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Moscow Court Closes Politkovskaya Trial to Public - NYTimes.com

The convoluted trial of three men accused of involvement in the killing of the journalist Anna Politkovskaya took a new twist on Wednesday when a judge decided to bar the media from the proceedings, reversing a decision made two days earlier to open the courtroom to the public.

The judge, Yevgeny Zubov, told the court that jury members had refused to participate in the trial if the media were allowed to attend, said Karinna Moskalenko, a lawyer for the Politkovskaya family. Mr. Zubov said on Monday that he would close the trial if jury members were pressured.

Ms. Moskalenko said the judge had not offered convincing evidence of the need to bar the public for the safety of the jury, adding that she was disappointed, but not surprised, by the ruling.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 11:33:52 AM EST
Even trying to be generous it's hard to unearth a reason for allowing Lieberman to stay on the Homeland Security committee that doesn't reflect badly on the Senate Democrats. This is a man who has been knifing Democrats since before I started reading dKos way back in early 2004, yet somehow they always manage to find a way to reward him for his duplicity.

I think Jane Hamsher is wrong when she says this;-

Asked what it would mean if Lieberman kept his chairmanship, one Senate Democratic aide said bluntly: "The left has been foiled again. They can rant and rage but they still do not put the fear into folks to actually change their votes. Their influence would be in question."

I hope this puts to rest the notion that this is all some master stroke of kumbayah, of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.

This is about telling you that you mean nothing. That democracy is a nice word, but it should never threaten the entitlement of the most exclusive club in the world.

No matter what Joe Lieberman does, the people who are protecting him hate you much more than they hate him.

but that's because I don't think there was any consideration about wider implications or messages to support groups at all. The Beltway dams are sad relics nostalgic for a golden era of clubby collegiality about the business of government that rises above narrow party concerns. Even if he's an (-I), to them he will always be one of them, somebody who looks for their lead, not from their own House majority leader, but from the most eye-swivellingly moronic of the republicans. The problem for the Democrats is not that Joe is uniquely traitrous to their cause, but that so many of the DC Democrats actually share his desire to be repugnant.


keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 11:36:42 AM EST
EK makes the alternative case:

EzraKlein Archive | The American Prospect

Here's what you need to say about Lieberman: His heterodoxies have remained contained. Unlike John McCain, who conveyed his post-2000 disgust with the Republican Party by sponsoring a lot of liberal legislation on essentially random issues, Lieberman's fight with the Democrats has not strayed from foreign policy. For instance: His 2007 AFL-CIO voting record was 84 percent. That's exactly the same as his lifetime AFL-CIO voting record. In the most recent Congress, his score from the League of Conservation was 96 percent (which is actually a recent career high). Lieberman is, arguably, an extremely reliable Democratic vote. The exception, of course, is foreign policy, where he's an extremely reliable Republican vote.

But he's not really needed on foreign policy votes. The president has broad autonomy on strategic questions.

...

That said, the operational effect of stripping Lieberman would have been that he becomes a Republican, and caucuses with them. It would have meant his incentives shift to curry favor with Republican voters. It would have, in other words, made him a fairly unreliable Democratic vote on domestic issues. The question became, then, does the satisfaction of retribution outweigh the value of one more vote in an extremely close Senate? It's hard to say that it does.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 11:42:06 AM EST
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But being in charge of the homeland Security commission brings with it certain investigative responsibilities, responsibilities he singularly refused to discharge whilst his House equivalent was being extremely energetic on issues such as FISA, Katrina etc etc. So, irrespective of his voting record, in terms of running the second most powerful committee in the Senate he was not a reliable democrat at all. In fact by his inaction he was more or less providing cover for Bush.

The worry now is not that he remains so indolent, but that he discovers an energy so far lacking and starts using his powers to get in the way of the Obama legislative efforts. That committee can cause real problems for a president if he so wishes, the question is; does he wish ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 11:50:57 AM EST
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Not really.  In order to cause real problems, they're going to need the votes to cause real problems on the committee, and I don't think Lieberman will have them.

