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All white this morning. Just a day's snow so the kids can have fun.

Not I of course, I don't have fun in the snow, oh no.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 11:32:30 AM EST
No photos of you not having fun in the snow?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 11:48:55 AM EST
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Only not photos. Obviously.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:07:56 PM EST
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I've been out dog walking in the park in gorgeous sunshine and bitter cold wind. I have lots of photos but I'm only home briefly to get stuff for my week in London so they will be posted another time.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:10:21 PM EST
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The snow from last week is gone, though it has turned cold again - 3°C, it was an absolutely georgeous sunny day and it looks like it will stay this way.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 11:51:07 AM EST
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I've bitched endlessly about the "worse than Siberia" weather in Chicago, but there is no snow in St.L, and I am a little sad about it.  There should be snow for Christmas.  It's part of the package, right?

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:07:35 PM EST
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I read there was plenty in Chicago. Planes slithering about at O'Hare, etc.

It's practically all gone here. Just a nice white morning.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:10:35 PM EST
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Oh, you wrote the O'Hare story below... :-)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:14:17 PM EST
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Hey!   We ordered 60 degree weather for you to thaw out in - you can't have everything.  
by Maryb2004 on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:31:19 PM EST
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My weather is terrible.  Your's is just creepy.  It's warm!  WTF?

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.
by poemless on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 10:58:47 PM EST
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Having grown up in a place where it last snowed (briefly) in the '70s, I'm not ashamed to admit I immediately turn into a five year old when it snows.  First real snow in Notts, I woke up around 3.30AM, just after the storm had ended, and walked a pretty huge chunk of the city, just looking around in awe.  Probably a solid ten miles or so.  

Love it.  Hope we get at least one good snowstorm in NoVa this year.  Seems like everybody's had snow but us.  As far down as New Orleans apparently, all the way up to Atlanta and Charlotte, stopping before NoVa, and then more snow in the Northeast.  Total crap.  Even parts of Los Angeles got it.  Vegas got it.  Just wrong.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 10:27:26 PM EST
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Hello from Oslo, currently about minus 6 degrees. Freezing fog made the trees in the suburbs where we are staying quite beautiful.

Back to Scotland tomorrow night. Since the private jet's being serviced it will have to be Ryanair instead...

...groan...

...we were two kilograms over on the way here and got hit with £12.00 per kilo. It's about to go up again to £15.00...

...dunno whether to laugh or cry....

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 11:35:32 AM EST
you have my sympathy. I hate, really hate, flying ryanair.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 11:44:33 AM EST
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I hate flying with them, and the whole finding an office to pay some extra fees ryanair experience. The whole experience from entering the airport to arriving at the far end seems designed to irritate me at every step of the process.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 11:50:53 AM EST
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Hmmm, I was once stranded overnight at Pisa airport due to a flight that was cancelled last minute (it is a really awful airport to be stuck in) and ryanair did not leave a single member of their staff around to deal with queries, and no airport staff seemed to be about either.  And we never got any compensation.

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:50:55 PM EST
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Dull. Cloudy. Cold. Britain.

Watching Madagascar (cartoon) on TV.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 11:48:13 AM EST
ah the Penguins!

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 11:51:17 AM EST
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???
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:01:10 PM EST
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in Madagascar, one of the groups is a group of Militaristic penguins, their incongruity always make me laugh more than the main characters.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:07:59 PM EST
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Is it this cartoon you are talkin about?

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 02:32:46 PM EST
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that's the beastie, yes.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 02:51:04 PM EST
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Yep.  Normally I can't stand those kinds of movies, but Madagascar was cute.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:01:44 PM EST
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Conservative nutcase Davd Prager is single, ladies.  Line up.  After all, who could resist an endless future of marital rape?

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:03:35 PM EST
Dennis Prager, not David, but whatever.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:04:02 PM EST
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Jesus! having read that i) im not surprised ii) I am surprised in that his  knowledge of women appears entirely theoretical, not based on any real women that I have ever encountered

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:13:07 PM EST
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Makes his two divorces understandable, though.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:18:31 PM EST
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but hardly the two marriages.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:21:21 PM EST
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How any of them wind up married is beyond my capacity for understanding, quite honestly.  They all wind up divorced.

Except Romney.  That still cracks me up.  Only top-tier candidate on the GOP side to be married only once was the Mormon.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:24:48 PM EST
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I thought for Mormons the first wife was just the opening bid.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:30:43 PM EST
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First, women need to recognize how a man understands a wife's refusal to have sex with him: A husband knows that his wife loves him first and foremost by her willingness to give her body to him.

