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European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 14 January

by Fran Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:20:21 AM EST

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:51:04 AM EST
BBC NEWS | Europe | EU faces deadline on GM food ban
A deadline for the EU to end restrictions on imports of genetically modified foods is due to expire.

In November 2007, the World Trade Organization (WTO) gave the EU an extra two months to comply with its ruling.

The United States, Argentina and Canada brought the case, arguing their farmers lost money because of GM bans, and may now call for WTO sanctions.

The EU has difficulty complying with the ruling, chiefly because of a ban on GM products by Austria.

The European Commission says it has imposed a regulatory framework but acknowledges there are problems enforcing it.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:05:36 AM EST
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EuroNewsEuroNews : Georgian opposition demonstrate for new ballot
In Georgia, tens of thousands of opposition supporters have been voicing their anger over official confirmation that President Mikhail Saakashvili has been re-elected. The Central Election Commission put him on 53 and a half per cent of the vote, more than twice the share accorded to Levan Gachechiladze, the leading opposition candidate.

The opposition are adamant the vote was rigged. They are taking little notice of the EU's Javier Solana, who called the vote "truly competitive", or the election observers, who said the ballot was competitive and broadly fair.

Leading opponent Salome Zurabishvili said: "We are asking for what is due, which is the second round of these elections. We have counted, we have protested the frauds. We have to get a second round." Despite the strength of feeling which has been simmering since anti-Saakashvili demonstrations in November sparked the election, these protests were peaceful.


"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:08:01 AM EST
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FT.com / World - Ex-minister warns on German economy
The German government and the Social Democratic party are conducting a "lethal" economic policy that could inflict substantial damage on the country, according to Wolfgang Clement, a former economics minister and SPD grandee. His party, junior partner in the ruling coalition, was "gambling away the dividends of past reforms", Mr Clement told the Financial Times.

The attack - by a one-time party vice-chairman and a close ally of Gerhard Schröder, former SPD chancellor - underlines the extent of the party's departure from Mr Schröder's unpopular reform legacy under Kurt Beck, its current chairman who has taken the party sharply to the left.

It also comes at a sensitive time as Mr Beck's strategy, including a campaign for a universal minimum wage, is being tested at three regional elections this month and next. With the grudging approval of Angela Merkel, chancellor, and her Christian Democratic Union, Mr Beck managed to have jobless benefits raised last year and a minimum wage imposed on the postal sector.

Mr Clement said: "I used to shut up but I am too alarmed now . . . Everywhere in Europe resistance [to change] is rising. But you cannot stop change. Our government is not rising to its responsibility." The postal minimum wage, Mr Clement said, had been "a huge mistake". The decision had benefited Deutsche Post, the former state monopoly, against private competitors.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:12:40 AM EST
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I used to shut up

So when was that, Mr Clement? When you were in power with Schröder?

Everywhere in Europe resistance [to change] is rising

Oh, right. See Sarkozy, Nicolas, and Blair, Tony. One is the new president of France and the other is preening for the presidency of the EU. Both are specialists of "reforming" behind a smoke-screen. And where's the resistance?

But you cannot stop change.

Of course. You poor "reformers" are hard-done-by, backs-to-the-wall, the big money is backing the other side and the media are a nest of leftists, but your cause is just and will triumph by manifest destiny.

(Given this kind of sold-out dishrag (Clement), New Labour (all of it), and the behaviour of an entire section of the French socialists with Sarko, is there any doubt the European left needs to redefine itself?)

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 05:09:41 AM EST
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Khaleej Times Online - Sarkozy defends ban on strain of GM corn

PARIS - French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Saturday defended banning a strain of GM corn, as a high-profile activist ended a hunger strike in response and farmers complained politics had trumped science.

Sarkozy said the decision announced late Friday placed France `on the forefront of the environmental debate'.

`It does not mean that France does not participate in GMO research. It does not mean that there will not be GMOs in the future,' he said at a meeting of his Union for a Popular Movement party (UMP).

`It simply means that with the principle of precaution at stake, I am making a major political decision to carry our country to the forefront of the debate on the environment.'

Opponents of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) -- a fiercely contested issue in Europe--welcomed the French government's decision to invoke a European Union procedure to bar the Monsanto 810 maize.

It is the only GM crop grown in France.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:14:40 AM EST
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The decision was made (Sarkozy had really no choice) after the High Authority on GMOs (an official body) reported there were "serious doubts" about the innocuity of MON 810 maize, the only GM crop grown in France (22,000 hectares in 2007). The report cited problems with widespread dissemination of pollen; with destruction of other lepidopterians than the corn-borer which is targeted by this BT maize; and with transmission of the transgene to soil macro- and micro-organisms.

So it was as a result of a very official report that the decision was taken, not because a "high-profile activist" (José Bové) was on a hunger strike. (Though this may have added to pressure on the government, given the recent much-flaunted "Grenelle" conference on the environment).

I'm astounded this official commission came down the way it did, but already some of its members are pulling back. The pro-GM lobby (agro-industry, MinAg, farmers' unions) are going crazy and I think their power is such in France that they will get their way, but not in 2008.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:23:20 AM EST
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EUobserver.com - Turkey set for EU talks with Merkel and Sarkozy
Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is planning to meet German chancellor Angela Merkel and French president Nicolas Sarkozy to discuss Ankara's bid to join the 27-strong bloc.

Mr Erdogan told reporters about the envisaged meeting with German chancellor Angela Merkel and French president Nicolas Sarkozy on Thursday (10 January), during his presentation of the Turkish government's plans for 2008.

"The meeting will be held in Germany and the three of us will discuss together the process ahead," Erdogan told a press conference without giving a specific date for the meeting, AFP has reported.

However, according to diplomats quoted by a number of publications, the talks are expected to take place in the first half of the year.


"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:14:41 AM EST
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FT.com / World - Russia puts Beslan activists on trial
Campaigners who lost their relatives in the Beslan school siege are due to be put on trial in Russia on Monday after prosecutors charged them with extremism for blaming President Vladimir Putin's regime for the 2004 massacre.

The case, brought by prosecutors in the north Caucasus region of Ingushetia, was the latest example of Russian authorities trying to stamp out criticism with a recently toughened extremism law, observers said.

Ever since Mr Putin broadened the definition of extremist activity last year to include "slander of public officials" and "humiliating national pride", officials have used it to launch investigations into journalists, human rights activists and opposition leaders, including Garry Kasparov, the former world chess champion.

"The authorities are doing all they can to close us down," said Ella Kesayeva, co-chairwoman of the Voice of Beslan movement, which last summer filed a case against Russia in the European Court of Human Rights for failing to investigate the massacre properly. The movement is trying to conduct its own investigation.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:17:58 AM EST
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Ah, insulting Russian-ness is to become a crime. Hmm, reminds me of some Turkish law currently held up to international ridicule. Or arresting saudis who notice they don't have any rights.

Do they seriously think it gets them anywehre ? It just breeds cynicism.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:34:02 AM EST
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God, Bush et al would love to see this come to the US.  Goodbye Stewart, Olbermann.  Welcome total tyranny.

BTW, Sunday's games may have set up the Green Bay/New England Super Bowl I mentioned the other day.  Who'd a thunk it.

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 08:36:43 AM EST
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In France, ministers look for a 2nd job - International Herald Tribune

PARIS: The justice minister wants to be a mayor. So does the finance minister. And the culture minister. And the government spokesman.

The races for France's municipal elections in March have not even started, but nearly two-thirds of the 33 members of President Nicolas Sarkozy's cabinet have already transformed themselves into part-time politicians, declaring that they deserve to be the next mayors and deputy mayors of France.

Some, like the education minister, already are mayors and are running for re-election. Others, like the budget minister, are former mayors who want their old jobs back.

"It's a way for a minister to stay in contact with the soil," said Xavier Bertrand, the labor minister, who wants to be deputy mayor of St.-Quentin, a town in northeast France. "It's much better than looking at polls."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:21:06 AM EST
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Europe can't agree on anti-dumping rules - International Herald Tribune
The European Commission has shelved plans to change rules that would allow it to retaliate against countries when goods are sold at below the cost of production in a move that illustrates deep divisions in Europe over how to deal with China's booming exports.

Acknowledging that he has no chance of getting agreement from the 27 EU countries, the EU trade commissioner, Peter Mandelson, said that the proposals would now be delayed.

But the decision also underlined the differences in European capitals over how to deal with the surge of Chinese exports, and with the job losses caused by the outsourcing of production by European countries to Asia. The commission's retreat was seen as a victory for countries including France and Italy that have sought to give European industry greater protection against Chinese imports.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:21:29 AM EST
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Oh, I thought they meant anti-dumping.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:32:56 AM EST
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Poland Demands US Protection as Missile Shield Debate Heats up | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 13.01.2008
Poland finds itself between a rock and hard place in regards to the planned deployment of US missiles on its territory. As a result, the Poles want assurances that they will be protected, whatever their decision.

Poland cranked up the diplomatic heat on Washington Saturday when Defense Minister Bogdan Klich called for a special military treaty ahead of negotiations on a US missile shield in Europe.

Demanding the same agreements and protection afforded the likes of Italy and Turkey, Klich suggested that the United States owed Poland for the support and concessions it had made over the years.

"Special military agreements link the United States with certain allies like Italy or Turkey," Klich told with the Dziennik daily, in an interview ahead of talks in Washington Tuesday. "The signature of such an accord with Poland seems justified in our view given services rendered to the Americans over recent years.

"The reaction by the United States to our expectations will be a sort of test to see if Washington really considers Poland as its partner in central Europe," Klich told the newspaper. At the moment, he added, the United States treats Poland like "a distant cousin."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:24:21 AM EST
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And who will protect Poland from the US government?

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 08:43:22 AM EST
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that is the $64 billion (43 billion euros and falling) question

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 09:17:48 AM EST
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Integration Project Unites Belgians, Expats in Europe's Capital | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 13.01.2008
Brussels, the capital city of Europe, boasts a vibrant international community. So far, they've lived next to, not with, Belgians. A new integration project is trying to change that.

One would think that Brussels was a melting pot of social integration and interaction, given its mix of Flemish and Francophone locals and the large number of international residents tossed in for good measure. But the international community seems to operate safely within its expat comfort zone while the locals get on with their lives alongside the distant foreigners.

