European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 24. November

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1864 - Birth of Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, a French painter, printmaker, draftsman, and illustrator, whose immersion in the decadent and theatrical life of fin de siècle Paris yielded an oeuvre of provocative images of modern life.(d. 1901)

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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:52:55 PM EST
German Lawmakers Re-Open Berlin-Bonn Debate | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 22.11.2008
The continued division of Germany's government between Berlin and Bonn has long been a contentious issue. But now lawmakers seem to have started a process that could lead to a complete move of government to Berlin.

The parliament's budget committee this week called for a review of the current situation, which essentially splits government between Berlin and the former West German capital, Bonn.

 

Committee members have also asked the government to submit an annual report on the costs of keeping to seats of government. The report will also have to include information on whether the Berlin-Bonn divide prevents more effective government.

 

"The slope from Bonn to Berlin has become even more slippery," Petra Merkel, a Social Democratic member of the committee from Berlin, told Berliner Zeitung.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:55:26 PM EST
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Brown and Darling slash VAT in £18bn tax gamble - UK Politics, UK - The Independent
First cut in the tax for 34 years leads Government's measures to stimulate spending. At a cost of £13bn, says Treasury, it could save the high street

VAT will be reduced from 17.5 per cent as early as this week as Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling gamble £18bn on a Christmas tax-cutting plan to rescue Britain from recession.

In a pre-Budget report (PBR) tomorrow loaded with huge political significance for the Prime Minister and the Chancellor, VAT will be cut - for the first time in 34 years - within days, in time for the first big Christmas shopping weekend.

The cut will be at least 2 per cent, possibly to 15 per cent, where it will remain for a "holiday" of one-and-a-half to two years, bringing some relief for millions of families as the economic downturn worsens.

This would take £10 off the average Christmas present bill of £384 and bring welcome respite to the beleaguered high street, where stores have been forced to bring forward the season's sales to get people spending.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:55:44 PM EST
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Brown attacks Tory 'lack of compassion' for opposing tax cuts - Times Online

Gordon Brown today condemned the Conservatives as uncaring and irresponsible for opposing his £16 billion package to save jobs and homes.

Chancellor Alistair Darling will deliver the Government's pre-budget financial statement in the Commons tomorrow, including a massive fiscal stimulus package intended to re-energise the economy.

A temporary 2.5 per cent cut in the rate of VAT to 15 per cent, which will cost the taxpayer around £10bn, will form the centrepiece of the plans, it is understood. Further tax cuts targeted at families and the least-well-off are also expected

Mr Brown's plan to borrow more heavily to pay for the stimulus package was heavily criticised by David Cameron today, as the Conservatives resurrected one of their most successful advertising campaigns of the past, to warn voters they face a "tax bombshell" to finance the debt.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:02:21 PM EST
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(makes dubious noises)

Stores are offering discounts of 20% plus already.

If that doesn't tempt people in, how will another 2% make a difference?

And it won't help the really hard-pressed that much because food (with exceptions) isn't subject to VAT anyway.

If the govt wants to support the high street, might the money not have been better targeted if they'd decided to hand it to retailers as some form of business rates rebate?

But I guess that wouldn't have allowed for political posturing over which party cares more about "hard-working families".  

by Sassafras on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 05:52:50 PM EST
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I can't say that a decrease in VAT, which is a horrible regressive tax, upsets me much.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 05:56:46 PM EST
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Replacing it with debt for a very uncertain benefit upsets me...  :/
by Sassafras on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 06:07:06 PM EST
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Aren't they talking about increasing the highest tax rate from 40% to 45%? In which case, it would be a rather good "reform."

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:55:39 AM EST
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Darling to raise taxes for wealthy

Alistair Darling, chancellor, is to target the wealthy with a new top rate of tax to help pay down soaring government borrowing, as he prepares to unveil a £12.5bn VAT cut to encourage Britain to shop its way out of recession.

Mr Darling will announce plans for a new 45p top tax rate to be set at about £150,000 a year, to be introduced after the next election. He accepts that a tight squeeze on public spending alone will not plug the hole in the government's finances.

Although the new tax would only raise several billion pounds a year, it breaches a central "new Labour" tenet of not putting up income tax or penalising the wealthy. It also opens up potentially sharp dividing lines between Labour and the Tories at the next general election. David Cameron, Tory leader, now faces a difficult choice of whether or not to support the mooted tax rise.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 07:12:05 AM EST
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One of the commenters on the Andrew Marr politics show made a sarcastic comment about "it might save as much as £10 on your Christmas shopping bill, wow, let's rush out and spend spend spend".

Politicians live in another world really.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 06:40:08 AM EST
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but note that VAT also applies to other kinds of shopping and spending than the Christmas list, so its impact will be larger.

At a time of weaker demand, it is likely to be fully passed on to consumers, so it is a boost to wage earners in the from of price reductions.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 07:13:54 AM EST
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the problems are that it is fuel bills, train fares and large local tax rises that are the things people worry about. Of the order of hundreds of pounds a year. A few extra pennies in the pocket aren't going to make any difference, especially to people on lower incomes.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 07:51:01 AM EST
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Police to get 10,000 Taser guns - Times Online

Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, is to arm police with 10,000 Taser stun guns in an escalation of the government's fight against violent crime.

Smith will unveil plans tomorrow that will enable all 30,000 front-line response officers to be trained in firing the electric guns at knife-wielding thugs and other violent suspects.

Smith said yesterday that £8m will be made available to all 43 police forces in England and Wales to buy the new 50,000-volt weapons.

She said their use will be extended from small units of dedicated firearms officers to up to 30,000 police response officers across the country.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:56:20 PM EST
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Socialists fear civil war after Royal defeat - Times Online

Civil war loomed among France's feuding Socialists after a party leadership ballot ended yesterday in a virtual dead heat between the two female contenders amid accusations of cheating and calls for a rerun.

Martine Aubry, the 58-year-old mayor of Lille, declared victory by a margin of only 42 votes that was immediately contested by Ségolène Royal, her bitter rival, who demanded another ballot.

The official results gave Aubry, a former minister, 50.02% of the 134,784 votes cast by party members, compared with 49.98% for the 55-year-old Royal, the party's presidential candidate last year.

Royal's supporters complained of "irregularities", vowing to challenge the result. "We contest these results," said Julien Dray, an MP and Royal backer. "There are things that don't add up. The only possible solution is another vote."

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:56:46 PM EST
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The Times does not exagerate the situation. The two sides are digging in and the end-result will leave a lot of bitterness, whichever it is.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:12:30 PM EST
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I thought it's a bit unfair to Times journalists to attach the "Murdoch alert" to everything they write, especially to a fairly straight-forward bit of reporting like this. As you said - I think ? - to ValentinD dismissing something because it was in Canard Enchainé, one should criticise the argument not just the fact of the source.  

Anyway, sad situation.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 05:51:36 PM EST
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There's very little "straightforward recporting" in the Times (or any other Murdoch paper) about France.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 06:04:59 PM EST
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Then condemn the bad bits for their bad arguments, not blanket condemnation because of the source. CF; your argument re C.E.  As you said, this report does not exaggerate.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:43:41 AM EST
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The warning serves, indeed, as a warning to exert one's critical sense when reading what comes out of Murdoch's press ; not blanket condemnation.

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:46:35 AM EST
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It's rather a patronising assumption that we need to be told to "exert one's critical sense when reading" ? Don't you normally do that when reading ?

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 09:39:54 AM EST
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Patronising on the part of whom? As dvx said, this usage was established a while ago after discussion and (before you) had consensus support.

Secondly, it's not telling people to exercise critical thought. It's reminding them (and they are not all retired British teachers who know this perfectly well) that the once-prestigious Times is no longer a newspaper of record but part of the Murdoch empire.

Hey, and it also makes some people smile! :-)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 09:51:48 AM EST
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The fact that I'm not in agreement with the consensus doesn't worry me - should we have a "consensus approved alert" too ? :-)

I still think it encourages prejudice rather than critical thinking.

