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Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:05:49 AM EST

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:06:32 AM EST
France, Italy and 5 other European countries threatened for overfishing tuna - International Herald Tribune

PARIS: Seven European countries including France and Italy were threatened with legal action over lax fisheries controls Wednesday as part of new efforts to prevent the collapse of bluefin tuna from overfishing.

Driven by the high prices from the Japanese sushi market, European fishermen have already caught their entire quota of 16,779.5 tons of bluefin tuna for 2007 and last week were ordered to stop fishing until next year.

The European Commission said Wednesday that it intended to get tough with the countries that fail to police their national fishing fleets. In a statement it said that "high rates of undeclared overfishing have been singled out as a key cause of the decline of the stock."

Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Spain were sent legal letters for failing to send official data on catches to the commission. France and Italy received the same warning though theirs also referred to shortcomings in their controls. If their answers fail to satisfy the European Commission, the countries can be taken to the European Court of Justice, the European Union's highest court.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:10:24 AM EST
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FT.com / World - France puts off balancing budget

The French government on Wednesday unveiled a budget for 2008 that does little towards balancing public finances only days after the prime minister warned the country was "bankrupt".

The first budget under Nicolas Sarkozy's presidency puts on hold France's efforts to trim its public deficit and debt in spite of the protests of its eurozone partners, who want Paris to stick to promises made by the previous government.

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The European Commission, which declined to comment on the budget, is considering issuing a formal notice to France telling it to stick to its undertaking to balance its budget by 2010.

It would be the first use of the "early advice notice" procedure under the European Union's revised fiscal rules. However, France is likely to brush off any such intervention that has no legal or political consequences.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:10:44 AM EST
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during the presidential campaign earlier this year how Royal was deeply unserious about her budgetary plans while Sarkozy would finally do something to bring deficits back under control.

And yet nobody is calling him on it - and the criticism from the left today is being overshadowed by the leadership contest in the PS.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 05:13:57 AM EST
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And only last week Fillon was saying the Franch government was bankrupt.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 05:27:16 AM EST
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All the better to privatise.
by Loefing on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 06:49:43 AM EST
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Spanish wine-makers forced into Pyrenees by global warming - Independent Online Edition > Europe

Spain's leading family of wine-makers are heading for the hills to keep ahead of the global warming that threatens their Catalan vineyards.

The Torres family have been making wine in the north-eastern Penedes region for four generations, but are now buying plots near the foothills of the Pyrenees as conditions in their traditional vineyards become increasingly dry.

"We are moving into cooler areas of northern Catalonia, towards the Pyrenees," said the company's chairman, Miguel Torres. "We have already planted vineyards successfully that we can use in the future." The company has planted 104 hectares of vines 1,000m above sea level in the foothills near Tremp - four times higher than their main winery near Penedes, west of Barcelona.

The company said: "Climate change is unfortunately a reality not only established by scientists; we ourselves, who work with the fruit of the land, are aware of the problems."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:12:14 AM EST
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See a siegel's wine diary for other examples of the winemaking industry's sensitivity to global warming.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 02:33:19 AM EST
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EU should accept wrongly-imprisoned Guantanamo detainees, MEPs say - EUobserver.com
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - A group of European lawmakers has thrown its support behind a campaign calling on EU capitals to grant asylum to 45 men wrongly-imprisoned in the US military base in Guantanamo, Cuba.

"Innocent civilians continue to languish in Guantanamo despite being cleared for release...EU governments should step in and offer this group of persecuted individuals some hope", Dutch green MEP Kathalijne Buitenweg told EUobserver on Wednesday (26 September).

"By not acting the European Union will become responsible for their misery", Ms Buitenweg added.

The campaign, suggesting the relocation of Guantanamo prisoners from right-abusing regimes such as Algeria or Sudan to the EU territory, has been launched by the International Federation for Human Rights along with the Centre for Constitutional Rights.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:12:53 AM EST
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Can someone explain what the problem is here?

They're innocent, they've been tortured, by any reasonable humanitarian standard they count as refugees.

Why the reluctance to accept them?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:14:56 AM EST
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The Eu governments cannot bring themselves to admit in public that the US tortures and wrongly imprisons people.

That is the problem.