 

The King Baudouin Foundation, named after the country's late monarch, is trying to change that. Its breXpat initiative aims to bring expats and local people closer together. Contacts between expats and locals are often limited or non-existent for reasons such has the temporary stay of expats, the language barrier and the financial gap, said breXpat project coordinator Nosheen Shakil.

 

"We hope to start initiatives that bridge the gap between locals and expats," Shakil said. "Locals will, in this way, discover the extra value of living in the capital of Europe and expats will feel less isolated and have the feeling to live in a real country, not on an expat island."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:25:11 AM EST
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EuroNewsEuroNews : Italian anger at dealing with Naples garbage
The fallout of the waste disposal crisis in Naples continues to spread to other parts of Italy. Some 1,500 tonnes of Napolitan garbage has arrived at an incinerator on the island of Sicily, much to the displeasure of the locals. Sicilian authorities reluctantly heeded an appeal to take on some of the rubbish from Naples, where landfill sites have been full since before Christmas. Other regions have refused to help out.

The extra waste has left a bad taste in the mouths of Sicilian residents. One protestor directed his anger at the authorities. "Shame on you," he said, "You're the ones that should be thrown onto the rubbish heap."

An estimated 140,000 tonnes of rubbish has been left uncollected on Napolitan streets. The crisis is a direct threat to public health and the local economy.


"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:26:25 AM EST
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Prodi openly attacked those regions which have refused to cooperate as uncivil. As for the assault against Sardenian Governor Soru's villa many of the demonstrators have been arrested on heavy charges. Investigative magistrates in Naples and elsewhere have adopted very aggressive tactics in dealing with the entire situation. Constant monitoring of the air and the soil are underway as well as the sequestration of  documents throughout the Campania region. Attempts by rightwing extremists to profit from the situation have been systematically repressed.

We can expect sweeping grave charges in the months to come against all the protaganists of this mess.

A case against Cesare Romiti's Impreglio (the same company that is supposed to build the Sicilian bridge) and local authorities has been brought before the European Court. Impreglio is quite competent in dealing with the various mafias at the expense of the citizenry. It is yet another case of the Northern regions, through their mafia-colluded robber barons, fucking over the South and then accusing the South of being responsible for the emergency.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 05:59:05 AM EST
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It doesn't matter whose fault it is; the fact remains that corruption, both low-level and high level seems entirely tolerated by the citizenry. So the development of gangster-related corruption is a natural offshoot of this tolerance and cannot be tackled until people accept they cannot complain about others doing what they do themselves.

The problem for the rest of europe is that these gangsters are now infecting the body politic of the EU. Italy needs a complete reform (in the best possible sense) of its political structures, it is getting to the point where the real threat they pose to the rest of us may require action initiated from outside Italy.

Yes, I am aware that there are gangsters in other countries, especially Bulgaria, but they represent nothing like the clear and present danger of the Camorra and mafias of Italy.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:42:43 AM EST
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The Italian mafias with their international allies are a clear and present danger for Europe. I've pointed this out many times.

As for present tactics of getting Italy more aligned with European standards, it is precisely why Impreglio et al are being dragged before the European Court on the charges of "enviromental disaster." Italians are no longer resorting to the Italian legal system which has been effectively neutered by Berlusconi's laws. They're taking the bastards before international courts.

On another front, Italy may be heavily sanctioned by the EU for the Neapolitan emergency and European funding may be withdrawn on pertinent projects in Campania. Serves us right.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 08:08:00 AM EST
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EU emission limits could drive industries out of Europe | Environment | The Guardian

The European commission will set out new laws next week to impose swingeing limits on greenhouse gas emissions from EU heavy industries in a move that could prompt some of these to relocate lock, stock and barrel overseas.

Draft legislative proposals, due to be published on January 23 and seen by the Guardian, would cut the emissions of some 11,000 plants by 21% on 2005 levels as part of the effort to reduce EU greenhouse gas output by at least 20% by 2020.

They would also force energy companies and refiners to bid at auction for 100% of their pollution permits from 2013 in an effort to avoid the windfall profits of up to £8bn cashed in when the EU's emissions trading scheme (ETS) began in 2005.

The documents, which are still subject to ferocious debates among EC staff and with the 27 national governments, indicate that at least two-thirds of the permits, including for new sectors not in the ETS, would be auctioned from 2013 in an effort to drive up the price of carbon.

At their March summit, EU leaders agreed binding targets to reduce emissions by 20% - 30% if the rest of the industrialised world agreed - and to increase the use of renewable energy to 20% by 2020. The aim is to establish EU leadership in the campaign against climate change and create the first low-carbon economy.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:27:20 AM EST
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the nemission tariffs on imports should be part of the deal. But I bet our dumb neoliberal friends in Brussels wouldn't dream of protecting us in such a way.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:44:09 AM EST
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FT.com / Comment & analysis / Editorial comment - Spain feels the credit squeeze pain
José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, Spain's prime minister, boasts that his country is wealthier than Italy. Overtaking France, he declares, is now a national goal. In the middle of a bitter election campaign, patriotic triumphalism is understandable. But Mr Zapatero could come to regret remarks that also appear hubristic. After three transforming decades, in which the Spanish economy has become a star European performer, it may be about to suffer the consequences of a credit-fuelled spending and property boom.

Only last September, the economic outlook was different. The Socialist government had reason to be satisfied. Growth was cooling and house price inflation slowing. This was a necessary antidote to years of consumer-led exuberance and construction spending, not helped by very low real eurozone interest rates. Third-quarter annual output growth of 3.8 per cent was still well above the long-term average.

Then came the global credit squeeze. With a current account deficit third only to the US in nominal terms and high levels of household debt, it is hard to see how Spain can avoid a serious correction. Inflation in December spiked to its highest in over a decade, house prices are falling and unemployment is rising: a potent cocktail of economic risks.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:28:26 AM EST
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José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, Spain's prime minister, boasts that his country is wealthier than Italy.

Sorry, Zap, it just ain't true. Try next year.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:45:54 AM EST
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Zapatero should know better than to make economic statements and that one was dumb, even if Spain has surpassed Italy in one, not-comparable measure or other.  Obviously the statement was made for national ´consumption´ but there is no such thing.

I hope (dreamer) there are less slips and more clarity in the campaign, now that the legislative has closed until election.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:04:58 PM EST
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100,000 march in Georgia to call for new election - Independent Online Edition > Europe

Tens of thousands of opposition supporters marched in the Georgian capital yesterday against what they denounced as massive vote fraud that helped United States-allied Mikhail Saakashvili to win a second presidential term.

Organisers said 100,000 demonstrators marched for several hours across downtown Tbilisi in freezing weather to demand a recount of the 5 January election. Official results confirmed yesterday that Mr Saakashvili had won enough votes to avoid a second round run-off against second-placed Levan Gachechiladze, who received a quarter of the votes.

Mr Gachechiladze and his supporters denounced the official count as a sham, saying it reflected a massive government effort to rig it. They said election officials responsible for ballot tinkering must be prosecuted, and demanded a run-off between Mr Saakashvili and Mr Gachechiladze.

The opposition leader also demanded regular access to state television, which has focused on covering Mr Saakashvili, 40. "Georgia doesn't have a legitimate president," Mr Gachechiladze told the rally.

Observers from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe gave a mixed assessment of the election, calling it a "triumphant step" for democracy but pointing to an array of violations.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:31:40 AM EST
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How Britain plotted coup d'état to topple Italy's Communists - Independent Online Edition > Europe

Britain and its Nato allies considered organising a coup in Italy in 1976 to prevent the Communist Party from coming to power, Foreign Office papers reveal.

The documents, made public after 30 years, were unearthed by an Italian researcher in the government archives at Kew, Surrey. In 1976, the Cold War was still raging, Henry Kissinger was the US Secretary of State and Italy's political situation was a shambles.

After 30 years of domination by the corrupt Christian Democrat party (DC), the country was ready for change. The Partito Comunista Italiana (PCI), led by the moderate Enrico Berlinguer, was the only political force which seemed to offer it. In an election scheduled for 20 June 1976, there was a strong chance it would beat the Christian Democrats into second place and lead a coalition.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:33:24 AM EST
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For the full scoop in yesterday's Repubblica in three sequential links, it is now available here.

The scoop is of major importance and adds further proof of Atlantic meddling in Italian affairs both for the good and the bad (The English blocked a maverick coup d'ètat in 1969).

The same criteria used in the Condor operation in South America were not applied out of crude realism- the high risk of a full blown civil war and massive repression. Contingency plans had of course long been drawn up (Gladio and Stay Behind). These documents are official state documents and should not be confused with "private" initiatives by groups that enjoyed a certain sympathy in government circles, such as the P2, the OAS, the WACL and rightwing terrorist organizations. It has always been suspected that the assassination of Aldo Moro, a Democrat Christian leader open to Berlinguer's PCI, at the hands of the Red Brigades was manipulated.

A lot of people can throw away their tin foil hats today.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 05:40:21 AM EST
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But the secret services of NATO have been interfering in Italy since before NATO existed. The famous election immediately after WWII where Italian-americans were asked to sende a recommended list of candidates to familiy. The CIA have been active all the way through the 50s and 60s. It's quite evident that the CIA in Italy still regard it as their playground given the kidnaps they did for rendition even a couple of years ago.

The entire political stagnation that exists now is because Italy was on the receiving end of Great Game shenanaigans that destroyed the will/ability of Italy's political elites to manage their own affairs. Berlusconi was the CIA's ultimate wet-dream  democratically elected dictator leader.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:49:34 AM EST
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And in the UK. And - at a guess - the rest of Europe, to varying degrees.

It's not so much that people vote in stupid ways - although they do - but that the game has been fixed since the end of WWII.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 07:09:06 AM EST
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The CIA's involvement in Italian affairs is only a part of the skullduggery.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 08:12:39 AM EST
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Europe takes Africa's fish, and migrants follow - International Herald Tribune
Ale Nodye, the son and grandson of fishermen in this northern Senegalese village, said that for the past six years he netted barely enough fish to buy fuel for his boat. So he jumped at the chance for a new beginning. He volunteered to captain a wooden canoe full of 87 Africans to the Canary Islands in the hopes of making their way illegally to Europe. The 2006 voyage ended badly. He and his passengers were arrested and deported. His cousin died on a similar mission not long afterward. Nonetheless, Nodye, 27, said he intended to try again. "I could be a fisherman there," he said. "Life is better there. There are no fish in the sea here anymore."

