European Salon de News, Discussion et Klatsch - 10. January

by Fran
Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:48:02 PM EST

On this date in history:

1858 - Birth of Heinrich Zille, a German illustrator and photographer. He became best known for his (often funny) drawings, catching the characteristics of people, especially "stereotypes", mainly from Berlin and many of them published in the German weekly satirical newspaper Simplicissimus. (d. 1929)

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:48:28 PM EST
German Government Takes Large Stake in Commerzbank | Business | Deutsche Welle | 09.01.2009
The German government has agreed to take a 25-percent share in Commerzbank. The move signals the first time the government has taken a stake in a major private bank and comes as Commerzbank is set to buy Dresdner Bank.

Commerzbank, Germany's second largest bank, is to be recapitalized again as the state takes a 25-percent-plus-one-share stake in return for 10 billion euros ($13.6 billion) in fresh funds. 

 

The capital comes on top of the 8.2 billion euros that SoFFin, the state rescue fund for the banking sector, already granted Commerzbank in November. SoFFin will pay 6.0 euros per share.

 

According to a statement from Commerzbank, the German government "is clarifying all further details with the EU Commission."

 

Analysts say Commerzbank requires the additional cash as it moves to acquire another struggling bank, Dresdner Bank, from insurance giant Allianz at the end of January.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:52:34 PM EST
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EUobserver

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicholas Sarkozy have warned the US not to block attempts to build an international financial regulator, calling for a new economic body similar to the UN's Security Council.

"I've always in my political life been a supporter of a close alliance with the United States but let's be clear: in the 21st century, a single nation can no longer say what we must do or what we must think," said Mr Sarkozy at an international symposium in Paris on Thursday (8 January), shortly before US president-elect Barack Obama enters office.

Mr Sarkozy and Ms Merkel say capitalism needs new global oversight

The French leader had originally called the Paris meeting - "New World, New Capitalism" - a global "summit," but limited his ambitions after few international leaders deigned to attend.

"We'll take our decisions on 2 April in London," he went on, referring to an upcoming meeting of the G20. "Perhaps the United States will join us in this change."



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:53:27 PM EST
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I think the US repsonse depends on what happens in the next 2 months. summers particularly will not want the sort of oversight that will come out of europe, but he may find his hand forced by circumstance.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 04:31:33 PM EST
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Obama's new regulatory guy -- can't remember his name, but TPM wrote on it the other day -- is apparently a pretty good progressive hardass when it comes to rebuilding the regulatory regime and putting new regulations in place.

I don't think Sarko's being as bold as he'd like to come off here (shocking, I know).

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

by Drew J Jones (blahblahblah@blahblahblah.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 06:21:06 PM EST
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Sunstein's other half | Madam Secretary
Obama has offered Harvard law professor and author Cass Sunstein the job of running the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. Having Sunstein, a close Obama friend, in the position suggests that Obama is keen to overhaul the regulatory system. In Obama's speech today on his stimulus package, he had nothing but bad things to say about past regulatory efforts.

Foreign Policy has just bought half of the American IR blogosphere...

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 06:41:12 PM EST
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what's that?

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 08:48:08 AM EST
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In this context, international relations. They've got Daniel Drezner, Laura Rosen, and Marc Lynch now.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 12:51:32 PM EST
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EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The Czech EU presidency is to begin the complicated task of providing the legal guarantees for the political concessions that Ireland has received on the rejected Lisbon Treaty.

Work will soon begin between Irish lawyers, the legal services of the Council (representing member states) and the European Commission, to firm up EU promises to that the treaty will not affect Irish neutrality, abortion or tax laws.

The Lisbon treaty was signed in 2007, but ratification is proving harder

Europe ministers meeting in Prague on Thursday (8 January) had a brief discussion on how to proceed with the pending EU charter, which Ireland rejected in a referendum last June.

Irish Europe minister Dick Roche used the gathering to stress the importance of putting the concessions in legally watertight language.

He also told counterparts that reflections about when to hold a referendum on the treaty - an issue of burning interest to other member states - were well advanced, an EU diplomat said.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:55:43 PM EST
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they would be best to wait for a referendum till after a change of govt. I agree with the views that it will simply be used as a protest vote against the current Irish administration, which is no use whatsoever.

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 04:32:54 PM EST
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No government should be allowed to call a referendum unless it includes an entirely separate confidence vote on the same ballot.
by det on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 05:35:01 AM EST
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In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 08:48:38 AM EST
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A good idea, but with the result that only popular governments will dare call a referendum. Thus, something like the Lisbon Treaty will just sit and sit, with the Irish government (for example) not daring to put it to referendum (because it would lose the confidence vote) but unable to ratify it any other way due to the constitution...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 09:43:41 AM EST
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EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - The area surrounding the Atomium, an atom-shaped structure seen on every Brussels postcard, might become a location for some of the European Commission's buildings, according to a draft project developed by the city of Brussels and seen by EUobserver.

The draft, entitled "Application file for the Heysel plain to host a new European quarter," dates back to 15 September 2008.

The European Commission's next location could have a view of the Atomium.

Placed right next to the Atomium, the Heysel area lies four kilometres north from the centre of the Belgian capital and the European quarter where the commission currently sits.