It has become transparently clear that the European Parliament and the Council of Europe are the only European instututions which care about human rights, and they are allowed to because they don't have any real power. If they did their ranks would be filled with the kinds of people we have in the national parliaments, or, God forbid, the National Governments.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:19:50 AM EST
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I think the theory is probably that as they were tortured, they may now be pissed off enough to become terrorists.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:39:06 AM EST
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As I understand it, the choices of the Bush Administration were to adopt these poor little brown brothers and let them work on the ranch when the brush got too high, or do what is legally required and convince the country of nationality to take them back.

Now whether it is for the good reason that ceeb gave, or whether it is because the Party of the Incarcerated and the Party of the Nationality would have to sign a truckload of documents indemnifying the US from any liability except for the already incurred charges of lodging and flight to Gitmo...well, some of these countries just ain't buying into the program and a bunch of these guys (where there any girls? I didn't think so), yes, a bunch of these guys totaling into the several dozen and suspected to be more except that this first batch is embarrassing enough as it is...anyway, they be vacationing in the better parts of the gulag.

Now, a few countries have taken some guys back, put them in the gaol so that the they could be seen doing their promised duty of treating these people seriously - until the watching American satellite goes off to do other satellite things, whereupon the back door would open and these people go free...well, as free as one can be in Australia and Germany and Italy, if I remember correctly.

Actually, it would be very cool if the EU would come to the rescue of these people. It isn't like the EU has been asked before-that's really not the protocol. It really seems like an ah-ha moment. Perhaps everyone was waiting for Israel to offer sanctuary since it was given a country to take in people who didn't have a country.

In the end, I think this is a great idea for many reasons. And what to do with these guys? Perhaps it is too obvious to say, but I will write it down anyway. I think that they should become the EU contingent to NATO.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 10:49:28 AM EST
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Scotsman.com News - Latest News - International - Gorbachev warns Russians against rise of Stalinism

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev warned Russians on Wednesday of the risk of a rebirth of Stalinism, saying their country was in danger of forgetting its tragic past.0

"We should remember those who suffered, because this a lesson for all of us," Gorbachev told a conference marking 70 years since the start of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin's Great Terror.

"We must squeeze Stalinism out of ourselves, not in single drops but by the glass or bucket," Gorbachev added. "There are those saying Stalin's rule was the Golden Age, while (Nikita) Khrushchev's thaw was sheer utopia and (Leonid) Brezhnev's neo-Stalinism was the continuation of the Golden Age."

During the Great Terror, 1.7 million Soviet citizens were arrested between August 1937 and November 1938, of whom 818,000 were executed, the human rights group Memorial said.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:23:19 AM EST
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swissinfo - English teaching divides Swiss parliament
The two chambers of the federal parliament are at odds over whether English should be made the first foreign language taught at schools.

The country's cantons traditionally have far-reaching autonomy over language and education, which has led to some choosing English over one of Switzerland's national languages.

 

The Senate on Tuesday decided against a clause in a new language law forcing schools to teach a second national language - German, French, Italian, Romansh - before English.

 

This goes against the House of Representatives, which last June gave national languages priority. The proposal will now go back to the house to be debated at a later stage.

 

A clear majority in the Senate said setting a mandatory nationwide priority went against the constitution and was irresponsible.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:34:10 AM EST
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Europe puts brakes on Google deal - Times Online

Google's $3.1 billion (£1.5 billion) acquisition of DoubleClick, the largest broker of online banner advertising, is likely to be delayed for months by the European Commission, advisors close to the internet search giant believe.

The European competition watchdog will decide by October 26 whether to launch a full investigation into the takeover, which would hold up the deal for at least four months. The Commission could block it altogether if the investigation reveals significant competition issues.

A full-blown inquiry would be construed as an interim victory for Microsoft, which is lobbying fiercely against the DoubleClick deal on competition and privacy grounds.

Microsoft, which is fighting to reinvent itself as a force in online advertising, was beaten in an auction for DoubleClick this year. It is thought that Microsoft matched Google's bid but was snubbed by Helman & Friedman, DoubleClick's private equity owner.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:39:07 AM EST
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swissinfo - Polish official sues Swiss senator Dick Marty over CIA prisons.
A former senior Polish intelligence official is suing a Swiss investigator over a report accusing him of direct knowledge of secret CIA operations in Poland.

Marek Siwiec, who is now vice-president of the European Parliament, has filed a libel suit against Swiss senator Dick Marty in the district court of Poznan, Siwiec's office said.

