European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 5. December

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When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:32:09 PM EST
BBC NEWS | Europe | France unveils huge stimulus plan

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has unveiled a 26bn-euro ($33bn; £23bn) stimulus plan to help France fend off financial crisis.

The measures include a 1bn-euro loan for carmakers and 5bn euros of new public sector investments.

The plan amounts to 1.3% of France's gross domestic product and should boost its economic growth by 0.6% in 2009.

It will also increase the budget deficit to 3.9% of GDP from the previously forecast 3.1%.

This is above the 3% ceiling demanded by the European Commission, but the rules have been eased to help members of the European Union tackle the crisis.

About 20bn euros will be added to the public debt.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:42:35 PM EST
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EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The European Commission on Wednesday (3 December) announced that low-income Europeans are set to win new financing for solar panels attached to their homes, better insulation in their walls and fit their windows with double-glazing, but ultimately no new funds have been attached to the proposal.

 As part of its proposed stimulus package to boost the union's wilting economy, the EU executive said it would co-finance national and local schemes investing in energy efficiency and renewable energy measures in poor households.

But despite the fanfare, there will be no new EU spending. The move is simply a rule change that potentially unblocks obstacles to existing funds being spent on such refurbishments.

"There is no additional EU spending," regional policy spokesperson Dennis Abbott told EUobserver.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:03:25 PM EST
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but why no money? And why only for low income households?

Home energy efficiency is good for the economy in the short term (construction work), in the long run (lower energy spending) and is good for the environment too (less waste of resources). It should be a non brainer to do this on a large scale.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:43:05 AM EST
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17 judges, one ruling - and 857,000 records must be now wiped clear | Politics | The Guardian

The fingerprints and DNA samples of more than 857,000 innocent citizens who have been arrested or charged but never convicted of a criminal offence now face deletion from the national DNA database after a landmark ruling by the European court of human rights in Strasbourg.

In one of their most strongly worded judgments in recent years, the unanimous ruling from the 17 judges, including a British judge, Nicolas Bratza, condemned the "blanket and indiscriminate" nature of the powers given to the police in England, Wales and Northern Ireland to retain the DNA samples and fingerprints of suspects who have been released or cleared.

The judges were highly critical of the fact that the DNA samples could be retained without time limit and regardless of the seriousness of the offence, or the age of the suspect.

The court said there was a particular risk that innocent people would be stigmatised because they were being treated in the same way as convicted criminals. The judges added that the fact DNA profiles could be used to identify family relationships between individuals, meant its indefinite retention also amounted to an interference with their right to respect for their private lives under the human rights convention.

The case provoked an expression of disappointment from the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, and the promise that a working party, including senior police officials, will report back to Strasbourg by next March on how the government will comply with the judgement.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:23:38 AM EST
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we need the same wiping out of all the semi-illegal databases set up by various French law enforcement units...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:43:49 AM EST
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I notice that they only promise to report on their "paln" in six months. Just deleting them is too easy it seems.

Methinks this is a delaying tactic to enable them to come up with a way of circumventing Europe's decision

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:40:21 AM EST
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De Menezes family mounts silent protest in front of inquest jury | UK news | The Guardian

Relatives of Jean Charles de Menezes stood before his inquest jury in protest yesterday wearing T-shirts saying: "Unlawful killing, your legal right to decide."

On the day the jury were sent out to consider their verdict after 35 days of evidence about the fatal shooting of De Menezes by police, the dead man's cousins withdrew from the hearing.

Earlier this week the coroner, Sir Michael Wright, told the jury he was not going to allow them to consider unlawful killing as one of their verdict options. He said unlawful killing was tantamount to accusing an individual or individuals of murder or manslaughter and was not a verdict that would be available to them.

He also said it was not available should they consider that the death occurred as a result of a series of decisions and mistaken beliefs on the part of the Metropolitan police as an organisation. He left the jury with two verdicts to consider: lawful killing and an open verdict.

Wright told the jurors just as they sat down yesterday that lawyers for the De Menezes family would no longer be present at the hearing. "You will notice Mr Mansfield and Miss Hill and their instructing solicitors are no longer in their places," Wright said.

"The evidence and legal submissions are now all over and we have all had their assistance throughout these very important stages. But I understand that from this point they will no longer be here. There's absolutely no difficulty about that. No disrespect is meant by it to anyone."

Seconds later Vivian Menezes Figueiredo, Alessandro Pereira, Patricia da Silva Armani and Erionaldo da Silva stood up and removed their coats to unveil their T-shirts. They walked slowly and in silence from their seats at the back of the courtroom towards the jury. Standing in line, they waited 30 seconds in full view of the jury before filing out of the court.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:25:03 AM EST
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Yet another inquiry rigged to ensure that nobody gets blamed. an open verdict means "no further action".

A man dies at the hands of the police and nobody is respoinsible, nobody is to be blamed. The police testimony showed that they lied fer chrissakes !!

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:43:12 AM EST
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This is wretchedly, but not so surprisingly, corrupt and unforgiveable.

I'm glad I'm not one of the jurors. I'd be furious.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:11:19 AM EST
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German Army Commissions First Spy Satellite | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 04.12.2008
The German military commissioned its first spy-in-the-sky satellite system on Thursday, Dec. 4 enabling it to peek through clouds or the darkness of night at any spot on the planet.

The synthetic-aperture radar (SAR) system uses five satellites that bounce radar pulses off the earth. Sophisticated computers convert the returning signals into a picture of the ground that can resolve features just 50 centimeters in width.

Germany is to share the data with France, which operates Helios II military satellites that photograph the ground in the daytime.

The 350-million-euro ($445-million) German system, code- named SAR-Lupe, became operational in the summer and was officially handed over to the military Thursday by the builders, OHB System. The ground station is in the town of Grafschaft.

Defense officials said Germany will be able to take radar pictures of any place at about 10 hours' notice, the time it takes for a satellite to arrive overhead and for the picture to be compiled.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:26:34 AM EST
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Germany is to share the data with France

Interesting...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:45:50 AM EST
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The data sharing agreement is already in effect since many years.

France and Germany are also jointly operating the Graves radar, which is a ground-based satellite tracker. They've used it to strong-arm the US administration into no longer disclosing the position of all non-US spy satellites as part of a "debris watch" program (by threatening to disclose the orbits of US spy satellites in retaliation).

Pierre

by Pierre on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:24:04 AM EST
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Merkel Defends on Stimulus, Warns on Climate Change | Germany | Deutsche Welle | 04.12.2008
Angela Merkel defended Germany's strategy for economic rescue, and predicted a tough EU climate change meeting later in December.

Germany expects tough negotiations when EU leaders meet on December 11 and 12 to decide on measures to combat the global financial crisis, as well as a climate-change package, Chancellor Angela Merkel said.

Addressing the lower house of parliament, Merkel said the proposals by the EU Commission for a 200 billion euro ($252 billion) stimulus package were a step "in the right direction."

She dismissed claims that Europe's largest economy was not doing enough to deal with the crisis, saying Germany would not be drawn into "a competition for subsidies and the spending of billions" in state aid.>

Berlin's contribution to the EU scheme is a 32 billion euro stimulus package over the next two years which is expected to result in a 50 billion euro boost to consumption and investment, she said.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:27:36 AM EST
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FT.com / UK - Navy faces aircraft carriers delay

The Royal Navy will have to wait up to two years longer for its £4bn aircraft carriers under cost-cutting plans being finalised by John Hutton, defence secretary.

The decision to push back one of the government's sacrosanct defence equipment programmes represents a sharp reversal. Ministers have always insisted the two ships would be in service by 2014 and 2016.

According to industry insiders, the Ministry of Defence is considering two options: delaying the in-service date of the first carrier by 12 months or delaying the second ship by up to two years.