"By establishing itself in Heysel, the EU would affirm its imprint on the capital city and would extend its zone of influence outside the Leopold quarter," the draft paper argues.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:56:16 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | World | Europe | New clashes break out in Athens

Police in Athens have clashed with protesters in a resumption of the violence that flared after last month's killing of a teenager by police.

Hooded youths broke away from a student march against education reforms and threw stones and flares at riot police, who fired tear gas and flash grenades.

The centre-right Greek government has pledged to crack down on the rioting.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:08:28 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | World | Europe | 'Superwoman' Dati riles French

French Justice Minister Rachida Dati has come under fire from women's groups for returning to work just five days after giving birth.

Ms Dati attended a cabinet meeting on Wednesday, hours after leaving a Paris clinic with her new daughter, Zohra.

Activists said the move set a bad example for women, and put pressure on new mothers to return to work quickly.

Ms Dati, who gave birth by Caesarean on 2 January, told reporters she felt fine on her first day back at work.

"This is scandalous," Maya Sturduts from the National Collective for the Rights of Women told AFP news agency.

"Employers can now use this to put pressure on women," she said, especially during the current economic crisis when many companies are looking to reduce the number of staff.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:09:14 PM EST
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its right now at 27384 signatures.

Tony Blair for president of Europe? Interview suggests he wants the job | Politics | guardian.co.uk

Former PM was given four opportunities to dismiss the idea in an FT interview, but did not once do so

As well as giving an interesting speech at the New World, New Capitalism conference in Paris yesterday, a, Tony Blair found time to give a video interview to the editor of the Financial Times, Lionel Barber.

On the advice of Patrick Hennessy at Three Line Whip, I've just been watching it. And my conclusion is that Blair is still very, very interested in becoming president of Europe.

He didn't exactly put it like that, of course. But he was given four opportunities to dismiss the idea of being a candidate, and not once did he try to do so.

I got the impression that he wants the job quite keenly: watch for yourself and make your own mind up. The issue comes up right at the end, after the questions on Gaza. Here is a transcript of the key exchange.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:25:33 PM EST
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The time to relaunch Stop Blair will be directly after the next Irish referendum, if the Irish vote yes (a big if).
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:54:40 PM EST
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A huge continent sized zeppelin of an if methinks

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 04:34:21 PM EST
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SPECIAL FOCUS - Gas

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:49:00 PM EST
EU-Brokered Gas Deal Continues to Hang in the Balance | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 09.01.2009
The European Union says gas supplies to Europe could restart soon, even though the deal it has brokered between Moscow and Kyiv has been stalled by complaints from both sides.

The latest row erupted just as the first members of an EU monitoring mission arrived in Kyiv, with more expected within 24 hours. Russia wants the monitors in place to track the flow of gas through Ukrainian pipelines and ensure supplies are not stolen -- a charge Kyiv denies.

Russian and Ukrainian officials on Friday said they supported the EU observer plan, but both noted Kyiv and Moscow still have not agreed on gas pricing and terms between the two countries -- the issue leading to the cut-off.

 

Briefing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Friday, Gazprom chief Alexei Miller said there had been "no progress" on the price Kyiv should pay for gas and charge for transit tariffs in 2009.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:51:13 PM EST
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EUobserver

Hundreds of thousands of people were left without heating in the Balkans and some businesses had to cut production or close on Thursday (8 January), with resumption of gas flows impossible before next week.

In the Balkans - the European region the hardest hit by the gas crisis - many countries rely almost entirely on Russian gas, which stopped flowing completely on Wednesday.

Europe's cold spell continues to claim lives throughout the continent

Many schools have closed as result of the cold and several factories had to stop production, notably in Bulgaria, Macedonia and Bosnia, as temperatures fell well below zero.

In Bosnia, some 100,000 households are without central heating and there is panic buying of electric heaters in the capital Sarajevo. Some travelled to other cities to buy heaters, having exhausted reserves in Sarajevo's shops.

Around 65,000 households were without central heating in Bulgaria as heating plants changed over to crude oil. Public transport in the capital Sofia also switched off heating, while some hospitals delayed operations.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:53:55 PM EST
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EUobserver

EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - With EU experts heading to Russia and Ukraine on Friday in a bid to restart gas flows, one EU company has launched the first legal salvo - against Ukraine - to get its money back.

Vienna-based law firm Wolf Theiss on Thursday evening (8 January) filed a complaint at the EU court in Luxembourg on behalf of Hungarian gas provider Emfesz against Ukraine state owned gas transit company Naftogaz.

So far 18 EU states from France to Greece affected by the gas crisis (Photo: Naftogaz of Ukraine)

The legal complaint is based on a 1994 EU regulation to help European firms enforce rights under international pacts, especially World Trade Organisation (WTO) rules. Ukraine joined the WTO in May last year.

Emfesz also filed a second lawsuit against Naftogaz in a Budapest court, in what could signal the start of a domino effect of legal challenges to recoup lost income by EU companies.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:54:18 PM EST
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EU seeks to finalize Russian gas monitoring deal | International | Reuters

MOSCOW/KIEV (Reuters) - The European Union sought to finalize details on Friday of a gas monitoring deal to allow the resumption of gas supplies to Europe via Ukraine, which have been cut off for days over a pricing row.