"What is needed is not the courage of one's convictions, but the courage for an attack on one's convictions."  Nietzsche

So more useful might "One of our pals - be especially critical - alert"  :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 01:48:42 PM EST
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The Murdoch Alert is attached to the Murdoch press. The only stigma individual journalists incur is one they don't appear too worried about, namely, that they're willing to work for an empire that has, efficiently and tenaciously, done a great deal since the mid-twentieth century to displace the centre of public discourse towards the right.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 02:46:30 AM EST
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I'd still rather judge each piece quoted here on its merits - not be encouraged to dismiss it because it's by "evildoers" :-) As I've said before, Chomsky, for all his criticism of mainstream media, acknowledges that within the beast some good reporters manage to get worthwhile stories through from time to time, even in the WSJ. He gives them credit for doing so and cites useful stuff from them, without giving one a warning each time.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:52:00 AM EST
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I'd still rather judge each piece quoted here on its merits

I can't imagine you're being prevented from doing that.


When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 05:09:45 AM EST
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Read on a few words - not "prevented" but "encouraged to dismiss it." How about a more general - "Capitalist media alert" ?  Or "Source we don't approve alert" :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 09:35:34 AM EST
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IIRC, the decision to tag the Times with the Murdoch Alert was the product of a very broad discussion here.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:53:24 AM EST
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This will greatly benefit Besancenot
by paving on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 03:30:55 PM EST
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Sarkozy, who, ValentinB notwithstanding, has done all he could to help the NPA (Nouveau Parti Anticapitaliste) get started, because he ses it as an easier adversary to beat in 2012.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 06:04:01 PM EST
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Sarkozy is welcome to do so.  It may well backfire on him.  Besancenot is no Le Pen.
by paving on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 09:18:27 PM EST
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Besancenot isn't one quarter as politically astute as Le Pen.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 02:49:28 AM EST
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Le Pen had decades to learn, but he is inherently repellant.  Not so with the red mailman.  Or did I miss an era where Le Pen was polling approvingly with a large percentage of the population?
by paving on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:39:19 AM EST
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I'm not sure B. has that much of a chance; I read that Sarko sees him and his party more as a helpful means of splitting the Left vote.


Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:54:19 AM EST
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Icelanders rally in the streets calling for PM's resignation | WORLD | NEWS | tvnz.co.nz

Thousands of Icelanders demonstrated in Reykjavik on Saturday demanding the resignation of Prime Minister Geir Haarde and Central Bank Governor David Oddsson for failing to stop a financial meltdown in the country.

It was the latest in a series of protests in the capital since the financial meltdown that crippled the island's economy.

Hordur Torfason, a well-known troubadour in Iceland and the main organiser of the protests, said the protests would continue until the government stepped down.

"They don't have our trust and they are no longer legitimate," Torfason said as the crowds gathered in the drizzle before the Althing, the Icelandic parliament.

A separate group of 200-300 people gathered in front of the city's main police station demanding the release of a young protester being held there, Icelandic media reported.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:57:49 PM EST
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German Expert: Kosovo Arrests Point to Internal Power Struggle | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 23.11.2008
A judge in Kosovo has ordered a 30-day detention for three suspected German intelligence agents arrested in connection with a bomb attack on a local EU office. A German expert government intrigues might be to blame.

Lawyers of the men said prosecutors were trying to link their clients to "acts of terrorism," punishable with up to 20 years in prison.

 

"Three German citizens, suspected for the explosion... have to stay one month in detention" the Daily Express reported Sunday, Nov. 23, according to the AFP news agency.

 

The Kosovar paper added that the Germans were "suspected of conducting a criminal act of terrorism."

 

Attorney Adem Ademi told the German dpa news agency in Pristina that "some documents" identifying the suspects as agents of Germany's Federal Intelligence Agency (BND) "were found and presented as evidence," but he expressed doubts about the documents' authenticity.

 

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:58:55 PM EST
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Bavaria Wants More Flexibility in European Car Pollution Rules | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 23.11.2008
European automakers shouldn't count on special treatment from the EU, Industry Commissioner Verheugen said. But one German state has demanded climate protection rules be watered down to protect carmakers -- and jobs.

The European Union's planned support package for the 27-member bloc's industrial sector would not provide automakers with special subsidies, Guenther Verheugen, the bloc's industry commissioner, said in an interview on Sunday, Nov. 23.

 

"We have a single industrial policy in Europe and it has clearly left behind the use of subsidies," he told German broadcaster NDR. "And there won't be a reoccurrence of the subsidy mentality of the 80s."

 

Verheugen added that the only industry rescue package considered by the EU was one involving the expansion of credit lines provided by the European Investment Bank. Such new loans would help carmakers adopt climate-friendly technology and produce cleaner cars.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:59:32 PM EST
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Anyway, I thought German automakers were ahead of the curve in terms of designing vehicles with lower CO2 exhaust levels?

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 06:18:05 PM EST
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I'd heard the opposite.  The Germans are big on turbo diesel technology, which is very fuel efficient but has serious problems with emissions.
by Zwackus on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 09:10:13 PM EST
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They've been very good at reducing emissions level, but as they start from much higher, their numbers are still weak in absolute terms. A 1-ton car with a 4-cylinder 1.4l engine has inherently lower emissions than a 2-ton car with a 6-cylinder 3.5l engine.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:57:58 AM EST
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I think reality will probably overtake them. They're a bit like GM arguing for the right to build SUVs to protect jobs. It works for a while but sooner or later refusal to bend to changing circumstances is gonna hurt you.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 06:58:07 AM EST
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EU To Give One Billion Euros to World's Poorest Farmers | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 22.11.2008
The EU will give 1 billion euros to poor farmers in non-member countries over the next three years. While member states agreed on the matter in principle, there was some disagreement on where to get the money.

EU budget ministers, meeting in Brussels, reached the deal late Friday, Nov. 21, according to diplomats cited by German news agency DPA. The money will be released in three phases up to 2010 with an installment of 270 million euros ($337.4 million) due this year.

 

"There's agreement -- and Germany supports this -- to make available this money for food production in the poorest countries," said German Deputy Finance Minister Joerg Asmussen.

 

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:00:09 PM EST
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A poll has shed light on which candidate the public believe the rightwing Swiss People's Party should choose as a new cabinet representative this week. - swissinfo
A poll has shed light on which candidate the public believes should be nominated this week as the new cabinet representative of the rightwing Swiss People's Party.

The party will pick a successor to outgoing Defence Minister Samuel Schmid on November 27 from among nominations made by party sections. Cabinet elections follow on December 10.

According to a joint poll published Sunday by the Matin Dimanche and SonntagsBlick newspapers, Zurich parliamentarian Rita Fuhrer was the overall preferred candidate, backed by 15.9 per cent of respondents.

She was marginally - 1.4 per cent - ahead of party figurehead Christoph Blocher, who is also in the running.

The poll found that more than two-thirds of 1,055 respondents did not want the former justice minister to be re-elected to cabinet.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:04:34 PM EST
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Latest survey results in run-up to nationwide vote on November 30. - swissinfo
Drug laws, pensions and planning permission are on the agenda for Swiss voters in the next exercise of direct democracy on November 30.

A poll conducted by the gfs.berne polling and research institute on behalf of the Swiss Broadcasting Corporation, swissinfo's parent company, and published on Wednesday shows that voters may well play safe.

Proposals to change the existing state of affairs as well as moves to introduce new laws both seem doomed to fail when they come to a nationwide vote.

Voters appear set to approve the new narcotics law passed by parliament earlier this year, which includes legalised prescription of heroin for severely dependent addicts. The law enjoys the support of 63 per cent of those questioned, the same proportion as in a previous poll in October.

The rightwing People's Party called a referendum to overturn parliament's decision, but only 21 per cent of respondents said they would follow its appeal. All the other major parties support the new law.