And if he screws around, he can be kicked off.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 12:10:07 PM EST
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I hope you're right, but it does seem to me there is much the committee should do yet doubt that Lieberman will move in that direction.

EK might have a point, but running the second most powerful committee in the Senate does look like the sort of thing you get as a reward for doing good works, not what you get despite being backstabbing scum.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 12:30:59 PM EST
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He doesn't deserve it.  He deserves to be strung up by his balls from the ceiling of the Oval Office after Obama takes the oath.  Plenty of other senators are much more deserving of that spot than the Senator from Tel Aviv, especially Leahy and Sanders (who were apparently the only two to speak out against Lieberman in the meeting).

I wish Vermont chose all of our politicians.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 12:49:41 PM EST
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And, anyway, we have Rahm for a reason.  If his violent tendencies towards enemies of Clinton in the 1990s are any indication, I'd imagine Rahm is frightening enough to keep HoJo in line.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 12:55:38 PM EST
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I thought Rahm was a DLC guy who was in the tank for Lieberman during the CT primary and has had his back ever since.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 01:24:30 PM EST
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Rahm will take his overall direction from Obama.  He will have some influence on Obama, but Obama himself is very strong minded.  That said, Rahm seems to be someone who knows how to do business with a knife, a la LBJ's definition of a politician.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 01:41:55 PM EST
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Everybody was in the tank for Lieberman during the primary, but I don't think anybody really had Lieberman's back openly after the primary with the possible exception of a few close friends.  Once he'd lost the primary, everybody either bailed or kept their mouths shut.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 01:47:59 PM EST
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For an ignorant Frenchman, what are exactly the powers of a committee head in the Senate ?

The Senate seems to have a lot of complex hierarchies, and many are not all that clear...

Un roi sans divertissement est un homme plein de misères

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 12:12:50 PM EST
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From Wikipedia:

The United States Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs has jurisdiction over matters related to the Department of Homeland Security and other homeland security concerns, as well as the functioning of the government itself, including the National Archives, budget and accounting measures other than appropriations, the Census, the federal civil service, the affairs of the District of Columbia, and the United States Postal Service. The committee's name was formerly the United States Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, prior to homeland security being added to its responsibilities.

The politics of the committee are up in the air for now, because so many Republicans on it were either defeated in the election (Stevens, Sununu, possibly Coleman), have retired and been replaced by Dems (Warner, Domenici), or are in serious danger in upcoming elections (Voinovich).  Collins and Coburn are the only two Reps certain to be on for the foreseeable future, but even they're likely without problem, since Collins can be pushed around and Coburn has a good relationship with Obama after working on transparency issues with him.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 12:21:16 PM EST
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No hearings can be held without the consent of the committee chairman.  He sets the agenda.  That was why there was no oversight of GWB from 2002 to 2006.  After 2006.......

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 03:55:50 PM EST
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Daschle's appoint to Health & Human Services ought to make everyone feel better.  He was a lousy campaigner when he was in the Senate, but he's serious about health care and knows every parliamentary trick in the book.  Even if it comes down on partisan lines (not likely), Daschle can get the reform package through.

I think Ezra's right, too, about Daschle's appointment being a clear sign that Obama's serious on that issue.

The Lieberman issue aside, we've had a couple good Cabinet picks in the last two days.  Holder is with us on the key issues at DoJ ("zero-tolerance" on torture, against the death penalty, against the expansion of executive power, etc), and Daschle is a good choice on health care reform.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 02:23:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Ah, I was gonna ask about your take on the way the appointments are shaping up, but htought it was too early.

Any ideas for DoD ?

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 02:49:44 PM EST
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I'm not sure who's ultimately going to wind up at DoD, but the consensus seems to be that Obama's going to keep Gates on to begin the withdrawals from Iraq, and then a new secretary will be confirmed after a few months.

My money's still on Samantha Power as national security adviser, but who knows?