But Ukraine made clear the continued political rancor underlying the dispute, which has closed some factories in eastern Europe and raised fears in the EU over future reliance on Russian gas deliveries.

"Those statements that have in recent days been heard from the mouth of the Russian leadership -- they are incorrect, they humiliate Ukraine," President Viktor Yushchenko told a news briefing, apparently referring to accusations by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin of high-level corruption and disarray in Kiev.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:06:14 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | World | Europe | EU gas monitors arrive in Ukraine

There are hopes that gas flows through Ukraine may soon be restored after the first EU monitors arrived to start checking pipelines from Russia.

Hundreds of thousands of homes in Europe remain without heating amid plunging temperatures, following a row over gas between Russia and Ukraine.

But Russia says shipments will resume when Russian, Ukrainian and EU monitors start work, possibly later in the day.

It may still take several days for gas to reach some areas, however.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:07:59 PM EST
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SPECIAL FOCUS - Gaza

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:49:18 PM EST
EU Presidency Hardens Tone as Israel Pursues War with Hamas | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 09.01.2009
The Czech EU presidency urged Israel and Hamas to avoid a further escalation of the violence in the Gaza Strip Friday, saying it was "deeply concerned" at the situation and urged the two sides to embrace a UN truce deal.

"The Presidency is deeply concerned over the continuing Israeli military action in Gaza and the continuation of indiscriminate rocket attacks on Israel," the EU presidency said in a statement.

 

"We call on all parties to restrain from acts that further escalate an already tense situation," it added.

 

The EU presidency called on all parties to fully implement a truce order from the UN Security Council.

 

A defiant Israel pounded Gaza with bombs and shells Friday, vowing to pursue its war on Hamas despite the UN decision, amid warnings the population was running out of food.

 

The European Commission meanwhile condemned "in the strongest terms" the attacks on UN humanitarian convoys and personnel in Gaza.

 



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:50:52 PM EST
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Let's just say things are a little chaotic on the EU diplomacy front with the Czech-led initiative, the Sarko initiative and now Blair all crowding around undermining each other's creddibility (as if there were any in the first place).

Never has kissinger's lament been so true; "when I need to call europe, what number do I dial?"

keep to the Fen Causeway

by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 04:52:00 PM EST
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Israeli forces press on with Gaza assault | World News | Deutsche Welle | 09.01.2009
Both Israel and the militant Palestinian group Hamas have dismissed a UN Security Council resolution that calls for an immediate ceasefire in the Gaza Strip. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said the resolution was unworkable noting that Palestinians had fired more rockets at Israel on Friday. As Israel's security cabinet decided to continue its military campaign, warplanes bombed the outskirts of Gaza City, killing seven Palestinians


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:51:49 PM EST
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UN levels war crimes warning at Israel over shelling of evacuee house in Zeitoun | World news | guardian.co.uk

The Israeli military may have committed war crimes in Gaza, the UN's most senior human rights official said tonight, as Israeli troops pressed on with their increasingly deadly offensive in defiance of a UN security council resolution demanding a ceasefire.

Navi Pillay, the UN high commissioner for human rights, singled out the killing this week of up to 30 Palestinians in Zeitoun, south-east of Gaza City, when Israel shelled a house where its troops had told about 110 civilians to take shelter.

Pillay, a former international criminal court judge from South Africa, told the BBC the incident "appears to have all the elements of war crimes". She called for "credible, independent and transparent" investigations into possible violations of humanitarian law.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:57:32 PM EST
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Barack Obama administration 'prepared to talk to Hamas' | World news | guardian.co.uk

The incoming Obama administration is prepared to abandon George Bush's ­doctrine of isolating Hamas by establishing a channel to the Islamist organisation, sources close to the transition team say.

The move to open contacts with Hamas, which could be initiated through the US intelligence services, would represent a definitive break with the Bush ­presidency's ostracising of the group. The state department has designated Hamas a terrorist organisation, and in 2006 ­Congress passed a law banning US financial aid to the group.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:03:44 PM EST
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I got it : breaking with Bush. I adjusted my antenna. Reread the Indyk interview.  I examined the Guardian PR again in order to divine the new ME order from the "three people" leaks. I conclude, Blair is campaigning for super-secret assignment to low-level master of ceremonies since every one agrees that, at least, he says nothing very well. Or a clever rendition of G.H.W.Bush's "policy" which few will recall as compared to Dubya's which everyone hopes to forget.

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Haas, 2xBush state department, current president of CFR, president-elect's designate. "[Obama] supports low-level contacts with Hamas provided there is a ceasefire in place and a Hamas-Fatah reconciliation emerges." This is the recommendation of Martin Indyk in a Foreign Affairs article, notes the reporter.

Clown #1: "This is going to be an administration that is committed to negotiating with critical parties on critical issues." Hopefully, this person is not party to the issues that Indyk refuses to issue, critically.

Clemons: "Secret envoys, multilateral six-party talk-like approaches. The total isolation of Hamas that we promulgated under Bush is going to end." Epic fail.

Clown #2: "It is highly unlikely that they will be public about it."

