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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:37:22 PM EST
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by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:41:19 PM EST
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"Ne te courbe que pour aimer..." René Char
by Melanchthon on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 03:29:55 AM EST
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Trouw, hetNieuws| europa - Nieuwe topman EU / Veel burgers niet blij met 'EU-president' Tony Blair

In Groot-Brittannië, maar ook in Brussel en Berlijn, spreken steeds meer burgers en politici zich uit tegen een eventueel Europees presidentschap van ex-premier Tony Blair.

Misschien, schrijft The Economist, moet Tony Blair het maar als een (dubbelzinnig) compliment beschouwen dat er een heuse protestbeweging tegen hem is ontketend.

Sinds bekend werd dat hij overweegt te solliciteren naar het presidentschap van de Europese Unie is er een site opgericht in elf talen en een petitie opgesteld (www.stopblair.eu). In Brussel, maar ook in Londen en Berlijn, groeit de weerstand tegen 'president Blair'.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 03:38:47 AM EST
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The biggest tent of the lot: to stop Blair becoming EU President | The Spectator

The principal reason that continental Europe does not want Blair is, of course, the invasion of Iraq. And they don't know the half of it. They know that a sovereign country was invaded illegally, against the wishes of the United Nations, at the behest of the US and its little manqué superpower Great Britain. They have seen the devastation and civil war which resulted as a consequence, of course. But they are not, by and large, aware of the chicanery and manipulation which was involved over here in order to swing a reluctant public and House of Commons behind what was Britain's most disastrous foreign adventure since Suez. Perhaps somebody ought to tell them.

Still, there is at least one bright spot resulting from Mr Blair's candidacy. The modest and agreeable Jean-Claude Juncker of Luxembourg will not be able to believe the groundswell of support he receives from all corners of the continent. M. Juncker -- a name which has the right sort of ring about it for an EU presidency -- is considered to be the front-runner among alternative candidates. The name of Bertie Ahern has also been mentioned. Frankly, Blair aside, I couldn't care less, so long as the job has not the remotest vestige of power over my country.

Meanwhile, there's already a website devoted to making sure Blair does not get the job. It's called www.stopblair.eu and I think it's being run by a bunch of pro-federalist monkeys. Never mind that -- we're all together on this one, it's a big tent.


Cover article! This is at the bottom, though (page 5 on the website).
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 05:23:42 AM EST
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EU president? Make it anyone but Blair, say the Germans | the Daily Mail

At the same time, an online "Stop Blair" petition has already managed to collect 20,000 names in protest against Mr Blair's nomination.

The petition, at www.stopblair.eu, was set up by Jerome Guillet, a Parisbased investment banker who hopes to collect one million signatures and hole Mr Blair's candidacy beneath the water line.

Pro-European Mr Guillet said: "Tony Blair embodies many things we do not like.

"He is universally reviled.

"This is not the rest of Europe against Britain.

"It is against him and what he stands for, especially that he is too close to GeorgeWBush."

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 05:24:48 AM EST
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FTD.de (Financial Times Deutschland) - Beschossener Pudel

Das Amt gibt es noch nicht. Der angebliche Kandidat hat seinen Finger noch nicht gehoben. Doch die Anzeichen häufen sich, dass Tony Blair nach dem Posten des EU-Ratspräsidenten greift. Die EU, an höchster Stelle repräsentiert durch den Ex-Regierungschef der europaskeptischen Briten. Bisher hatte diese Vorstellung nur unbehagliches Geraune des einen oder anderen Diplomaten ausgelöst. Doch jetzt provoziert Blairs mögliche Kandidatur erstmals konkreten Widerstand: eine Onlinepetition, deren Name Programm ist - "Stopblair".

Wer hinter der Kampagne steht, ist bislang unklar. Ziel ihrer Initiatoren ist es, die Kandidatur des Labour-Politikers mit einer Million Unterschriften zu diskreditieren. Die Petition soll schriftlicher Ausdruck einer "Totalopposition" werden, wie es auf "stopblair.eu" heißt.