While a sizeable majority is in favour of legalising heroin prescriptions, a vote on a proposal to decriminalise cannabis looks as if it will be much tighter

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:04:58 PM EST
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Russian who shot down John McCain should be given a medal, say Communists - Telegraph
Communists in St Petersburg have called on the region's governor to award a medal to a Russian who claims he shot down Senator John McCain's military jet in Vietnam

They have hailed as a hero Yury Trushyochkin, 70, a former Soviet officer who claimed last week to have fired the missile which brought down Mr McCain's plane as it flew over a bridge near Hanoi in 1967.

Mr Trushyochkin served in a mixed Soviet-North Vietnamese missile unit during the Vietnam war, which was guarding the bridge near a power plant under attack from a 20-strong strike force whose pilots included Mr McCain. The Soviet-made missile blew off a part of one wing of Mr McCain's plane and he ejected upside down moments before it crashed - suffering injuries which have plagued him ever since.

"This sincere Cold War hero is now living in St Petersburg and thinks he simply did his duty," the St Petersburg Communist group declared. "But in reality he defended the USSR and Russia, helping to guard socialism in Vietnam and teach a lesson to the future Number One enemy of Russia."

In an interview last week Mr Trushyochkin told a tabloid newspaper that he had been responsible for firing the missile, and had glimpsed Mr McCain soon after he was pulled from the lake in which he landed. "His hands were covered in blood and he was in a state of shock," he said.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:05:25 PM EST
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Which is - keep on wanting to attack Russia? How is that a good thing for Russia, if I may ask?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:16:52 PM EST
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You missed out the word "future" - the lesson was given back then and it was you can't attack even a little country like Vietnam with impunity. A lesson which, had the US really learnt it, would have avoided the invasion of Iraq.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 05:57:56 PM EST
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Or maybe the lesson was: don't attack a small country protected by Russia?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:58:39 AM EST
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Methinks the lesson is, getting in the army is dangerous to one's health...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 05:08:32 AM EST
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getting in the army is dangerous to one's health

Nowadays, it's much more dangerous to others' health...

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char

by Melanchthon on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 05:11:54 AM EST
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Wow, I guess Cathy Young wasn't exaggerating too much by titling her op-ed, "From Russia With Loathing".

Here's to hoping that Obama takes her advice and goes over to Moscow ASAP (maybe on the same trip as to Pakistan and Iran) to do some trust- and image-rebuilding.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 06:27:48 PM EST
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Barroso sees improved competitiveness

Co-ordinated national stimulus programmes and accelerated spending of regional aid funds are the central elements of a European Union economic recovery plan to be unveiled on Wednesday by EU policymakers.

José Manuel Barroso, European Commission president, will set out the case that the EU can kill two birds with one stone by adopting expansionary fiscal policies that not only pull Europe out of its recession but also improve its long-term competitiveness.

"Spending to beat the recession must be smart spending," Mr Barroso told a conference in Lisbon on Friday. "We must invest in those areas that are critical to our future competitiveness - essential infrastructures, research and innovation, clean technologies to support the transition to the low-carbon economy, energy efficiency, and education and training."

According to some German officials, the Commission will propose that EU governments approve a fiscal stimulus package worth about €130bn ($164bn, £110bn), or 1 per cent of the 27-nation bloc's gross domestic product.

Obama's speech was on the same lines. It's good in both cases.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 03:08:55 PM EST
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Austrian Parties Agree on Grand Coalition | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 23.11.2008
Austria will continue to be governed by a grand coalition of its two major parties after those groups agreed to share power at a meeting Sunday.

That means Werner Faymann, 48, of the SPOe Social Democrats will take over as Austria's chancellor. His party will rule together with the OeVP conservative Austrian People's Party.

  

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift:  Werner Faymann is expected to become chancellor

Austrians went to the polls Sept. 28. But with no clear winner in that election, the parties have been negotiating about power sharing the whole time.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 04:58:10 PM EST
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SPECIAL FOCUS - Finances
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:53:47 PM EST
Poland euro may be delayed if crisis persists-paper - International Herald Tribune

WARSAW: Poland may delay its euro adoption planned for 2012 if the financial turmoil continues beyond spring 2009, Finance Minister Jacek Rostowski was quoted as saying on Saturday.

"We can join the ERM-2 corridor in the spring of next year at the earliest. I hope the current turbulences on the currency markets will be over by then," Rostowski told Polska daily in an interview.

Asked what would happen if the crisis goes on after this date -- when Poland is set to enter the ERM-2 according to the government's euro roadmap -- Rostowski said: "Then we will delay our accession. Our goal remains 2012 for adoption of the euro but this is not ideology."

In order to adopt the common currency the Polish government must also change the constitution, which requires the support of the main opposition, the euro-sceptic Law and Justice.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:57:22 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Programmes | From Our Own Correspondent | UBS loses favour with angry Swiss

It has been a hard year for the biggest Swiss bank, UBS. After losing millions in the US sub-prime mortgage market, it has had to beg the Swiss government for help. As Imogen Foulkes reports, its reputation in Switzerland may never recover.

Swiss shareholders are angry that the value of their shares has plummeted

In Zurich, UBS head office sits astride Paradeplatz - Parade Square to you and me.

But in recent months, the Swiss have renamed it Piratenplatz - or Pirate Square - to signify what they believe is the daylight robbery that has taken place over the last 12 months. Not of their biggest bank, but by it.

When the news began to trickle out that UBS was in big trouble because of its exposure to sub-prime mortgages, there was first surprise, then concern, and then finally, as the multi-billion pound extent of the losses became clear, fury.

I remember going to an emergency shareholders meeting earlier this year.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:58:37 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Mandelson bank behaviour 'alarm'

Lord Mandelson says he is concerned about the "alarming" treatment of small businesses by some bank managers.

The business secretary welcomed Royal Bank of Scotland's announcement that it would freeze overdraft charges for small firms until the end of next year.

But he said there was concern some banks were summarily changing the terms of loans to small firms.

And he said he was drawing up a code of conduct and a monitoring panel to regulate their behaviour.

The business secretary told BBC One's Andrew Marr show he hoped other banks would follow RBS's example but he said he was hearing worrying reports about the actions of some local bank managers.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:06:28 PM EST
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Investors rush to quit buy-out funds

Investors in buy-out funds are so concerned private equity returns will slump in the years ahead that they are selling their commitments for as little as 30 per cent of their original value.

Eighteen months ago, if such stakes were available at all, they generally traded at a premium.

The collapse in valuations reflects growing concerns that many private equity-owned companies will implode as the economic contraction intensifies. Some of the largest deals, struck at the height of the private equity boom that ended in the spring of 2007, now look to be disastrous for the equity holders.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 03:11:33 PM EST
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Why Beijing Is In A Risky Place | Print Article | Newsweek.com

Workers are losing factory jobs at the fastest rate in decades. Automakers--having failed to anticipate today's sales slump--are lobbying politicians for bailouts. The stock market is a crash heap, home prices are down by 35 percent or more in many cities and toxic assets have begun to weigh heavily on banks. America in 2008? Try China, where the global economic downturn now looks certain to end the country's 30-year growth boom, posing the greatest leadership challenge to Beijing since pro-democracy demonstrations threatened one-party communist rule back in 1989.

That's not the conventional take on China--yet. But with most industrialized countries now in recession and countries the world over hoping against hope that the planet's most buoyant major economy might somehow dampen the global downturn, it's a forecast that increasingly rings true.