 

Marty identified Siwiec as one of several local officials privy to the United States secret detention programme in Europe after the 2001 attacks.

 

The former Swiss prosecutor had conducted an 18-month inquiry on behalf of the Council of Europe into allegations that the US intelligence interrogated key terror suspects at secret prisons in Poland and Romania.

 

Citing unidentified CIA sources and other contacts, Marty accused four high-ranking Poles and five Romanians - including former presidents Aleksander Kwasniewski and Ion Iliescu - as being politically accountable for the clandestine jails, where he said prisoners were shackled and handcuffed, kept naked and in isolation.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:40:43 AM EST
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WORLD
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:06:57 AM EST
Asia Times Online :: Middle East News - US trashes Iran agreement at own peril
This week, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was thoroughly trashed by the Western media over its recent agreement with Iran, an agreement that, ironically, was warmly embraced by the majority of nations that are members of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM). The North-South gap has turned ballistic, and there is no bridge over this troubled water.

"NAM respects the recent report by the IAEA's director general, Mohamed ElBaradei, on Iran," the Cuban foreign minister and  current head of NAM, Felipe Perez Roque, told the press after the conclusion of a two-day NAM summit in Tehran.

The ministerial meeting was a timely shot in the arm for Tehran, which hopes to avoid a new round of United Nations sanctions come this autumn, even though British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has warned that new sanctions are inevitable if Iran continues to defy UN Security Council resolutions on its nuclear program.

Not surprisingly, little if any of the praise for the IAEA heard at the NAM summit has been echoed in the United States, which is keen on maintaining the delicate coalition at the UN that brought the first two anti-Tehran resolutions and yet is concerned that the IAEA's agreement with Iran could, in the words of a Washington Post editorial, give China and Russia "a pretext to resist another UN sanctions resolution".

Iran and the IAEA agreed last month on a plan of action that is supposed to remove all technical ambiguities surrounding Iran's nuclear projects and serve as the basis for a political settlement between Iran's chief nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani and European Union foreign-policy chief Javier Solana.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:09:41 AM EST
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Burma: Inside the saffron revolution - Independent Online Edition > Asia

The inevitable happened sometime before noon.

Close to the Shwedagon pagoda, the golden gleaming monument in central Rangoon that has been the focus of protest for nine days, at least 10 monks were beaten up by police as thousands once again defied the authorities and tried to enter the holy shrine. Next, the police fired tear gas at them, and scores of the men in saffron robes were arrested and dragged away. From then on things only got worse.

By last night up to eight monks and civilians had, according to differing reports, been killed as the military regime finally resorted to violence to put down the soaring challenge to its rule.

Reuters reported that hospital and monastery sources claimed two monks and a civilian had been killed, while Burmese media operating outside of the country said the death toll was higher. Up to 300 monks and other demonstrators were reportedly arrested before the police again imposed a curfew and the streets of Rangoon cleared.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:13:54 AM EST
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Voices from cyberspace: how Burma's bloggers are bearing witness to the unfolding revolution - Independent Online Edition > Asia

Dawn 109,Rangoon

A lot of rumours are flying around Yangon [Ran goon]. I am getting awfully paranoid. The military has been ordered to shoot. I heard... that "they have been ordered to shoot." Even now, a co-worker is saying: "They are going to shoot." I just saw with my own eyes that more than 500 monks... have marched on Bo Gyoke Aung Sand Road. There were other people too, walking along the side, holding hands, holding Buddhist flags, singing and clapping hands. They were chanting: "To the uncountable living beings living in uncountable universes to the east, May they be free of danger, May they be free of anger, May they be free of sufferings, andMay their hearts be calm and peaceful. May there be peace on earth."

Kto Hike

All over Rangoon, thousands of people are marching on foot, some on bikes, from 26th Street to 33rd Street. Soldiers in police uniforms are using tear gas bombs, officers are shouting orders to fire just above peoples' heads. Guns are firing continuously. Students from Main University Road are now marching towards 80th Street. On 26 September, a Buddhist monk was beaten to death by plain-clothed thugs while he was praying at the Shwe Dagon Pagoda in the centre of Rangoon. The dead body was carried back to the Sadu Monastery in Kyee Myindine. My part-time duty is working on Emergency YGH... at about 2 pm, 5 patients were coming to our Emergency... for gun shot wounds... 1 patient died on spot on arriving at hospital... 4 r still bad in Diagnosis... The patient's attendant said he was not in d line of protest... they were chatting and watching d protest line and sitting on Cafe Bar near Shawe Dagon Pagoda... Government military car was crossing to d protest line and randomly shot all of them...

