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by Jerome a Paris
Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 10:10:38 AM EST

I am looking forward to the week-end


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Tomorrow is buy nothing day for Europe. Don't go to a shop to buy stuff. Do it for all the American shoppers and employees that get killed or miscarry on the last Friday of November in shops across that great nation, every year.

P.S. contrast this and this. Thanks for feeding the hounds, newsday.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 10:25:51 AM EST
A friend's Facebook update from a mall in the San Francisco Bay Area this morning -- at 7 AM:

This is my first black Friday experience & it is a trip. Kind of sad. Fights, tears, desperation. Ah, the spirit of the season!

I don't know why she decided to do this to herself this year, but I have an inkling it has something to do with her kids getting old enough to want shit they see on TV.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 10:56:28 AM EST
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I'm pretty sure that most European countries have rules that forbid advertising something at a discount for 6 hours. The German appliance megastores sometimes get slapped on the fingers (not nearly often and hard enough, by the way) for offering this or that at a discount when they have less than two days worth of stock, which is required by law.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:21:27 AM EST
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No can do. It's my birthday tomorrow. I have to be able to buy beer at the very least.

Mais c'est un scandâââle!!
by redstar on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:18:08 AM EST
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Ah, just in case I'm not around tomorrow: many happy returns.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:54:13 AM EST
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Well, I'm not going to get between a Frenchman and his... beer. I'll have to do some groceries myself this evening if I am to avoid it tomorrow, or on Sunday (in the spirit of Christmas most shops will be open on the first Advent in Berlin)
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 12:29:01 PM EST
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Tomorrow is a very good day.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 04:16:02 PM EST
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With it also being your birthday! And my Birthday Eve.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 06:23:27 PM EST
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Uhmm -- Happy Birthday to you ! ;o)

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last! (Martin Luther King)
by ValentinD (walentijn arobase free spot frança) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 07:16:21 PM EST
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Your birthday, too, by now.  A very happy one, ceebs. :)

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 09:32:31 PM EST
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Just as Jesus would've wanted it.

My mother used to drag me out to Black Friday sales when I was a little kid, but we dropped it as things got more and more psychotic.  Tickle-Me Elmo was the point at which it got out of hand, I think.  It was all downhill after that.

It's just insane and always winds up being tragic.  I wouldn't go unarmed nowadays.  And there's nothing in the stores you can't get online.  It might cost a few bucks more, but I'll pay five bucks extra to, you know, not die.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:52:59 AM EST
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Fucking miltonites sucks fucking balls

Jörg Radeke, an economist at the centre for economics and business research (CEBR), said: "Today's figures suggest that the impact of the recession in the eurozone has gathered pace with the total level of unemployment rising significantly.

"Although the labour markets in the euro area's biggest economies, namely Germany and France, have been surprisingly resilient in the past months, it is our view that this reflects inflexibility of the labour markets rather than economic robustness. On a brighter note, the continuing contraction of consumer price inflation will allow the European Central Bank to cut rates further and a 50 basis point reduction at the beginning of December is almost certain."


(emphasis mine)

A 'centrist' is someone who's neither on the left, nor on the left.
by nicta (nico@altiva․fr) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 10:52:03 AM EST
CEBR

It's not even a Think Tank - just a 'consultancy.'

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:30:14 AM EST
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I could think of an analogy for the difference, but it would probably be sexist.

Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine - Patti Smith
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 12:26:12 PM EST
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I want to laugh, because there is no damn difference --in effect or purported expertise-- between "think tank" and "consultancy". There are significant quant and qual discrepancies with published opinion, one may say inference.

OK, actually, lately I've needed to justify off-sides, intimate acquaintance with characteristics of (n): small (12 > n < 1,750) vs large (>5,000) dataset manipulations for descriptive purposes or predictive power, knowing poor μ (mooooo) ≤ 5% N is an axiomatic threshhold to modeling normal macroeconomic, politcially self-serving gears which determine  or characterize populations ≥ 500K. NB the gaps.

Personally, I've no reason to believe analysis of abonormal distributions produces affirmative "national" or totalitarian governing strategy. I'm not convinced that standardizing every business input and output is a requirement of economic and lawful security and business. (Here is an interesting interview in which participatns dispute the social-level function of commecial litigation. Ambiguous to say the least. The people need righteous attys rather than "economists", desperately.) Then again, I'm a democrat, willing and able to negotiate specious benefits and losses to effect economic stability, over all and over time.

So I realized, again: all those joker citations rely on *.gov compound estimates to formulate a story fit to print. And it is that methodoligical gate to the pasture that separates the ignorant (phil.) from, at least, the skeptical.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 04:46:02 PM EST
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A think tank probably has tax-exempt status, what with all the public service they do for the good of humanity.

A 'centrist' is someone who's neither on the left, nor on the left.
by nicta (nico&#65312;altiva&#8228;fr) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 05:12:58 PM EST
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I've personally never done a survey. I don't doubt some "tax-exempt" NGO has performed a survey and published findings on the www. More important, charitable contributions to "think tank" operations always fund business activities such as publishing and P2P petitions (lobbying) to broadcasters and elected representatives. Some NGOs are established vendors in the supply chain of "manufactured consent." Not unlike faculty of educational institutions, their sole functions are to justify poorly conceived and executed public doctrines such as TARP and the NAFTA treaty. Setser is exemplary.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 07:13:05 PM EST
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What is he talking about; that workers in France and Germany have too many protections?

Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 12:03:41 PM EST
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Duh. Of course, that's what he is talking about: that workers in France and Germany have too many protections, that is causes the French and German economies to be "more resilient", makes the "reformed" and "competitive" economies look bad in comparison and it mustn't be tolerated any longer.

When facts makes theory look bad, it's urgent to kill the facts (what have they done for us lately?).

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 04:18:45 PM EST
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Court: Sarkozy Voodoo doll should not be stabbed - Yahoo! News
Court: Sarkozy Voodoo doll should not be stabbed

doll depicting French President Nicolas Sarkozy, in Paris in this ...

PARIS - A French appeals court says Voodoo dolls of President Nicolas Sarkozy may remain on sale, but must carry a notice saying that pricking them harms the president's dignity.



Hey, Grandma Moses started late!
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 12:08:13 PM EST
In similar news:

President Sarkozy said it was only fair that inflatable sex dolls should also carry a notice saying that pricking them was an insult to women's dignity

</dream on>

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 04:06:19 PM EST
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caspar2

with a bit of Romantic nationalism:

From artdaily.org for today:


AMSTERDAM.- The Hermitage Amsterdam is to end its stay on Nieuwe Herengracht with a remarkable finale. For the first time ever all the works by Caspar David Friedrich (1774-1840) from the collection of the Hermitage Museum in St Petersburg will be loaned for a special exhibition about this renowned German artist
...

[Friedrich:]`For our art critics our German sun, moon, lakes and rivers are not enough. If the aim is elevated art and beauty, it must all be Italian.'

... he decided not to journey to Italy to learn about art, but found inspiration in the landscapes of his surroundings: Rügen, Rostock, the country around Dresden and the Giant Mountains.

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=27330&int_modo=1

Caspar Friedrich (1774-1840). Friedrich rejected the conventional formula of recent neoclassical painting in favor of depicting nature and the German landscape, often with an emphasis on spirituality, nationalism, and the past.

http://www.nga.gov/press/exh/160/index.shtm



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 12:21:50 PM EST
That thing is so laboriously constructed. Oh let us all follow the rather obvious pathways to spirituality, nationalism, and the past.

(Could be a Tolkien illustration).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 04:10:16 PM EST
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A rather unhistorical view afew - see his objection to the Italian influenced works popular with artists and critics of his time - he died in 1840 - a few decades before Impressionism.  This would have seemed incredibly "natural" for the period and have met with the kind of criticisms the Impressionists got at the beginning. You don't have to like it of course, but it's useful to see it in context and how naturalistic it was for the period.

As it happens, there is another exhibition referred to today in artdaily.com which features exactly the kind of really constructed, Tolkien-illustration type painting popular at the time Friedrich was working. But even Hackert's works were seen as rather naturalistic for the period before Friedrich:

hackert2-s


HAMBURG.- Jakob Philipp Hackert (1737-1807) regarded landscapes as natural events, and his precisely observed depictions of geological and atmospheric phenomena marked a turning point in 18th-century landscape painting. For the first time, a comprehensive exhibition of Hackert's work is being presented at the Hamburger Kunsthalle in cooperation with the Klassik Stiftung Weimar (Foundation of Weimar Classics).

... he spent the greater part of his life working in Italy. Here he established his reputation as an internationally acclaimed artist and contributed greatly to shaping the image of Italy before 1800. Besides veduta, harbour views and hunting scenes, Hackert above all painted atmospheric landscapes in the Roman Campagna, Tuscany and parts of Southern Italy such as Naples and Sicily.

http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=11&int_new=27453



Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 04:48:16 PM EST
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No pretention on my part of presenting an historical p-o-v, just my reaction as a Man of the 21st Century, lol.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 05:12:50 PM EST
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I've been off with flu most of the week - sporadic lucidity, or what passes for it, started returning yesterday, and I'm almost normal today, as long as I don't do anything dangerous or exciting like eat or drink stuff.

But I would like my week back. If anyone sees it, can you email it to me?

Thanks.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 01:05:08 PM EST

"That was the week that was - it's over, let it go ..."
:-)

One for Sven again.

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience

by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 01:15:11 PM EST
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Hope it'll all be cleared away soon.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 04:12:23 PM EST
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Hope ya feel better soon.

I think (hope) I got a brief and mild one this year, thankfully.  Last year was pretty brutal.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 09:35:18 PM EST
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More of the same.  Tutoring tomorrow with Megan who claims she's one of the few who's grade in Chem improved during the term.

She asked me recently if I bought any Christmas gifts.  I told her that all of the buying was a load of crap and I simply treat everyone the way I myself want to be treated throughout the year, and that's my Christmas present to everyone.  But I'm old fashioned.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!

by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 02:30:42 PM EST


Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner - that I moved to Nice. Blog - Nice Experience
by Ted Welch (tedwelch-at-mac-dot-com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 02:42:14 PM EST
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I knew Megan was one of the few.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 04:19:42 PM EST
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Hello afew.  Did you catch that report of a 2.5 lb white truffle unearthed in Italy?  They're going to auction it off over the net.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 11:17:21 PM EST
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In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 05:35:27 PM EST
RUDE AWAKENING
see more crazy cat pics

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Nov 28th, 2008 at 05:51:57 PM EST


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