Another Journalist who did not do his homework. There is a link on the page to ET!
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 05:47:56 AM EST
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D'oh, you discovered it already!

Wer hinter der Kampagne steht, ist bislang unklar.

What about an LTE to them? See in media coverage diary soon.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 08:41:05 AM EST
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That's pretty interesting, considering European Tribune features prominently in the stopblair site. They either haven't read the notice
Wer sind wir?

Wir sind eine Gruppe von Teilnehmern an der European Tribune, einer gemeinschaftlichen Webseite, auf der wir über europäische und globale Politik diskutieren, und noch über viele andere Dinge...

ANMERKUNG: dies ist eine vorläufige Version der Seite, die wir in der Eile zusammengestellt haben. Wir könnten den Platz, an dem sich die Petition befindet, ebenso wie das Design der Seite, noch ändern. Außerdem fehlen uns noch weitere Versionen der Petition, um alle Amtssprachen der EU abzudecken! Besuchen Sie uns wieder!

Kontaktieren Sie uns: etg@eurotrib.com

or don't believe it.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:30:41 AM EST
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Media coverage makes a whole lot of difference.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 11:21:50 AM EST
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Just sneeking in for a moment, and what do I see? 20023
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 11:20:04 AM EST
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Sweden demands EU role for leaders of future presidency countries - EUobserver.com
EUOBSERVER / STRASBOURG - Swedish Prime Minister Frederik Reinfeldt has said the EU should outline a list of co-chairing tasks for leaders of future presidency countries after the new post of EU president is established.

Speaking to journalists after his address to the European Parliament on Tuesday (19 February), the Mr Reinfeldt suggested that if there is no role for EU leaders in the future, it could have a negative impact on their engagement with the bloc's agenda.

The Czech Republic and Sweden are the two countries which are due to chair the EU in 2009 - just as the new Lisbon treaty is supposed to come into force.

Under the new treaty, the bloc is to shift from a rotating six-month presidency to a mixed system of a permanent EU president coordinating top level debates at European level and ministerial sessions chaired by ministers from presidency countries.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:43:29 PM EST
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EU treaty ratification may be delayed in Germany - EUobserver.com
Formal ratification of the EU treaty in Germany may be delayed, meaning the bloc's biggest member state would not sign off the treaty in time for it to come into force across all member states at the beginning of 2009 as planned.

According to a report in German daily Die Welt, politicians from the Left Party as well as Peter Gauweiler, a centre-right politician from one of governing parties -the CSU - are examining the text of the EU treaty to see if they can bring a case before the country's constitutional court.

Their move could mean that the final formal step of ratification is delayed.

German MPs are widely expected to approve the treaty when it comes before parliament in May.

However, the text then needs to be signed off by the country's president, Horst Kohler.

If Mr Gauweiler has put a case before the court, Mr Kohler will then have to decide whether to go ahead and sign off the treaty anyway or wait for the court to make its case.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:44:28 PM EST
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Whose Kremlin is it? Medvedev's economic plan rocks the boat - International Herald Tribune

BERLIN: During the highly secretive Soviet era, Kremlinology became an art form.

Whenever there was a hint of power struggle within the Communist leadership, diplomats and journalists would scrutinize public events to see who was standing closest to the leader or even more important, who was standing in for him in case of illness or death.

Kremlinology receded during the 1990s when the Soviet Union collapsed and corrupt oligarchs replaced party apparatchiks. But under President Vladimir Putin, a former KGB officer who bows out as head of state next month to make way for his protégé, Dmitri Medvedev, Kremlinology has come back into its own.

During his nine years in power, the often inscrutable Putin kept the various factions inside the Kremlin under control, playing one off against the other and distributing favors, mostly by parceling out jobs at powerful state-owned companies.

But now, having chosen Medvedev to succeed him, Putin has unleashed a power struggle inside the Kremlin that involves the direction of the economy and, by implication, the political future of the groups he has promoted.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:51:07 PM EST
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NATO peacekeepers close off roads between Kosovo and Serbia - International Herald Tribune

KOSOVSKA MITROVICA, Kosovo: NATO peacekeepers reopened two demolished border checkpoints between Serbia and northern Kosovo Wednesday as thousands of Serbs protested Kosovo's independence.