Many scientists agree. A vast flotilla of industrial trawlers from the European Union, China, Russia and elsewhere, together with an abundance of local boats, have so thoroughly scoured northwest Africa's ocean floor that major fish populations are collapsing.

That has crippled coastal economies and added to the surge of illegal migrants who brave the high seas in wooden pirogues hoping to reach Europe. While reasons for immigration are as varied as fish species, Europe's lure has clearly intensified as northwest Africa's fish population has dwindled.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:39:22 AM EST
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There just doesn't seem to be any ability at any level to sort out the crisis in world fisheries. The EU could take a lead, but won't. Can't even sort out the North Sea, so sending everybody to destroy fish stocks everywhere else just ignores the problem.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:51:36 AM EST
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Local pressure from the fishing industry - who are too stupid or short-sighted to care about what happens to them in the long run - trumps long-term planning.

Don't worry, the market will solve the problem - fish will become rare delicacies and you'll only eat cod and chips in the highest priced places.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:56:17 AM EST
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FT.com / World - Pound's fall could hit eurozone ties

The sudden fall in sterling could force a realignment of Britain's economic relationship with the eurozone, resulting in potentially painful consequences for both it and the 15-country bloc.

Since November the pound has fallen by almost 9 per cent against the euro - a rate of decline not far off that seen during sterling's enforced exit from the European exchange rate mechanism in 1992, when it fell 11 per cent against Germany's D-Mark.

It is "astonishing how quickly [sterling] has gone down", said Ben Broadbent, of Goldman Sachs. The drop is rekindling memories of "Black Wednesday" in 1992, which helped to bury the then Conservative government's reputation for economic competence. Symbolically troubling, the currency's weakness makes France's economy larger than that of Britain for the first time since 1999.

[...]

But most economists think the adjustment is necessary even if it hurts in the short run. The UK's current account deficit is seen as increasingly unsustainable; it is now the largest among the Group of Seven leading economies after big downward revisions to foreign income at the end of last year.

Sterling's hitherto sustained strength had fooled people into believing "you can run the economy permanently on the back of consumer spending and rising land prices", said Martin Weale, director of the National Institute of Economic and Social Research.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:14:30 AM EST
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WORLD
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:51:34 AM EST
Financial Times: Chinese lose enthusiasm for smaller cars

Car ownership is growing at a rapid rate - turning China into the second largest market in the world.

But, after flirting with smaller vehicles, Chinese consumers are trading up.

In the first 11 months of last year, sales of cars with an engine size of one litre or less fell by 24 per cent, according to the auto industry association - and this in spite of rising petrol prices and a tax policy that encourages smaller engines. Sales of micro and subcompact cars of all engine sizes rose only modestly in the first 11 months of 2007.

It was not immediately clear why smaller cars had fallen out of favour or if the trend would continue, but some observers put the tepid demand down to a mixture of rising wealth disparities and the link between cars and social status in China.

Michael Dunne, managing director of consultants JD Power in Shanghai, says: "It is partly a reflection of income inequality, which has created an urban elite with a lot of money and that wants to buy the very best quality.

"If Chinese can afford a higher-level car, they will go for it, even if it means borrowing money from their family. Image is much more important in China, especially compared with India."

Research by Volkswagen last year found that average Chinese carbuyers spent twice his or her annual salary on the vehicle. Two years ago Su Tianping, a junior manager at Pudong Development Bank in Shanghai, bought a QQ, the microcar made by Chinese company Chery, which was a sales phenomenon in 2005. However, he sold it a few months ago.

"It was OK to drive around home," he says, "but driving a QQ to clients or to a party was a loss of face."



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:03:09 AM EST
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Associated Press: China Closes 11,000 Mines in Crackdown

China has closed more than 11,000 small coal mines as part of a two-year-old safety crackdown aimed at stemming the industry's high death toll, the government reported Sunday.

The total of 11,155 represents 45 percent of all small mines slated for closure <...>

Small mines are responsible for most of the deaths in Chinese mining industry, which last year claimed 3,786 lives. The 2007 death toll marks a major improvement from the year before, but still leaves China's mines as the world's deadliest.

China relies overwhelmingly on coal power, and unscrupulous operators routinely cut corners on safety to cash in on high prices and soaring demand.

Mines closed since the crackdown began in mid-2005 represented 250 million tons of production capacity <...>



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:13:46 AM EST
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I'm impressed. However, if the operators have dubious records on safety, can we presume their ability to run mines in the future has been witheld ?

Also, how were these mines selected ? By inspection or by a stroke of a pen in Beijing ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 07:00:00 AM EST
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if the operators have dubious records on safety, can we presume their ability to run mines in the future has been witheld ?

I don't know.  I would hope that this focus on improving mine safety would be a long term trend that includes improving safety standards and facility infrastructure in those mines that continue to operate, but I cannot say.

A graph from China's State Administration of Work Safety indicates that the trend towards fewer deaths, despite increased reliance on coal, suggests that the government is serious and that these improvements may be long-lasting, but again, only time will tell:

Of course, there is still a long way to go.  Also, one must remember that these are government statistics, and Forbes magazine, for one, while not citing sources, nevertheless raises doubts about the accuracy of the government's figures:

Independent labour groups have long maintained that China's mining death toll is much higher than government figures, with local mine bosses and regional leaders said to be covering up accidents to avoid fines and costly shut downs.

Forbes also reminds us that an underlying, in some ways graver issue, continues to worsen:

Total coal output was estimated at 2.52 bln tons in 2007, up 5 pct from the amount produced the year before, Li [Yizhong, head of the State Administration of Work Safety] said.

Also, how were these mines selected ? By inspection or by a stroke of a pen in Beijing ?

Don't know.  I looked through a few articles, but the only clue was that Xinhua (via China.org.cn) uses the phrase "small, illegal mining operations" while the AP article above mentions "unscrupulous operators".

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 09:40:44 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Americas | Freed Colombia hostage sees son
A woman who gave birth to a boy while she was being held hostage by Farc rebels in Colombia has been reunited with her child after being freed.

Clara Rojas' son, Emmanuel, fathered by one of the rebels, was taken from her aged eight months suffering from malnutrition and tropical diseases.

Now nearly four, he has been living in a foster home in Bogota.

A government official present at the reunion said that it was "a very emotional moment".

Clara Rojas and fellow hostage Consuelo Gonzalez were freed on Thursday, after prolonged efforts by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to broker the release.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:22:28 AM EST
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Foreign Minister Calmy-Rey says Switzerland's role in Colombian hostage release was "discreet". - swissinfo
Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey has praised the discreet Swiss role played in the liberation on Thursday of two women held by left-wing rebels in Colombia.

However, she said media pressure surrounding another hostage - former Colombian presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt - might be negative.

"We prepared the groundwork which made the release possible," while working "in the background" Calmy-Rey explained in an interview with the Lausanne newspaper Le Matin.

She said Switzerland had been the first country to have contact with rebels of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc) regarding the hostages.

"We were the first to have signs of life of the hostages in 2003." She said it was clear that Swiss action had helped Thursday's release of Clara Rojas and Consuelo González.

Asked about Switzerland's role as a facilitator, Calmy-Rey said it had not been "without danger" because "we went... into the jungle to the Farc. It was not only discussions among officials".

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:23:26 AM EST
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The Daily Star - Business Articles - Sarkozy starts Gulf sales tour in Riyadh

RIYADH: French President Nicolas Sarkozy flew in to Saudi Arabia on Sunday at the launch of a three-nation Gulf Arab tour, ready to share France's expertise in nuclear technology. He landed in Saudi Arabia as US President George W. Bush tours the region to rally support for his policy of isolating Iran over its nuclear activities.

Sarkozy is on his first trip to the region since taking office in May and will visit three energy-rich Gulf states.

The French presidential Airbus plane touched down at King Khaled International Airport shortly after 1500 GMT, where Saudi King Abdullah welcomed the French leader, an AFP correspondent said.

The Saudi monarch was to host a dinner banquet for Sarkozy in the evening, ahead of a bilateral talks and the signing of four agreements to bolster cooperation foremost on political and energy issues.

In an interview published Sunday by pan-Arab daily Al-Hayat, Sarkozy described Saudi Arabia as a key ally of France and a "pole of moderation and stability" in a troubled region.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:29:12 AM EST
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Reuters: INTERVIEW-China seen surging to top wind turbine maker in 09

China will leap to be the top wind turbine producer in 2009, transforming an already fast-growing renewable energy sector, a leading wind power industry official said. Steve Sawyer, secretary general of the Global Wind Energy Council (GWEC), said wind could supply 12 percent of world electricity needs by 2020 against just over one percent in 2007 in a shift that would help curb climate change.

"We'd expect that the domestic Chinese manufacturers will have an annual production capacity of about 10 gigawatts per year...by the end of 2009," he told Reuters on Tuesday. GWEC represents more than 1,500 wind firms in more than 50 nations.

Ten gigawatts would be more than half of the current world market -- in 2007, 17-19 gigawatts of wind energy capacity were added worldwide, raising the cumulative total to above 90 gigawatts.

<...>

"For my members now, one of the big issues is to prepare for the onslaught of relatively inexpensive Chinese turbines onto the world market," Sawyer said, adding that no Chinese companies were now exporting.

<...>

"One of the nice things about wind power is that if you decide to deploy it, it happens very quickly if you have the planning permission," he said. "In China, when the government has given the green light, things happen pretty quickly."

<...>

Of the 2007 totals of 17-19 gigawatts new capacity, about four were installed in the United States, three in China and between eight and 10 in Europe. "It's far and away the fastest growing part of the energy sector," he said.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:47:00 AM EST
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that looks interesting. good for them for grasping the nettle.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 07:01:47 AM EST
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Here is a profile of the gentleman quoted in the article, Steve Sawyer, Secretary General of Global Wind Energy Council, quoted in this article.

The GWEC website's Events page frontpages

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on October 29-31.  GWEC is listed as organizer of this conference, which will be "hosted" by the Chinese Renewable Energy Industries Association (CREIA) and the Chinese Wind Energy Association (CWEA).