Mr Hutton's willingness to delay such an important programme underlines the severity of the cash crisis facing the MoD. He has expressed determination to make the department "live within its means" while prioritising support for frontline troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He is expected to stress that investment will not stop and there will be no impact on jobs. The delay, intended to spread costs, will also help synchronise the project with the expected delivery in 2017 of the F-35 Lightning II or Joint Strike Fighter, the aircraft being built to fly from the ships.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:34:22 AM EST
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Ingeniøren lambasts the Danish government for its traffic and infrastructure plan. The piece is worth reading in full for those who read Danish, but here are some highlights:


  • Forget about moving traffic from cars to trains. In particular, forget every silly notion of cargo transport on rails. Do not mention it.

  • Remember to kick important investments in public transit systems around Copenhagen farther down the road, like the necessary rail ring. Talk much, do little.

  • Remember also to spin thoroughly to the friendly press (read: Berlingske [Berlingske Tidende, bought-and-paid-for advertisement for the Conservatives pretending to be a newspaper - Jake]), by leaking parts of the plans before they've been approved by the coalition, so the press can help make the government appear to have a vision. And so we can beat the last contrarians on Christiansborg [in Parliament - Jake] in line.

And this is from a paper I stopped reading because half the time they sound like they represent the industry despite the fact that they're published by a labour union...

- Jake

640 kiloton should be enough for anybody

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 05:14:28 AM EST
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SPECIAL FOCUS Financial Crisis

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:32:31 PM EST
Oil drops below $44 to lowest in nearly 4 years | Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Oil fell more than 6 percent on Thursday to its lowest level in nearly four years in response to further bleak economic data that could spell a deeper decline in global energy demand.

The number of U.S. workers on jobless rolls hit a 26-year high last month, the government said, while another report showed U.S. factory orders fell sharply for the third month in a row.

U.S. light crude dropped $2.86 to $43.93 a barrel by 1:13 p.m. EST after slipping as low as $43.77 -- the lowest since January 2005. London Brent crude fell $2.87 to $42.57.

Oil prices have dropped more than $100 a barrel from record highs over $147 in July, as the global credit crunch has eaten into demand in large consumer nations.

"Relentless negativity is pressuring the oil complex," said Mike Fitzpatrick, vice president at MF Global.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:34:14 PM EST
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Who is holding the bottom position in Jerome's oil price lottery?
by asdf on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 07:37:14 PM EST
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I made no bet, which surely equals zero, so... :-)

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:50:02 AM EST
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Hedge fund cowboys damaging industry: Veritas | Deals | Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - Hedge funds are suffering "tremendous" reputational damage because promises to make money whichever way markets move have not been fulfilled, although in the long run the industry will benefit from the shake-out, Veritas Asset Management manager Ezra Sun said.

Hedge fund "cowboys" boosting returns with lots of borrowing rather than smart strategies were the main culprits for the reputational damage, with investors blaming them for charging high fees and blocking them from withdrawing their money, he said.

"The market in the past few years has been rewarding people who've been running basically leveraged long-only funds," Sun told Reuters in an interview.

"They are now being shown to be basically cowboys, and a lot of them fell off their horses," he said.

Many hedge funds were charging high fees but not hedging out risk said Sun, who runs the $132 million Real Return Asian hedge fund and the $543 million Veritas Asian long-only fund and who was previously at Newton Investment Management.

The $1.7 trillion hedge fund industry's biggest ever crisis has seen funds lose 15.54 percent in the first ten months of the year, with long/short equity funds down 19.46 percent.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:34:47 PM EST
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Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Sales at U.S. retailers tumbled in November, the worst monthly decline in almost four decades, after the Wall Street meltdown caused consumers to postpone shopping until the holiday-sales kickoff on Black Friday.

J.C. Penney Co., Nordstrom Inc. and Gap Inc. all reported sales drops of 10 percent or more at stores open at least a year. The decreases were less than some analysts estimated after 50 percent-off discounts lured customers grappling with the U.S. recession. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. posted a 3.4 percent gain, beating its forecast.

Declines in consumer spending in October persisted into the first part of November before rebounding after the Thanksgiving Day holiday. Retailers may need to keep promoting half-off markdowns over the next three weeks to attract customers, even though such sales erode margins during a period when they make a third or more of their annual profit.

"The promotions are pretty much across the board in retail, and some are the biggest you've seen in years," said David Abella, a portfolio manager at Rochdale Investment Management LLC in New York, with $2 billion in assets including Wal-Mart shares. "They will need to keep that up through December to draw traffic and sales."

Even with the Black Friday discounts, November same-store sales fell 2.7 percent, the International Council of Shopping Centers said, based on a survey of 37 chains. That's the biggest drop since the ICSC began tracking data in 1969. Excluding Wal-Mart, sales plunged 7.7 percent.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:35:26 PM EST
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Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. lawmakers were told General Motors Corp., the country's largest automaker, may fail this month if they don't give the cash infusion the company seeks.

"I believe we could lose General Motors by the end of this month," Ronald Gettelfinger, president of the United Auto Workers union, told a Senate panel today in Washington.

The Big Three automakers renewed their plea for an emergency federal bailout as a deadlocked Congress showed no progress in deciding how to aid them. GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner said his company needs an "immediate" $4 billion, and $4 billion more next month.

"We're here today because we made mistakes," Wagoner told the Senate Banking Committee. "Forces beyond our control have pushed us to the brink."

Wagoner, Chrysler LLC Chief Executive Robert Nardelli and Ford Motor Co.'s Alan Mulally together are asking for as much as $34 billion in federal aid. "I am sorry to be asking for this support," Wagoner told reporters before the hearing began.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:35:57 PM EST
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Not seeing it.

Never figured, regardless of how people felt one way or another, the government would let GM go down, but if they've got less than a month, they're probably not going to make it.

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:09:51 PM EST
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Truly historic times.

I love the smell of roast chicken in the morning!
by THE Twank (yatta blah blah @ blah.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:07:22 AM EST
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Eammon Fingleton on the Dec. 4 in Counterpointbrings us some context to the problems faced by Detroit that has been missing from recent MSM accounts of their problems.  While these factors are hardly new, I can only wonder why they have remained unaddressed for so long.

Defending The American Car Industry

Though you would never know it from the way the news has been reported, for forty years the Detroit companies' foreign competitors have systematically pursued predatory pricing in the American market. They have thereby starved Detroit of the adequate returns necessary to invest in new, more efficient production technologies.

The Japanese in particular have used unfair trade practices to devastating effect. On the one hand they have kept their home market as a protected sanctuary, where they often garner superrich profits. On the other  in the American market they have often sold their products at little more than marginal cost.

All Japanese government denials to the contrary, the Japanese domestic market is heavily protected. Thus the high pricing there is reserved for Japanese producers.  Two German manufacturers, Mercedes-Benz and BMW, enjoy  token positions at the top end but have been  strictly boxed in to ensure that for more than two decades the combined share of all foreign makers has been kept to a mere 4 per cent.

Even Korean car makers are shut out (though they sell effectively against Japanese competition everywhere else). It is not as if the Koreans and Japanese don't trade with each other in other  industries. Actually they do a huge trade:  Korea is Japan's third largest trading partner and Japan is Korea's second. The fact is that as a matter of policy on both sides, cars are not traded (Korea's car market is even more protected than Japan's and even more hostile to American imports).

For students of Japanese protectionism perhaps the most telling point is that though France's Renault company, through its stake in Nissan, nominally controls Japan's second biggest showroom network, it has never been allowed to sell more than a few hundred of its French-made products in Japan.

Fingleton goes on to describe the baleful effect of the strong dollar on the export prospects for US heavy industry.  The only motive he suggests for these policies is the assertion that "members of the American elite wanted to enjoy the benefits of a high dollar when they travel abroad."  This would seem to me to be a secondary or tertiary factor at best in US policy making.  What are the primary benefits for which so many policy makers have allowed Detroits ox to be so gored?

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 06:13:57 PM EST
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This theory of Japanese auto protectionism seems pretty weak to me. For one thing, they drive on the wrong side of the road and Detroit doesn't design their cars to have steering on either side. So that keeps out the vast majority of cars.