Miller: "We [Obama administrateion] will be perceived to be weak and feckless if we are perceived to be on the margins, unable to persuade the Israelis, unable to work with the international community to end this." On the margins, meaning "low-level" or "clandestine" muscle of reconcilliation? This is a lonely, thankless job. Mercifully for America, Barry is photogenic in 4C and B/W.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 07:56:08 PM EST
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Love this feed. But don't visit often enough.
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Love this headline: Obama names Panetta, Blair as top spymasters | Reuters | 10 Jan 2009 (3,409)

Panetta and Blair did not come up through the ranks of intelligence agencies, and their nominations reflect Obama's determination to restore a U.S. reputation battered by accusations of torturing suspected terrorists and secret wiretapping of Americans' overseas phone calls.

"To be truly secure we must adhere to our values as vigilantly as we protect our safety, with no exceptions," Obama said in announcing his picks.

"Under my administration the United States does not torture. We will abide by the Geneva Conventions. We will uphold our highest ideals," he said.

Obama pledged to ensure that U.S. intelligence is accurate and untainted by politics, after the spy agencies failed to prevent the September 11 attacks and wrongly concluded that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

OK, Wrong Blair. But I ask you: What better cover for clandestine diplomacy in the EU than President of the EU?

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 11:02:20 PM EST
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Israel rebuffs U.N. resolution, pursues Gaza war | International | Reuters

GAZA (Reuters) - Israel rejected a U.N. resolution calling for a ceasefire in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip on Friday and warplanes and tanks pounded the Palestinian enclave.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert dismissed Thursday's binding Security Council resolution demanding an "immediate and durable" ceasefire in the two-week-old war as "unworkable."

Israel said Hamas fighters had fired at least 30 rockets into its territory on Friday. No casualties were reported.

Medics in Gaza said the Palestinian death toll had risen to 784. Ten Israeli soldiers have been killed, as well as three civilians hit by Hamas cross-border rocket fire.

Hamas officials in Gaza say they are weighing the U.N. resolution, but have voiced irritation they were not consulted.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:05:46 PM EST
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UN agency says 80 pct of Gaza needs urgent food aid | International | Reuters
ROME, Jan 9 (Reuters) - At least 80 percent of people in Gaza need urgent food assistance and Israel must make access to the area easier for humanitarian aid to be delivered, the head of the United Nations' food relief agency said on Friday.

The World Food Programme (WFP) said it was becoming increasingly difficult to find food in Gaza, with little available in markets, bakeries running out of wheat flour, flour mills running out of grain and many people too frightened to leave their homes.


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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:06:48 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Gaza prompts boycott in Malaysia

The removal of Coca-Cola from thousands of restaurants in Malaysia in protest at US support for Israel will hurt the local economy, the company has said.

The drinks company was responding to boycotts of US-made goods called by Muslim groups in Malaysia.

Malaysia has called at the United Nations for action to stop the Israeli offensive in Gaza.

Former leader Mahathir Mohamad has also called for a global boycott of the US dollar and US products.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:17:23 PM EST
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Former Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir had earlier called for a boycott of US currency and goods.

"If you stop accepting US currency, the US can't trade and can't make any money, it will become very poor and it will have to stop the production of more and more weapons in order to kill people," he said on Monday.

"We should not be buying all these weapons from the US, we can buy from the Russians if we must have aeroplanes and things like that," he added.

"People must act... they won't die if they don't drink Coca-Cola," he said.

Standing, not kneeling: watchacall "de-colonization" of de mind. LOL. It's a crucial foundation of self-determination, but as we shall see, insufficient defense in of itself of life and liberty.

'Developing' World Pragmatism, continued | Press TV | 9 Jan 2009

Press TV: How do you assess the prospects for the global economy in 2009 and how will ASEAN members, of which Malaysia is also one, figure?

Mohamad: Well, the global economy is still going to deteriorate further...is going to become bad simply because all the efforts taken by the United States and Europe to stop the slide has failed.

Bailing out companies, bailing out banks have not really worked. So the situation will get worse and ASEAN countries will feel the impact because largely ASEAN countries have trade with the rest of the world and their economies are dependant on trade.

If the markets are unable to buy what they produce, then, off course, they will not able to export as much as they used to and this will affect the economy.

Press TV: Sanction regimes are regarded more and more as the diplomatic tactics from a bygone age. How effective do you consider them to be in the present diplomatic climate and what could replace sanctions?

Mohamad: Well, sanction has proven a failure in terms of changing the attitudes of government, but it has, off course, succeeded in doing a lot of damage, in killing a lot of people.

Ironically, news of an organized boycott, action, puts to lie Mr Mohamad's apparently equanimous acceptance of globalized "interdependence." LOL.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 10:06:16 AM EST
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U.S. seeks ship to move arms to Israel | Reuters

LONDON (Reuters) - The U.S. is seeking to hire a merchant ship to deliver hundreds of tons of arms to Israel from Greece later this month, tender documents seen by Reuters show.

The U.S. Navy's Military Sealift Command (MSC) said the ship was to carry 325 standard 20-foot containers of what is listed as "ammunition" on two separate journeys from the Greek port of Astakos to the Israeli port of Ashdod in mid-to-late January.