Maybe the Reuters interview is part of a subtle publicity campaign for this event?

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:02:52 AM EST
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Jerome ... anything?

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 08:46:23 AM EST
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This may well be the case, with the underlying reason being that depending on whose stats you use, China's bulding a power plant equivalent a week.  Industry analysts (such as meself) have pointed to the intensive investment into the entire supply chain in China over the past years, beginning over a decade ago.  The lion's share of the technology is European, usually by license though not limited to that.  Besides complete turbines, there are numbers of main shaft, gearbox, generator and blade facilities built in partnership with reputable European companies.  One reason for these licenses or joint ventures is that the Chinese law stating the turbines must be 70% locally made came into effect in 2006.

There is a critical downside, however.  Quality control is not purchasable.  Hardening and finishing gear teeth, for example, demands incredible skill, and comes from serious engineering.  There's a reason why most of the world's gear boxes (outside China and perhaps India) still come from European factories.

Chinese turbines do not reach the performance levels of similar European machines, despite the fact that most of them are licenses of European products.  They will not reach such high levels without some years of evolution.

Further exacerbating the situation is the global turbine shortage.  Many developers, who get paid when hardware on the ground is commissioned, don't care what they put there.  Especially if it's cheaper, resulting in new companies claiming licenses from reputable firms but who have never built anything, much less a turbine.  Greed is a factor in China now as well.

Still, Chinese turbines are predominantly for the home market, where it is understood that maturity takes time.  We will likely see Chinese components exported to Europe before we see complete turbines.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:03:35 AM EST
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There is a critical downside, however.  Quality control is not purchasable.  Hardening and finishing gear teeth, for example, demands incredible skill, and comes from serious engineering.  There's a reason why most of the world's gear boxes (outside China and perhaps India) still come from European factories.

Sounds very much like what a friend of mine tells me (among others).  He is a Boston-based biomechanical engineering student who worked as a liaison for a U.S. machine tool manufacturer and their Chinese subsidiary.  The lack of finesse, attention to detail, and robustness he saw on a regular basis in that job, and sees in daily life, drives him crazy.

It is commonly asserted that Japanese products were reputed to be of shabby quality before W. Edwards Deming, during the summer of 1950, went to Japan and taught the Japanese quality control concepts and techniques whose subsequent implementation brought Japanese manufacturers "theretofore unheard of levels of quality and productivity", for which the Deming Prize was awarded in his honor.

While ambition, diligence and perseverance is often attested to in recent times, finesse and attention to detail, as I mentioned above, are not qualities one hears commonly attributed to Chinese workers and managers.  And yet, my sense is that traditionally, these two were highly valued elements of the Chinese work ethic.  One can see this in small, yet significant ways, in the way the Chinese currently teach and practice traditional arts such as calligraphy, martial arts (e.g. tai qi, kung fu), traditional medicine, cuisine, and so on.  Startling evidence of this can be seen in the huge collections of crafts, art, and technological artefacts displayed in museums, notably the Shanghai Museum.  And while this ethic has been exploded by the chaos, brutalities and perversions that afflicted Chinese society over the last 150 years, and deprived of oxygen by the crude rush towards riches since the country's opening up in the late 70's, I believe that -- as in Japan -- the Chinese can recover, apply, extend and continue developing this work ethic in modern business, manufacturing, and technology, and not only among a minority elite, but among an increasingly large middle class.

Well, this is hope as much as belief, based on the little I have gathered so far, and there are some significant differences between Japanese and Chinese culture and socioeconomic circumstances that may mean the Chinese road to quality control and technological sophistication will be quite different, and perhaps longer, than Japan's.  In any case, the proof of the pudding will be in running those wind turbines.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:04:21 AM EST
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I have to agree bruno-ken. The Chinese "road to quality" will likely take a different route to that of Japan, but there's no reason to think they cannot travel it in some way. The history and culture of China is full of examples of craftsmanship and innovative production techniques.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 12:34:16 PM EST
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I did not wish to give the impression that i didn't believe China was capable of manufacturing high quality products, only that it will take some time before we see that in effect.  Never forget that modern wind turbines are very sophisticated technology.

In fact, many of the turbines produced in China are older technology from Europe, with smaller nameplate capacity ratings.  It is not uncommon to find 600 to 800 kilowatt turbines; they may even be the majority.  Remember that servicing the modern 75 to 90 meter rotor diameter machines (2 to 3 MW) involves a sophisticated, experienced network.  That won't be built overnight in China.

When manufacturer X can't get it's 90m turbines in Greece or Portugal to even approach European availability standards, they certainly are not going to risk building them in China yet.  They are better served licensing older, smaller design upon which the Chinese infrastructure can be built.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin

by Crazy Horse on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:10:37 PM EST
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I did not wish to give the impression that i didn't believe China was capable of manufacturing high quality products, only that it will take some time before we see that in effect.  Never forget that modern wind turbines are very sophisticated technology.

And I did not wish to give the impression that you gave that impression!  Kidding aside, I completely understood your point, and it did not surprise me to read it.  I just wanted to sound out some reasons as to why that might be the case, and why it is reasonable to suppose that Chinese quality control can and will be improved going forward.  (It is a question I have been giving some thought to recently prompted by other things.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:26:31 PM EST
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That makes a lot of sense, bruno-ken and reminds me of a Spanish phrase, which sounds unPC:  "That´s work for Chinese".  It means it is highly skilled and with minute detail, as in old Chinese crafts.  

Going back to traditional quality, versus mass quantity should be a progressive value.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 04:00:44 PM EST
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Going back to traditional quality, versus mass quantity should be a progressive value.

Absolutely.  Someone recently posted a comment or diary about this notion, but I cannot recall who or when exactly.  The take-away that I got was that continuous economic growth could be sustainable, but that such growth would not track "stuff", but ever higher levels of "intricacy", "quality", "complexity", that sort of thing.  (I am guessing it was Migeru, Colman or rdf, but I am really not sure.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:31:04 PM EST
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FT.com / In depth - US warns Kenya
As police put the death toll in post-election unrest in Kenya at more than 700, the United States, the country's biggest aid donor, has warned both the government and opposition that it cannot conduct "business as usual" in the East African nation.

"As a major player, we need to voice our concern in the most forceful manner possible," said a US official, after Jendayi Frazer, assistant secretary of state for African affairs, issued a statement expressing her deep disappointment at the failure of President Mwai Kibaki and opposition leader Raila Odinga to hold head-to-head talks. "We cannot just ignore it."

The US government is considering pruning parts of its $1bn annual lending programme - those outside the health sector -- and issuing travel bans against perceived hardliners in the government and opposition. European Union ambassadors are also trying to hammer out a common position in the wake of a December 27 poll marred by vote-counting irregularities.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:49:34 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Middle East | 'Core issues' on Mid-East agenda
Israeli and Palestinian negotiators will begin discussions on what are regarded as the core issues in the peace process when they meet on Monday.

These include the status of Jerusalem, the borders of a Palestinian state, Jewish settlements in the West Bank, refugees, security and water resources.

The negotiations will be led by Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and former Palestinian Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:52:21 AM EST
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Landslide victory for Nationalists in Taiwan - International Herald Tribune
A landslide victory for the opposition Kuomintang Party in parliamentary elections in Taiwan has delivered a blow to the governing Democratic Progressive Party's prospects of retaining power in the March 22 presidential election.

The Kuomintang, or Nationalists, had been widely expected to perform strongly, but the scale of its success Saturday surprised political analysts and could sharply reduce the political influence of Chen Shui-bian, the pro-independence Taiwan president, in the remaining months of his second and final term.

A resurgent Kuomintang, which now holds almost three quarters of the seats in the self-ruling island's Legislative Yuan, also holds out the prospect of reduced tension across the Taiwan Strait, analysts said.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:58:55 AM EST
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FT.com / Companies / Middle-East & Africa - Kuwait set to invest as Merrill seeks $4bn

Merrill Lynch is seeking about $4bn in a second capital raising, as the hole in the US investment bank's balance sheet continues to grow.

The Kuwait Investment Authority is expected to be a significant investor in the new deal, which could be announced as soon as midweek, according to people familiar with the matter. Other investors could come from Europe.

KIA, which may also invest as much as $2bn or $3bn in Citigroup, is emerging as an large source of rescue finance on Wall Street. Once among the most conservative of sovereign wealth funds, KIA is changing its strategy in order to move more quickly than competitors and seize opportunities amid the turmoil in the US credit markets, these people say. Both Merrill and KIA declined to comment.

Both the price and the terms of the deals at Citi and Merrill are still being negotiated.

The latest round of capital raising comes at the start of a round of earnings reports during which big US banks and brokers are expected to reveal as much as $40bn in further mortgage-related writedowns. Action taken by Citi and Merrill will be closely watched by other institutions



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:00:41 AM EST
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Americans Cut Back Sharply on Spending - New York Times
Strong evidence is emerging that consumer spending, a bulwark against recession over the last year even as energy prices surged and the housing market sputtered, has begun to slow sharply at every level of the American economy, from the working class to the wealthy.

The abrupt pullback raises the possibility that the country may be experiencing a rare decline in personal consumption, not just a slower rate of growth. Such a decline would be the first since 1991, and it would almost certainly push the entire economy into a recession in the middle of an election year.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:01:47 AM EST
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FT.com / Companies / Middle-East & Africa - Kuwait set to invest as Merrill seeks $4bn
Merrill Lynch is seeking about $4bn in a second capital raising, as the hole in the US investment bank's balance sheet continues to grow. The Kuwait Investment Authority is expected to be a significant investor in the new deal, which could be announced as soon as midweek, according to people familiar with the matter. Other investors could come from Europe.

KIA, which may also invest as much as $2bn or $3bn in Citigroup, is emerging as an large source of rescue finance on Wall Street. Once among the most conservative of sovereign wealth funds, KIA is changing its strategy in order to move more quickly than competitors and seize opportunities amid the turmoil in the US credit markets, these people say. Both Merrill and KIA declined to comment.

The latest round of capital raising comes at the start of a round of earnings reports during which big US banks and brokers are expected to reveal as much as $40bn in further mortgage-related writedowns. Action taken by Citi and Merrill will be closely watched by other institutions

Citi is expected to announce a writedown of close to $20bn and present plans to raise as much as $14bn in new capital from the Chinese and public market investors as well as the KIA. Analysts expect Vikram Pandit, Citi's recently installed chief executive, to slash the dividend 40 per cent or more to improve Citi's capital position. The infusion would follow the $7.5bn Citi raised from the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority in late November.