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:14:30 AM EST
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As Burmese troops open fire at monks, China and Russia block global sanctions | Special reports | Guardian Unlimited
Burma's military rulers were facing calls from around the world last night to show restraint in their treatment of pro-democracy demonstrators, but China and Russia blocked more punitive measures.

After troops in Rangoon opened fire on monks and their supporters on the bloodiest day of the week-long protests, the UN security council held an emergency session to consider a joint call for sanctions from the US and the European Union.

George Bush announced new sanctions on Tuesday and European ministers said they would consider toughening the existing package of EU sanctions, as Gordon Brown had demanded.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:17:21 AM EST
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The Guardian: Only Burma's neighbours can stop its dictators beating up the Buddha

There is frustratingly little Europe and the US can do to halt the unfolding tragedy. India and China must take the lead. Too little attention is being paid to Burma's other big Asian neighbour, India. Although it is the world's largest democracy, India has so far been quite pusillanimous in its relations with Burma's dictators. It seems more concerned about competing for influence (and energy contracts) with China than it is about the nature of the regime. As a result, Burma's rulers have been able to play India off against China, and vice versa. One thing the United States and the European Union could do is to suggest rather emphatically to our Indian friends that this is short-sighted. Ideally, India and China would also get together to see if they have common as well as competing interests in the unhappy land sandwiched between them. Two giants should not be played off so easily by a pygmy.

None of this seems likely to stop the generals from clamping down now. There is still a chance the repression won't succeed. History is always open. But even if this round of protests is suppressed, the world will have been dramatically and movingly alerted to Burma's plight; Burma's Asian neighbours will have been shaken out of their sluggish passivity; and we can hope that Burma's non-violent opposition will itself learn something from the experience, something for next time. If so, the monks will not have marched in vain.


The anger in the West at Russia, China and India over Myanmar is growing but sanctions is vexed question. European companies like French Total heavily invested in Myanmar, US since Clinton time do not buy anything0 this unfortunate country (but US is on other side of the globe).
What neighbours could do? Maybe some targeted sanctions against military regime, embargo on arms purchases by junta. No neighbour of Myanmar would want imposition of hard sanctions and breaking their trade ties, advocated by Americans, as civilians will be the first victims.
by FarEasterner on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:04:31 AM EST
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ASEAN could take a stand, but unfortunately ASEAN doesn't make democracy or human rights an issue because it would hinder economic cooperation.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:13:08 AM EST
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Election Central | Talking Points Memo | Kyl-Lieberman Iran Amendment Passes By Huge Margin

The Kyl-Lieberman Iran amendment -- which ratchets up the confrontation with Iran by calling for the designation of its Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization responsible for killing U.S. troops -- just passed overwhelmingly, 76-22.

Of the Dem Presidential candidates, Hillary voted for the measure, Joe Biden and Chris Dodd opposed it, and Barack Obama missed the vote. On the GOP side, John McCain missed the vote.

The bill's backers had tried to mollify its critics by taking out some of its most incendiary language, particularly the idea that "it should be the policy of the United States to combat, contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its foreign facilitators such as Lebanese Hezbollah, and its indigenous Iraqi proxies."

Also removed from the measure was a provision "to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments" in support of the above.

One leading critic, Jim Webb, however, still opposed the bill because it designates the Iran guard a terrorist organization. Nonetheless, it was able to pass overwhelmingly.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:16:40 AM EST
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U.S. Senate urges Bush to declare Iranian force a terrorist group - Haaretz - Israel News
Washington - The United States Senate urged the Bush administration Wednesday to declare Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard a terrorist group to help the U.S. roll back Iranian influence in Iraq.

The measure passed by 76-22 votes over the objections of Democrats, who argued it could lead to war with Iran because the Revolutionary Guard is part of the Iranian military.

Though backed by the Republicans, the administration is unlikely to heed the measure. The lower House of Representatives passed similar gislation Tuesday that also called for more U.S. sanctions on Iran.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:37:34 AM EST
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Assuming that the evidence of Iran's Revolutionary Guard exists which is that they are involved directly or indirectly in killing American soldiers, then you would expect a country to declare war against that army's nation.