This article answers a question I asked in a comment yesterday:

As for the second paragraph, as Pettis must surely know already, China is following the Keynesian prescription exactly.  I don't quite understand why Pettis does not acknowledge that China is already doing what he recommends it should do, or at least the first half of his recommendation:

China needs to resolve this problem by expanding fiscally, not by stimulating exports.

in the following paragraph:

Why Beijing Is In A Risky Place | Print Article | Newsweek.com

The doubts about China's stimulus plan arise in part because it's all broad strokes with no fine print. Conceptually, however, it seems intended to split the difference between promoting consumption at home, and export sales. It includes commitments to fund rural infrastructure, boost social spending on health and education, and mount an "economic housing" scheme for migrant workers in major cities--all of which, if implemented, would raise household spending over time. But it also contains perks for heavy industry, value-added tax cuts for the export sector and lending provisions that will channel bank funding to state enterprises engaged in road and rail construction and away from private companies.


Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 06:59:48 PM EST
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Bosses across China skip town leaving huge unpaid wage bills | China Labour Bulletin:

It is not just in China's export orientated manufacturing hub, the Pearl River Delta, that company bosses are leaving workers with unpaid wages. The global economic crisis is affecting all of China's eastern provinces, and more and more bosses are responding by cutting and running.

In the city of Jiaxing, midway between Shanghai and Hangzhou, the local authorities exposed 45 companies whose representatives had fled this year leaving 3,744 workers with wage arrears of more than 11 million yuan. And in Zhejiang province as a whole, Xinhua reported on 17 November that in the first nine months of this year, 277 bosses fled leaving nearly 50 million yuan in unpaid wages, 6.5 million of which remains un-recovered.

On 21 October, the Shenzhen Labour Bureau exposed 30 companies whose bosses had skipped town leaving a wage bill of 12 million yuan. One Taiwanese boss left his 400 factory workers in Longgang district with over two million yuan in wage arrears.

See also this earlier New York Times article:  Workers leave, bosses flee Pearl River Delta

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 07:05:57 PM EST
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Responding to the global economic crisis: Government and unions put job protection first | China Labour Bulletin

China has pushed through a series of emergency measures to protect jobs and stabilize the economy in the wake of the factory closures and mass layoffs that have swept the country over the last few months. Beijing's top labour official, Yin Weimin, told a press conference on 20 November that the employment situation was grim and could get worse before the central government's four trillion yuan economic stimulation package kicks in next year.

"The global economic crisis is picking up speed and spreading from developed to developing countries and the effects are becoming more and more pronounced here. Our economy is facing a serious challenge," Mr Yin, the minister of Human Resources and Social Security said.

Mr Yin's comments came after the ministry conducted a survey of the employment situation in Guangdong, Shanghai, Chongqing, Sichuan, Hunan and Zhejiang, assessing in particular the flow of migrant workers. On 17 November, the ministry issued a notice urging local governments to postpone raising the minimum wage, allow some service orientated companies to adopt flexible working hours and pay, and consider lowering social security premiums. Local governments should also ensure that at least 50 percent of those unemployed migrants who had been employed locally for more than six months are registered as unemployed. Previously, only workers with urban residency could register as unemployed. However, social security and subsistence payments in many regions are already much lower than the minimum wage and can not sustain unemployed workers, particularly those with families, for very long.

The ministry also urged local governments to introduce measures to reduce wage arrears and regulate staff layoffs. The labour department in Guangdong has already strengthened its supervision of enterprises with economic difficulties, those initiating closure, and those with wage arrears of over one month. Particular emphasis has been placed on foreign owned processing industries and labour intensive factories. Moreover, the province will set aside 540 million yuan to subsidize small and medium-sized enterprises, and grant another 200 million yuan in tax rebates for labour-intensive, export-oriented enterprises. Shanxi and Chongqing have also introduced measures to control layoffs. ...



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 07:13:54 PM EST
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It would be great if you could sum up yesterday's and today's comments on this topic into a diary..?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 03:03:31 AM EST
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[Moustache of Understanding Alert]

We Found the W.M.D. | NYTimes.com - Op-Ed Columnist - Thomas Friedman

So, I have a confession and a suggestion. The confession: I go into restaurants these days, look around at the tables often still crowded with young people, and I have this urge to go from table to table and say: "You don't know me, but I have to tell you that you shouldn't be here. You should be saving your money. You should be home eating tuna fish. This financial crisis is so far from over. We are just at the end of the beginning. Please, wrap up that steak in a doggy bag and go home." <...>

This is the real "Code Red." As one banker remarked to me: "We finally found the W.M.D." They were buried in our own backyard -- subprime mortgages and all the derivatives attached to them. <...>

"A great judgment has to be made now as to just how big and bad the situation is," says Jeffrey Garten, the Yale School of Management professor of international finance. "This is a crucial judgment. Do we think that a couple of hundred billion more and couple of bad quarters will take care of this problem, or do we think that despite everything that we have done so far -- despite the $700 billion fund to rescue banks, the lowering of interest rates and the way the Fed has stepped in directly to shore up certain markets -- the bottom is nowhere in sight and we are staring at a deep hole that the entire world could fall into?" <...>

"The biggest mistake Obama could make," added Garten, "is thinking this problem is smaller than it is. On the other hand, there is far less danger in overestimating what will be necessary to solve it."

Conventional wisdom says it's good for a new president to start at the bottom. The only way to go is up. That's true -- unless the bottom falls out before he starts.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 07:19:59 PM EST
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Thou wouldst mock teh Mustache of Understanding!

Well Suck. On. This.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 08:58:47 PM EST
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Drew J Jones: Well Suck. On. This.

Wow.  Friedman makes a lot of sense when he talks about green jobs and the green economy.  And since I had not seen much writing by him lately regarding Iraq, I thought he had gone contrite.  That video clearly shows otherwise.

Which presents what I call a Heidegger Dilemma.  I know a lot of people think Martin Heidegger was full of shit as a philosopher, but I was drawn to and impressed by a lot of his ideas.  Thus, when I discovered that he had been a Nazi who had not altogether repudiated or explained his involvement with Nazism, I had to ask myself:  "If someone is so fundamentally wrong on such basic moral issues, are all his philosophical thoughts automatically suspect?"

Here, Friedman demonstrates an appalling, almost bestial lack of moral sensibility with respect to the invasion of Iraq.  So what are we to make of his thoughts on greening the economy, which at face value are so rightheaded?

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 10:11:37 PM EST
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Humans are complex, they can have both good and bad ideas. Judge his arguments for the green economy on their merits.  They are not dependent on the accepability of his views about Iraq. To label someone and then reject their views entirely is just lazy and prejudiced. Not only may Heidegger have had some good ideas, even Hitler did - from a major biography, generally critical:


From the start, Hitler had assumed direction of the major strategy of the war.
...
 He then struck against France, invading through the Ardennes rather than through the Low Countries. ... The campaign as a whole was a brilliant success and Hitler could claim the major credit for its overall planning.
...

Allan Bullock: ADOLF HITLER: A STUDY IN TYRANNY

http://www.holocaust-trc.org/wmp07.htm



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:39:04 AM EST
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Hmmm. I'm not sure your analogy is entirely on point. The fact that a Nazi might be talented in military strategy does not run counter to our concept of a military strategist in the way that the assertion that a Nazi might be a great philosopher runs counter to our concept of a great philosopher.

I am not saying that we should reject everything that Friedman (or Heidegger) wrote out of hand. But I believe that egregious errors in judgment are fair grounds for approaching an individual's views on any topic with a dose of skepticism.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 05:20:04 AM EST
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  1. Philosophy isn't just a matter of moral judgments - his philosophical arguments might have been as "brilliant" a success as Hitler's early military strategy.

  2. Friedman has made a lot of judgments and has been critical of almost everything else Bush has done. One mistake, even major, doesn't necessarily mean all his other judments will be wrong.

  3. A dose of scepticism is always a good idea - even with people we like and whose judgments so far seem to have been sound - I TRY to be critical of Chomsky - but it's difficult :-)


Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 08:03:17 AM EST
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Ted Welch: Judge his arguments for the green economy on their merits.

I agree.  This echoes your comment above as well.