Merrill Lynch on Thursday is expected to announce a writedown of $10bn to $20bn. Brad Hintz, Sanford Bernstein analyst, said a writedown of more than $20bn "would significantly increase leverage and would threaten the credit ratings of the firm". Any new capital infusion from the KIA and others would follow the $6.4bn Merrill raised last month from Temasek, the Singapore government fund, and Davis Selected Advisors, a New York-based asset manager



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:06:31 AM EST
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With the dollar tanking and many in the Gulf looking to lose dollars, can anyone explain why Kuwait should want to buy in ? It seems to me that it's a sure fire loser in the short and medium term and the long term prospects are not bright either.

So, is this a political move ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 07:04:58 AM EST
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At this level, are politics and economics ever completely separate?

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 08:49:18 AM EST
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FT.com / Companies / Europe - Kazakhs in Kashagan accord with consortium
Kazakhstan agreed a deal with an Eni-led consortium on Sunday night to develop the Kashagan oilfield.

The consortium - which includes ExxonMobil of the US, Royal Dutch Shell and Total of France - agreed to pay Kazakhstan $2.5bn-$4.5bn in compensation for the project's late start.

It will also sell shares to KazMunaigas , so the Kazakhstan national oil company's stake can be doubled to 16.8 per cent, equalling the holdings of the largest western members of the consortium. KMG will take a bigger role in running the project.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:09:13 AM EST
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FT.com / Companies / Energy Utilities Mining - GE to double renewable energy investment
General Electric will on Monday announce plans to double its investments in renewable energies to $6bn by 2010 in the latest sign of a push by big companies to capitalise on concerns over global warming and pollution.

The financial arm of the US conglomerate believes that within two years alternative sources such as wind and solar power will account for almost a quarter of its total investments in energy and water, up from 10 per cent in 2006.

The move by GE, which has been at the forefront of corporate America's efforts to respond to environmental fears, underlines the desire by traditional industrial companies to gain critical mass in "greener industries"



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:16:11 AM EST
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FT.com / Companies / Europe - UBS woos staff with bonus share sale plan
UBS is trying to persuade investment bankers to stick with the company by allowing them to sell some of their share-based bonuses after just one year. The bankers'cash bonuses are due to be slashed this year after the Swiss group's 2007 profits were wiped out by losses relating to the meltdown in the US subprime mortgage market.

UBS upset employees by capping the cash portion of bonuses and announcing plans to pay the rest in stock. But people close to the bank said it told staff that they could sell the additional shares after 12 months, rather than waiting the usual three years.

Executives said UBS's depressed valuation made share-based bonuses more attractive than in previous years. The bank's efforts highlight the difficulties investment banks face in rewarding and keeping staff after a year when fixed-income losses wiped out record profits in other businesses, such as commodities and mergers and acquisitions.

Citigroup and Merrill Lynch, the US banks worst affected by the crisis, will give an indication this week of how they have tackled the bonus issue when they report full-year earnings. The banks, which both have new chief executives, are expected to boost payments as they strive to retain bankers who might otherwise defect to rival institutions.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:20:56 AM EST
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Melanchthon:
UBS is trying to persuade investment bankers to stick with the company by allowing them to sell some of their share-based bonuses after just one year.

What I don't get is where the disaffected investment bankers are going to go. The only company in this sector that made money last year is Goldman Sachs, and they can't all hire on there. And the credit crisis has already put a big crimp in this business.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:47:19 AM EST
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Asia Times: China's labor law a last straw for Taiwanese

A bit old (2007/12/14), but just found it, and I believe relevant in the context of Chinese labour law reforms threaten world.

Faced with shortages of land, electricity, water, labor and raw materials, Taiwan-backed manufacturers in the Pearl River Delta have been confronted with unprecedented challenges in recent years. Now, with the Law of the People's Republic of China on Employment Contracts scheduled to take effect on January 1, their situation may become even more untenable. The legislation has many Taiwanese businessmen in the area thinking seriously of shuttering their businesses and relocating outside of China. <...>

China's National People's Congress passed the Law of Employment Contracts on June 29, 2007. It formalizes workers' rights concerning overtime hours, pensions, layoffs, employment contracts and the role of trade unions. Considered one of the strictest in the world, it is stirring apprehensions most in the ranks of Taiwan's China-based small and medium enterprises - operations that are usually too small to support a professional human resource management framework.

Among other mandates, the law requires employers to sign written contracts with every employee. Also, after two contract renewals, workers automatically earn the right to work for the employer indefinitely. Employees can only be let go for clear cause and would still receive a pension. In the expanded role for trade unions, employers will be required to consult with them before making rules and regulations, concluding employment contracts or implementing economic dismissals.

The bill was the first major national law in China circulated in adance to gauge public reaction. As a result more than 191,800 separate comments were received via the Internet, newspapers, periodicals, and letters soon after the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress launched the plan.

Hsiao Hsin-yung, a human resource consultant specializing in China's labor regulations, suggested that complying with the law could increase the operating costs of Taiwanese manufacturers by some 30%, creating a heavy burden for already struggling enterprises.

''This law simply leans too heavily toward laborers,'' Hsiao said. ''But it is the nature of the Communist Party to protect workers.''

How twisted has the world become when that last sentence on the face of it sounds ridiculous?

I asked an Italian classmate of mine, who is considering working in China after finishing Mandarin studies, if he thinks these new labor laws would be really enforced and taken seriously.  He said, "Absolutely", and mentioned an Italian company that had been recently punished for violating labor laws.  However, he could not recall which company it was, and when I googled it, I came up with an Italian furniture maker named DeCoro that "had violated China's labour law in many aspects":

Workers at Italian-invested furniture factory DeCoro in Shenzhen who were beaten by their Italian supervisors over pay cut disputes revealed that the company had violated China's labour law in many aspects.

Liang Tian, one of the workers beaten by the Italian supervisors, told China Labour Bulletin that workers at the DeCoro factory had no day offs on Saturdays and Sundays. If they wanted to have day offs on Sundays, they would have to finish their Sunday work quotas on Saturdays. Their monthly salary was 2,000 to 3,000 yuan (about US$250 to 375), relatively high compared with other workers in Shenzhen, but they did not have pension, medical insurance and work injury insurance. The company's practice has in fact violated China's Labour Law. According to Article 36 of PRC's Labour Law, the government institutes "a working hour system by which every worker shall not work more than eight hours a day and the average working hours per week shall not exceed 44 hours." Article 73 of the Labour Law also stipulated that "workers shall enjoy social insurance treatment according to law...including retirement, falling ill or suffering job injuries..."

Italian sofa maker in Shenzhen violates China's labour law, no OSH

But this was back in 2005 and therefore must have violated earlier versions of China's labor laws.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 12:43:53 PM EST
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THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:52:06 AM EST
BBC NEWS | UK | England | Cambridgeshire | Ballet dancer, 88, takes to stage
An 88-year-old man is set to star in his first ballet show after taking up dance at the age of 79.

Grandfather to 11, John Lowe, of Witchford, Cambs, took up dancing having watched his daughter Alison become a professional dancer.

The retired teacher said: "It's a wonderful thing to do and I can't understand why more men don't do it."

Mr Lowe is due to appear with the Lantern Dance Theatre Company, in Ely, on Sunday evening.

Pirouettes have been perfected in daily practice at home ahead of Mr Lowe's performance in Prokofiev's The Stone Flower at The Maltings.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:16:37 AM EST
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FT.com / World - French wine sales risk losing fizz
Sterling's fall against the euro could hurt France's producers of bubbly, given that Britain is the largest export market for champagne with an annual consumption of about 40m bottles a year.

Frédéric Heidsieck, of Louis Roederer champagne, said the fall in the pound was a problem as the euro was "too strong at the moment"."Our job is to make wine, not juggle currencies," he said. "We don't have the means to deal with this. I would like to see the euro go down a little bit, and have the European Central Bank make the euro weaken a little bit. But the ECB is only focused on inflation."

Still, some of the region's producers are more worried about the fall of the dollar against the euro than they are about sterling's decline."We are not expecting any slowdown in our exports to Britain because of the exchange rate," said Alexis Petit-Gats of Canard-Duchêne champagne.



"Dieu se rit des hommes qui se plaignent des conséquences alors qu'ils en chérissent les causes" Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet
by Melanchthon on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:32:32 AM EST
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PM backs removal of body parts without consent - Independent Online Edition > UK Politics

Gordon Brown is sympathetic to calls for hospitals to be allowed to remove organs from dead patients without explicit consent, but families would have a veto which would allow them to stop organs being used to save the lives of others if, as expected, the Government brings in a system of "presumed consent".

People could also opt out of the national register during their lives, in contrast to the current system of opting in and carrying a donor card.

Officials said Mr Brown had an "open mind" about the idea, but wanted a national debate before the Government takes a decision. A taskforce on organ donations will consider the proposal later this year.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:40:22 AM EST
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I'll believe it when I see it. There have been talks about talks about opting out rather than opting in to trasplant schemes since I was a child, and it's never gone anywhere.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 07:07:19 AM EST
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I wonder if/when the real fun will begin.  You know, medical folks have discovered that Dick Cheney needs your 5 year old daughter's liver enzymes to maintain his youth so they simply come to your door and haul you all away for "terrorist processing".  That is just down the road, if you squint.

I have a t-shirt with that on it. And whatever you do, DON'T BLINK!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 08:54:56 AM EST
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Escalating Ice Loss Found in Antarctica - washingtonpost.com

Climatic changes appear to be destabilizing vast ice sheets of western Antarctica that had previously seemed relatively protected from global warming, researchers reported yesterday, raising the prospect of faster sea-level rise than current estimates.

While the overall loss is a tiny fraction of the miles-deep ice that covers much of Antarctica, scientists said the new finding is important because the continent holds about 90 percent of Earth's ice, and until now, large-scale ice loss there had been limited to the peninsula that juts out toward the tip of South America. In addition, researchers found that the rate of ice loss in the affected areas has accelerated over the past 10 years -- as it has on most glaciers and ice sheets around the world.

