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Terrorism In Hungary II

by DoDo
Thu May 10th, 2007 at 07:09:54 AM EST

The radicalisation of the Hungarian far-right continues, it seems.

On Tuesday, in an elevator in a ten-storey apartment block, someone overheard a man telling into his cell phone: "we prepared it well, tonight we'll blow it up". The anonymous informer called police. This being the day of a rally of the governing Socialists, police took no chances, and came to the house, and converged on a suspicious flat.

According to Index.hu, just leaving the flat (and first arrested) was well-known far-right blogger "Tomcat", also a leading figure of the riots of the past eight months. Inside, they found a 21-year-old and his mother -- and a bomb factory.

From the diaries - whataboutbob


(A flashback: Terrorism in Hungary I was 'just' firing a few rounds on the police headquarters from a Kalashnikov back in February.)

There were more than 100 kg of bomb-making ingredients, from fuses through nitrates to oxides, and bizarrely, human bones in a bag. In bowls, half-made bombs, according to the first analysis, probably smoke bombs and firebombs.

You may remember the desecration of the grave of János Kádár, the post-1956 longtime communist boss of Hungary. The first analysis says that the bones found in the bomb-factory flat aren't the same bones stolen there (or at lerast not all), because they seem to be bones of multiple people, and include bones Kádár's grave-robbers left behind.

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human bones in a bag. In bowels, half-made bombs

That's a funny typo. You mean bowls?

Bush is a symptom, not the disease.

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 9th, 2007 at 03:50:49 PM EST
Heh, really funny... Thanks for spottin'!

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed May 9th, 2007 at 04:06:26 PM EST
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Bombs in bowels?

A scary thought. All it will take is one, or some foreign-looking teenagers talking about one, and airport security will become rather more unpleasant. And I'll bet you thought that fear of pointy things, shoes, and moist materials was annoying!

What's that? In bellies too?
And intestines??

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by technopolitical on Fri May 11th, 2007 at 12:53:33 AM EST
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I post a barely related news here, though it is also connected to discussion of demands for the removal of Soviet war memorials in the Salon:

A month ago, we discussed similar demands in Hungary, with the anti-memorial far-right organisations staging a signature collection for a referendum with the question:

Do you agree that the Parliament should abrogate the law 1945/IX "about the commemoration of the memory of the Soviet soldiers who fell during the liberation of Budapest"?

They got together 210,000 signatures until the deadline. But then they declared that they won't present them. Officially, because they learnt that the government is about to present a 'deregulation package' that they think would also eliminate this law. The thruth I think is that after the verification of the signatures, they wouldn't have the needed minumum of 200,000.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed May 9th, 2007 at 04:05:15 PM EST
Wow. My wife (a Hungarian) mentioned the Kadar bones to me. What is it with Hungarians and bones? Is there some kind of tribal history in Hungary that we need to tap into to understand why there seems to be this need--at least by the right wingers there-- to dig up dead folks and move them around? (Maybe it has something to do with St. Stephen I and his Holy Right hand/arm which I understand traveled around a bit too...)

On another note, we were planning on visiting Szentendre in July, any reason, in your view, to put that off based on rambunctious politics, etc?

by delicatemonster (delicatemons@delicatemonster.com) on Wed May 9th, 2007 at 04:10:11 PM EST
Regarding the Kádár bone robbers: they sprayed a line from a natrionalist rock band's song on a nearby memorial, one saying that murderers have no place in holy ground. No specific tribal history. St. Stephen's right arm is a relic, digging up graves of saits for intact parts to be revered was a rather common practice in the Middle Ages throughout Catholic Europe.

Regarding putting off a visit, hell no! Don't let yourself be scared. Myself, I went to watch a movie in the inner part of Budapest right in the middle of the last protests/riots (read here): these events aren't on the scale that life stands still.  And if you avoid Budapest and go only to Szentendre, don't expect any troubles there...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed May 9th, 2007 at 04:46:03 PM EST
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Good to hear!

Thanks DoDo ... or, Köszönöm!

We'll be traveling to both Budapest and Szentendre I imagine, as well as Esztergom and Visegrád and other areas around the Danube bend.

by delicatemonster (delicatemons@delicatemonster.com) on Wed May 9th, 2007 at 05:15:00 PM EST
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No update on the main issue so far, but police said that there were 200 pieces of human bone, which must belong to 30-40 people who died decades ago. Someone had a strange hobby here...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Thu May 10th, 2007 at 10:17:00 AM EST
If it is not just a strange hobby could they have been planning to use it for something?

Like, blaiming left-wing elements for the bombs and using the bones to prove it killed lots of people? Ok, it would be discovered pretty soon that it was old bones, but maybe they were just back-up bones and they were planning to steal a couple of fairly fresh bodies from the morgue...

This reads like the script of a really lousy movie.

by A swedish kind of death on Thu May 10th, 2007 at 10:38:28 AM EST
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No, it makes zero sense to plant bones at a bombing.  You don't find bones at bombings, you find whole body parts. Flesh.

I can't think of any logical use for them, but then I can't think of any logical reason why someone would be building bombs in his mom's house, either.

The bones angle does make this whole thing bizarrely fascinating, though.  I suspect they were up to some kind of scam with them.

by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu May 10th, 2007 at 10:57:47 AM EST
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Because if you build it at you dads house, he will be mad at you. :-)
by A swedish kind of death on Thu May 10th, 2007 at 12:19:23 PM EST
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