For another thing, what about the many markets where the Japanese compete and Detroit doesn't? Like Africa, for instance? Or Southeast Asia?

I think that the biggest problem GM and Ford have is centered on their products, not their wage costs or manufacturing efficiency or brand management or executive compensation. They simply don't make the kinds of cars that people want to buy. You can't buy a car made in Detroit that competes with the Honda Fit or Toyota Yaris. Period. At any cost.

by asdf on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 07:42:12 PM EST
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Having owned both during the last 40 years, I will not argue the quality issue.  However, I have a low mileage 96 Explorer that I bought from my in-laws in Jan, 06 for $6K that has performed fine.  It will tow 5000 lbs. and has 4WD.  I thought it would be handy for in the Ozarks and was right.  It only gets 17mpg, but I knew that going in.  It has about 90K miles on it and I haven't seen any significant quality problems.  My sense it that the quality gap has significantly closed in the last several years.

Should there be money to be made, I think Detroit would have solved the right hand drive issue.  Ford certainly knows how to make right hand drive vehicles.  This is certainly not the first time I have heard the protected domestic market argument and I have yet to see it convincingly refuted.  I doubt that it can be.  Nor is this the first time I have heard the strong dollar argument.

My suspicion is that these policies strongly favor large US retailers and those in the financial dis-services industry who have bought up, closed down and laid off workers of US manufacturers so they could ship the production to China and other low labor cost destinations and then clean up and sell the property formerly owned by said hapless manufacturing companies.

I believe that this is a suicidal, unsustainable race to the bottom that now has succeeded in hollowing out the US economy for the benefit of retail, transport and finance and has helped create a massive national accounts problem that had to blow up, which it is now doing.  

The other significant contributor to this problem has been our oil companies and the associated national accounts problems deriving from importing so much oil, especially at $40 to $140/bl.  This has allowed those companies with domestic production to sell at great profit oil that costs them $2.00/bl. to $20/bl. to produce.

So due to the highly unequal distribution of wealth in this country and the consequent highly unequal distribution of economic and political power the whole country has been systematically looted and run into the ground in the interest of a few small vested interests.  The rest of us are left with the carcass of an economy.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.

by ARGeezer on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:20:52 PM EST
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BTY, American made vehicles were the vehicle of choice for Arabs in Saudi Arabia when I was there.  They were especially fond of large SUVs.  It was a high profit market.  Mercedes also did very well.  Detroit has never done well in low cost vehicles, in part because they have high legacy costs in the form of a long tail of retired workers owed pensions and medical care.  Japanese operated US manufacturing plants as yet have no retirees.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:32:19 PM EST
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My understanding is that the labor cost in a car is only about 10% of the total. It's a capital intensive business, and Japan has pretty high labor costs just as does the U.S.

And you're right that Ford in Europe knows how to make LHD cars--in order to sell them in Britain. But how many Detroit-made cars find their way to Europe?

by asdf on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:47:33 PM EST
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I suspect that the question of legacy costs depends to a large extent on the degree to which the state underwrites the costs of retirement and medical benefits.  If your competitors have only to pay labor costs for those currently working and you have to pay for everyone who ever retired and is still living, you will be at a significant disadvantage.  Same for medical care of retirees.  If your labor costs are 18% and your competition's are 10%, you are still at a disadvantage.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 10:03:56 PM EST
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But only if you create more than your share of retirees and medical cases... Universal health care might be cheaper for them overall, because universal health care is much more efficient than having an insurance industry middleman to take a largish cut. But the money comes from somewhere - and I hardly think European or Japanese companies, automobile industry or otherwise, share a smaller fraction of their earnings with society than American ones.

- Jake

640 kiloton should be enough for anybody

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:11:42 AM EST
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FWIW, CorpWatch posted a disturbing TQM article this Sept on Toyota's model. It skirts suppliers' industry and markets -- outsourced. And certainly challenges conventional reverence for Japanese efficiency in US/EU management literature.

Despite this commitment, Toyota's foreign workers in Japan are second-class citizens. On arrival the guest workers' passports are confiscated.  During the first year as "trainees," they are not covered by Japan's labor or minimum wage laws. They work alongside Japanese workers, putting in the same long hours, but often earning less than half the minimum wage - as little as $2.76 an hour, or $479 a month. As guest workers, they are required to remain with the same employer - no matter how bad the working conditions - and to live in the company housing assigned to them - even though some are charged twice what their Japanese colleagues pay for comparable accommodations. Any worker who tries to change jobs, or who complains about conditions may be forcibly deported. By the time food, housing, and taxes are deducted, some guest workers end up earning less than $600 for an entire year, according to several advocacy organizations and unions that work with subcontract plant temp and guest workers. ...

In the U.S., Toyota has set up non-union plants in the South - far from the unionized auto industry stronghold of the Midwest. Blunting support for unionization is Toyota's practice of paying wages nearly on par with the U.S. auto companies (around $25 an hour in comparison with G.M.'s $26 to $28) - although with much lower benefits.

Meanwhile the Big Three's falling sales and market share have forced the American companies to adopt, and their workers to accept, two-tier wage and temporary worker schemes eerily similar to those used for years by Toyota - just to compete. And the race to the bottom seems to be just warming up. In September 2008, an internal Toyota memo leaked from its Georgetown, Kentucky plant, laid out management's plans to cut $300 million in labor costs in its U.S. operations.

In April 2008, the Wall Street Journal reported that Toyota plans to end its practice of pegging its hourly wages to UAW rates, and will now pay new hires only 50 percent above the local prevailing wage. In Kentucky, this would mean a savings of about 12 percent, or $3.00 per worker hour - which, of course, will put even more of a squeeze on the Big Three U.S. auto companies and their unionized workforce.

Primary strategy. The 2007 GM-UAW contract was the first "bailout" scheme, to capitalize GM's bond rating and pensions in exchange for slashing wages. At the time Gettlefinger said, union members had made enough sacrifices to allow GM to be competitive with non-union automakers. But he's hinted recently bosses aren't averse to breaking the line in order to support the automakers' pitch to Congress for $34B.

The complete Toyota report is at NICNet.org

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:15:28 AM EST
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but but isn't that exactly the issue with greencards in the US. Contractors are brought in from abroad, but on a scheme where the company can claim they cannot employ Americans. The workers don't get a green card, but are instead are only allowed leave to remain courtesy of good relations with their employer. any problems, any grumbling, they're deported.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:55:26 AM EST
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A lot probably depends on what kind of visa they're here on.  I think the situation you're thinking of is sort of a horror story about H-1B visas that you hear about Indians and Chinese in places like Silicon Valley.

Doesn't generally happen that way, in my experience.

Example: A friend of mine is married to a Frenchman[1] who came over on (I'm pretty sure) an H-1B, and who was in the process of getting a green card when they started dating.  The process is expensive and a pain in the ass, but it's a pretty boring and formal process.  I don't think his employer cared much either way.

[1] (See, Jerome, we love the French, even in the South.  And he's not even one of those fake Canadian ones.)

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:42:09 AM EST
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but but isn't that exactly the issue with greencards in the US.

Why, yes, Helen :) picking scabs is an age-old American pasttime. When when labor organizes and agitates and  wage demands squeeze margins, corporates shanghai recruit the world's poor and yearning to be free. By the boat-load.

Oh. That scrubbed Detroit News article, "$10M cost of do-over is obstacle; powerbrokers in Mich. to press solution with national party"? I saved bits I thought interesting back when... March 2008.

