Cross-ideological cooperation, American Style

by redstar
Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 05:18:04 PM EST

A million homeless children in the US. 82 million Americans who lack or have woefully inadequate healthcare insurance. Healthcare spend, at 16% of GDP, is 65% higher than neighboring Canada (universal, government-run).  Hundreds of thousands continue to die in Iraq. We understandably look with a mix of disappointment and disgust upon our ruling elite in Washington, who cannot get modest versions of popular bills enacted on the our behalf.

Looking at the facts on (and in the ground] it's hard to see progress being made for working people. One almost wants to give up and say pox on the entire political elite. But that would be wrong. In fact, it is possible to, like Obama says, bring people from both parties together to get things done. In fact, a lot of progress is being made, locally and at the state level. You just have to look in different sections of the newspaper than you are accustomed to looking.


The sports pages.

Want to see bipartisan cooperation and political elites in all corners of the United States getting things done? Look no further than the continuing boom in sports facility construction.

Impoverished Washington DC may have the nation's highest rate of HIV/AIDS in the country,  the nation's highest child poverty level and a transportation infrastructure so pitiful that it regularly puts the city in the top three for worst city to commute in but this doesn't stop the wise leaders of the nation's capital to ante up 140 million to pay for a new ballpark for the Washington Nationals despite a majority of residents being understandably opposed.

Florida's investment pool, at risk of needing a taxpayer bailout, may be limiting municipal withdrawals to pay for teacher, firefighter and police salaries, but a new Baseball stadium for the Florida Marlins looks like it's got more of a chance of getting attention in Tallahassee than the state investment pool's liquidity crisis. And they're not the only team looking for a state handout - if they get what they're looking for, look for the Tampa Bay baseball team to look for an identical tax kick-back deal.

California may be facing a USD 14 billion budget deficit, but the owners of the baseball team in Oakland are still liking their chances to get state money to build a new stadium, which unlike ongoing state operating expenses like teacher's salaries, can be paid for by issuing bonds, the interest payments on which will simply create even bigger budget deficit issues for CA state and local government hamstrung by, among other less important factors, Proposition 13.

Mayor Bloomberg of New York, reported pondering a billion-dollar self-financed Presidential Bid under the "Unity `08" ticket New York Yankees deal, can claim to have accomplished not one, but two ballpark construction projects. That's some real political movement, folks, bringing taxpayers dollars together to make a few wealthy people wealthier.

And just next door in New Jersey, asstaggering 1.6 billion USD is being spent on a new Football Stadium, not far from the new $300 million New Jersey Devil's arena which at least had the benefit is actually being a multi-purpose civic facility built at the behest of a team practicing an actual sport.

Texas might have problems paying for its school system, repeatedly having to delay the purchase of new school books due to lack of funding, but this hasn't stopped state and local goverments from ponying up hundreds of millions of dollars to build the Cowboys a new stadium.

You may have heard the sound of sucking the last time you were in or around Indianapolis, Indiana. Depending on where you were, this might have been from all of the manufacturing jobs and industrial base being sucked out of the state, or it may simply been the tax dollars being sucked out of your pocket to help pay for a new Football Stadium. Note that the new Stadium replaces an "old" one - 25 years old...  

And the baseball Twins in Minnesota could count on getting similar government handouts despite continuing draconian cuts to childcare and healthcare subsidies for the working poor.

Why is that despite such supposedly severe partisan polarization in the US, such accomplishments can be made in supposedly every part of the country? Is it because of overwhelming popularity on the part of citizens and sports fans on whose behalf these projects are being undertaken?

Not so much. If a study cited by the downright communist National Taxpayer Union (author's note: that's snark for those unaware of who this group is. Their handicapping of the 2008 election in the US will give you a better idea), it is readily apparent that policy-makers embark on such boondoggles despite, not because of, popularity among citizens:

Although a casual observer might believe that the flood of tax dollars poured into new stadiums sprang from some public mandate, appearances are deceiving. When asked, taxpayers generally oppose spending tax dollars to build stadiums. The following graph shows the results of a 1997 Rasmussen Poll in which 64 percent of respondents answered "no" to the question of whether tax dollars should ever be used to build a professional sports facility.

This margin of disapproval would probably be even higher were it not for extreme pressure from public figures, and the media-fueled belief that bad publicity associated with losing a sports franchise will harm their city's image. Even strong initial skepticism can frequently be overcome because well-funded stadium backers are allowed to put stadium-financing legislation before voters multiple times until it passes. In many eastern states that lack initiative and referendum laws, the issue of whether or not to subsidize stadiums with tax dollars needs no approval from voters at all.

No, stadium boondoggles on the taxpayer dime are not done for reasons of popularity. So, if not popularity, why?