Words fail me...

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:45:57 PM EST
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I wouldn't be surprised to discover that many of the guys I've met over the years thought like that.

It's not a long way from certain radfem writings I've seen either.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:02:45 PM EST
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Well, after a barrage of snowstorms cancelled 500 flights out of Chicago and the trains to St. Louis, I was convinced I would not be home for Christmas.  But there was a break in the weather just as my train was leaving and I got in just fine.  Wed. night we had a party & dinner here with my step-parents & my step mom's family.  Italian beef, chicken croquettes, stuffed mushrooms, bruschetta, salad, dozens of appetizers, peppermint ice-cream pie, red velvet cake and pumpkin tarts with lots of wine and vodka.

When her family started busting out racist stuff about Obama I excused myself to wrap presents and have a cry.  Things improved after my step-dad got home from church.  The whole thing was really strange, because my brother-in-law is Muslim, from Pakistan, and I'm sure they'd never have made a racist Muslim joke in front of him.  But since there were no black people in the room I guess they thought it was ok or something.  

Brother-in-law's first Christmas, btw.  He seemed to like it.

Christmas morning was champagne brunch at my aunt's.  Huge Sicilian family and all the extended family and friends of the family.  I've never counted, but they say about 70 people show up each year.  They make eggs to order, and have Italian sausage, ham, biscuits and gravy, potatoes, and dozens of baked goods.  Plus an endless supply of champagne of course.  And trifle.  Yack!

Christmas dinner with my immediate family (roughly 18 people with all the step-kids) at my sister's, where we opened presents.  
Menu:
Christmas Caipiranhas - Excellent!!
Chile-Roasted Almonds - Eh.
Piquillo Pepper Cheese Crostini - De-lish.
Roasted Butternut Squash & Apple Salad - Lovely.
Standing Rib Roast, Spinach-Porcini Stuffing, Irish Whisky Gravy, & Horseradish Cream - Perhaps the best thing I have ever eaten.  No point in continuing to live, really.
Potato-Mushroom Gratin with Truffles - Unless this was the best thing I've ever eaten.  Can't decide.
Cheddar & Chive Yorkshire Puddings - Good.
Sherry Vinegar- & Molasses-Glazed Carrots - Fine.
Broccolini  with Pecan Brown Butter - Yummy!
Chocolate-Coffee Gingerbread with Hazelnut Poached Pears - She left out that fact that the cake was in the shape of a cathedral.  Amazingly amazing.

And my brother is studying to be a sommolier, so all kinds of mad and fabulous pairings were going on.

And my 4 nieces are feral.  In an adorable way.

Today I think we are going into the city (St. Louis) to see some exhibit at the art museum (Pollock, de Kooning) and go to this movie theater where you sit on a couch and drink cocktails while you watch your movie (Frost-Nixon).  Then tonight, my cousin has rented the upstairs of a martini bar and invited everyone she knows, inlcuding all of our high school graduating class (we were in the same class) for a party. Gah!  

I hear there is an ice-storm in Chi-town.  

Hope you all had a nice holiday.

I'm going to go die now.  :)

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:04:32 PM EST
Oh, and best present I got:  fair trade organic coffee, the proceedes from which go to an organization that advocates for the rights of sex workers.

I love the liberals in my family! :)

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:17:58 PM EST
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Ha, I'd wish you a merry xmas, but i think you got that totally sorted. Keep on having a good time

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:29:10 PM EST
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I'll be interested in what you think of the exhibit.  It had a lot of ... non-art ... in it.  A lot about the art critics.  

Have fun at the Moolah - we're going to a movie today too but I don't think we're going to that theater.

by Maryb2004 on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:34:05 PM EST
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Lol!  Did a lively family debate erupt after that excursion!  "That's not art!"  "That's not the point!"

There was actually very little Pollock amd de Kooning in it, which I suppose was for the best, because really, how much of it do you need/want to see?   I did like the archival stuff a lot.  And actually was not aware of the whole action/abstraction debate.  I am a junkie for that stuff, but understand that most people who go to an art museum are expecting to look at specimens, not read source material.  The rest of the art was eh.  I loathe Rothko with a passion.  But I liked the Gorky, Haussman (sp?) stuff a lot.  My favorite part was the Jackson Pollock jigsaw puzzle.  I want one! Overall, I give the exhibit a 6 out of 10.  