The governor, in an interview with The Detroit News, referred to the contest as a "firehouse primary" -- more expansive than a party caucus but not a full-blown affair like a traditional, state-financed primary. People would have to declare themselves Democrats in order to participate, and the contest would be run by the Democratic Party, not the state.
    [...]
In another development, a new Michigan team was set up Thursday to talk with the Democratic National Committee about a resolution. The members are: U.S. Sen. Carl Levin, U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Democratic National Committeewoman Debbie Dingell and UAW President Ron Gettelfinger. All are neutral in the presidential race.
    [...]
The national party needs to ante up or help raise money to pay for it, she said. State taxpayers already shelled out $12 million for the Jan. 15 primary, and Granholm said she won't ask for public funding for a make-up contest. Hillary Clinton won the January primary, but she was the only major candidate [sic] on the ballot. The others, including Barack Obama, had their names removed.
    [...]
Granholm and state Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer said the national party has been pushing for party caucuses. Brewer estimated the cost of running a firehouse primary at $10 million, to cover the mechanics, staff and publicity.

There's always more to the story ...

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 09:18:35 AM EST
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asdf:
For one thing, they drive on the wrong side of the road and Detroit doesn't design their cars to have steering on either side. So that keeps out the vast majority of cars.

That's actually trivial. In a lot of plants around the world, LH and RH drive cars come off the same line.

The problem isn't simply not having small-car designs either: they do - in Europe (the Ford Fiesta is simply the first one that comes to mind).

The US carmakers chose to neglect the economy segment - and now they're paying for it.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:11:40 AM EST
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You are absolutely correct, Ford & GM on a global level know how to build cars that can be assembled for RHD or LHD markets. But the question is about the Detroit segments of Ford & GM. How many Detroit designed cars with wrong-side steering are driving around in Britain or Australia or Japan?
by asdf on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:59:39 AM EST
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At a minimum Ford makes right hand drive cars for the AU and NZ markets.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:45:32 AM EST
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in Japan and South Korea, and does matter. US companies do compete in Europe and are reasonably successful at it, against both Europeans and Japanese.

The problem is that the US market focused, thanks to insanely low gas prices (due to lack of taxation) on bigger and bigger cars, and Detroit did respond to what the market wanted - and fed that demand too, because they had an advantage in the light-truck sub sector.

Demand has shifted brutally because the impact of gas prices is much stronger in the US than elsewhere, and the Big 3 are weaker in the smaller segments - they simply haven't marketed their products as "no-nonsense" cars, and it takes more than a few years to change your product mix.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:57:00 AM EST
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Sorry, how is protectionism real in Japan with respect to cars?

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:32:22 AM EST
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Are you claiming that Japanese crs are so superior that no Japanese person would consider buying a foreign car?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:45:22 PM EST
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I have traveled to South Korea several times in the early 90s: the streets were full of Hyundai, Daewoo, Kia and SSongyang cars & trucks. A few token Mercedes and also a few American vehicles (US troops).

Not a single Japanese car: zero, none. Probably the only country in the world (with North Korea?). It was really striking.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.

by Bernard on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:17:15 PM EST
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No.  I am asking:  What quotas, tariffs, regulations, or other kind of obstacle have been imposed by the Japanese government with the primary intent of keeping foreign automobiles out of the Japanese market.  Because that is the definition of protectionism as I understand it.  And so far I have not heard anyone providing any examples of this.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:21:17 PM EST
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From the viewpoint of Detroit automakers, a barrier is that they drive on the left...
by asdf on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 07:48:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Defending The American Car Industry
On the one hand they have kept their home market as a protected sanctuary, where they often garner superrich profits.

GM makes: Cadillac, Saab, Hummer, Corvette and Chevy SUVs.

Ford Japan: Mustang and SUVs.

Chrysler: PT Cruiser, Grand Voyager, 300C, 300C Touring

I would send you the link, but like their cars, the website is overweight and cumbersome, takes ages to load up each page.  They apparently only care about people who like fat cars and fat bandwidth.

Although in the ultra-chic parts of Tokyo you do see SUVs once in a while, and even (though very rarely) a hummer (which looks absolutely ridiculous on the streets of Tokyo), most Japanese don't go in for the sort of models that Detroit produces.

Zwackus has a better handle on the Japanese car market than I do, but that's my take on it.

Also, a friend of mine living in Japan points out:

Almost 3M small cars and 1.4M of the ultra small "Kei" cars that Detroit doesn`t even make. Those two categories are 3/4 of the total domestic market. The Big Three are focused on the small, high end market which is already crowded with European makers that have more prestige.

On the other hand, this does not address the issues of workers' benefits, especially to retirees, that Japanese makers do not have to pay, apparently, in their U.S. factories.  But I believe asdf makes a good reply to that point:

My understanding is that the labor cost in a car is only about 10% of the total. It's a capital intensive business, and Japan has pretty high labor costs just as does the U.S.

Having said all this, I still think bailing out GM may be the right thing to do to prevent 2-3 million jobs from vanishing, especially after listening to this:

The Big Three U.S. Auto Makers Head Back to Washington

But this all might be moot, as one month is not a lot of time to do this in.

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:11:16 AM EST
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Yes; all that, plus no one has mentioned that the Japanese do a lot of intervention to keep the value of the Yen down. With this, they can provide a lot of exports and capture a lot of American dollars. They, along with the Chinese have the bulk of foreign owned US Treasuries...though not as much as HomelandOwners do.

Also, America is a huge market with only a few competitors for the Japanese. They haven't gone into Europe as extensively, and couldn't, as the local market is so strong in most countries.

I also leaning toward protecting current jobs with FutureIncomeTaxesNOWTM. But...One just wonders, what lasting good will come of two months of pouring 8 billion into GM? What happens in February that they will suddenly be able to be on their feet and join rdf's dancing plan? The economy is not going to be magically triumphant after O'Bama's InauguralSpeechOfDestiny. There are still too many houses yet to go into foreclosure and too many companies who rely upon consumers...who just happen to be either out of money, or (gawds forbid) saving money...yes, Americans actually taking money out of the system by saving...a good thing in most regards, but a giant bad thing in an economy that needs their Spend-O-RamaSensation to keep the carousel spinning...in this case the car companies' carousel...which ain't gonna happen in February unless they use the 34 billion to buy everyone cars - no payments, no interest, pre-bought car, BankErrorInYourFavor - Free cars for everyone.

As for Detroit wages, I just can't believe that they are higher than in Bavaria, minus the health and welfare aspect, which is so poorly done in the heretofore non-socialist America.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:27:41 AM EST
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I can't exactly see the japanese car market as being numerically equivalent to the US one, even if I understand the precedent it creates.

However, all developing economies require protectionism : One of the defining qualities of "free trade" is that it prevents establshed economies from competitors due to their inherent strutural advantages.
Japan has simply retained a legacy flag carrier from a period of relative weakness. They may no longer need it, but it fulfills a cultural requirement.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:51:15 AM EST
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Helen: Japan has simply retained a legacy flag carrier from a period of relative weakness. They may no longer need it, but it fulfills a cultural requirement.

Japan eliminated import tariffs on all cars in 1978.

Then in 2002 it proposed to the WTO that all developed industrialized countries drop all tariffs on passenger cars, trucks and auto parts (on which it has no tariffs), but the European Union rejected the proposal.  (At the time the EU had tariffs of "around 10 percent on passenger vehicles, 22 percent on trucks and five percent on parts", according to this article.)

So tell me, what "cultural requirement" was the EU fulfilling by maintaining these tariffs despite the fact that Japan having none?  Was this an anticipation of the "cooperative protectionism" recently advocated for Europe by Emmanuel Todd?

And to repeat my question to Jerome above, how is Japan being protectionist in the automobile market?  (It may very well be, but I would like to understand exactly how, as there seems such an assure consensus on this claim.)

Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 07:15:54 AM EST
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Protectionism doesn't have to mean import taxes.

I've heard from various people that trying to sell foreign products in Japan can be unusually interesting. Regulations can make it very difficult to open stores, never mind local factories, and there's a certain background level of xenophobia and exceptionalism which means that Japanese buyers only take foreign products seriously if their brand is seen as having high status.

Just because it's an open market in theory doesn't mean that it's open in practice.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:20:59 AM EST
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Plus the government's continuous effort to keep the value of the yen way way down. When it goes up, just by a little bit, they lose exports by the beaucoup.