Emotionally, however, I still feel uncomfortable when a thinker can be so repugnant ethically on one issue and yet have compelling philosophical ideas on other issues.  Is this what they call "cognitive dissonance"?  But these are feelings, nothing more than feelings.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 05:47:46 AM EST
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Part of the problem is because philosophy is understood both as a general view of life - "my philosophy of life", and an academic discipline. Some aspects of philosophy are quite technical, so it's quite possible to be good at that while having very nasty moral views - just as with, say, a physicist.

Even this guy could appreciate the difference between ideology and philosophical merit:


In 1967 Heidegger had an encounter with the poet Paul Celan, a Jew who had survived concentration camps operated by the Nazis' Romanian allies. While admiring aspects of Heidegger's writings, Celan had long been aware of Heidegger's involvement with National Socialism.

On July 24 Celan gave a reading at the University of Freiburg, attended by Heidegger. Heidegger there presented Celan with a copy of What is Called Thinking?, and invited him to visit him at his hut at Todtnauberg, an invitation which Celan accepted. On July 25 Celan visited Heidegger at his retreat, signing the guestbook and spending some time walking and talking with Heidegger. The details of their conversation are not known, but the meeting was the subject of a subsequent poem by Celan, entitled "Todtnauberg" (dated August 1, 1967).

The enigmatic poem and the encounter have been discussed by numerous writers on Heidegger and Celan, notably Lacoue-Labarthe. A common interpretation of the poem is that it concerns, in part, Celan's wish for Heidegger to apologize for Heidegger's behavior during the Nazi era.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 09:28:47 AM EST
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Obviously, different areas and schools of philosophy have more or less bearing on morality and ethics than others.  But in the case of Heidegger, at least those of his ideas which interested me, his philosophy had a close bearing on what it means to be and act in the world.  I was concerned that the flaws in his worldview which made him sympathetic to Nazism also might have introduced hidden weaknesses in the philosophical structures he erected upon that same worldview.

If he were a formal logician or an analytical philosopher, I would be far less concerned (though even in those cases I suppose it is conceivable that one might find some connection between his philosophical ideas and his moral sentiments, remote and contrived though it may appear.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 10:07:39 AM EST
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It all depends what you mean by "Nazism" :-) Not all Nazi party members would have agreed to everything the Nazis did, especially towards the end.


 If, for Heidegger, Nazism is a nihilistic and dehumanizing ideology based in the metaphysics of subjectivity, a modern ideology with which his thought cannot be identified, how should we then understand his most controversial statement from the Introduction to Metaphysics, about the "inner truth and greatness" of National Socialism? (52) First, this statement, made during a lecture delivered in 1935, can be regarded as ironic and as an expression of Heidegger's growing disappointment with actual National Socialism. To assess it properly, we have to consider the context in which it was made. In the context of a totalitarian state, where attitudes of loyalty to the ideology and hostility to its opponents are imposed in a particularly intensive fashion, even a slight criticism of the regime can be subjected to severe punishment. On the other hand, in such a context, any critical allusion or covert criticism becomes transparent to those who keep their ears open. It would then be immediately clear to the attentive audience of Heidegger's lecture that the "inner truth and greatness" of National Socialism did not imply its outward truth and real greatness. They would regard this statement not as a support of the actual Nazi movement but rather as a criticism of it.

...
What follows from these statements is that Heidegger initially associated National Socialism with a movement that would bring Germany back to its "age-old traditions," renew its spiritual strength, and take it away from the heritage of modernity that has been developing since the seventeenth century. (59) Bringing Germany back to its ancient traditions constituted for him the "inner truth and greatness" of this movement. (60) He saw in it an antidote against modernism. However, he was soon disillusioned. Although the Nazis indeed tried to revive German traditions and regarded modernism as a disease, they at the same time engaged in building a totalitarian state and developed an ideology that was philosophically unacceptable to Heidegger. (61) The actual National Socialism, run by people who "were much too limited in their thinking," and with its political violence and book burning, totalitarian control of the vital resources of the state and the racial composition of the people, and politicization of society and mass rallies, was precisely the ideology which he covertly criticized in his writings, along with Americanism and Communism.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3545/is_2_61/ai_n29399025/pg_7?tag=artBody;col1

The article goes on to suggest it was even more complex than that. It starts by saying:


MARTIN HEIDEGGER IS WIDELY ACKNOWLEDGED to be one of the most original and important philosophers of the twentieth century, while remaining one of the most controversial. His thinking has contributed to such diverse fields as phenomenology, existentialism, hermeneutics, aesthetics, literary criticism, and theology. His critique of traditional metaphysics and his opposition to positivism and technological world domination have been embraced by leading theorists of post-modernity. He influenced such prominent thinkers as Gadamer, Arendt, Habermas, Derrida, Foucault, and Lyotard.


 

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 02:45:50 PM EST
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Markets wary of Irish debt as fresh rescue looms

Told you so...
Funny it took the markets three more weeks than I to realize this...


Michael Klawitter, a strategist at Dresdner Kleinwort, said the cost of insuring Irish sovereign debt through credit default swaps (CDS) has surged to 133 basis points. "The markets have begun to see a risk to the solvency of the Irish government. They are questioning whether it has the financial muscle to back up the guarantees," he said.
[...]
Ireland is vulnerable because financial services make up 9.8pc of GDP, including its 'Canary Dwarf' enclave of hedge funds. The liabilities of its lenders are twice Irish GDP. Britain, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria and Luxembourg are in the same boat.
[...]
Ulster Bank gave warning that Ireland's economy will contract by 4pc next year. As a member of the eurozone, Ireland cannot devalue or slash interest rates to cushion the downturn. Nor can it resort to a fiscal boost since the budget deficit is nearing 8pc of GDP.


Pierre
by Pierre on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 05:03:49 AM EST
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WORLD
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:54:08 PM EST
UK's foreign secretary: Iran is biggest world threat, thanks to risks of its nuclear program -- Newsday.com
LONDON (AP) _ Britain's foreign policy chief said Friday that Iran continues to pose the most serious threat to the world, warning that Tehran's suspected pursuit of nuclear weapons risks an arms race across the Middle East.

David Miliband said in a speech that the standoff over Iran's nuclear program -- which Tehran insists is aimed at developing a civilian energy program but which Western leaders say is an effort to make nuclear weapons -- must be quickly resolved.

"In the next year, the most pressing threat to global order ... comes from the actions of Iran," said Miliband, Britain's foreign secretary. "Its refusal to address the international community's concerns about its pursuit of nuclear enrichment threatens to spark a nuclear arms race throughout the Middle East."

Miliband said that if Iran persists, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and others could be forced to consider whether they also need nuclear weapons to defend their interests. Israel is widely considered to have nuclear arms but has a "no tell" policy on the issue.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:58:18 PM EST
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I think that milliband is being punished by the gods for his temerity in attmepting to challenge gordon Brown. They have made him mad.

Ignore him, even when he froths at the mouth, and he will go away.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 07:19:48 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Americas | Chavez tested in Venezuelan polls

Venezuelans are voting in elections to choose new state governors and more than 300 mayors across the country.

The polls are being seen as a critical test for President Hugo Chavez, whose allies won in all but two of the country's 23 states in 2004.

Such a margin of victory is unlikely this time, correspondents say.

Last year Mr Chavez suffered his first electoral defeat in almost 10 years, losing a referendum that would have let presidents seek indefinite re-election.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:00:27 PM EST
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Hillary plays hardball - Americas, World - The Independent
The first sign of friction in the Obama camp as Mrs Clinton demands - and gets - a purge of her critics before accepting Secretary of State role

Before Hillary Clinton has been formally offered the job as Secretary of State, a purge of Barack Obama's top foreign policy team has begun.