The Moolah was not as cool as I expected, but Frost/Nixon was fantastic!  And there is something to be said for having a drink with your film.  But the set up, logistically, was totally warped.  You're practically lying down, and the screen is tilted at a significal angle AWAY from you.  Bizarre.

Then we ate at Chez Leon and now I feel like a big fat cow.  

Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 10:41:30 PM EST
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Someone lied to me and told my Chez Leon had closed.  I'm so excited to hear they were wrong.  I can't remember who told me that.

I liked the room that had the women and african-american artists - you know, the people who were ignored by the critics during that time.  ;)

I thought the archival stuff was interesting but I was somewhat taken aback by how much there was.  But learning about the action/abstraction debate did add something - this is not by any stretch of the imagination my favorite style of art so anything that adds to the experience is welcome.

I wondered what you'd think of the Moolah.  I like the concept but I don't find it that comfortable either.  Plus I've gotten there a number of times to find that the couches are all taken - and sitting in the back in regular movie seats isn't much fun.  I've never sat in the balcony.

by Maryb2004 on Sat Dec 27th, 2008 at 12:04:30 AM EST
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I hope the Christmas Caipiranhas didn't eat you alive...

"Ce qui vient au monde pour ne rien troubler ne mérite ni égards ni patience." René Char
by Melanchthon on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 02:12:29 PM EST
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For those who've not seen this yet:



Come, my friends, 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world.

by poemless on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:21:20 PM EST
The 2012 primaries are going to be so awesome.  And no snark to that.  I mean it: Awesome.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:26:46 PM EST
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Yes, Entertainment Warp factor 9 I think. although with the tradmed rolling over to let her rub its tummy I don't think it'll be quite the laugh fest you iamgine. If history repeats itself, it may be farce first and tragedy second.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:29:13 PM EST
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Op-Ed Columnist - Paul Krugman Blog - NYTimes.com
This looks like events repeating themselves, the first time as tragedy, the second time as another tragedy.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:45:25 PM EST
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The blog in question isn't on topic, I just had to get that quote in.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:45:50 PM EST
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I can't see what the trgedy was in Palin's first appearance. Touted as the saviour of the McCain campaign, she first destroyed its credibility and unique selling point and then, by going awol, she rendered it a laughing stock. That was farce.

But next time, with sufficient planning, she might just get enough good press and teevee to rack it up. That would be tragedy.

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:52:35 PM EST
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Nah, don't think so.  I'm telling you, Palin scared the hell out of everyone only until everyone realized she was so completely batshit insane and so completely out of her league that she dealt a probably-fatal blown to her credibility (with Tina Fey's help of course).  I also don't think Palin would make it through the primaries without being destroyed.  Especially with Mittens in the race, it'll be nasty.  And, while I don't think either Bobby the Exorcist or Mikemoud Huckmadinejad will run, their campaigns would only make it even more awesome.

The Republican primaries will be broadcast from another planet.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.

by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 02:51:27 PM EST
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another planet to the other planet they're normally transmitted from?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 06:32:32 PM EST
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Oh, ceebs, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 06:41:47 PM EST
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Oh No?

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 07:59:41 PM EST
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A Real Man Does Provide Care' | IPS | 25 Dec 2008

A group of seven men is working as home-based caregivers with the Siyakhanyisa HIV/AIDS support group in Qumbu, 60 kilometres outside of Mthatha, to make a positive contribution to the welfare of their community. Initially ridiculed for doing work traditionally reserved for women, they have quickly become role models and earned respect for their courage to do things differently and take responsibility for the goings-on in their villages.

The men decided to get actively involved in helping others after they learnt about gender stereotypes, understandings of manhood and fatherhood during workshops run by NGO Sonke Gender Justice earlier this year. They now care for people living with HIV, bathe the bedridden, counsel, educate about HIV prevention and transmission, facilitate access to anti-retroviral treatment, refer patients to social services and assist sick persons in writing their will. ...

Over time, those who used to ridicule him have taken note of the positive impact of his work and started to show him respect. "People's attitudes are changing. I get recognition from the school principal, the chief of my area and many men and women in my community," said Qathula. "Being able to help people makes me proud and that's what keeps me going."




Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:54:32 PM EST
Earthworks Urban Farm | Detroit, MI | est'd. 1997
The urban prairie | Crains | August 2008

On the forefront of the urban farming movement in Detroit is the Garden Resource Program Collaborative, which is an umbrella organization for the Greening of Detroit, Capuchin Soup Kitchen Earthworks Urban Farm (www.cskdetroit.org), Michigan State University and the Detroit Agriculture Network (www.detroitagriculture.org). Coming on board is Southfield-based Urban Farming, which has a partnership with Wayne County to farm 20 of the county's foreclosed properties.

Ashley Atkinson, director of urban agriculture and product development for the Greening of Detroit, estimated that 27 percent of the city is vacant land. The collaborative, which has been keeping detailed records for five years, includes 320 family and 170 community gardens for a total of 80 acres. "We have a high return rate, meaning people who get into farming here stay around," she said.

The collaborative, formed in 2003, grows 41 different fruits and vegetables, and has extended its season into the fall so there are multiple harvests. The yield, which last year totaled 120 tons, is sold at farmers' markets and to restaurants and food banks, but the majority ends up on family tables, she said. Many of the volunteers live near the farms they work on.

"We have the first opportunity for our city to be food-sufficient. We're getting there, and it's exciting to be part of that. The rest of the country is coming awake to the fact that food of the future needs to be local and grown in urban areas, where most of the people are," Atkinson said.

In November 2007, the Wayne County treasurer's office entered into an agreement with Urban Farming to use 20 tax-foreclosed vacant properties to grow produce that would be free to neighborhood residents and local food banks. The gardens were planted in May.




Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 12:55:31 PM EST
Brilliant. I'd love to be involved in something like that.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:00:44 PM EST
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Me, too. I dabbled in NYC until the golum was elected "America's Mayor," then proceed methodically to seize (informal but long est'd) cgs for RE developers.

I figure, identifying property for cg in London-metro has to be as complicated, whither council advocacy. Is it?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:16:35 PM EST
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All land is owned by someone or other. The likelihood of any of it being released is quite low. however, outside of the south east of england there are some innovative schemes. However, these rely on sympathetic local councils which are not found in the more conservative SE.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:22:48 PM EST
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"All land is owned by someone or other."

mmm, quite, trenchant.

I was looking for a link to a book abstract re: land use and "freehold" distribution in England. Can't even remember the author's name at the moment, and that's a pity. I've been meaning to buy it. I left the UK with the very strong impression that data is a closely guarded secret. A general knowledge that 7% of the land mass supports the population is reason enough to support the "leasehold" trade on offer by aristocrats and "landed gentry." Breaking up these estates is a formidable task. The US market by comparison is extremely fragmented.

Consequently, I'm skeptical of "lease to own" scheming like Dean Baker's been promoting, as economic benefits of such instruments obviously haven't served the majority of Britain. Better he should investigate and endorse co-housing opportunities -- particularly residential re-hab and commercial RE conversions.

Household CLT strategies (identified by the Lincoln surveys) seem to trend to opportunistic acquisitions, which is prudent. An unabated deflation spiral favors the organizational horizon and capital hurdles such groups face (2 - 5 yrs).

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 03:28:53 PM EST
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I left the UK with the very strong impression that data is a closely guarded secret.

To a certain extent, yes. But you can look up who owns what anywhere at the UK Land Registry:

http://www.landregisteronline.gov.uk/

by yacker on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 05:11:41 PM EST
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Our service is currently unavailable. Operating hours are between 7 am and 12 midnight, Monday to Saturday (excluding bank holidays).

Masters of understatement ;) IIRC, the owner of the flat I rented was an LTD sheltered on the Isle of Man. Ha.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 06:55:10 PM EST
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It must have been Kevin Cahill's book

Who Owns Britain?

Check out his web-site....

Who owns Britain - the website

This is relevant....

Landowners reveal all

...but I'll believe it when I see it.

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 05:14:12 PM EST
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Yes!! Thanks :)

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.
by Cat on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 06:11:34 PM EST
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I've got a copy if anyone needs anything looking up in it. (this of course relies on me finding it amongst the boxes)

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 06:30:12 PM EST
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Oho, I'm thinking GBP 48 (USD 70) is rich for an outlander such as myself, this detail is hilarious ...

But the task is enormous as 40 per cent of land in England and Wales has not been registered by its owners. More than half of all rural land and rural buildings are unregistered. ...

Mr Collis says landowners need to weigh up the perceived threat to privacy or a possible challenge to title against the greater advantages of registration. "Once the land is registered, it means the title is guaranteed and the land is legally protected. Having all land registered will bring a comprehensive database to the property market that benefits everyone." ...

