dangerous area south of Baghdad where three American soldiers are being held captive. I would sit in the back of my car hoping that the small boys selling cigarettes beside the road didn't recognise me as a foreigner.

Thousands of American and Iraqi troops were desperately searching these towns and the land round about yesterday in the hope of finding a bunker or secret room where three abducted soldiers are being held. It may already be too late. The Islamic State of Iraq, the group which claimed yesterday to have captured them and to which al-Qa'ida belongs, may already have spirited them out of the area.

Here, at 4.44 am on, a US patrol in two vehicles was surprised and overrun by insurgents. The burned bodies of four soldiers and an Iraqi interpreter were found on the road. Three others had disappeared. It was obviously a mistake for a small and isolated detachment to be in an insurgent-controlled area. Such is the fear of roadside bombs that a relieving force took an hour to reach them.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:38:15 AM EST
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M of A - An Apology to the Media

Dear media,

I was wrong, terribly wrong. Please accept my apology.

In my posting about your reports on the recent capturing of U.S. soldiers in Iraqi I alleged:

There must be some institutionalized media amnesia with regard to reports on U.S. behavior in foreign countries.

That statement was wrong. I defamed the media and I am very sorry for this.

At the time of my writing none of your reports I had seen made the obvious connection of the recent capture to an earlier event in the same Iraqi town. Last year U.S. soldiers raped a 14 year old girl in Mahmoudiya and they killed her and her family.

The current event was an obvious revenge act but that was not mentioned in your reports.

I concluded that the media, not reporting the relation, had a Mahmoudiya Amnesia.

That was false and I do apologize for that.

Today agencies distribute news that some "al-Qaida" gang confesses they took these prisoners because of that rape. The connection, which explains the motives of the resistance, is now widely and prominently reported on.

Down the tenth paragraph of its story on the news release the New York Times writes:

The statement went on to cite the American mistreatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and the rape last year of a teenaged girl by American troops near the site where the abduction occurred.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:52:59 AM EST
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Bank Rebukes Wolfowitz On Ethics - washingtonpost.com

In a written response, Wolfowitz maintained that he acted in good faith in seeking to resolve an obvious conflict of interest. He accused the bank's ethics committee of forcing him to oversee the raise for his longtime companion, Shaha Riza, as compensation for her transfer to a different job. The ethics panel was afraid to confront her, Wolfowitz said, because its members knew she was "extremely angry and upset."

The ethics committee told Wolfowitz he could not directly supervise Riza, who also worked at the bank, after he arrived in 2005. He said, however, that the panel declined to oversee her job transfer and compensation, instead ordering him to handle those tasks.

"Its members did not want to deal with a very angry Ms. Riza, whose career was being damaged as a result of their decision," Wolfowitz said in his response to the investigating committee's report. "It would only be human nature for them to want to steer clear of her."

Wolfowitz added that the chairman of the ethics panel thought that "due to my personal relationship with Ms. Riza, I was in the best position to persuade her to take out-placement and thereby achieve the 'pragmatic solution' the committee desired."

Wolfowitz effectively blamed Riza for his predicament as well, saying that her "intractable position" in demanding a salary increase as compensation for her career disruption forced him to grant one to pre-empt a lawsuit. He is scheduled to appear before the board this afternoon. The board is expected to begin deliberating on how to respond as soon as tonight. Board members are inclined to issue a resolution expressing a lack of confidence in Wolfowitz's leadership, senior bank officials said.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 12:43:37 AM EST
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sorry, i can't help it...

can you imagine the pillow talk between wolfie and his lover?

' i'm getting that raise, paul, i don't care how..'

'obviously....no one else will face you down, my dusky dragon...'

'oh, wolfie....snarl for me....'

'shaha, my tented temptress, you make me so hot when you scare the ethics committee like that'

'er, paul, why not run your comb under the faucet like normal folks?'

' come here, you corrupt little darling!'

a curtain of propriety falls upon the scene

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 02:27:31 AM EST
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ARGH!!!  I don't know how I gave you a four -- I wanted to downrate this!  It'll give me nightmares!!  Please, remember our timezone differences and try to have a little sensitivity.  The comb... you had to go and mention the comb... O, the humanity...

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 02:32:19 AM EST
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I don't know. Neocons in Love could be next year's unexpected box office winner - don't you think?
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 10:10:44 AM EST
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Horror flicks always do well at the box office.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:50:09 PM EST
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Wolfowitz is doing one hell of a character assassination number on his (probably erstwhile by now) partner. She's "angry", she's "intactable", she's got both Wolfie and the ethics committee hopelessly intimidated.

It may or may not be sexism, (just like she may or may not be competent) but what Wolfie's doing sure ain't fair.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue May 15th, 2007 at 04:41:31 AM EST
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