Ah, dear reader, we may all have different ways to fill in the blanks on this question. But the framing of the response comes down to one thing. It may take overwhelmingly popularity to get something done for average citizens like you and I, substantial things like feeding and housing the disadvantaged, reforming a broken, arbitrary and elitist healthcare delivery system, or ending the war in Iraq. But if it involves further lining the pockets of the already insanely wealthy, like owners of professional sports
franchises, you can bet your representative, Republican or Democratic, is on it, working together to get things done.

The very model of bipartisanship that the Villagers applaud.

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Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden
by redstar on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 05:19:26 PM EST
Misery loves company so I'd thought you might enjoy this picture:

Our sports complex - the scrodome next to the worlds tallest phallic symbol.

We are for Justice and Mercy, and Truth and Peace, and true Freedom. Edward Burroughs 1659

by edwin on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 05:40:03 PM EST
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The tower serves a purpose. I can see it from Buffalo on a clear day allowing me to keep an eye on the movements of Canadians dying to cross territorial waters to the land of the free and home of the brave.
by Upstate NY on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 04:03:27 PM EST
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ROFLMAO!

We are for Justice and Mercy, and Truth and Peace, and true Freedom. Edward Burroughs 1659
by edwin on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 05:49:25 PM EST
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We better not talk hockey.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden
by redstar on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 05:42:35 PM EST
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The last time I watched a hockey game was 25 years ago at least.

I think you're safe... ;)

We are for Justice and Mercy, and Truth and Peace, and true Freedom. Edward Burroughs 1659

by edwin on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 05:57:36 PM EST
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You don't have a team to watch!

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden
by redstar on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 06:03:12 PM EST
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Now I'm really confused. And I thought things would get better when I tossed my tv out the window.

We are for Justice and Mercy, and Truth and Peace, and true Freedom. Edward Burroughs 1659
by edwin on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 06:11:13 PM EST
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Well, you don't really have a team to cheer for, cuz the Leafs suck and have sucked for a very long time. So not surprising you haven't watched a game in 25 years.

Last cup? 40 years ago.

Sorry to confuse you. I'd be bewildered too if I were a hockey fan in Toronto.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

by redstar on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 06:14:10 PM EST
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That may be - but you know what we said when we won the world cup in baseball:

Our Americans are better than your Americans.

So take that!

We are for Justice and Mercy, and Truth and Peace, and true Freedom. Edward Burroughs 1659

by edwin on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 07:21:24 PM EST
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What about Minnesota? Was the money that should have been spent on the I35 bridge used on some sports infrastructure?

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 05:47:43 PM EST
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Three such structures. A new baseball stadium, a new university stadium, primarily football use (but also for the other football), and about ten years back a hockey stadium.

There are also calls for another professional football stadium (on top of the university one already built), which will likely also happen if history is any judge.

On the other hand, there are about a half-dozen high-traffic bridges (two of which I ride under with my bike, like the 35W bridge) with worse structural sufficiency ratings than the one that went down.

It's gratifying to me to see politicians in the US and in my home state able to come together and get something done for the wealthy sons of bitches on behalf of whom virtually everything in this country gets done.

I mentioned the baseball one in the diary.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

by redstar on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 05:52:29 PM EST
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Sorry, I missed the short paragraph about the Twins.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 05:56:57 PM EST
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The bridge collapse likely means Zigi doesn't get public money for his football stadium. But then, sometimes, even I am not cynical enough.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 10:54:52 PM EST
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Even worse.

The politicos and owners of the Twins crossed that bridge on the way to the new publicly-financed stadium groundbreaking about 30 minutes before the bridge collapsed.

by Upstate NY on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 04:01:14 PM EST
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Probably not the best night to put it up over there, They appear distracted, I can't think by what. ;-)

As we journey through life, we should keep an iron grip, to the very end, on the capacity for silliness. It preserves the soul from dessication.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 06:46:27 PM EST
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You don't get it, this is good old-fashioned Keynesian stimulus!

European Tribune: Keen on Keynes by Migeru on July 23rd, 2006

Ancient Egypt was doubly fortunate, and doubtless owed to this its fabled wealth, in that it possessed two activities, namely pyramid-building as well as the search for the precious metals, the fruits of which, since they could not serve the needs of man by being consumed, did not stale with abundance. The Middle Ages built cathedrals and sang dirges. Two pyramids, two masses for the dead, are twice as good as one; but not so two railways from London to York. Thus we are so sensible, have schooled ourselves to so close a semblant of prudent financiers, taking careful thought before we add to the 'financial' burdens of posterity by building them houses to live in, that we have no such easy escape from the sufferings of unemployment. We have to accept them as inevitable results of applying to the conduct of the State the maxims which are best calculated to 'enrich' an individual by enabling him to pile up claims to enjoyment which he does not intend to exercise at any definite time. & mdash; John Maynard Keynes: "The Marginal Propensity to Consume", in The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money (1936)
You see? Two stadium are twice as good as one, but roads, bridges, hospitals... You already have enough!