A "hazardous material" designation on the manifest mentions explosive substances and detonators, but no other details were given.

"Shipping 3,000-odd tons of ammunition in one go is a lot," one broker said, on condition of anonymity.

"This (kind of request) is pretty rare and we haven't seen much of it quoted in the market over the years," he added.

The U.S. Defense Department, contacted by Reuters on Friday in Washington, had no immediate comment.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 02:57:51 AM EST
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Israel bombed a school killing dozens of children. The UNRWA had given them the coordinates so that they would NOT bomb it. But they did.

Haaretz:

The United Nations is claiming Israeli military officers have admitted there was no Palestinian gunfire emanating from inside an UNRWA school in Gaza which was shelled by an IDF tank.

They're also doing exactly what they accuse others of doing:


He noted that all the footage released by the IDF of militants firing from inside the school was from 2007 and not from the incident itself.

"There are no up-to-date photos," Gunness said. "In 2007, we abandoned the site and only then did the militants take it over."



A 'centrist' is someone who's neither on the left, nor on the left.
by nicta (nico@altiva․fr) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 07:48:50 AM EST
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There's a big protest demonstration that has just left Place de la République, heading down to Bastille and finishing at Place de la Nation at about 7:00pm.

This morning, police were busy on the Place removing anything that looked like it could be used as a projectile. A friend came back to his bike just in time to avoid them cutting through his chain and taking everything away. A lot of shops near the Place said that they were going to close (despite this being the first weekend of the January sales).

Liberation reports that 3800 police have been deployed to maintain order. About an hour ago I saw my first ever water cannon, driving up my street. Not sure if I want to venture out to find out what's happening.



We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death.
by davel on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 10:17:26 AM EST
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WORLD

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:49:45 PM EST
NATO Warns Kosovo Violence Could Spread | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 09.01.2009
Recent violence in Mitrovica could spread across the newly independent state of Kosovo, the commander of French peacekeepers in NATO, General Michel Yakovleff, warned on Friday.

For over a week now, the ethnically divided city of Mitrovica has seen violent incidents with people injured and cars and shops set alight. Tensions between Kosovo's ethnic Albanian majority and Serb minority have been running high since the region declared independence from Serbia nearly a year ago.

"This is urban violence," said Yakovleff. "But it has political implications, meaning that it can mobilize people. That can lead to major conflict."

 

Yakovleff said his soldiers are prepared to put down any violence in the northern sector of Kosovo.

 

"Be aware of the strong determination of KFOR to respond, even brutally if necessary, to all forms of violence," he said.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:52:06 PM EST
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Illinois House votes to impeach governor Rod Blagojevich | World news | guardian.co.uk

Illinois lawmakers today voted unanimously to impeach the scandal-ridden governor Rod Blagojevich, who is alleged to have tried to sell Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat.

The Illinois House of Representatives voted 114 to one to start the impeachment process next week.

The process involves the state senate basically conducting a trial, which could take about three weeks.

"It's our duty to clean up the mess and stop the freak show that's become Illinois government," said Jack Franks, one of the Democrats who voted for impeachment.

A spokesman for Blagojevich insisted he will not resign. Some lawmakers had expressed hope that, faced with impeachment, he might opt to leave voluntarily.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:57:57 PM EST
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Illinois House votes to impeach Gov. Blagojevich | U.S. | Reuters

CHICAGO (Reuters) - The Illinois House of Representatives impeached Gov. Rod Blagojevich on Friday for abuse of power, including a charge that he tried to sell President-elect Barack Obama's former U.S. Senate seat.

The Democratic-controlled House voted 114 to one, with another legislator voting present, to impeach the two-term Democrat. That clears the way for a trial in the state Senate, where conviction by more than two-thirds of its members would result in his removal from office.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:05:25 PM EST
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Yes, let's bolt that door now the horse has bolted, we're letting in a draught

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 04:59:35 PM EST
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Hijacked Saudi oil tanker released Hijacked Saudi oil tanker released after ransom dropped by parachute | World news | guardian.co.uk

The Saudi supertanker seized by Somali pirates in the world's biggest ever hijacking has been freed following a reported ransom payment of $3m. Last night the US navy released a photo showing a small package apparently containing the ransom parachuting to the deck of the Sirius Star from a small aircraft.

The Sirius Star, which was carrying 2m barrels of oil when it was captured on November 15, sailed from the pirate lair of Harardheere on Somalia's eastern coast today.

Two Britons - chief engineer Peter French, from County Durham, and second officer James Grady, from Renfrewshire - are among the crew of 25 who were all reported to be unharmed.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:58:44 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Saudi tanker 'freed off Somalia'

A Saudi supertanker that was captured by Somali pirates in November carrying two million barrels of oil has been released, reports quoting pirates say.

A regional maritime group also said pirates had left the Sirius Star, Reuters news agency reported.

A negotiator for the pirates told the BBC a $3m (£1.95m) ransom was paid.

A small plane was seen apparently dropping the ransom by parachute onto the tanker. The ship's owner has refused to comment.

The vessel, with 25 crew, is the biggest tanker ever to be hijacked.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:09:41 PM EST
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US unemployment: Job losses for year highest since second world war | Business | guardian.co.uk

More than half a million jobs were lost in the US last month, taking the unemployment rate to its highest in 16 years.