On the opposite side, imports are comparatively exceedingly high (than say, if the yen were at 2 to the dollar), which fits their market just fine.

Never underestimate their intelligence, always underestimate their knowledge.

Frank Delaney ~ Ireland

by siegestate (siegestate or beyondwarispeace.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:45:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Breaking The Bank: European Interest Rates Tumble - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International
The stark reduction, which was greater than most analysts had predicted, shows the the ECB is serious about fighting the financial crisis, which has plunged Europe into a recession. Lower interest rates tend to stimulate the economy by loosening credit markets and making borrowing cheaper. Ever since the New York investment bank Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy on Sept. 15, credit markets have been extremely reluctant to take on any additional risk, making it virtually impossible for many companies to secure loans.

Although most economists had predicted only a half-point cut from the ECB, not all were surprised that the central bankers decided to take such drastic action. "Given how weak the economic data has been, the rate cuts are not so surprising," said Rainer Sartoris, an economist at HSBC Trinkaus, in an interview with Reuters. "They needed to have rates come down more quickly than before."

Central banks in the UK and in Sweden announced even greater rate cuts, stealing some of the ECB's thunder. Rainer Guntermann, an economist at Dresdner Kleinwort told Reuters that the ECB's cut, although the greatest in its history, is less impressive when compared to the action taken in Stockholm and London. "They clearly have an even more dramatic assessment of global conditions," he said.

British central bankers cut their rate by a full percentage point to just two percent, leaving rates at their lowest levels since 1939.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:49:26 PM EST
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FT.com / Europe - Europe's banks slash rates

Interest rates were slashed on a historic scale across Europe on Thursday as central banks reacted aggressively to the sudden and brutal deterioration in the economic outlook since the autumn.

The European Central Bank announced a three-quarters of a percentage point cut in its main policy interest rate to 2.5% - its largest cut ever - just hours after Sweden's central bank surprised markets by reducing the country's official borrowing costs by a record 175 basis points. The Bank of England slashed its rates by another 1 percentage point to 2 per cent, equal to the lowest rate since the central bank was founded in 1694.

Even though none of the European central banks gave any encouragement to traders betting on further rate cuts, financial markets have already priced in another 0.5 percentage point reduction in the eurozone by February, and a fall to 1 per cent in the UK in the near future.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:06:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]
British central bankers cut their rate by a full percentage point to just two percent, leaving rates at their lowest levels since 1939.
It is likely that we have not seen such economic stress since 1939.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:35:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Asia Times Online :: China News, China Business News, Taiwan and Hong Kong News and Business.
TOKYO - China, faced with factory closures and slowing export growth as the global economy slows, is apparently prepared to weaken the value of its currency against the US dollar in defiance of a key policy goal of the United States, even as US Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson visits Beijing this week.

A weaker yuan, which would signal an about-turn by Beijing after three years of appreciation, will help to hold down prices of China's exports, raising the likelihood of further increases in its already contentiously high trade surplus with the US. At the same time, a lower yuan will make imports to China from the US more expensive at a time when American workers are fast losing jobs as factories there close on falling demand at home and abroad.


When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:25:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]
VOA News - China Urges US to Stabilize Its Own Economy
Chinese Vice Premier Wang Qishan opened the two-day Strategic Economic Dialogue by calling for the United States to stabilize its own economy.

Wang also urged Washington to protect Chinese investments in the United States.

The Chinese vice premier said China is willing to work with the United States on the most pressing issue - coping with the global financial turmoil.


When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:26:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is pressing for a stronger yuan at talks that started in Beijing today, just three days after the currency's biggest drop since the nation scrapped a fixed exchange rate in 2005.

"A spanner's been thrown into the works," said Dwyfor Evans, a strategist with State Street Global Markets in Hong Kong. "It may mean a more heated debate on the currency."

The fifth round of the Strategic Economic Dialogue between China and the U.S. is a swansong for Paulson, who initiated the talks and will exit with the Bush administration. The currency appreciation that he's applauded -- a 20 percent gain since the end of a peg to the dollar -- may be wound back as President Hu Jintao seeks to protect exporters from the global recession.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:27:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Even if Hu Jintao wants to protect Chinese exporters from collapsing US consumer demand by figuring out how to provide US consumers with some of the US $ denominated reserves which the Chinese hold, I doubt that even that would help.  Most would save the money if they could. Few in the USA will spend much on anything that  they don't absolutely have to have.  That is unlikely to change until they see solid reasons for optimism about their own personal situations.  

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:45:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]
look at the articles above that say that while retails sales are sharply down, Wal-Mart is doing just fine - presumably thanks to all its cheap Chinese products.

China's mercantilist policies can work as long as they are willing to finance US debt, and it seems they are. It won't solve the overall crisis, it will just mean that Americans still live above their (reduced) means, and the problem remain for later...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:02:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
But only as long as the rest of the world accepts either dollars or yuan for the raw materials that go into the Chinese manufacturing plant...

- Jake

640 kiloton should be enough for anybody

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:33:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Wal-Mart is the low cost retailer in the US and has relentlessly squeezed the cost out of their supply chain. China is the most important supplier of clothing, artificial Christmas Trees, low end hand tools, low end electronics, etc. and Wal-Mart sales are up 3% over last year.  But Wal-Mart also is also a major grocer and druggist in many states.  Where it sells groceries, it usually has the broadest selection in town, (usually small to medium sized towns--<50,000.)

Some of its increase may be due to grocery and drug sales to customers that previously shopped more up-scale shops.  Those stores, J.C.Penny, Macy's, etc have been hit hard, down double digits in many cases.  They also bought from China and are cutting back hard.    It will get much worse, and soon.  Unemployment is accelerating.  Can China live by Wal-Mart alone?

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.

by ARGeezer on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 11:47:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
China wealth fund lacks stomach for financial buys | Deals | Mergers & Acquisitions | Reuters

HONG KONG (Reuters) - China Investment Corp, the sovereign wealth fund that has incurred steep paper losses on its stakes in U.S. financial firms, said on Wednesday it is "not brave enough" to invest in foreign financial firms and lacks confidence in the shifting U.S. financial regulatory situation.

"It's changing every week. How can I be confident?," Lou Jiwei, chairman of CIC, said during the Clinton Global Initiative event in Hong Kong, referring to U.S. government efforts to rescue the devastated financial services sector.

He said the fund continued to make investments overseas, and was looking to diversify geographically to include emerging economies.

"We are still actively making investments outside, and we will continue our investments," he said during a panel discussion.

Lou made his remarks just ahead of talks scheduled in Beijing between U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Chinese officials in the fifth round of a so-called "strategic economic dialogue" that Paulson initiated in 2006.

Lou said the world should not look to China to resolve the financial crisis.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:28:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Freescale and NXP can't repay debts, says BNP Paribas

There is no way that Freescale and NXP can repay the debt which has been loaded on to them by their private equity owners, according to Jerome Ramel, of Exane BNP Paribas, talking this morning to the European Nanoelectronics Forum 2008 in Paris. "There is no way they can repay the debt they have", said Ramel.

The debt imposed on Freescale and NXP by their private equity owners, Blackstone and KKR, could not be repaid even if they are broken up and sold off piece-meal, said Ramel, so the only way forward for them is consolidation. "Refinancing will kill some businesses," Ramel told the Forum.

Asked by Electronics Weekly how Freescale and NXP would cope with the re-financings they will be obliged to undergo starting in 2011, Ramel replied: "Freescale was bought at 4 times sales, NXP at 1.6 times sales. The valuations were too high. The private equity companies thought there was something wrong about an industry which operated without any debt."


I have worked in the semiconductor industry for countless years; it has always been very cash intensive. Such a big amount of money attracted the attention of private equity who convinced Motorola and Philips to sell them their semiconductor branches. The new owners loaded their acquisitions with debt (this was the time when money was cheap), debt that is now compromising the very future of these companies. Oh yes, the PE guys and their bankers got their fees, thank you very much.