"Without doubt, Antarctica as a whole is now losing ice yearly, and each year it's losing more," said Eric Rignot, lead author of a paper published online in the journal Nature Geoscience.

The Antarctic ice sheet is shrinking despite land temperatures for the continent remaining essentially unchanged, except for the fast-warming peninsula.

The cause, Rignot said, may be changes in the flow of the warmer water of the Antarctic Circumpolar Current that circles much of the continent. Because of changed wind patterns and less-well-understood dynamics of the submerged current, its water is coming closer to land in some sectors and melting the edges of glaciers deep underwater.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:59:18 AM EST
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Team Creates Rat Heart Using Cells of Baby Rats - New York Times

Medicine's dream of growing new human hearts and other organs to repair or replace damaged ones received a significant boost Sunday when University of Minnesota researchers reported success in creating a beating rat heart in a laboratory.

Experts not involved in the Minnesota work called it "a landmark achievement" and "a stunning" advance. But they and the Minnesota researchers cautioned that the dream, if it is ever realized, was still at least 10 years away.

Dr. Doris A. Taylor, the head of the team that created the rat heart, said she followed a guiding principle of her laboratory: "give nature the tools, and get out of the way."

"We just took nature's own building blocks to build a new organ," Dr. Taylor said of her team's report in the journal Nature Medicine.

The researchers removed all the cells from a dead rat heart, leaving the valves and outer structure as scaffolding for new heart cells injected from newborn rats. Within two weeks, the cells formed a new beating heart that conducted electrical impulses and pumped a small amount of blood.

With modifications, scientists should be able to grow a human heart by taking stem cells from a patient's bone marrow and placing them in a cadaver heart that has been prepared as a scaffold, Dr. Taylor said in a telephone interview from her laboratory in Minneapolis. The early success "opens the door to this notion that you can make any organ: kidney, liver, lung, pancreas -- you name it and we hope we can make it," she said.



The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:03:25 AM EST
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You're both probably aware of this college course specialising in windfarm technology, but just in case

DailyKos - Stranded Wind - "Al Zeitz/Iowa Lakes Community College"

Iowa Lakes Community College runs a Wind Energy Operations and Maintenance (O+M) training program already recognized as the best in the country and it may very well be the best in the world.

Last week we caught up with the unassuming retired Marine behind this program, Al Zeitz, and got the inside story on how ILCC came to be the only wind energy program in the country operating their own full sized turbine.



keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:24:00 AM EST
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Aside from the "best in the world" hype which is now de rigeur in the canon of the US, it is a good program.  But it is certainly not alone.  The Rosebud Sioux for example have been training on their own turbine for many years at their community college.  More importantly, there were even more developed programs (Red Wing, Minnesota) which ran from the eighties into the nineties, which were stopped and lost because of amurka's inability to address rational or even competent energy policy.

"Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage." - Anaïs Nin
by Crazy Horse on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:17:10 PM EST
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Let´em know at dk, please.  

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.
by metavision on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 04:57:28 PM EST
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Wall Street Journal: The Lost Archive

Missing for half a century, a cache of photos spurs sensitive research on Islam's holy text

On the night of April 24, 1944, British air force bombers hammered a former Jesuit college here housing the Bavarian Academy of Science. The 16th-century building crumpled in the inferno. Among the treasures lost, later lamented Anton Spitaler, an Arabic scholar at the academy, was a unique photo archive of ancient manuscripts of the Quran.

The 450 rolls of film had been assembled before the war for a bold venture: a study of the evolution of the Quran, the text Muslims view as the verbatim transcript of God's word. The wartime destruction made the project "outright impossible," Mr. Spitaler wrote in the 1970s.

Mr. Spitaler was lying. The cache of photos survived, and he was sitting on it all along. The truth is only now dribbling out to scholars -- and a Quran research project buried for more than 60 years has risen from the grave.

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Information about the archive's survival has just begun trickling out to the wider scholarly community. Why Mr. Spitaler hid it remains a mystery. His only published mention of the archive's fate was a footnote to an article in a 1975 book on the Quran. Claiming the bulk of the cache had been lost during the war, he wrote cryptically that "drastically changed conditions after 1945" ruled out any rebuilding of the collection.

Cribbed the "Da Vinci Code" allusion from the irrepressible Spengler's latest column, though upon reading the original Wall Street Journal article, the purported similarity to Dan Brown's tale is more superficial and speculative than substantial:

The story thus far recalls the ending of another Indiana Jones film (Raiders of the Lost Ark), in which the Ark of the Covenant is filed away in an enormous warehouse, presumably never to be touched again. The Muslim world will continue to treat Koranic criticism as an existential risk, and apply whatever pressure is required to discourage it - albino monks presumably included.

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Why were the Nazis so eager to suppress Koranic criticism? Most likely, the answer lies in their alliance with Islamist leaders, who shared their hatred of the Jews and also sought leverage against the British in the Middle East. The most recent of many books on this subject, Matthias Kuntzel's Jihad and Jew-Hatred, was reviewed January 13 in the New York Times by Jeffrey Goldberg...

Nevertheless, the Wall Street Journal article points out:

Ms. Neuwirth, the Berlin professor now in charge of the Munich archive, rejects the theories of her more radical colleagues, who ride roughshod, she says, over Islamic scholarship. Her aim, she says, isn't to challenge Islam but to "give the Quran the same attention as the Bible." All the same, she adds: "This is a taboo zone."

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Many Christians, too, dislike secular scholars boring into sacred texts, and dismiss challenges to certain Biblical passages. But most accept that the Bible was written by different people at different times, and that it took centuries of winnowing before the Christian canon was fixed in its current form.

Muslims, by contrast, view the Quran as the literal word of God. Questioning the Quran "is like telling a Christian that Jesus was gay," says Abdou Filali-Ansary, a Moroccan scholar.

Modern approaches to textual analysis developed in the West are viewed in much of the Muslim world as irrelevant, at best. "Only the writings of a practicing Muslim are worthy of our attention," a university professor in Saudi Arabia wrote in a 2003 book. "Muslim views on the Holy Book must remain firm: It is the Word of Allah, constant, immaculate, unalterable and inimitable."

In this vein, Spengler raises the provocative question, concerning what investigations of the "lost archive" could reveal:

What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources? That would be the precise equivalent of proving that the Jesus Christ of the Gospels really was a composite of several individuals, some of whom lived a century or two apart.


Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 12:07:12 PM EST
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This is potentially very controversial stuff. Great find, bruno-ken!
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 12:36:44 PM EST
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What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources?

The first part of the sentence is already pretty clear : the Koran was put into writing 50 years after the death of Muhammad ; that is uncontroversial in most Islamic circles.

Also, that the Koran was told by a man named Mohammad over the course of his life isn't very hard to detect : Mohammad, unlike Jesus, is an historical character. It is known were parts of the Koran were told, and indeed the parts told after Mohammad was an temporal ruler are more clear about enunciating rules and laws.

Not all Islamic scholars are as boneheaded as the more radical ones.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 05:31:33 PM EST
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What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources?

The first part of the sentence is already pretty clear : the Koran was put into writing 50 years after the death of Muhammad ; that is uncontroversial in most Islamic circles.

Not so clear, since the orthodox of version of the Qur'an generally accepted today was supposedly compiled by Zayd ibn Thabit and compiled by the 3rd caliph Uthman ibn Affan in about 650, i.e. only 18 years after Muhammad's death, and thus reasonably early enough to imagine that some supernatural being dictated divine proclamations to Muhammad who re-articulated them to his community whose oral tradition could have preserved the original words intact until they were standardized by Uthman.

However, the more important point is whether strong evidence can be put forth that makes clear to the majority of Muslims (that is, not just scholars and intellectuals) the fundamentally mundane origins of their holy text.

In fact, the "earliest Qur'an known to exist", the Sana'a manuscripts, discovered in Yemen in 1972, which were carbon-dated to 645-690 AD (according to that Wikipedia article quoting Carole Hillenbrand, The New Cambridge Medieval History, vol. 1, p.330), i.e. a couple of decades after Muhammed's death:

... some of these fragments revealed small but intriguing aberrations from the standard Koranic text [i.e. the one compiled by Uthman ibn Affan]. Such aberrations, though not surprising to textual historians, are troublingly at odds with the orthodox Muslim belief that the Koran as it has reached us today is quite simply the perfect, timeless, and unchanging Word of God.

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To date just two scholars have been granted extensive access to the Yemeni fragments: [Gerd-R.] Puin [a specialist in Arabic calligraphy and Koranic paleography based at Saarland University, in Saarbrücken, Germany] and his colleague H.-C. Graf von Bothmer, an Islamic-art historian also based at Saarland University. Puin and Von Bothmer have published only a few tantalizingly brief articles in scholarly publications on what they have discovered in the Yemeni fragments. They have been reluctant to publish partly because until recently they were more concerned with sorting and classifying the fragments than with systematically examining them, and partly because they felt that the Yemeni authorities, if they realized the possible implications of the discovery, might refuse them further access. Von Bothmer, however, in 1997 finished taking more than 35,000 microfilm pictures of the fragments, and has recently brought the pictures back to Germany. This means that soon Von Bothmer, Puin, and other scholars will finally have a chance to scrutinize the texts and to publish their findings freely--a prospect that thrills Puin. "So many Muslims have this belief that everything between the two covers of the Koran is just God's unaltered word," he says. "They like to quote the textual work that shows that the Bible has a history and did not fall straight out of the sky, but until now the Koran has been out of this discussion. The only way to break through this wall is to prove that the Koran has a history too. The Sana'a fragments will help us to do this."

What Is the Koran?", The Atlantic Monthly 1999 January

The Wall Street Journal article notes:

In the early 1980s, when the archive was still thought to be lost, two German scholars traveled to Yemen to examine and help restore a cache of ancient Quran manuscripts. They, too, took pictures. When they tried to get them out of Yemen, authorities seized them, says Gerd-Rüdiger Puin, one of the scholars. German diplomats finally persuaded Yemen to release most of the photos, he says.

Mr. Puin says the manuscripts suggested to him that the Quran "didn't just fall from heaven" but "has a history." When he said so publicly a decade ago, it stirred rage. "Please ensure that these scholars are not given further access to the documents," read one letter to the Yemen Times. "Allah, help us against our enemies."