Job losses over the whole of last year totalled 2.6 million, the biggest annual loss since 1945 when 2.75m jobs were shed, the US labour department said.

The bulk of the year's job losses came in the last four months when 1.9m people were laid off. In December alone, US employers cut 524,000 jobs. The original numbers for October and November were also revised higher.

Analysts said that companies had been cutting staff in anticipation of a very difficult year.

"These figures suggest that businesses have been focusing on clearing the decks to match their workforce to the economic conditions we will see in 2009," said John Silvia of Wachovia.

The unemployment rate hit 7.2% last month, up on 6.8% in November and the highest since January 1993.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:59:17 PM EST
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Jobs recovery months away: staffing execs | Reuters

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Any U.S. job market recovery is at least several months away, staffing industry executives say, citing comments from customers, weak consumer spending and evidence in the December jobs report that employers are cutting hours and overtime.

The economy shed 524,000 jobs outside the farm sector last month, fewer than expected, and the unemployment rate jumped to 7.2 percent, the highest since January 1993. Job losses in October and November were bigger than initially estimated.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:04:59 PM EST
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months, on the order of 6-9 at minimum
by paving on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 06:50:20 PM EST
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Optimist.

"Ideas or the lack of them can cause disease." - Kurt Vonnegut
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 06:04:17 AM EST
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U.S. sheds more jobs, European industry slumps | U.S. | Reuters

U.S. President-elect Barack Obama said the jobs data was a "stark reminder" of the need for speedy passage of a stimulus package.

"Clearly the situation is dire. It is deteriorating and it demands urgent and immediate action," Obama told a news conference.

Germany, Britain, France, Spain and Sweden meanwhile all reported slumping industrial output with some posting the worst figures in many years.

Germany reported its biggest annual fall since 1993, dragged down by a downturn among manufacturers that is threatening to cause the worst recession in the country's post-war history.

Preliminary Economy Ministry figures showed output fell by 10 percent year-on-year as demand for cars and other capital goods faded across the globe.

"We're at the start of a really deep recession," said Juergen Michels, an economist at Citigroup in London.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:07:30 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Business | US job losses hit record in 2008

More US workers lost jobs last year than in any year since World War II, with employers axing 2.6 million posts and 524,000 in December alone.

The US jobless rate rose to 7.2% in December, the highest in 16 years.

The official data came as plane-maker Boeing said it would cut 4,500 jobs this year at its commercial airline arm due to the global economic slowdown.

US President-elect Barack Obama said that the economic situation is dire and action is urgently needed.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:11:08 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Business | S Korea cuts rates as woes deepen

South Korea's central bank has slashed interest rates by half a percentage point to a record low of 2.5%, in the latest attempt to fend off recession.

The bank warned that economic activity was "slackening at a rapid pace".

President Lee Myung-bak has warned that the country's target of 3% growth in 2008 could prove unattainable.

The latest victim of the downturn is the country's fifth biggest carmaker, Ssangyong Motor, which said on Friday it had applied for court receivership.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:16:36 PM EST
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This web-based Canadian funding initiative is an interesting one

Colektivo

It's still lending though, and that being so it is likely to fall fall of the Canadian banking/deposit-taking regime unless they make their peace with the regualators first (at huge cost in time and legal fees etc etc).

My approach would be similar "Pooling" but instead of lending to use a quasi Equity revenue-sharing approach through "unitising" gross revenues (if there are any).

Quite recently Prosper.com - the online Peer to Peer "social" lending operation - was obliged by the US SEC to

Cease and Desist

Modern conservatives engage in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.Galbraith

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 07:27:21 AM EST
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Properly so.

Prosper assigns borrowers [Why not creditors?! ] a credit grade ['mark-to-model'] based on a commercial credit obtained from a credit bureau [FICO, 'mark-to-market' for a fee], but Prosper does not verify personal information, such as employment and income [materially irrelevant: that verification is the purportedly the 'value-added' to payment reports, collected by FICO marketers]. ... After an auction closes and a loan is fully bid upon, the borrower receives the requested loan with the interest rate fixed by Prosper at the lowest rate acceptable to all winning bidders. Individuals do not actually lend mone directly to the borrower; rather, the borrower receives a loan from a bank with which Prosper has contracted. The interests in that loan are then sold and assigned through Prosper to the lenders, with each lender receiving an individual non-recourse promissory note [a security] ...

Prosper collects an origination fee from each borrower of one to three percent of loan proceeds and collects servicing fees from each lender from loan payments at an anual rate of one percent of the outstanding principal balance of the notes.

A poor example of "peer-to-peer" lending, postulated: Not only does Prosper function as an "intermediary," Prosper resells "intermediary" capital, and Prosper "lenders" risk no capital other than continuous payment of Prosper fees.

An excellent example of buzzword-gone-wild.

pdf, at sec.gov where one need not register to obtain a public record.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Sat Jan 10th, 2009 at 11:15:23 AM EST
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THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:50:04 PM EST
Birth of first British baby screened to be free of cancer gene | Science | guardian.co.uk

The first British baby genetically screened before conception to be free of a breast cancer gene has been born, doctors said today.