Europeans think a hundred miles is a long way. Americans think a hundred years is a long time.
by Bernard on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:07:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This is '70 redux.  I saw solid companies such as Altec Sound Company, heir to the work of the Bell Labs, fitted out with as much debt with which it could conceivably stagger forward  and "spun off" to stagnate and die by the conglomerate of Ling-Tempco-Vaught.  They could no longer even keep up, let alone lead in their field.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 09:57:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Alstom's problems just 5 years ago came from the fact that it was spun off by its previous owners (Alcatel and Marconi) without any cash on its balance sheet, as they kept it.

And big engineering companies need such cash to be able to survive glitches or downturns. In that case, Alstom was brought to its knees by problems on its new gas turbines (purchased from ABB with probably not enough due diligence, but that's another issue) which required it to pay massive penalties to clients.

With the cash, it would still have had the problems, but would have survived the episode.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:06:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]
WORLD

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:32:47 PM EST
Pakistan Won't Cooperate with India - WSJ.com

Upon her arrival in New Delhi this week, United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she expected the Pakistani regime to "cooperate fully and transparently" with India to try and bring the perpetrators of last week's terrorist outrage in Mumbai to justice. Ms. Rice's position -- though seemingly sensible -- is actually off the mark. The regime of President Asif Ali Zardari has no incentive whatsoever to cooperate with India to ensure that the terrorists who were responsible for the Mumbai attacks are actually apprehended.

Pakistan has pursued a successful strategy of asymmetric warfare through jihadists since the outbreak of an ethno-religious insurgency in Kashmir in 1989. Part of Islamabad's strategy is to appear cooperative. After members of two jihadi groups, Jaish-e-Mohammed and the Lashkar-e-Taiba, attacked the Indian parliament on Dec. 13, 2001, for instance, then-President Pervez Musharraf nominally banned both entities. He placed their leaders under house arrest and had many of the terror groups' members arrested. On Jan. 12, 2002, he declared he would not allow Pakistani territory to be used for acts of terror.

Thanks to persistent American prodding, the two sides embarked on a peace process in 2004. The two sides agreed on a cease-fire along the Line of Control, the de facto international border in Kashmir, expanded people-to-people contacts and loosened travel restrictions.

Yet even in those times of apparent peace, Pakistan did not wholly abandon the jihadi option.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:36:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
This needs to be tagged as an opinion piece, I think.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:16:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Terror Attacks Traced to Two From Pakistan - NYTimes.com

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- Fresh evidence unearthed Thursday by investigators in India indicated that the Mumbai attacks were stage-managed from at least two Pakistani cities by top leaders of the militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Indian and American intelligence officials have already identified a Lashkar operative, who goes by the name Yusuf Muzammil, as a mastermind of the attacks. On Thursday, Indian investigators named one of the most well-known senior figures in Lashkar, Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi.

The names of both men came from the interrogations of the one surviving attacker, Muhammad Ajmal Kasab, 21, according to police officials in Mumbai.

While Mr. Muzammil appears to have served as a control officer in Lahore, Pakistan, Mr. Lakhvi, his boss and the operational commander of Lashkar, worked from Karachi, a southern Pakistani port city, said investigators in Mumbai.

It now appears that both men were in contact with their charges as they sailed to Mumbai from Karachi, and then continued guiding the attacks even as they unfolded, directing the assaults and possibly providing information about the police and military response in India.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:36:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | Americas | Canada halts parliament amid row

Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has won a bid to suspend parliament, blocking an opposition attempt to topple his new government.

The governor general agreed to Mr Harper's request, unprecedented in the country, after talks.

If the request had been rejected, he would have had to step down or face a confidence vote he was sure to lose.

Opposition parties had called the vote for Monday, accusing the government of failing to shore up the economy.

Governor General Michaelle Jean agreed to prorogue - or suspend - parliament until 27 January when the government is set to present its budget.

Ms Jean - the representative of head of state Queen Elizabeth - has the right to make a final decision on such matters.



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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:39:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | Africa | Kenya PM calls for Mugabe removal

Power-sharing in Zimbabwe is dead and it is time for African governments to oust President Robert Mugabe, Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga has said.

His comments are some of the strongest by an African leader against Mr Mugabe, says the BBC's Karen Allen in Nairobi.

"It's time for African governments... to push him out of power," Mr Odinga said after talks with Zimbabwe's opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:40:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]
You'd need S Africa on board for that to have teeth, and even tho' Mbeki has gone, I suspect that his determined defence of Mugabe is a policy that will endure.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:19:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm not sure the shots are Mbeki's to call anymore. From the same article:

BBC NEWS | Africa | Kenya PM calls for Mugabe removal

The BBC's Karen Allen in Nairobi says the Kenyan prime minister had also held talks with Jacob Zuma, president of South Africa's governing African National Congress party.

Mr Zuma has declared a new alliance between his party and the Kenyan leader, designed to elevate the Zimbabwe issue, she says.

Mr Odinga said that if Mr Mugabe were isolated, he would have no choice but to quit.

"I do believe strongly that if the leadership in South Africa took a firm stand and told Mugabe to quit he will have no choice but to do so," the Kenyan PM said.

Mr Odinga was sure Mr Zuma, who is tipped to become president of South Africa next year, would have "no hesitation in taking that step".



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:32:33 AM EST
[ Parent ]
BBC NEWS | South Asia | 'Gunmen shot' at Delhi's airport

Six gunmen are reported to have been shot by Indian security forces at Delhi's main international airport, according to airport officials.

Security had been strengthened at several Indian airports after warnings had been received of possible attacks.



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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:43:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The story has been updated:

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Security scare at Delhi's airport

The BBC initially quoted an incorrect claim from an airport worker that six people had been shot and killed at Indira Gandhi International Airport.

But the Indian authorities have since denied that there was any shooting incident at the airport.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:18:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]
First, the heresy:
When the brain spends more time on technology-related tasks and less time exposed to other people, it drifts away from fundamental social skills like reading facial expressions during conversation, Small asserts.

So brain circuits involved in face-to-face contact can become weaker, he suggests. That may lead to social awkwardness, an inability to interpret nonverbal messages, isolation and less interest in traditional classroom learning.

Small says the effect is strongest in so-called digital natives -- people in their teens and 20s who have been "digitally hard-wired since toddlerhood."


Then, the figleaf:
Some research suggests the brain actually benefits from Internet use.

A large study led by Mizuko Ito of the University of California, Irvine, recently concluded that by hanging out online with friends -- sending instant messages, for example -- teens learn valuable skills they'll need to use at work and socially in the digital age. That includes lessons about issues like online privacy and what's appropriate to post and communicate on the internet, Ito said.


Now, there's real life skills.
By AP science, so you shouldn't be surprised

Grabbing what you can, as John Ruskin said, isn't any less wicked when you grab it with the power of your brains than with the power of your fists.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:05:30 AM EST
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That's basically a list of questions they'd like to study properly, as far as I can see.

Change is always bad. Well known fact.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:36:38 AM EST
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What was the title of that book about TV being bad for you you mentioned before? I lost the reference.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 02:39:44 AM EST
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Hospitals Now a Theater in Mexico's Drug War - NYTimes.com

TIJUANA, Mexico -- The sedated patient, his bullet wounds still fresh from a shootout the night before, was lying on a gurney in the intensive care unit of a prestigious private hospital here late last month with intravenous fluids dripping into his arm. Suddenly, steel-faced gunmen barged in and filled him with even more bullets. This time, he was dead for sure.

Hit men pursuing rivals into intensive care units and emergency rooms. Shootouts in lobbies and corridors. Doctors kidnapped and held for ransom, or threatened with death if a wounded gunman dies under their care. With alarming speed, Mexico's violent drug war is finding its way into the seeming sanctuary of the nation's hospitals, shaking the health care system and leaving workers fearing for their lives while trying to save the lives of others.

[...]