This so called "terrorist" designation is a coward's way around a very fundamental foreign policy issue. They are not a terror organization - they are a branch of Iran's armed services.

Would these same brave legislature vote this way if it were a declaration of war? Doubtful. This legislation is meaningless.

by BJ Lange (langebj@gmail.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 06:33:47 AM EST
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What would you say if Iran's legislature were to declare the US Marine Corps a terrorist organisation?

This legislation is as meaningless as the White House wants to make it, because it contains very loose language about using all means to contain Iran.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 06:52:57 AM EST
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Perfect analogy and would not be surprised to see Iran do just that.

The legislation is meaningless and does not provide cover for Bush to take any action at all even if he wanted to.

by BJ Lange (langebj@gmail.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 06:59:08 AM EST
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Well, I sure hope you're right.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:00:56 AM EST
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Not about Iran legislating the Marines into a list of terrorist, obviously.

We have met the enemy, and it is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:01:44 AM EST
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In the wacky world of Bush-ism, any resolution which isn't explicitly critical and could be taken as being supportive will be touted as if it authorises armed assault.

It's the subtext that matters - are the lawmakers on Bush's side, or are they trying to stop him?

By passing this bill they've stated that they fully support him.

The details are irrelevant compared to the political momentum and positioning.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:21:38 AM EST
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I think you may be correct on the political momentum, but the measure specifically falls short of encouraging military action. It is more like a number of other actions taken by this Congress which have been categorized as "weasel" measures with no real meaning. The measure is in response to the general sentiment against Iran and with both political parties in a bitter struggle for power, every action is to better position themselves.

What I have not read here yet was about last night's debate and the revelation by all three top Democrat candidates for President (Hillary, Obama, Edwards) admitting that they would probably still have American troops in Iraq in 2013. The margin of difference between the current Bush Iraq policy and that of those three candidates is rapidly getting thinner for whatever reasons.

by BJ Lange (langebj@gmail.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 11:26:01 AM EST
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Well, you were half right. It wasn't the Marine Corps instead they chose to designate as terrorists the CIA.
by BJ Lange (langebj@gmail.com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2007 at 10:01:21 AM EST
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But then they maybe see  the marine corps as part of the army as they are all just boys in green.

Life should consist in at least fifty percent pure waste of time, and the rest doing what you please.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun Sep 30th, 2007 at 02:22:33 PM EST
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Mugabe slams Bush "hypocrisy" on human rights

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - Zimbabwe's president, Robert Mugabe, accused U.S. President George W. Bush of "rank hypocrisy" on Wednesday for lecturing him on human rights and likened the U.S. Guantanamo Bay prison to a concentration camp.

"His hands drip with innocent blood of many nationalities," Mugabe said in a typically fiery speech to the U.N. General Assembly. "He kills in Iraq. He kills in Afghanistan. And this is supposed to be our master on human rights?"

Mugabe, 83, in power since independence from Britain in 1980, was speaking the day after Bush scolded the governments of Belarus, Syria, Iran and North Korea as "brutal regimes" in his speech to the General Assembly.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:33:03 AM EST
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THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:07:24 AM EST
BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | NZ police let public write laws
New Zealanders have been given the chance to write their own laws, with a new online tool launched by police.

The "wiki" will allow the public to suggest the wording of a new police act, as part of a government review of the current law, written in 1958.

Police say they hope to gain a range of views from the public on the new law before presenting it to parliament.

The wiki, one of the first of its kind in the world, is open to any internet user, police say.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:11:07 AM EST
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why, oh please tell me why, we can't write our european constitution the same way?

it'd be brilliant.

Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 04:59:00 AM EST
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Someone should start doing it and see if it gains momentum. If it becomes significant enough, it would be hard to ignore.
by Fete des fous on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 06:41:09 PM EST
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He's Happier, She's Less So - New York Times
Last year, a team of researchers added a novel twist to something known as a time-use survey. Instead of simply asking people what they had done over the course of their day, as pollsters have been doing since the 1960s, the researchers also asked how people felt during each activity. Were they happy? Interested? Tired? Stressed?
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Mr. Krueger, analyzing time-use studies over the last four decades, has found an even starker pattern. Since the 1960s, men have gradually cut back on activities they find unpleasant. They now work less and relax more.
Over the same span, women have replaced housework with paid work -- and, as a result, are spending almost as much time doing things they don't enjoy as in the past. Forty years ago, a typical woman spent about 23 hours a week in an activity considered unpleasant, or 40 more minutes than a typical man. Today, with men working less, the gap is 90 minutes.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:11:55 AM EST
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The assumptions in such articles and studies always drive me nuts.  Every mention to women and their needs talks about children as if to say the difference between men and women is children. In the same article they talk of the "imcompleteness of women's lib" without realizing their own stereotypical reinforcement.

He only good point in there is that the women are trying to do everything and the men apparently aren't.  The conclusion logically would follow that unhappy women are trying to do to much and/or have unrealistic expections.

Most american males would probably agree with that one!

by paving on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:22:50 PM EST
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Rethinking Renewables: Biofuels 'Emit More Greenhouse Gases than Fossil Fuels' - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

A team of researchers led by Nobel-prize winning chemist Paul Crutzen has found that growing and using biofuels emits up to 70 percent more greenhouse gases than fossil fuels. They are warning that the cure could end up being worse than the disease.

 Are biofuels a potential climate killler? Biofuels, once championed as the great hope for fighting climate change, could end up being more damaging to the environment than oil or gasoline. A new study has found that the growth and use of crops to make biofuels produces more damaging greenhouse gases than previously thought.

German Nobel-prize winning chemist Paul Crutzen and his team of researchers have calculated the emissions released by the growth and burning of crops such as maize, rapeseed and cane sugar to produce biofuels. The team of American, British and German scientists has found that the process releases twice as much nitrous oxide (N2O) as previously thought. They estimate that 3 to 5 percent of nitrogen in fertilizer is converted and emitted, as opposed to the 2 percent used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its calculations.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:15:31 AM EST
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Does that mean crops that are fed fossil fuel based fertiliser?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 03:20:57 AM EST
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Imagine that~! Next they'll be using fossil fuels to run their tractors and the refining process.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 03:54:27 AM EST
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Don't be silly. That would be a mad way to run things.

Sooner or later the fuel would run out, and then what would they do?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 07:34:38 AM EST
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No telling. I imagine that it would be horrendous.

Not only would there be the cost of repairing all those workers who got ill or injured because they were living their lives with odd chemicals in the air, but there would be workers (what do they call them? people or something like that, no?) Anyway, you'd have these workers who couldn't regenerate their working capacity since so much of heretofore food supply was forthwith'd into the transportation supply. (And yes, I did pedal my bike up and down the hill to the village to get cigars yesterday.)

To say how absurd it could be, there was some swift writer once - must have been science fiction - who speculated that a fictitious country named Ingland so dominated another country name Little Island Filled with Ire, that they took their abundance of food, even though the people were starving. So he had a modest proposal that should perhaps be revisited. I mean, it's not like there aren't 10 million of these potential workers dying of starvation every year.
A Modest Proposal for preventing the children of poor people in Ireland, from being a burden on their parents or country, and for making them beneficial to the publick.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 11:21:00 AM EST
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KLATSCH
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:07:45 AM EST
Good morning!
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 12:34:56 AM EST
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Thank you and more of it to you too.

The report from the Italian French coastal border is that yesterdays rain passed through, leaving behind impressive Sauramann-style clouds. They darken the Med, but don't extend too far out, so there is a silver lining.

Oops. That was 20 minutes ago...I hear thunder to the east, from whence most storms come. Hmmm.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 03:41:36 AM EST
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Cruising through various sites and managed to swing on over to Munseys a source of free texts (books, pamphlets, etc.)  At least one member 'round here will be interested to know they have (AFAIK) everything Thorstein Veblen wrote including two different copies (how different?  Beats me) of Theory of the Leisure Class.  

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!
by ATinNM on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 02:13:37 AM EST
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Good grief.

If you're in the mood to read the ravings of a Class A fruit bat they also have the complete writings of Richard Wagner.  

Och nu den svenska kocken bakar en Alaskan älg jägare. Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!

by ATinNM on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 02:36:15 AM EST
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Am at an internal seminar. There is wifi, but I'm supposed to listn to my bosses...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Sep 27th, 2007 at 05:11:56 AM EST
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