The baby girl grew from an embryo screened to ensure it did not contain the faulty BRCA1 gene, which would have meant she had a 50-85% of developing breast cancer.

A spokeswoman for University College London hospital said the mother and daughter were doing "very well", adding that the family did not wish to reveal when the little girl was born.

Paul Serhal, the medical director of the assisted conception unit at the hospital, said: "This little girl will not face the spectre of developing this genetic form of breast cancer or ovarian cancer in her adult life.

"The parents will have been spared the risk of inflicting this disease on their daughter.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:59:41 PM EST
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Tony Blair for president of Europe? Interview suggests he wants the job | Politics | guardian.co.uk

As well as giving an interesting speech at the New World, New Capitalism conference in Paris yesterday, a, Tony Blair found time to give a video interview to the editor of the Financial Times, Lionel Barber.

On the advice of Patrick Hennessy at Three Line Whip, I've just been watching it. And my conclusion is that Blair is still very, very interested in becoming president of Europe.

He didn't exactly put it like that, of course. But he was given four opportunities to dismiss the idea of being a candidate, and not once did he try to do so.

I got the impression that he wants the job quite keenly: watch for yourself and make your own mind up. The issue comes up right at the end, after the questions on Gaza. Here is a transcript of the key exchange.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:01:05 PM EST
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Now that J is a media personality :-))), we should be able to get more traction for our campaign

keep to the Fen Causeway
by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 05:11:22 PM EST
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China: Largest importer of waste collapses | Environment | The Guardian

The scrap trader was immovable, despite Wu Wenxiu's pleas. She would pay one yuan - roughly 10p - for a kilogram of plastic. Around the corner in Shi Yuhai's yard, the offer was no better. Wu shrugged his shoulders and began to heave bags from his tricycle on to the scales. "One kuai [yuan] here, one kuai there - everywhere's the same these days. This industry has broken down," he grumbled.

Wu is one of 160,000 collectors in Beijing who make a living from the detritus of urban life - plastic sheeting, office printouts, bottles, radiators and scraps of cardboard. Recycling has become a global industry and China is the largest importer of the world's waste materials, taking in as much as a third of Britain's recyclables for example. Then came the slump, decimating the Chinese recycling industry and leaving Britain, the US and others grappling with growing volumes of recycled waste and nowhere to send it.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:02:20 PM EST
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Funny you should pick up this story. I was reading news at BAN this morning. The UK and China are a signatories to the toxic waste trade convention. The US is not. Pathetic. I discovered BAN in a National Geographic article some months ago.

Yet recycling, under the current system, is less benign than it sounds. Dropping your old electronic gear off with a recycling company or at a municipal collection point does not guarantee that it will be safely disposed of. While some recyclers process the material with an eye toward minimizing pollution and health risks, many more sell it to brokers who ship it to the developing world, where environmental enforcement is weak. For people in countries on the front end of this arrangement, it's a handy out-of-sight, out-of-mind solution.

So I read the Guardian's article in full.

Recycling has become a global industry and China is the largest importer of the world's waste materials, taking in as much as a third of Britain's recyclables for example.

"Taking in" is a weasely phrase. What portion, I wonder, is recycled by Chinese buyers into packing sold domestically and internationally, say, a UK firm like Tesco; What portion is simply dumped in Chinese landfills? This article is a helpful companion in illustrating the marketing (i.e. distribution) of waste sorted and collected in the UK. It is a bit vague. I'll wander over to Closed Loop and the Waste and Resources Action Programme.

One thing is clear. Local manufacture of recycled products ought to be key beneficiaries of  infrastructure and investment "recovery" plans. I really wish it weren't so difficult to find transparent, bipartisan consensus on that project.

Diversity is the key to economic and political evolution.

by MarketTrustee on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 05:47:17 PM EST
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Billions face food shortages, study warns | Environment | The Guardian

Half of the world's population could face severe food shortages by the end of the century as rising temperatures take their toll on farmers' crops, scientists have warned.

Harvests of staple food crops such as rice and maize could fall by between 20% and 40% as a result of higher temperatures during the growing season in the tropics and subtropics. Warmer temperatures in the region are also expected to increase the risk of drought, cutting crop losses further, according to a new study.

The worst of the food shortages are expected to hit the poor, densely inhabited regions of the equatorial belt, where demand for food is already soaring because of a rapid growth in population.

A study in the US journal Science found there was a 90% chance that by the end of the century, the coolest temperatures in the tropics during the crop growing season would exceed the hottest temperatures recorded between 1900 and 2006.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:04:27 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Zimbabwe troops 'eat elephants'

Zimbabwean soldiers are being given elephant meat for their rations, a wildlife campaigner has told the BBC.

Jonny Rodrigues from the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force said that several soldiers had complained to him that was the only meat they were given.

Zimbabwe is believed to have some 100,000 elephants - more than its parks can sustainably hold and its economy is in freefall.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:10:19 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | World | Americas | Man demands kidney back

An American surgeon is demanding that his estranged wife returns a kidney he donated to her or pays him $1.5m in compensation.

Dr Richard Batista has gone public with the demand saying he is fed up with how long it is taking for his divorce to be finalised.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:11:53 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | Venomous mammal caught on camera

Rare footage of one of the world's most strange and elusive mammals has been captured by scientists.