Richardson will fit in somewhere, too.  In fact, he may be SecState, depending on what turns out to be true and false about the Clinton thing (and it's tough to tell since the idiot Clintonistas are, of course, leaking a million things per minute).

On paper at least, like I said, I think Daschle and Holder are very good picks.  Daschle signals that they mean business on health care.  Holder signals that they mean business about rolling back the police state.  And even little Rahm made the right noises on universal health care and green energy infrastructure in front of the CEOs at the WSJ forum.

Daschle and Emanuel, more than anything, seem to point to a desire to have people who know the workings of Congress (based on their backgrounds and the statements from the campaign), which goes along with the stated intention to move hard and fast after Inauguration Day.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:39:26 PM EST
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A long time ago during one of my comments (I think it was directed to Migeru) I was futilely trying to recall the name of a newly released book this year that described in detail the study of emotions in animals. This lapse has of course always continued to bug me; I resent continuous gaps of memory.

As I'm preparing for my winterbreak in Europa, I went today through a pile of old papers and lo and behold - there was the article that described the book .

"Pleasurable Kingdom" by Dr. Jonathan Balcombe. Looks exactly like the book I will look for when killing time on the airport.

So there. One piece of my mind has been brought to rest.

Anyone read it perchance?

by Nomad on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 12:12:08 PM EST
This person has and by now even his cat may know about it :-)


Pleasuarble Kingdom ... is well written and pleasurably light reading. It makes an interesting point that we might not normally consider. There's nothing at all wrong with this book, and anyone with an interest in animal welfare (or just in animals) certainly ought to read it. My hesitation to give it a higher rating is just a feeling that as science this isn't too exciting. But that doesn't spoil the enjoyment of reading it. I may even read it to my cat... (Great cover picture, by the way.)

Popular Science

http://www.pleasurablekingdom.com/reviews.html




Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 12:37:12 PM EST
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I am so relieved to have confirmed that such lapses are not exclusively the province of age.  :-)

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 03:59:55 PM EST
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Hi guys.

How do you insert a poll in a diary you're writing?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 01:19:31 PM EST
Isn't it automatically at the bottom ?

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 01:22:56 PM EST
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Dammit, of course it is.

</stupid>

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 01:26:21 PM EST
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A medical breakthrough and example of international co-operation. There's also a very good animation about the operation:


Surgeons in Spain have carried out the world's first tissue-engineered whole organ transplant - using a windpipe made with the patient's own stem cells.

The groundbreaking technology also means for the first time tissue transplants can be carried out without the need for anti-rejection drugs.

Five months on the patient, 30-year-old mother-of-two Claudia Castillo, is in perfect health, The Lancet reports.

...

Scientists from Bristol [UK] helped grow the cells for the transplant and the European team believes such tailor-made organs could become the norm.

To make the new airway, the doctors took a donor windpipe, or trachea, from a patient who had recently died.

Then they used strong chemicals and enzymes to wash away all of the cells from the donor trachea, leaving only a tissue scaffold made of the fibrous protein collagen.

This gave them a structure to repopulate with cells from Ms Castillo herself, which could then be used in an operation to repair her damaged left bronchus - a branch of the windpipe.

The animation is here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7735696.stm

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 01:53:43 PM EST
I was aware that such projects were in process.  It is great to see them reduced to therapeutic practice.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:02:17 PM EST
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Professor Martin Birchall, professor of surgery at the University of Bristol who helped grow the cells for the transplant, said: "This will represent a huge step change in surgery.

"Surgeons can now start to see and understand the potential for adult stem cells and tissue engineering to radically improve their ability to treat patients with serious diseases."

He said that in 20 years time, virtually any transplant organ could be made in this way.

US scientists have already successfully implanted bladder patches grown in the laboratory from patients' own cells into people with bladder disease.

The European research team, which also includes experts from the University of Padua and the Polytechnic of Milan in Italy, is applying for funding to do windpipe and voice box transplants in cancer patients.