The advisers who helped trash the former First Lady's foreign policy credentials on the campaign trail are being brutally shunted aside, as the price of her accepting the job of being the public face of America to the world. In negotiations with Mr Obama this week before agreeing to take the job, she demanded and received assurances that she alone should appoint staff to the State Department. She also got assurances that she will have direct access to the President and will not have to go through his foreign policy advisers on the National Security Council, which is where many of her critics in the Obama team are expected to end up.

The first victims of Mrs Clinton's anticipated appointment will be those who defended Mr Obama's flanks on the campaign trail. By mocking Mrs Clinton's claims to have landed under sniper fire in Bosnia or pouring scorn on her much-ballyhooed claim to have visited 80 countries as First Lady they successfully deflected the damaging charge that he is a lightweight on international issues.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:00:43 PM EST
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Robert Fisk: Once more fear stalks the streets of Kandahar - Robert Fisk, Commentators - The Independent
Five years after his last visit, our correspondent finds the Taliban back in charge of their spiritual home - and girls attacked with acid simply for attending school

There is a little girl in the Meir Wais hospital with livid scars and dead skin across her face, an obscene map of brown and pink tissue. Then there is another girl, a beautiful child, Khorea Horay, grimacing in pain, her leg amputated, her life destroyed after her foot was torn to pieces. In another ward, two girls lie on their backs, a tent above their limbs. One has lost an arm, another - a 16-year-old - a leg.

Then there is the grim young man with the beard, also in the darkest pain, who looks at me with suspicion and puzzlement. He has a bullet wound in the abdomen, a great incision sutured up after the doctors found it infected. Two other young men, also bearded, cowled in brown "patu" shawls, sit beside this suffering warrior. They, too, stare at me as if I am a visitor from Mars. Perhaps that's what I am in Kandahar. Better to be a Martian than a Westerner in a city which in all but name has fallen to the Taliban.

The black turbans are everywhere. So are the blue burkhas which we Westerners confidently - stupidly - believed would vanish from Afghan society. But the Taliban insist they were not responsible for throwing acid in the face of the little girl in the second-floor ward at Meir Wais hospital. You know what she is thinking. You know what her parents are thinking. Who will marry this girl now, with her patchwork face of pain? Four men on a motorcycle threw acid at her and 13 of her friends on their way to school. Four were brought here, two dispatched immediately to the eye department. The Taliban deny any involvement. But they would, wouldn't they?

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:01:01 PM EST
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Really, the taliban would deny it ? thyey've seemed bery pleased to accept repsonsibility for previous atrocities against women and girls. So, I wonder if perhaps there's something going on Rf isn't picking up.

I don't know what that might be but it does seem a strange denial.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 07:23:46 AM EST
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A swedish kind of death: Oh, and one thing we can do to make matters better for those suffering under brutal conditions is pushing for liberal asylum rules. The US could let the million or so (or is it millions?) displaced by the war in Iraq flee to the US. That would improve the situation for the refugees, as well as decreasing the strain on iraqi society. It won't, but it could.

Do you think granting more liberal asylum rules will help the girls in this article if we just pack up and leave Afghanistan?

I don't mean to reduce your argument to that one point, but this is precisely the story which makes it hard for me to accept the "We have no business there" position re: Afghanistan and, to a lesser degree, Pakistan.

No doubt this debate has been hashed out a thousand times already, probably at ET more than once as well.  (Please send me the link[s] if so.)

But what are the criteria do we apply to decide when to intervene militarily in a foreign country, aside from self-defense?

-- feasibility?
-- type of injustice
-- scale of injustice?
-- economic cost?
-- distance?

We intervened in Kosovo.  We did not intervene in Rwanda or Darfur, and we did not intervene in Afghanistan until we had a "self-defense" pretext.

And now that we are already there in Afghanistan, we are clamoring to abandon the country despite the high likelihood that horrific injustices will increase in the resulting vacuum.

Again, no need to re-tread arguments if they have been made here.  If so, please just point me to the diary or thread.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 09:36:19 AM EST
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Migeru and DoDo have described themselves as recovering international interventionists.  Here are their takes on the issue:

DoDo's take
Migeru's take

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 09:53:12 AM EST
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Thanks, rg.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 10:11:27 AM EST
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D-squared Digest -- FOR bigger pies and shorter hours and AGAINST more or less everything else
A particularly annoying species of Afrobollocks is the use made in opinion journalism of the 1994 genocide in Rwanda. I've written about this before - basically, for purposes of editorialising all one needs to know is that "nobody intervened and therefore hundreds of thousands of people were killed". The Rwanda Gambit is played by someone wishing to add a sprinkling of moral gravitas to whatever point they want to make, usually about the United Nations being tragically inadequate to the modern world because of its failure to endorse the bombing of a current enemy. It's irritating bullshit, and is not rendered any less so by the fact that Paul Kagame is all too inclined to play the same game at the drop of a hat.

...

I've made this point about Turquoise before but it's important so I'm making it again. There is a really annoying tendency among the pro-intervention lobby to pretend it didn't happen and that "there was no intervention in Rwanda". There was an intervention in Rwanda, it was Turquoise and it made things worse. It was a somewhat politically motivated, terribly badly planned and wholly counterproductive exercise. Or in other words, the normal kind. Using the example of Rwanda as a data point in favour of unilateral intervention requires you to have a theory about why Turquoise can be considered as irrelevant or sui generis. Without that (or even worse, to make rhetorical use of Rwanda without mentioning Turquoise at all) is a particularly toxic strain of Afrobollocks.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 02:52:54 PM EST
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Redrawn theoretical map makes Pakistan uneasy - International Herald Tribune

ISLAMABAD: A redrawn map of South Asia has been making the rounds among Pakistani elites. It shows their country truncated, reduced to an elongated sliver of land with the big bulk of India to the east, and an enlarged Afghanistan to the west.

That the map was first circulated as a theoretical exercise in some U.S. neoconservative circles matters little here. It has fueled a belief among Pakistanis, including members of the armed forces, that what the United States really wants is the breakup of Pakistan, the only Muslim country with nuclear arms.

"One of the biggest fears of the Pakistani military planners is the collaboration between India and Afghanistan to destroy Pakistan," said a senior Pakistani government official involved in strategic planning who insisted on anonymity in accordance with diplomatic rules. "Some people feel the United States is colluding in this."

That notion may strike Americans as strange coming from an ally of 50 years. But as the incoming Obama administration tries to coax greater cooperation from Pakistan in the fight against militancy, it can hardly be ignored.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:01:17 PM EST
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start here.

The map is this one:



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 06:42:43 AM EST
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Several countries remain in violation of land mine treaty - International Herald Tribune

GENEVA: Greece, Turkey and Belarus have all violated an international treaty by not destroying land mine stockpiles, and 15 other countries, including Britain, will miss their 2009 clearance targets, a coalition of monitors said Friday.

The coalition, the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, said that more than 5,400 people were killed or maimed last year by antipersonnel mines, cluster munitions and other ordnance that can lie dormant for decades before exploding.

In its 1,155-page Landmine Monitor Report, the coalition of nongovernmental groups said that while trade in land mines was now "virtually nonexistent," many countries were moving too slowly to get rid of the crippling weapons.

Denmark, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Peru, Britain and Venezuela, which are among those seeking more time to clear their mined areas, should all have finished by now, said the ICBL, which was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1997.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:01:46 PM EST
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As opposed to the US, which never signed it to begin with.
by Zwackus on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 09:18:34 PM EST
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The great game of hunting pirates - Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan
"Sir, you have done India proud." That was how the anchorman of a television channel in Delhi addressed the Indian navy chief, Admiral Sureesh Mehta, on the victorious sea battle by warship INS Tabar with would-be hijackers as dusk was falling on Tuesday evening in the Gulf of Aden.

Those words would have made Sir Francis Drake, the 16th-century British navigator and slaver-politician of the Elizabethan era, truly envious. Sir Francis had bigger claims to fame in a life cut short by dysentery while attacking San Juan, Puerto Rico, in 1595.