Large, and with a long, thin snout, the Hispaniolan solenodon resembles an overgrown shrew; it can inject passing prey with a venom-loaded bite.

Little is known about the creature, which is found in the Caribbean, but it is under threat from deforestation, hunting and introduced species.

Researchers say conservation efforts are now needed.

The mammal was filmed in the summer of 2008 during a month-long expedition to the Dominican Republic - one of only two countries where this nocturnal, insect-eating animal (Solenodon paradoxus) can be found (the other is Haiti).



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:13:04 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Technology | Google search finds missing child

A nine-year-old girl, allegedly kidnapped by her grandmother, has been found using a mobile phone signal and Google Street View.

A police officer and a firefighter in Athol, Massachusetts, joined forces after authorities were alerted that Natalie Maltais had been taken.

Officers used GPS in the girl's mobile phone to find her approximate location.

They fed the co-ordinates into Google Street View, pinpointing a hotel where the child was subsequently found.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:13:33 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Arts & Culture | Obama to star in Spider-Man comic

US President-elect Barack Obama is to appear on the cover of a special edition of a Spider-Man comic.

A six-page story, with the superhero saving the day when an imposter tries to take Mr Obama's place as president, will hit shelves next Wednesday.

Marvel Comics editor Joe Quesada said the idea for edition came after Mr Obama admitted he was a Spider-Man fan.

"How great is that? The commander-in-chief to be is actually a nerd-in-chief," Mr Quesada said.

Mr Obama's fan status was revealed by his campaign team, who released 10 little-known facts about the Democrat.

"Right at the top of that list was he collected Spider-Man comics," Mr Quesada said.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:14:23 PM EST
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Art - Seeing Rembrandt With New Eyes at the Metropolitan Museum - Review - NYTimes.com
By HOLLAND COTTER Published: January 8, 2009

In the 17th century the Netherlands was the most prosperous country in Europe. Then at midpoint of the century, partly because of a draining war, the bubble burst. The Dutch art market, at its zenith, collapsed. People thought, "Oh, it's just a phase." It wasn't. The golden age of Dutch art was over.

Rembrandt was hit especially hard. A decade earlier he had been a star, with a client waiting list a mile long. Amsterdam, like New York today, was a town of culture-craving burghers who had to have -- had to have -- a Rembrandt in their homes. So he turned himself into an art machine, piled on assistants to finish off work, and became very rich.


Bad times for art means bad times for art critics at collapsing newspapers...
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 05:35:12 PM EST
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Also note the first name of the reviewer is "Holland"
by paving on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 06:56:54 PM EST
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BotJunkie » RiceBot Farms Fields While You Sip Sake
A rice planting robot developed by the National Agriculture and Food Research Organization in Japan is the grand prize winner of the Japanese Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry 2008 Robot Awards. There were some other hardware awards, but the only other really interesting winner was (I'm pretty sure) this little guy. Anyway, the ricebot is the first one in the world to be completely automated, using GPS and gyros to figure out its position in the field and keep the rice planted in nice, tidy lines.
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 05:58:03 PM EST
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KLATSCH

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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 02:50:21 PM EST
Young Tory expelled for dressing up as Madeleine McCann | Politics | guardian.co.uk

The Conservatives today expelled a leading young activist from the party after he boasted about dressing up as the missing five-year-old Madeleine McCann at a new year party.

Caroline Spelman, the Tory party chair, expelled Matthew Lewis after it emerged that he had discussed plans to wear a blonde wig, "pink pyjamas, a teddy bear and a vial of fake blood" to the event on his Facebook page.

Other figures from the organisation left messages on the Facebook paghe, with one responding: "Is this a cunning (Baldrick style) plan to obtain the reward money?"

Spelman described the behaviour of Lewis, a member of the party's Conservative Future youth wing, as "completely unacceptable".

"This offensive behaviour is not only shocking but intolerable and completely unacceptable," she said. "There is no place for this sort of person in the party."



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:00:26 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Little Boots tops music tips list

Electro-pop singer Little Boots has come top of the BBC's Sound of 2009 list, which aims to highlight the best new music talent for the new year.

Little Boots is 24-year-old singer and keyboard player Victoria Hesketh from Blackpool, whose influences include David Bowie, Gary Numan and Kate Bush.

The Sound of 2009 list is based on tips from 134 leading UK tastemakers, who named their favourite three new acts.

Last year, Adele came top, followed by Duffy, The Ting Tings and Glasvegas.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:12:34 PM EST
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BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Eurovision acts set for showdown

The six acts hoping to represent the UK in the Eurovision Song Contest are facing their biggest test yet.

Under the glaring lights of the BBC's main studio at Television Centre in London, the singers are tackling rehearsals for the first live show on Saturday night.

The floor is crawling with production staff, the set is lit with the colours of the Union Jack, and the band strikes up with Abba's Eurovision classic Waterloo.

The acts run through their group performance of the song with great success, the opener for Your Country Needs You.

They may be just getting to grips with working on television, but for one act, the dream will come to an end on Saturday.



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by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Jan 9th, 2009 at 03:16:04 PM EST
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