An explosion of violence connected with Mexico's powerful drug cartels has left more than 5,000 people dead so far this year, nearly twice the figure from the year before, according to unofficial tallies by Mexican newspapers. The border region of the United States and Mexico, critical to the cartels' trafficking operation, has been the most violent turf of all, with 60 percent of all killings in the country last month occurring in the states of Chihuahua and Baja California, the government says. And it has raised fears that violence could spill across the border, because dozens of victims of drug violence have been treated at an El Paso hospital in the last year.

The federal government argues that the rising death toll reflects President Felipe Calderón's aggressive stance toward the cartels, which has forced traffickers into a bitter war over the dwindling turf that remains.

In fact, most of the deaths do appear to be the result of infighting among traffickers. But plenty of innocent people are dying too, and the spate of horrifying killings -- bodies are routinely decapitated or otherwise mutilated and left in public places with handwritten notes propped up nearby -- has left people from all walks of life worried that they might be next.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:39:06 AM EST
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Interior Dept. Changes Rule to Remove Congress Veto - NYTimes.com

In another regulatory action in the waning days of the Bush administration, the Interior Department on Thursday unveiled a new rule that challenges Congress's authority to prevent mining planned on public lands.

Congress has emergency power to stop mineral development, and has used it six times in the last 32 years. The most recent was in June, when it put a three-year moratorium on uranium mining on one million acres near the Grand Canyon. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne has ignored that Congressional directive, saying it was procedurally flawed.

The new rule issued by the Interior Department's Bureau of Land Management comes as environmental groups are suing the bureau in federal court for failing to obey Congress's directive, which under a 1976 law can be invoked when "an emergency situation exists and extraordinary measures must be taken to preserve values that would otherwise be lost."

The revision of the rule eliminates all references to Congressional authority. The revision moved through the often-cumbersome rule-making process with lightning speed; it was proposed in October, and the public was given just 15 days to comment.

The rule seems intended to speed a judicial confrontation on the constitutionality of the 1976 law, and to underscore the Interior Department's determination to leave public land near Grand Canyon National Park in northern Arizona open for mineral development.

Words honestly fail me.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:43:30 AM EST
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explicitly promise to cancel such last minute executive decisions? I suppose the hard part is to spot all of them...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:09:15 AM EST
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My concern is that Interior can still grant an awful lot of leases between now and January 20, which would make the damage harder to undo.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 04:15:20 AM EST
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An unlawful lease is an unlawful lease. Presumably they can't start actually digging in less than a month, so all they have to do is yank the permissions and then wrangle with the courts over whether the corps get their money back or not (basically a question of whether they were acting in good faith or not - I vote that they shouldn't get it back). Right?

- Jake

640 kiloton should be enough for anybody

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 10:32:11 AM EST
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Colombia Reels After Investment Schemes; Scandal Has Riveted Residents, Shaken the Economy, Damaged Uribe's Standing - washingtonpost.com

BOGOTA, Colombia -- The pied piper was a gangly, long-haired entrepreneur whose remarkable success story seemed to augur well for those who invested in his get-rich scheme. David Murcia, 28, had gone from being a traveling salesman making $130 a month to living in a luxury high-rise, driving a Ferrari and forging ties with government officials.

Investigators now say Murcia ran a secretive, hydra-headed enterprise -- part pyramid scheme, part money-laundering business -- that provided investors with returns of up to 300 percent in just a few months. His company, DMG Group Holdings, along with 250 other pyramid schemes nationwide, attracted hundreds of thousands of working-class people starry-eyed with promises of an easy payday.

But DMG and the others -- including the now-infamous DRFE, whose initials stood for "Fast Money, Easy Cash" -- soon collapsed, and Murcia and his associates are in jail. The attorney general's office said that perhaps as many as 4 million people in a country of 44 million lost money, an estimated $1 billion in four hard-hit southern states alone.

The ensuing scandal has riveted this country, shaken the economy and damaged the so-called Teflon president -- Álvaro Uribe -- like nothing before. A weekend poll on Uribe's governance showed that 77 percent of Colombians surveyed in the country's south believe that things are going badly, and support for his reelection bid is wavering.



"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:45:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:33:13 PM EST
Scientists urge caution on global warming - Politico.com Print View
Climate change skeptics on Capitol Hill are quietly watching a growing accumulation of global cooling science and other findings that could signal that the science behind global warming may still be too shaky to warrant cap-and-trade legislation. 

While the new Obama administration promises aggressive, forward-thinking environmental policies, Weather Channel co-founder Joseph D'Aleo and other scientists are organizing lobbying efforts to take aim at the cap-and-trade bill that Democrats plan to unveil in January.

So far, members of Congress have not been keen to publicly back the global cooling theory. But both senators from Oklahoma, Republicans Tom Coburn and Jim Inhofe, have often expressed doubts about how much of a role man-made emissions play.

"We want the debate to be about science, not fear and hypocrisy. We hope next year's wave of new politics means a return to science," said Coburn aide John Hart. "It's the old kind of politics that doesn't consider any dissenting opinions."

The global cooling lobby's challenge is enormous. Next year could be the unfriendliest yet for climate skeptics. Already, House Energy and Commerce Chairman John Dingell (D-Mich.) has lost his gavel, in part because his peers felt he was less than serious about tackling global warming.


When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:55:14 PM EST
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Tracking 'The Gore Effect' - Erika Lovley - Politico.com
On Oct. 22, Gore's global warming speech at Harvard University coincided with near 125-year record-breaking low temperatures. And less than a week later, on Oct. 28, the British House of Commons held a marathon debate on global warming during London's first October snowfall since 1922.

While there's no scientific proof that The Gore Effect is anything more than a humorous coincidence, some climate skeptics say it may offer a snapshot of proof that the planet isn't warming as quickly as some climate change advocates say.

"You can't fool Mother Nature," said climate skeptic scientist and meteorologist Joseph D'Aleo. "We used to kid in forecasting that whenever we were very certain about a major forecast, it would wind up being so dead wrong that we'd be embarrassed. It certainly makes you think."


When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:58:32 PM EST
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nobody said the whole wolrd would get warmer, it was just that there would be more enrgy in weather systems, hotter and colder, wetter and drier whilst being windier and stormier generally. More extreme weathers.

I still think that what we're seeing is related to the el Nina and solar minimum combination that, if so, will bugger up next year as well.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:24:27 PM EST
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I would be more convinced were the polar ice caps expanding and glaciers growing and were so many of the "skeptics" not so obviously self interested.  There is evidence that increased particulate air pollution, especially at stratospheric levels, does have a cooling effect, but do we really want the atmosphere of the entire planet to look like that of Beijing one month prior to the Olympics?

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 10:19:46 PM EST
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Politico's journalistic malpractice | Gristmill: The environmental news blog | Grist

Today brings two of the most jaw-droppingly moronic stories I've ever seen, both in Politico, both written by Erika Lovley, who one can only assume is either the most dimwitted, gullible reporter in D.C. or ... um, I can't think of another explanation.

Remember those articles you'd see five years ago, "balanced" stories on global warming science quoting the same small group of deniers, citing the same debunked myths, and conspicuously failing to reference a single peer-reviewed scientific paper or reputable scientific organization? The ones you thought self-respecting media organizations had finally tired of running?

These are worse than that.



When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:59:56 PM EST
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Can we move these wankers to one of the islands that's due to be submerged soon and take away the boats and ask them again what they think?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:59:58 PM EST
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Think?

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:29:38 PM EST
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[wipes tea spray off screen}

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:25:37 PM EST
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Boy I hope Nomad shows up (and has time to put this in perspective).

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:20:41 AM EST
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Florida congresswoman, fearing spoof, hangs up on Obama

When President-elect Barack Obama called Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen at her South Florida district office Wednesday, she hung up on him.

'I thought: 'Why would Obama want to call a little slug on the planet like me?' '' Ros-Lehtinen said.