It reminds me of correspondence with the American Bar Association National Registry, a database intended to make public disciplinary actions of all attorneys in the US and territories. Participation is entirely voluntary, of course.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 07:07:23 PM EST
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Apply a land value tax. That would soon get things sorted out.

And double the rate for any beneficial owner who uses a trust or corporate vehicle to register the land.

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Dec 27th, 2008 at 04:29:34 AM EST
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From the above book, you only need to actually register it when it changes hands, apart from that its entirely voluntary.  The major landholders have owned lands since the middle ages and that has never been registered with anyone....

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Dec 27th, 2008 at 09:16:30 AM EST
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No Foreclosures Here | Yes! | Winter 2009

DSNI's eminent domain proposal targeted the center of the Dudley neighborhood--a 64-acre triangular section with 30 acres of vacant land, nicknamed the "Bermuda Triangle." About half of this land was city-owned, but scattered throughout were 181 private vacant lots, many held by tax-delinquent absentee owners. Acquiring private lots one by one would have been a complex and piecemeal ordeal. Eminent domain gave DSNI the chance to pursue a coherent plan for the area that would meet community needs.

Dudley's approach turned the long-abused power of eminent domain into a tool for development without displacement. Eminent domain applied only to vacant land: No one lost their home or business in the process. DSNI worked with residents who owned vacant land in the Triangle and wanted to develop their lots as homes or gardens, for example.

And the strategy placed control over vacant Triangle land in the hands of a community land trust, Dudley Neighbors, Inc., to institutionalize resident control over the land and its development, and ensure that housing created is not only affordable to the first buyers but future homeowners.

How It Works
In a community land trust, families purchase homes but a nonprofit organization owns the land. This approach "protects affordability in perpetuity," says May Louie, DSNI director of capacity building.

In the Dudley Neighbors land trust, homebuyers receive a 99-year renewable and inheritable lease for use of the land. They agree that all future sales will be made to a low- or moderate-income buyer and follow a resale formula at a price that allows them to recoup the cost of home improvements and benefit from modest price appreciation.

Community Land Trusts and Housing | City-CLT Partnership | June 2008

Community land trusts allow residents to purchase homes but not the land the housing sits on, which has the effect of reducing the price. Buyers agree to restrictions on resale. Historically most CLTs have been non-profit entities that have made long-term leasing arrangements without government assistance, but increasingly cities and counties have actively guided and sponsored their development. There are approximately 220 CLTs nationwide today; more information on CLTs is in this Lincoln Institute survey.

"Community land trusts are attractive for those promoting homeownership for lower-income families, and they are an efficient use of public funds for affordable housing," said Roz Greenstein, senior fellow and chair of the Department of Economic and Community Development at the Lincoln Institute. "The control on resale means that affordability lasts for generations, after a single initial investment. And administrative responsibilities lie with the CLT, not the city, to be stewards of this housing."

"A National Study of Community Land Trusts," 2007 (pdf)
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Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 01:06:33 PM EST
oh, dear. pdf, verified.

The 2007 "study" is actually a census and doesn't offer any useful financial commentary. The section on resale formulary is however fascinating.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by Cat on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 02:19:10 PM EST
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Normally, this sort of deviancy stays in the family, but your PALINISM provoked me.  

I caught Santa on my rooftop
And I still know how to shoot
We'll partake
Of Reindeer Steak
And a whole sled-load of loot

by greatferm (greatferm-at-email.com) on Fri Dec 26th, 2008 at 10:43:07 PM EST
Have to say I've been pretty underwhelmed by Sydney's museums so far. Then again I should probably be sitting at the beach instead anyway.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Dec 27th, 2008 at 07:54:22 AM EST
I can understand that. Australia's museum culture is a bit confused. There's some good basic history to pick up, but beyond that, they aren't really sure why they are there...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sat Dec 27th, 2008 at 08:59:16 AM EST
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stll shocked that there is such a thing as an Australian Culture museum ;-)

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
by ceebs (ceebs (at) eurotrib (dot) com) on Sat Dec 27th, 2008 at 09:19:12 AM EST
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Well, you know they have a philosophy dept.



keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Sat Dec 27th, 2008 at 09:51:26 AM EST
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I can understand why and I don't think it's a strike against them, but I would think Sydney could at least put together a decent modern art museum.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Sat Dec 27th, 2008 at 09:26:04 PM EST
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