Clinical trials could begin five years from now, they said.



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:11:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

France to double green share of electricity market

 18/11/2008 00:00

France announces detailed plan on how it will double its share of renewable sources in the electricity market to meet the 2020 objective set by the EU.

18 November 2008

PARIS - France on Monday published details of plans to double the share of renewable sources in its electricity market to meet a 2020 EU objective.

Solar will spearhead the challenge to give renewables a 23-percent share of the electricity mix by 2020, compared with 10.3 percent in 2005, Ecology Minister Jean-Louis Borloo said, as he unveiled the 50-point plan.

"Solar is the big one," said Borloo. "In industrial terms, and in terms of lower industrial costs, it's there that we have the biggest capacity."

He contended that solar energy would be competitive with other sources "around 2020".

One measure will be to build 300 megawatts of capacity through large sun farms that will be set up in each region. The size of each facility will depend on local geography and exposure to the Sun.

Supermarkets and other installations with large roofs will be encouraged to install photovoltaic panels - power-generating solar cells - with the help of a special feed-in tariff.

Nuclear currently accounts for around 80 percent of France's electricity needs, by far the highest proportion of any country in the world.

France ranks fourth in the EU for installed solar capacity, after Germany, Spain and Italy. Capacity rose from six MW in 2006 to18 MW in mid-2008.

In wind power, the goal is to increase the amount of installed capacity by a factor of 10, from 2,500 MW in 2007 to 25,000 MW in 2020, with the backing of a new roster of laws.



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 02:21:51 PM EST
and while we're on the subject of France - here's a reminder to help Jerome in his time of paranoid suffering :-) - and others may not have seen it:


One in three Britons would prefer to live in France

Carried out during French Wines Week in London, a new ICM poll¹ reveals the impact of the French lifestyle on the British.

According to the survey, a third of British citizens say they would rather live in France than the United Kingdom. Italy and Spain come third.

Of those aged under 50, one in five British citizens would have preferred to have been born in France rather than the United Kingdom and two out of five would be prepared to cross the Channel and set up home in France.

In their quest for a better life, the British are attracted by the wealth and diversity of France's culture and of course her gastronomic tradition. Even when asked for their favourite breakfast, three fifths of those under 50 would opt for coffee and croissants rather than a full English.

Over the past decade, France has been captivating more and more people from across the Channel. Another reason for this fascination is the success some French celebrities have been having in Britain: the "Thierry" factor (Thierry Henry), films such as "Amélie Poulain" and "The Da Vinci Code" are contributing to this British passion for France.

For more information on French Wines Week in London and on French Wines, visit their website: www.frenchwinesweek.com

¹Poll commissioned by French Wines involved interviews with 1,010 people aged 18 and over in the UK during August 2006.

http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/One-in-three-Britons-would-prefer.html



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 02:49:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"Solar is the big one," said Borloo.

Or the big cop-out. Solar can be the big one if expanded on rooftops; the one concrete measure mentioned is beans:

One measure will be to build 300 megawatts of capacity through large sun farms that will be set up in each region.

...which is big only compared to:

France ranks fourth in the EU for installed solar capacity, after Germany, Spain and Italy. Capacity rose from six MW in 2006 to 18 MW in mid-2008.

In Germany, capacity will be about 4,300 MW at year-end (with an expected 1,500 MW added just this year). Meanwhile:

In wind power, the goal is to increase the amount of installed capacity by a factor of 10, from 2,500 MW in 2007 to 25,000 MW in 2020, with the backing of a new roster of laws.

That addition in wind would generate about 200 (two hundred) times more than those giant solar farms totalling 300 MW capacity... people should really stop being awed of giant solar farms.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:46:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm currently in and out of hospital waiting to find out if my father is dead or not: he had  a second heart attack on Monday and hasn't woken yet. He may not.

I've had better weeks, especiallly since I'm half full of antibiotics and inhalers as part of my annual chest infection and asthma festival.