A short time later, Rahm Emanuel, Obama's designated chief of staff, called. Ros-Lehtinen hung up on him, too.

''I thought it was one of the radio stations in South Florida playing an incredible, elaborate, terrific prank on me,'' Ros-Lehtinen said. ``They got Fidel Castro to go along. They've gotten Hugo Chavez and others to fall for their tricks. I said, 'Oh, no, I won't be punked'.''

Ros-Lehtinen was in Miami when she received Obama's first call about 1 p.m. on her cell phone from a Chicago-based number. The person on the line told Ros-Lehtinen, a Republican, that the President-Elect would like to speak to her.

A man, who Ros-Lehtinen said sounded like Obama, got on the line and congratulated her on her reelection and said he was looking forward to working with her as the ranking Republican member of the House Foreign Affairs committee.

The conversation lasted just a minute when Ros-Lehtinen cut Obama off, telling him she wasn't falling for the hoax and that he was a better impersonator than the guy on Saturday Night Live.

Then Emanuel called, and she hung up on him. It finally took Rep. Howard Berman, chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee, to persuade Ros-Lehtinen that the president-elect indeed wanted to talk to her.

''I asked Howard to tell me a private joke we share about colleagues in the House to make sure it really was him,'' Ros-Lehtinen said. ``When he did, I realized it was the real deal.''

Now if Congress were only as skeptical when the blood and treasure of the nation are on the line.

If sanity be culturally normative, then by the norms of this culture I claim insanity.
by ARGeezer on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:06:00 PM EST
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Ros-Lehtinen:

'Why would Obama [and Emanuel!] want to call a little slug on the planet like me?'

Gee, could it be her legislative initiative?

H.Res 154, expressing concerns about the involvement of the Russian Government in Mr. Litvinenko's death and the security and proliferation of radioactive materials;

H.Res 125, expressing concern over Hezbollah's tactic of embedding its forces among civilians to use them as human shields during the summer of 2006 conflict between Hezbollah and the State of Israel;

H.R.2332, strengthening sanctions against the Government of Syria, to enhance multilateral commitment to address the Government of Syria's threatening policies, to establish a program to support a transition to a democratically-elected government in Syria;

H.Res 897, recognizing the strategic importance of the African continent and welcoming the establishment of AFRICOM;

H.R.1357, requiring divestiture of current investments in Iran, to prohibit future investments in Iran, and to require disclosure to investors of information relating to such investments;

and so on and so forth.


Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 01:51:49 AM EST
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BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | 'Solar taxi' goes round the world

A solar-powered car has arrived at the UN climate change talks in the Polish city of Poznan after a round-the-world trip covering almost 40 countries.

At the wheel of the "solar taxi" was Swiss teacher Louis Palmer who made the 52,000km (32,000 mile) 17-month trip.

He said the feat proved solar power was a viable alternative to oil-based fuels and could help fight global warming.

But he said the prototype would need serious modification before it could be mass produced.

The small blue-and-white three-wheeler tows a trailer packed with batteries charged by the sun. It can travel for 300km on a single charge and reach speeds of 90km/h (55mph).

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 12:07:22 AM EST
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'Hitler was the perfect boss': Former maid breaks her silence on the 'charming' dictator | Mail Online

... 'He was a charming man, someone who was only ever nice to me, a great boss to work for. You can say what you like, but he was a good man to us.'

Rosa's remembrances of life at the court of the tyrant make gripping reading. She saw leading Nazis come and go. Himmler, the evil party secretary; Bormann, whom she described as a 'dirty pig'; and the club-footed, sexually-obsessed propaganda minister Goebbels.

Rosa went into Hitler's service at the age of 15 in 1932 when she was Rosa Krautenbacher. Her sister Anni had worked as a cook at Hitler's Berchtesgaden retreat since the late 1920s.

'She said he needed a housemaid and I would fit the bill,' Rosa recalled. 'I remember so clearly the first day I spoke to him in the kitchen. I said I was Anni's sister and that made him smile, because Anni was his favourite. I only ever knew Hitler as a kindly man who was good to me.'



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 07:59:34 AM EST
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KLATSCH

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 03:33:35 PM EST
I'm not sure anyone paid attention to my post in yesterday's thread, I was a bit late.

Here it was:


I have an idea of a new feature for ET, or rather a new accessory: we have the plug-in, but could we also have the widget ?

I'm thinking google widget, here some bit of code that would keep tabs on ET (or any SCOOP engine ?) from the google dashboard home page. And may be someone would actually like doing more good work for ET... unless I'm the only selfish google widget user around.

Personally, I could use two features in a widget, may be in two tabs:

    * watch "recent comments" page a bit like the rss reader widget, with bodies popping up when clicking on listed titles
    * check "replies (trees) to my comments", in a tree view (meaning, (new) reply titles are clustered by least-common-ancestor-owner's-comment)

First thing before looking into the details, would be to count how many ET users are also google widget users and would be interested.

Pierre

by Pierre on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 04:05:06 PM EST
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I didn't ignore the comment on the other thread, I just don't really know what you're referring to. Sorry, I'm a bit of an un-techie.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:28:29 PM EST
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Have you got a gmail account ?

Pierre
by Pierre on Thu Dec 4th, 2008 at 05:35:20 PM EST
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Yes, but I've never used it.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:37:47 AM EST
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e-mail it to me at pierre dot guerrier @robase gmail
I'll share a few widgets with you, if you accept these, it should set up your google widget page automatically (provided you remember your gmail account password...)

Pierre
by Pierre on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:16:00 AM EST
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The wife and I are off to Antwerp this afternoon for the weekend (this being my birthday present to her).

See you all on Monday!

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 03:47:44 AM EST
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Have fun

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 06:36:45 AM EST
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IDF preparing options for Iran strike | Iran news | Jerusalem Post

While its preference is to coordinate with the US, defense officials have said Israel is preparing a wide range of options for such an operation.

"It is always better to coordinate," one top Defense Ministry official explained last week. "But we are also preparing options that do not include coordination."

Israeli officials have said it would be difficult, but not impossible, to launch a strike against Iran without receiving codes from the US Air Force, which controls Iraqi airspace. Israel also asked for the codes in 1991 during the First Gulf War, but the US refused.

<...>

On Monday, Teheran dismissed the possibility of an Israeli strike, saying it didn't take Israel seriously.

"We think that regional and international developments and the complicated situation faced by Israel itself will not allow it to launch military strikes against other countries," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Hassan Qashqavi told reporters in Teheran, according to the Press TV Web site. "Israel makes threats to promote its psychological and media warfare," he said.



Truth unfolds in time through a communal process.
by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 07:51:04 AM EST
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To be honest, you'd expect military authorities to plan "what if..?" scenarios. There are certain situations where you'd think the authorities were abdicating their repsonsibilities if they ddin't do such planning.

So the questions that result are;-

"Is Israel likely to be planning some raid on Iran? "
Ans : Almost certainly

"Is Israel likely to carry out such a raid on Iran ?"
Ans : Within any form of predictive geo-political likelihood, almost certainly not.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:07:24 AM EST
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how do I record a webcast ??

There's one at 14:00 and I'd like to be able to reference back for notes.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:08:42 AM EST
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It's not easy to answer. There are many webcast technologies. Many are designed to prevent recording.
VideoLAN Client (www.videolan.org) is capable of circumventing many schemes and capturing many formats, but it's real geeky stuff. Probably too late for you.

Pierre
by Pierre on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:17:47 AM EST
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Hmm, can't see anything there about recording streams. It's seems to be about generating streaming, which I don't need.

but thanks you for the suggestion

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 08:23:05 AM EST
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See for instance:

http://exertia.wordpress.com/2006/05/03/capture-streaming-video-for-free-using-videolan/

but it's really dodgy: usually, you need to try a few different switches and toggles to get your capture in a format that replays nicely, so it better be tried in advance on another webcast from the same publisher...

Pierre

by Pierre on Fri Dec 5th, 2008 at 09:18:45 AM EST
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