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 06:07:05 PM EST
Awesome diary.  That DC stadium deal just... enraged me.
by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 at 06:35:44 PM EST
well, feeding xtians to the lions has been outlawed, so something had to take its place.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 04:26:45 AM EST
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English counterpoint (on a very much lower level than the American examples).

The town of Slough has (or had) a football team called Slough Town. A non-league soccer team is not exactly big business, but it tends to attract a few hundred regular fans and I suppose a lot of potential weaker supporters if something exciting happens, like an FA Cup match against a larger rival.

The man who owned the club and its ground wanted to re-develop the ground for housing and have the local Council pay for a new soccer stadium. Our coalition administration (of everybody on the Council except Labour) took a courageous decision to turn down the proposition.

Our octogenerian Council leader (who apparently had something to do with a professional football club in his youth) earned the undying hostility of the keen Slough Town fans, who now have to attend home games at a ground in the neighbouring town of Windsor (the place with the big castle). The Labour opposition were happy to conduct an opportunistic campaign to back the developer (as being in opposition they did not need to find the money to build the new ground).

I think the right decision was reached, in the public interest, but it was not politically free. The part of the population which cared, cared passionately. The majority, who did not care, probably would not have reacted positively whichever decision was reached.

by Gary J on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 12:33:20 AM EST
Don't get me started on the Millennium Dome, Wembley Stadium or the F@ck$%^g Olympics. We could be here all day and little of it will be more than sulphurous ranting.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 11:48:26 AM EST
It warmed the cockles of me heart, it did.


So, here I am in Ravenna. Where exactly was the Rubicon, again?
by BruceMcF (agila61 at netscape dot net) on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 03:24:00 PM EST
This is going to sound weird but people in the town I live in, Buffalo, will swear that there was a mini-business boom in the mid 1990s when Buffalo went to 4 straight Super Bowls (and lost). It put the city on the map internationally. This is commonly accepted in town.

Sports franchise owners have most effectively wrangled $$$ from the taxpayers in cities where they can threaten to move the franchise. Small cities such as Buffalo and Minneapolis have been most at risk. Big cities such as New York, Boston, Dallas, Chicago, haven't contributed a dime to the building of new stadiums because they know their owners have nowhere to turn (actually, the Boston franchise's owner tried to take the team to Hartford, Ct, where they were giving him big money, only to turn around at the last second, stay in Mass., and pay for the stadium on his own dime).

Best of all, in Los Angeles, the taxpayers just don't care about football at all. They don't even have a team.

by Upstate NY on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 03:59:09 PM EST
It put the city on the map internationally.
No, I don't think so. Nationally, maybe. No one outside the US gives a damn about the superbowl. Most don't know what the superbowl is.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 04:18:01 PM EST
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Maybe he means Niagara. They have an OHL team, the Ice Dogs. That's gotta count for something.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden
by redstar on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 04:21:51 PM EST
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I meant what I wrote: internationally.

A good number of Americans have already heard of Buffalo whether or not they are in the Super Bowl.

In the 90s, it caused a bump in international business.

And, the Super Bowl is televised internationally. Not so much in Europe. But I have watched it live in Japan and Argentina. The numbers of watchers are not insignificant either. In China, one of the top TV stations broadcasts it live. Mexico is the main media outlet internationally together with the UK (as we witnessed the game at Wembley this year was a sellout).

Here's a bit more from an article on the SB broadcast internationally: "We have credentialed about 350 international media this week, which is more than the total number of media who covered the first-ever Super Bowl," he said. "The game is going to go out in 234 different countries. We have about 15 or 16 international TV crews actually on-site at the stadium announcing the game play-by-play."

So, I assume that some countries will just feed into the American broadcast in English, but 16 countries take it seriously enough to have their own crews provide play-by-play in their own language.

by Upstate NY on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 05:12:30 PM EST
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The game played on Mars or something?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 09:26:49 AM EST
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perhaps they have advanced notice of all the counties that are going to be broken up into new sub-entities in the middle east and europe in the next few rounds of the war on terror. Perhaps the TV rights have already been sold to the merdoch companies for these new markets? ;-)

As we journey through life, we should keep an iron grip, to the very end, on the capacity for silliness. It preserves the soul from dessication.
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 09:36:01 AM EST
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They're TV network execs, not diplomats.

They count countries according to the radius of their strongest over the air antenna!!

by Upstate NY on Sat Jan 5th, 2008 at 11:44:17 AM EST
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When people start paying attention to Public Business this will stop.  


Have epistemological model of Complex Information environments. Will Travel.
by ATinNM on Fri Jan 4th, 2008 at 04:55:43 PM EST


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