I'm avoiding commenting much here since my social skills are less reliable than usual at the moment . . .  

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 02:59:15 PM EST
My thoughts and best wishes are with you and your family.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 03:09:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry to hear that - good luck.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 03:21:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm sorry to hear this. And be careful for yourself as well.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 03:40:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm sorry to hear that.  All the best.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 03:40:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Good luck to your father and to you, Colman.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 03:55:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Awful news - good luck and good wishes to both of you.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 03:58:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The rating I gave you for this post shows my appreciation of your willingness to share your problems.  I always feel queasy giving a 4 to someone when they are discussing serious health issues on account of possible misinterpretation.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:08:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yes "excellent" in this context seems like an example of the way Colman sees his social skills at the moment. The comment is more important than the rating.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:30:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Take care.

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:40:18 PM EST
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Hang in there, Colman.  I'm sending good thoughts your way.  If there's anything I can do, let me know.

Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding. -Hobbes
by Izzy (izzy at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:56:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm sorry for your father, Colman. I wish he will recover.

"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 06:07:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Good luck.
by lychee on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 12:25:30 AM EST
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Oh man. I wish both of you a full and speedy recovery.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:04:59 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The S&P 500 index has close at 806, it's lowest close of this decade.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:11:04 PM EST

 Researchers find that people can control their perception of pain by changing their thinking habits.

19 November 2008

BOPPARD, GERMANY - "Pain is an emotional reaction to an evaluation in one's head," said Ruediger Fabian, president of German Pain Aid, an organisation based in the town of Gruenendeich. Anyone can control this evaluation, he said.

The sensation of pain is subjective. As explained by Professor Rolf-Detlef Treede, president of the Boppard-based German Society for the Study of Pain (DGSS), sensory receptors send the signal to the spinal cord. The central nervous system then passes it on to the brain, which processes it in various ways.

...

In extreme situations, the body itself provides the strongest pain killers. Marathon runners can switch off their pain. Their brains release endorphins and adrenalin, Zieglgaensberger said. These chemicals, called neurotransmitters, produce a "runner's high" in trained runners and make them insensitive to pain.

The body reacts to serious injuries in a similar way. "After a traffic accident, for example, endorphins enable a person to move a broken leg to get out of the car," Zieglgaensberger noted.

But neurotransmitters are not only released in extreme situations. Taking a placebo, which has no pharmaceutical effect, can also alter a patient's perception of pain. "Then it's a matter of the affected person's conviction," he said.

http://www.expatica.com/fr/articles/news/Mind-power-can-help-control-pain-.html



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:18:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In my case, the long, tortuous stock market crash is not "painful;" it's "worrisome." And you probably can't understand, but for someone with my genes, worrying does not cause pain, but rather "pleasure" :-)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:44:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, if it gives you pleasure - maybe you should give your cat things to worry about, perhaps it shares your genetic disposition - (see "Pleasurable Kingdom" above) :-)

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:59:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
We now have three cats, thus making for plenty to worry about. Tomorrow, I'll be introducing "Irving," our most recent adopted stray, to ET, via the photo blog.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 05:12:27 PM EST
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When he's wrong, he is very very wrong, but when he is right, he is awesome:

Salon: Buchanan: The Kos crowd deserves a Cabinet pick

On MSNBC's "Hardball" tonight, Pat Buchanan was not only insisting Barack Obama should pick Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, he also gave Obama advice about handling his left-wing base - and it's not what you'd expect. Buchanan suggested that with his next Cabinet pick, "he ought to give someone to the Daily Kos ... the people who supported and elected him."

This on a day when one anonymous Democratic aide bragged to Chris Cilizza that letting Joe Lieberman keep his chairmanship would mean: "The left has been foiled again. They can rant and rage but they still do not put the fear into folks to actually change their votes. Their influence would be in question." It's odd that Buchanan shows more respect for the left than leading Democrats do. The Lieberman decision is an abomination, and Obama and the Democrats may well regret it. Buchanan is no friend of the left, obviously, but he's an old-time pol who understands the importance of keeping the base happy. Too many Democrats seem to think the first thing they should do when they get power is display contempt for their base.




Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:30:47 PM EST
I'm not sure Rachel's housetrained him that much, he's still a creature of the right and kos himself would admit that it's not a wise idea to take advice from those who wish you harm.

So you gotta ask yourself what's he trying to achieve and my first (second and third) thought is that he's sowing mischief. Irrespective of whether Obama does or does not pick someone from the "left", he has put the idea in play which allows him to tweak the administrations tail about it. And frankly it's too late, cos the only thing the liberals wanted was Lieberman's head on a plate.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 05:00:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I think it's pretty simple. Buchanan is an anti-interventionist conservative, and was totally against Bush on Iraq. A check on the DLC types is actually in his interest.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 05:07:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I find the comment extremely forthright in general terms as well. As Buchanan well knows, the right-wing base - and not the center - helped to perpetuate the "Reagan revolution" by drastically shifting the Overton window. If the Democrats are going to really change things, they need to enable the Left (such as it is in the US) to shift it back.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Nov 20th, 2008 at 03:11:15 AM EST
[ Parent ]
How A-Bomb Testing Changed Our Trees

[...] There was, says Professor Nalini Nadkarni, an ecologist at The Evergreen State College in Washington state, "a tremendous spike of carbon-14 -- actually 100 percent more carbon-14 coming into the atmosphere than what we'd had previous to those [atom bomb] tests."

Leaving The Neighborhood

Those clouds of carbon-14 atoms didn't stay at the bomb sites. "This cloud of carbon-14 went 'round and 'round and 'round the Earth and was persistent for quite a while," Nadkarni says.

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It turns out that virtually every tree that was alive starting in 1954 has a "spike" -- an atomic bomb souvenir. Everywhere botanists have looked, "you can find studies in Thailand, studies in Mexico, studies in Brazil where when you measure for carbon-14, you see it there," Nadkarni says. All trees carry this "marker" -- northern trees, tropical trees, rainforest trees -- it is a world-wide phenomenon."

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Bottom Line: Those Atomic Bombs 50 Years Ago?

The amazing lesson of all this is that a bunch of atomic bomb blasts from 50 years ago changed the biology of the world, searing themselves into most living things, and the evidence is still there. If you were born around 1954 or shortly thereafter, those bombs made their mark -- in you!

Heh, thanks a bunch.
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by Loefing on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:40:40 PM EST
Hi Loefing :-)

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 04:47:31 PM EST
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Hi, LEP

How do you like your carbon-14? Easy over? With a side of pine needles?

:-)

by Loefing on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 05:11:04 PM EST
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At the moment I'm hating trees because I live in the Forest of Fontainebleau and I'm very allergic. But I just had my allergy injection today so by tomorrow evening I'm hoping to be loving trees again.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 05:18:47 PM EST
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What an unusual allergy. It can't be pollen-related at this time of year.

Good to know you've found treatment for it, in any case.

by Loefing on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 05:43:12 PM EST
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I'm allergic all year reoud but it's worse in late Fall and late Spring; The humidity of the forest has something to do with it, plus all the vegetation (with or without Carbon-14) plus all the farms and horses around me. When I go to Paris and breathe in the diesel fumes,  I feel better.

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 06:20:48 PM EST
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I just read a comment elsewhere that an insurance company like AIG deserves a bailout because its balance sheet is backed by "real" assets including houses and house insurance. Contrarily, GM does not deserve a bailout because as a car maker it does not have real assets (beyond a few factories).

Is it fair to say that this reflects a pre-industrial viewpoint? When agriculture is where the money is, land is the important asset. When you're manufacturing stuff, the assets are the technology, the processes, the intellectual property (gag), the goodwill of customers, etc. Google and Microsoft don't have real assets, for example...

by asdf on Wed Nov 19th, 2008 at 10:27:30 PM EST


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