With this huge corpus of text recently obtained from Sana'a and now the Pretzl/Spitaner archive being worked on by Angelika Neuwirth ("former pupil and protégée of the late Mr. Spitaler") It would be interesting to learn what Mohammed Arkoun would have to say regarding their impact on Muslims' view of the Qur'an:

Deviating from the orthodox interpretation of the Koran, says the Algerian Mohammed Arkoun, a professor emeritus of Islamic thought at the University of Paris, is "a very sensitive business" with major implications. "Millions and millions of people refer to the Koran daily to explain their actions and to justify their aspirations," Arkoun says. "This scale of reference is much larger than it has ever been before."

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Arkoun argued in Lectures du Coran (1982), for example, that "it is time [for Islam] to assume, along with all of the great cultural traditions, the modern risks of scientific knowledge," and suggested that "the problem of the divine authenticity of the Koran can serve to reactivate Islamic thought and engage it in the major debates of our age." Arkoun regrets the fact that most Muslims are unaware that a different conception of the Koran exists within their own historical tradition. What a re-examination of Islamic history offers Muslims, Arkoun and others argue, is an opportunity to challenge the Muslim orthodoxy from within, rather than having to rely on "hostile" outside sources. Arkoun, Abu Zaid, and others hope that this challenge might ultimately lead to nothing less than an Islamic renaissance.

What Is the Koran?", The Atlantic Monthly 1999 January



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:19:59 PM EST
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Can we first try to convince the majority of Christians that Jesus probably didn't exist ? That'd have a better hope of succeeding, and is less of a historical lapse - one thing with the Mohammed story is that beyond the Gabriel dictating stuff, the rest of the Koran story is quite believable, and it's not that impossible that  he actually told a pretty close version of the Koran to the one we have.

As for actually convincing Muslims to actually change what is for them one of their core beliefs, it's going to be hard. After all, it is pretty well known that the non vowelled Koran has semantic ambiguities, which have historically been debated ; which doesn't prevent many muslims from thinking the Koran is unchanged.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:07:17 PM EST
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Can we first try to convince the majority of Christians that Jesus probably didn't exist ?

Well, then we would have to convince all those Christians and all those Muslims.

That'd have a better hope of succeeding, and is less of a historical lapse

I doubt it:

Most scholars in the fields of biblical studies and history agree that Jesus was a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, was baptized by John the Baptist, was accused of sedition against the Roman Empire, and on the orders of Roman Governor Pontius Pilate was sentenced to death by crucifixion.[1] However, a very small minority[2][3] argue that Jesus never existed as a historical figure, but was a purely symbolic or mythical figure syncretized from various non-Abrahamic deities and heroes.[4]

Historicity of Jesus (Wikipedia)

Typologie des quêtes

On peut pour simplifier classer les travaux historiques sur Jésus en différentes catégories. <...>

La thèse historico-critique

Le Jésus dépeint dans les Évangiles ressemble d'assez près au Jésus ayant existé au Ier  siècle, mais des détails plus ou moins nombreux ont été imaginés par les évangélistes (naissance virginale, certaines paroles et miracles, etc.). C'est l'attitude très largement prédominante aujourd'hui chez les historiens et les exégètes, qu'ils soient laïcs ou religieux. Elle est préconisée dans l'enseignement laïc des religions

Quêtes du Jésus historique (Wikipedia)

Pour les chercheurs et spécialistes, les thèse mythistes sont rejetées par des arguments tant externes qu'internes au nouveau testament. Un premier point est qu'aucun des premiers adversaires des chrétiens, tant côté romain que côté juif, ne remet en question l'existence de Jésus, et ce malgré des attaques virulentes. En ce qui concerne les évangiles, le fait que leur rédaction finale au tournant du premier et du second siècle s'est faite dans une période où les chrétiens cherchaient à la fois se distinguer des juifs, et à s'intégrer dans le monde romain, rend peu crédible l'invention totale de la crucifixion de Jésus, supplice romain par excellence, et la mention de roi des juifs. Enfin les incohérences et contradictions mêmes des textes, sont en fait en défaveur d'une création fictionelle.

Thèse mythiste (Jésus non historique) (Wikipedia)

I think there is a (slightly) better chance of convincing the majority of Christians that Jesus was not God: it is a matter popularizing portrayals of Jesus as a mere mortal in books, movies, etc., an enterprise that has just barely started and is fraught with difficulty.  But that will take time.  And of course, it amounts to convincing Christians to abandon their faith.  Still, it may be possible, if that is what you want to do, and no doubt easier than popularizing portrayals of Mohammed as someone who was the author of the Qur'an without divine intercession.

As for actually convincing Muslims to actually change what is for them one of their core beliefs, it's going to be hard.

Indeed.  And actually I doubt either Sana'a texts or the Pretzl/Spitaler archive will produce anything that earthshaking.  The fact that the orthodox version of the Qur'an was standardized less than a generation after Mohammed's death suggests that any discrepancies will be clerical rather than ideological.

But you never know: maybe حورية‎ (ḥūr) turns out to mean "white grape" after all.

That Wikipedia article incidentally describes how the work on the Sana'a and Pretzl/Spitaler texts will be valuable:

In 2004 the German Wissenschaftskolleg (Institute for Advanced Study) in Berlin held an academic conference focusing on [Christophe] Luxenberg's thesis [that the content of critical sections of the Qu'ran has been broadly misread by succeeding generations of readers through a faulty and exclusive reliance on the assumption that classical Arabic formed the foundation of the Qu'ran whereas linguistic analysis of the text suggests that the prevalent Syro-Aramic language up to the 7th century formed a stronger etymological basis for its meaning] and an international working group was formed to continue the discussion. Many of the conference discussions were critical of Luxenberg. However, a number of academics have stated that Luxenberg's work is valuable in that it has focused attention on various deficiencies in contemporary Quranic studies.

One is the lack of a critical edition of the Qur'an, referencing the manuscripts that still exist and studying the evolution of the received text as it is known today.

Another is the lack of an etymological dictionary of the Semitic languages that meets the strictest contemporary standards. This would surely contribute to discussions of borrowings from Syriac, Latin and Middle Persian into Arabic.

A 2005 conference at the University of Notre Dame (Towards a New Reading of the Qur'ān?) clearly indicated increasing acceptance of Luxenberg's approach.

The Syro-Aramaic Reading Of The Koran



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Jan 15th, 2008 at 12:37:16 AM EST
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KLATSCH
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:52:29 AM EST
Good work, Fran!
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:00:28 AM EST
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Pfft!, thanks afew. Though, the site still seems to be very slow.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:19:42 AM EST
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Good morning and a good week to you all.

And especially thank you to you Melanchton!

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:26:18 AM EST
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The woman behind France's hyper-publicized romance - International Herald Tribune

Man trap, serial heart-wrecker, rocker arm candy, photogenic cipher, arrogant heiress, polling gimmick - the woman who appears likely to become the first lady of France has been called a lot of things lately. The last thing anyone would have thought of is that she's a catch.

Barely three months after his divorce from his wife, Cécilia, the polarizing but media-savvy French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, has become a principal in a hyper-publicized romance that has even the normally high-minded French press gossiping about the details in goosey tabloid terms. See the lovers moon around the pyramids and Euro Disney! Watch the Saudis grapple with the free-living ways of the French! Can Indian officials invent protocol to accommodate a First Sleepover Pal? Will the French public accept a woman who espouses polyandry, has a son by a philosopher whose father she once also dated, and who has been romantically linked with Eric Clapton and Mick Jagger? Will a whirlwind courtship and marriage ultimately bring Sarkozy's approval ratings up from the dumps?

Because model is so often used as a synonym for moron, few have stopped to consider that, in pure résumé terms, Bruni may be better equipped than many for a gig at Élysée Palace. For starters, she is a stepdaughter of an Italian tire magnate and classical composer, Alberto Bruni Tedeschi, who is married to her mother, Marisa Borini, a concert pianist. She is rich and well educated (in France, where her family moved in the 1970s to escape a wave of kidnappings in Italy) and speaks three languages.

After she aged out of her career as one of the most highly paid models of the 1990s, with campaigns for Dior and Chanel and about 250 magazine covers to her credit, she became a musician, a transition less surprising when one considers her heritage and past relationships. Her first album of breathy emotive music, set mostly to acoustic guitar was released in 2003 and quickly became a success. "Quelqu'un m'a dit" ("Someone Told Me") produced a best-selling single, sold over a million copies in France, another 300,000 outside the country and in 2004 garnered Bruni the French equivalent of a Grammy as the country's best female vocalist.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 02:18:48 AM EST
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I know this is terribly important, front page stuff. Sarko and Carla are married! Last Thursday! Gasp!
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:43:03 AM EST
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OMG! Where are the pictures?
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:50:07 AM EST
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So does that meen they took Blair on their honeymoon?

From Sunday

someone:

Well, seems there is one good use of Sarkozy. Making Blair uncomfortable with smoochy-smooch. Should you be interested, the article have plenty more gossip, and lays out who slept with whom over the past few decades.
France begins to grow weary with the Sarkozy soap opera | World | The Observer
Smooching their way through a five-course lunch yesterday at an exclusive Paris restaurant, President Nicolas Sarkozy and Carla Bruni made it clear that they care nothing for what anyone thinks, including their gooseberry guest of honour, Tony Blair. The former PM was invited to the five-star Hotel Bristol after addressing a rally of Sarkozy's Union for a Popular Movement party. But all eyes were on the 40-year-old Bruni, who every now and again lifted her sunglasses to lean in and nuzzle the presidential cheek. Sarkozy reciprocated with kisses and cuddles, oblivious of any uncomfortable fidgeting from those around them.


Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 12:14:40 PM EST
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by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:51:19 AM EST
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But no pictures! :-) And it looks like he got special treatment if it is true, not having had to publish his intend of marriage.

Guess, then this comes to late:

Marriage advisers caution Sarkozy not to rush | World | Reuters

PARIS (Reuters) - Marriage advisers say French President Nicolas Sarkozy should be careful not to rush into a hasty marriage with Carla Bruni, cautioning the glamorous couple to take their time and beware of too much media spotlight.