Unsurprisingly, the patriotic Indian media dutifully expressed its gratitude and confidence once again in the armed forces. The armed forces, too, gained an opportunity to look away from a raging controversy over alleged involvement of servicemen in terrorist activities by Hindu fundamentalists. The Indian navy has seen "action" after a long interlude of 37 years since the Bangladesh war.

A carefully worded navy statement suggested that pirates attacked the Tabar and the latter "retaliated in self-defense" and opened fire on the mother vessel. The pirates "made good" their "escape into darkness" while the Indian warship sunk a pirate boat. The incident received wide international attention. But it also raises some questions.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:04:02 PM EST
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Rich countries launch great land grab to safeguard food supply | Environment | The Guardian
* States and companies target developing nations

* Small farmers at risk from industrial-scale deals

Rich governments and corporations are triggering alarm for the poor as they buy up the rights to millions of hectares of agricultural land in developing countries in an effort to secure their own long-term food supplies.

The head of the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation, Jacques Diouf, has warned that the controversial rise in land deals could create a form of "neo-colonialism", with poor states producing food for the rich at the expense of their own hungry people.

Rising food prices have already set off a second "scramble for Africa". This week, the South Korean firm Daewoo Logistics announced plans to buy a 99-year lease on a million hectares in Madagascar. Its aim is to grow 5m tonnes of corn a year by 2023, and produce palm oil from a further lease of 120,000 hectares (296,000 acres), relying on a largely South African workforce. Production would be mainly earmarked for South Korea, which wants to lessen dependence on imports.

"These deals can be purely commercial ventures on one level, but sitting behind it is often a food security imperative backed by a government," said Carl Atkin, a consultant at Bidwells Agribusiness, a Cambridge firm helping to arrange some of the big international land deals.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:05:54 PM EST
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The head of the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation, Jacques Diouf, has warned that the controversial rise in land deals could create a form of "neo-colonialism", with poor states producing food for the rich at the expense of their own hungry people.

Not much to add...except that all that food will make sick and kill many in the rich land...which is only right...
by vbo on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 12:54:26 AM EST
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Melamine tableware health risk -- Shanghai Daily | 上海日报 -- English Window to China New
CHINA is expected to add a melamine test to its quality inspection of tableware after an industry expert warned that substandard tableware made with melamine may pose a health risk.

The Ministry of Health and the General Administration of Quality Inspection, Supervision and Quarantine are paying close attention after Dong Jinshi, deputy director of the Beijing-based International Food-Packaging Association, said that tableware made with melamine plastics could pose a threat.

The health ministry is expected to revise the country's standards for tableware production, and the General Administration of Quality Inspection will begin spot checks in the market, Shanghai Evening News reported.

China has never capped the amount of melamine that can be used to make tableware. In Europe, only 30 milligrams per kilogram of melamine are permitted in tableware, the newspaper said. ...


Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 02:51:22 AM EST
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THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:54:29 PM EST
13-year-old Italian boy diagnosed with PlayStation addiction - Telegraph

Lorenzo Amato was rushed to hospital by his father, who feared he was suffering a stroke or brain trauma as the teenager would not respond to his surroundings.

At first doctors at Lecce hospital, Southern Italy, thought Lorenzo Amato was suffering from a severe brain disorder.

The teenager couldn't speak and didn't seem to understand anything going on around him.

Doctors diagnosed the condition after discovering that Amato had just finished a marathon session on his new PlayStation.

Local politician Antonio Buccoliero, who spoke to the doctors, said: "They eventually managed to take care of him once they understood that this was a strange kind of mental detachment connected to his PlayStation."

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:57:05 PM EST
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China issues first definition of Internet addiction | Xinhua (2008.11.9)

Chinese doctors released the country's first diagnostic definition of Internet addiction over the weekend, amid efforts to address an increasing number of psychological problems that reportedly result from Internet overuse.

    Tao Ran, a medical expert at Beijing's Military General Hospital, where the definition was developed, said it was also the first time for China to officially designate hospital psychiatric units to treat such cases.

    Symptoms of addiction included yearning to get back online, mental or physical distress, irritation and difficulty concentrating or sleeping.

    The definition, based on a study of more than 1,300 problematic computer users, classifies as addicts those who spend at least six hours online a day and have shown at least one symptom in the past three months.

    "Eighty percent of addicts can be cured with treatment, which usually lasts about three months," said Tao. He did not describe the treatment, however.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 11:32:57 PM EST
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It is sad nowadays to be child...
by vbo on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 12:57:27 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Americas | Meteor lights up Canada's skies

Footage of a large meteor streaking across western Canada has been broadcast on Canadian television.

The video filmed from a local police car on patrol, showed a small light turning into a massive fireball as it fell from the sky and appeared to hit the Earth in the distance.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:06:08 PM EST
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Portugal's electric car deal leads way

Portugal is to become the first European country to be supplied with electric cars by Renault and Nissan after signing an agreement to create a national network for zero-emission vehicles within three years.

The plan highlights Portugal's commitment to invest in clean energy, despite concern that the global financial crisis is deterring governments from implementing ambitious European Union plans to fight global warming.

Under the agreement, finalised with the Franco-Japanese carmaking alliance over the weekend, 320 vehicle charging locations will be operational across Portugal by 2010, growing to 1,300 by the end of 2011.

Companies and motorists who buy electric cars will be exempt from road and other automobile taxes and individuals will qualify for income tax benefits of up to €800 ($1001, £673), said José Sócrates, prime minister.

The government will also require 20 per cent of public sector vehicle purchases to be zero-emission.



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 03:12:40 PM EST
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Not sure which part of this thread this is appropriate to, but . . .

Even though I don't comment a lot, reading these threads gives me more international and European news than trawling through several conventional news sites. Thank you.

And I particularly appreciate the births of notables marked each day. Makes me think about what they achieved and whether I know enough about them.

by Mnemosyne on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 04:05:48 PM EST
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Thank you Mnemosyne, for the feedback. It is nice to know you appreciate the Salon. :-)
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 01:34:56 AM EST
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Daily Kos: State of the Nation

The reason the US and Japanese companies have different total costs for their American workers?  The US companies have been employing American workers for almost a hundred years.  They have a lot of retirees.  Most of the Japanese auto plants in the US are less than 20 years old.  They have almost no retirees, so their costs are only for active workers.  

So, why is this pernicious falsehood about inflated wages bouncing around the public discourse on the auto industry?  Several reasons.

First, it demonizes unions and their members as greedy and not interested in the long-term health and profitability of the corporations with which they sign contracts.  It also ignores the fact that in 2007 the UAW signed a landmark contract in which they assumed future responsibility for healthcare for their members employed by the Big Three.  The auto companies paid in to a fund, which will be administered by the UAW.  Over the long haul, this is expected to radically decrease the auto companies' legacy costs (although the best way to help company and union is to pass national health care).  

Making false claims inflating the earnings of unionized workers is also part of the Republicans' long-held practice of class warfare.  It's intended to gin up envy and disgust at people making a good hourly wage.  Few people would be unsympathetic to an auto worker for making $58,000 per year.  But more would feel unsympathetic if they thought that same auto worker made $73 per hour, which over the course of a year is over $150,000.  

Finally, harping on imaginary and inflated wages for workers is a way to distract from one of the big problems with the US auto companies (and most US corporations in any sector): executive compensation.  For instance, in 2007 General Motors CEO Rick Waggoner made close to $20 million in total compensation.  

Are you surprised that conservatives are playing with math to come up with the false figure of $73 per hour for UAW members working at the Big Three, while saying nothing about a Big Three CEO making $9,500.00 per hour?

Me neither.  



"Music is the pleasure the human mind experiences from counting without being aware that it is counting." - Leibniz .
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 10:26:30 PM EST
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What's So Special About a Team of Rivals? | NYTimes.com - Op-Ed Contributor - James Oakes
... there's more mythology than history in the idea that Lincoln showed exceptional political skill in offering cabinet positions to the men he had beaten in the race for the 1860 Republican nomination.