Sarkozy, who only divorced his wife Cecilia a few months ago, has dropped hints that he intends to marry the glamorous Italian ex-model Bruni, and L'Est Republicain daily said on Monday the two might have already tied the knot last Thursday.

Psychologists say marrying Bruni would be both a public and private display of success for the 52-year old president.

"I'd say he's got a new lease of life," said Coral Miller, a marriage councillor in London.

"Very often, men at that sort of age want to prove that they can still, how shall I say, hack it and he's also the president. He needs to have a partner ... to help him and to socialise."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 12:04:18 PM EST
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Will this be the next step?

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 12:08:32 PM EST
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Welcome back, RealFran!

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:09:34 AM EST
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Thanks dvx! Well, I think tomorrow will be again autofran. But I also will be back. This morning autofran could not get up because the site was down or overloaded or whatever. It took me over an hour to just great and set up the header, as everytime I hit a button the site went down. :-)

It seems it hasn't been decided yet if autofran will continue. It does however, give me some flexibility in the morning, if autofran sets up the prepared header.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:16:37 AM EST
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Just arrived by train to Hyderabad, capital of Andhra Pradesh. It's damn hot here, so unlike Northern India where on the way here I spent a day in Sikh's holy city Amritsar, the same day when Cherie Blair paid her obeisance there. She presented a check of 50 lakhs rupees for one school (1 lakh is 100000 rupees or 2 and a half thousands dollars) and signed MOU with chief minister Badal where he promised to give to school the same amount.

In train my neighbours were two Marathas with limited knowledge of English and one old gentleman Mr Murty of Krishnamurty's Foundation, by ethnicity Andhra's brahmin but last 15 years he spent in Uttarkashi in meditating retreat. He did not visit his home many years and did not follow all recent developments whether in economy or politics but he was a pleasure as storyteller. Life is the way where we are all walking.

by FarEasterner on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:46:11 AM EST
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I think I speak for both Mig and myself when I say:

Weekend?  What weekend?

A disappointing night.  We couldn't duplicate the findings of EDA and Continuation, and we couldn't get the necessary socioeconomic data from the Census Bureau on New Hampshire towns.

Nonetheless, we found an even wider swing between hand-counted precincts and AccuVote ones, favoring Clinton even more than previously thought when the "eerie coincidence" was discovered.

Here's hoping Kucinich has other sources who've had more luck.

That was fun.  Now if only I could sleep the rest of the week.  And to think I once wanted to manage campaigns for a living....

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 03:12:47 AM EST
Oh, and we managed to crash the ET server in the process. Our story was linked from Digg.com
Submitted:
15 hr 39 min ago, made popular 7 hr 45 min ago
and the resulted spike knocked ET out for a few hours.

Whoops!

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 04:57:17 AM EST
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This raises the ET enterprise model issue again of course.

I think that in some weird "strange attractor" sort of way we have maybe assembled the basis of something that could be quite big.

How to develop that, without destroying it, is the question that we have wrestled with many times, but is once again demonstrably an issue.

New ET infrastructure costs money....but conventional money invested conventionally is corrosive....

So alongside the current "ET Front Page" Debate, maybe we need an "ET Plumbing" one....

"The future is already here -- it's just not very evenly distributed" William Gibson

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:20:24 AM EST
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I was once part of a team on a magazine website that would get Slashdotted every now and then (not dissimilar to being linked on Digg.)

One thing it's important to keep an eye on is if it causes on spike in bandwidth costs. If it does, we may need to think about ways to address that specifically, regardless of thoughts about new infrastructure or new projects.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:42:57 AM EST
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That, or we could stop trying to figure out what the hell happened in New Hampshire.

The story's definitely spreading, though, and the efforts are being made to agree all of these scattered regressions on the methodology.

Apparently the website with the vote-flipping tool on C and O's AccuVote totals used the same data Mig and I used:  http://neggie.net/vote2008/nh_primary.cgi

The woman who runs BBV has also apparently made a contact who tells her that preliminary results seem to show a connection between possible Clinton/Obama flipping and Giuliani/Paul flipping.  I'd read little bits and pieces alluding to something along these lines, but I didn't take them seriously until she mentioned it.

Perhaps unfortunately, Paul, who's swimming in money (unlike Kucinich), has ruled out a recount.  Some Rep -- last-name Howard -- is calling for it, though, having spotted the discrepancy.

Stay tuned?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:50:58 AM EST
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Do you always have to push the burning coal towards your sardine?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:03:27 AM EST
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They hate freedom.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:54:53 AM EST
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Where did it knock ET out? Don't see it in the stats.

I did have a problem getting on somewhere last night.

My congratulations on a great effort to you, Drew, ATinMN, and all the commenters.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 07:23:36 AM EST
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At the spike itself, around 4 in the morning, ECT, ET was mostly down ; I suppose the real number of hits it was getting was probably north of 10000 per hour. Note that we are on the third page of digg and still getting ten times the normal hourly traffic.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 07:53:00 AM EST
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Oh, and as the US wakes up, it seems another, hopefully smaller, spike in traffic is possible. Hoping Booman's server can handle it...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 08:56:10 AM EST
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Umm, I thought we lived in Dublin these days

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 09:18:29 AM EST
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Nah, boomantribune.com was taken down alongside ET this morning...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 09:22:35 AM EST
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Congratulations? This is mostly embarrassing.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:02:10 AM EST
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I'm commenting on the effort, not so much the result. The effort is impressive. I withhold judgement of all kind on the result.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:13:17 AM EST
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I suspect the way sitemeter works is by recording browser requests for its logo down at the bottom right corner of ET's pages.

Therefore, sitemeter's statistics represent the number of web pages successfully served by the ET server. The number of actual hits may be much larger.

If the Apache server error page also contained the sitemeter logo we'd be able to know what the number of failed requests was.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:30:32 PM EST
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Yes, there is a javascript behind the sitemeter logo. One of the last things to load on the site. And no, it is not there on the error page.

See Wikipedia, web analytics.

When Colman has teh server in Ireland up and running (?) we can do logfile analyses. Fun!!

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 06:52:39 PM EST
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Fantastic effort you guys. I hope in the next couple of days when you recover somebody can write a summary post of what was discovered and what, if naything, it all means.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 09:20:25 AM EST
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I'm more hoping it turns out to mean something, period, I suppose.  The whole thing didn't smell right from the beginning to me, and not merely because I kinda hate Hillary and kinda like Obama.  But I'm betting Kucinich goes through with the recount, and that's going to cost his campaign a pretty penny, so I don't want it to be all for naught.

Can't be in any worse shape than I was in 2004!  Christ, I think I was up for days on that one.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 09:43:13 AM EST
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and not merely because I kinda hate Hillary and kinda like Obama.

I like Obama, too, and was starting to get pretty annoyed with Clinton (and her husband as well).  But I still have faith in her.  And Krugman seems to favor her to Obama (though he clearly favors Edwards most of all):

On health care:

Mr. Obama's health plan is weaker than those of his Democratic rivals.

... the debate over mandates has reinforced the uncomfortable sense among some health reformers that Mr. Obama just isn't that serious about achieving universal care -- that he introduced a plan because he had to, but that every time there's a hard choice to be made he comes down on the side of doing less.

"The Mandate Muddle"

On the economy:

On the Democratic side, John Edwards, although never the front-runner, has been driving his party's policy agenda. He's done it again on economic stimulus ...

Last week Hillary Clinton offered a broadly similar but somewhat larger proposal. ... The Edwards and Clinton proposals both contain provisions for bigger stimulus if the economy worsens.

Anyway, on Sunday Mr. Obama came out with a real stimulus plan. As was the case with his health care plan, which fell short of universal coverage, his stimulus proposal is similar to those of the other Democratic candidates, but tilted to the right.

For example, the Obama plan appears to contain none of the alternative energy initiatives that are in both the Edwards and Clinton proposals, and emphasizes across-the-board tax cuts over both aid to the hardest-hit families and help for state and local governments. I know that Mr. Obama's supporters hate to hear this, but he really is less progressive than his rivals on matters of domestic policy.

"Responding to Recession"



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:14:35 AM EST
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Hats off to you, Miguel, and everyone else who took part in that massive effort.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:16:27 AM EST
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Believe me when I say that 99.999% of it is Miguel on our stats work last night.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 10:19:24 AM EST
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Not much of it anyway. Mostly just getting down to brass tacks and sourcing the damn data from the Secretary of State. And now it seems the claim is our list of precincts with Machines is wrong.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:00:31 AM EST
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Actually, the consensus at BBV seems to be that our list is the correct one and theirs is wrong, mainly because ours is taken straight from the SoS.

The statisticians Bev Harris is in contact with are stating that the results actually point more heavily towards fraud now.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:17:13 PM EST
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have any updates? While nothing popped out at me I was hoping a pro was looking at it.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:24:00 PM EST
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I will update my diary soon.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:26:09 PM EST
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Did you find new data to add or something?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:36:56 PM EST
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I'll note with suspicion that this percentage was counted by AccuVote, though. ;)

</lame joke>

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (pedobear@pennstatefootball.com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 01:18:37 PM EST
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Kirsten Anderson: Request For NH Recount Granted - Off The Bus on The Huffington Post

By Wednesday morning, stories were flying all around the Internet--have you looked closely at the results of the primary? There was something strange about the votes, they said, about the difference between municipalities that hand-counted votes and those that used optical scanners. The chatter increased, and by Friday, the New Hampshire Department of State issued a press release announcing that two candidates, Democrat Dennis Kucinich and Republican Albert Howard had requested and been granted a recount, having met the following requirement:

"New Hampshire law, RSA 660:7, provides that "any person for whom a vote was cast for any nomination of any party at a state or presidential primary may apply for a recount." RSA 660:2, IV provides that if the difference between the vote cast for the applying candidate and a candidate declared elected shall be greater than 3 percent of the total votes cast in the towns which comprise the office to be recounted, the candidate shall pay the fees provided in RSA 660:2, III and shall agree in writing with the secretary of state to pay any additional costs of the recount." RSA 660:6 provides that if the person requesting the recount is declared the winner after the recount or loses by a margin of less than one percent of the total votes cast, the fees for the recount will be refunded by the State."

The recounts will begin on January 16, at a time and location to be announced after the state has completed an estimate of the cost and received payment based on that estimate.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jan 14th, 2008 at 11:23:19 AM EST
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