For one thing, there was nothing new in what Lincoln did. By tradition, presidents-elect reserved a cabinet position, often secretary of state, for the leading rival in their party. John Quincy Adams inaugurated the practice by appointing one of his presidential rivals, Henry Clay, to that post. It was a controversial move in 1824; enemies of Adams denounced the appointment as a corrupt bargain.

By the 1850s, the practice had become a tradition. In that decade, Presidents Millard Fillmore, Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan installed in their cabinets men who had been major rivals for their party's nomination. <...>

... The most momentous decision of Lincoln's presidency was whether to issue an Emancipation Proclamation. But Lincoln made the decision pretty much on his own, and he presented it to his cabinet as a fait accompli.

There is little doubt that Abraham Lincoln was a great president. But not much of what made him great can be discerned in his appointment of a contentious, envious and often dysfunctional collection of prima donnas to his cabinet.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 11:29:19 PM EST
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Jidda Journal - As Taboos Ease, Saudi Girl Group Dares to Rock - NYTimes.com

... this country's harsh code of public morals has slowly thawed, especially in Jidda, by far the kingdom's most cosmopolitan city. A decade ago the cane-wielding religious police terrorized women who were not dressed according to their standards. Young men with long hair were sometimes bundled off to police stations to have their heads shaved, or worse.

Today, there is a growing rock scene with dozens of bands, some of them even selling tickets to their performances. Hip-hop is also popular. The religious police -- strictly speaking, the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice -- have largely retreated from the streets of Jidda and are somewhat less aggressive even in the kingdom's desert heartland.

The change has been especially noticeable since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, when the Saudis confronted the effects of extremism both outside and inside the kingdom. More than 60 percent of Saudi Arabia's population is under 25, and many of the young are pressing for greater freedoms.

"The upcoming generation is different from the one before," said Dina, the Accolade's 21-year-old guitarist and founder. "Everything is changing. Maybe in 10 years it's going to be O.K. to have a band with live performances." ...



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 11:59:44 PM EST
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KLATSCH
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:54:58 PM EST
The Roman 'orgy' that kicked off La Dolce Vita - Europe, World - The Independent
It's 50 years since the Fellini film that defined an era. Peter Popham reports

For Philip Larkin the annus mirabilis was 1963 when "sexual intercourse began". But Rome was a couple of jumps ahead, and this month Italy is celebrating the start of the "Dolce Vita" years which began, all agree, 50 years ago this month, in November 1958, with an impromptu striptease in a Roman trattoria.

La Dolce Vita, "The Sweet Life", was the title of one of Federico Fellini's most seductive films and naturally grew to encompass the liberated era that inspired it.

Suddenly everything became possible, to the shock of many at the time. In 1958 Olghina di Robilant was a penniless young Venetian countess struggling to make a living in the Italian capital, and that November her rich friend Peter Howard Vanderbilt agreed to cheer her up by bankrolling a birthday party for Olga - her 24th.

Now 74, she remembers Rome as safe, cheap, innocent and puritanical. "There were no crowds, no pushing, no corruption, no unsavoury ambition. The paparazzi, for example, took photos with the agreement of the stars." She threw her party in Rugantino, a trattoria in Trastevere, and one of the guests was the commissar of the local police station.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 01:56:03 PM EST
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Fran:
Now 74, she remembers Rome as safe, cheap, innocent and puritanical. "There were no crowds, no pushing, no corruption, no unsavoury ambition. The paparazzi, for example, took photos with the agreement of the stars."

So all the "crowds, no pushing, no corruption, no unsavoury ambition" can trace their roots to an orgy in 1958?  Is there any chance that the Countess's memories of Rome as "safe, cheap, innocent and puritanical" are a bit rosy-colored?

Well, then again, maybe not:

Today all the old-timers agree that Rome has gone to the dogs. The crowds and permanent police guard make diving into Trevi Fountain an unattractive proposition. Rugantino's trattoria is now a McDonald's, while Via Veneto, according to Enrico Lucherini, agent to the stars, "is terrible now, full of shoe shops and tourist restaurants charging €15 for a coffee".


Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 06:45:59 PM EST
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Silvio Berlusconi: Yes, yes, yes, Prime Minister - Times Online
Beautiful women adorn the Italian government of Silvio Berlusconi. But wiretaps on his telephones reveal that experience and merit weren't the qualifications he was looking for

Silvio Berlusconi, the 72-year-old Italian prime minister, is no stranger to scandal. Having survived 17 criminal trials without conviction, he has inured the Italian public to feelings of shock or indignation. Last January, the prosecutor's office in Naples indicted Berlusconi and issued a report containing extracts of over 1,000 wiretapped conversations depicting Italy's state TV network, RAI, as a casting couch that Berlusconi used to grant favours to aspiring actresses -- he called them "le fanciulle mie" (my girls) -- and to try to bring down the government. The report had no impact. In the spring elections, Berlusconi returned triumphantly to power after less than two years in opposition.

But in early summer, when Naples prosecutors indicated there were hundreds of other wiretaps, of a personal nature, which they requested be destroyed, Italy's political-journalistic gossip mill began churning. Forget abuse of power and possible criminal wrongdoing -- bring on the sex! Press reports speculated that the tapes contained raunchy comments involving Berlusconi and three female members of his government. Rumours about the prime minister's shenanigans are often coloured by political allegiance: critics favour stories about a doddering septuagenarian addicted to penis pumps and mysterious injections; supporters paint him as a tireless Don Juan, capable of satisfying two or three women at once.

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:02:44 PM EST
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Preparing for a funeral here: my father died on Friday.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:36:26 PM EST
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Condolences...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:40:02 PM EST
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I'm sorry to hear that.  All the best.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 05:20:44 PM EST
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Losing one's father is a terrible thing. Condolences, Colman.

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 05:59:32 PM EST
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My condolences, Colman.
by lychee on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 11:49:49 PM EST
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I'm so sorry to hear that, Colman.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 11:57:24 PM EST
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Condolences.
by vbo on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 01:05:43 AM EST
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I'm very sorry to hear that, Colman.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 03:34:37 AM EST
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My condolences...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 04:15:45 AM EST
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I'm sorry to hear that.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 05:08:12 AM EST
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Wishing you all the strength you need, Condolences, Colman.

Skennah Kowa
by Crazy Horse on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 05:24:49 AM EST
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thinking of you. I'm so sorry

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 07:46:54 AM EST
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Sad news. Must be a hectic time for you. Hang in there, my best thoughts to you and the whole family.
by Nomad on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 10:33:54 AM EST
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I am so sorry, Colman.  Your family is in my thoughts.

:(

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Mon Nov 24th, 2008 at 03:46:47 PM EST
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peace to you, Colman.

"Music is the pleasure the human mind experiences from counting without being aware that it is counting." - Leibniz .
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Tue Nov 25th, 2008 at 08:09:43 AM EST
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The few, the proud, the destructive - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com
The few, the proud, the destructive

Reading this article about the downfall of Citigroup -- a downfall clearly many years in the making -- I suddenly remembered an article just a bit over a year ago: The Richest of the Rich, Proud of a New Gilded Age.

The tributes to Sanford I. Weill line the walls of the carpeted hallway that leads to his skyscraper office, with its panoramic view of Central Park. A dozen framed magazine covers, their colors as vivid as an Andy Warhol painting, are the most arresting. Each heralds Mr. Weill's genius in assembling Citigroup into the most powerful financial institution since the House of Morgan a century ago.

I also found myself thinking about the Kaplan-Rauh paper finding that Wall Street was largely responsible for the surge in very high incomes, which was widely taken as evidence that the new rich were really earning their money (though to be fair Tyler Cowen didn't say that.)

Time for some reevaluation, don't you think?

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sun Nov 23rd, 2008 at 05:42:04 PM EST
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