For three days, Kosovo's Serbs have shown their anger over Sunday's declaration of independence by the ethnic Albanian leadership, destroying U.N. and NATO property, setting off small bombs and staging noisy rallies.

Chanting "We won't give up Kosovo," some 3,000 demonstrators marched to a bridge in the tense Serb stronghold of Kosovska Mitrovica dividing the two communities. U.N. policemen sealed off the bridge and NATO helicopters hovered overhead.

Protesters expressed their anger over the swift recognition of Kosovo's independence by world powers including the United States, France, Britain -- and now Germany. Some carried the flag of Spain, one EU nation that has refused to recognize Kosovo for fear it will encourage its own pro-independence movements.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:54:16 PM EST
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Moscow condemns EU plans for Kosovo police mission | World news | guardian.co.uk

Russia today condemned EU plans to send a police mission to Kosovo as contravening international law amid heightened tension on the Kosovo-Serbia border.

The EU is expected to deploy a 2,000-strong police contingent by June to oversee training and institution-building, with limited rights to intervene to fight organised crime and corruption or hunt war criminals.

"The EU's unilateral decision to send a mission [to Kosovo] is in breach of the highest international law," the Russian foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, told reporters in Moscow.

Russia, an ally of Belgrade, has strongly opposed Kosovo's declaration of independence on the grounds that it sets a dangerous precedent for other secessionist movements around the world.

Nato provides the backbone of security in Kosovo with its 17,000-strong Kfor force, which yesterday intervened to secure Kosovo's northern borders after demonstrations by ethnic Serbs.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:56:48 PM EST
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An ethnic standoff in northern Kosovo - International Herald Tribune

CABRA, Kosovo: A mob of 300 Serbs carrying Serbian flags and wielding clubs and tools gathered on a road near this small ethnic-Albanian village in northern Kosovo on Wednesday, prompting NATO to send armored vehicles and tanks to head them off.

Earlier, Albanian police officers, part of Kosovo's multiethnic police force, were forced out of the neighboring Serbian village, where they were patrolling with fellow Serbs. It was the latest sign that Serbs in Kosovo, incensed by the declaration of independence Sunday, are trying to assert control over the northern part of Kosovo in an attempt to force partition.

Elsewhere, NATO peacekeepers closed off roads between Serbia and northern Kosovo and United Nations police officers guarded checkpoints still smoldering after they were burned down Tuesday by several hundred Serbs in what the police said appeared to be an organized operation, The Associated Press reported.

Indicating that the violence could be a prelude to partition, the Serbian minister for Kosovo, Metohija Slobodan Samardzic, said the destruction of the UN checkpoints was in line with Belgrade's policies. "It might not be pleasant, but it is legitimate," he said, adding that Serbia would be seeking to enlarge its jurisdiction over northern Kosovo, which he said already included education, culture and health.

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:57:57 PM EST
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Foreigners 'must pass language test to marry a Briton' - Times Online

Thousands of foreigners who want to marry a British person and move to this country will have to take an English language test, the Prime Minister said today in a surprise announcement that appeared to pre-empt a government consultation.

Gordon Brown said that the new test would help to prevent foreign brides being exploited.

Mr Brown made the announcement only five hours after a Home Office Green Paper on overhauling citizenship rules said that consultations on English tests for foreign brides were still continuing.

The Prime Minister said in a speech in north London:"We will introduce a new English language requirement for those applying for a marriage visa and planning to settle in the UK - both as part of our determination that everyone who comes here to live should be able to speak English and to make sure that they cannot be exploited."

[Murdoch Alert]
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:54:46 PM EST
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Migrants must pay a tax to enter UK - Telegraph

Foreigners coming to Britain are to face a new "immigrant tax" under Government plans to try to make them help pay for the schools and hospitals they use, ministers are to announce.

  • Your view: What should be the criteria for getting a British passport?
  • They will have to pay a special levy on entering the country which will be used to provide extra funding for public services.

    The announcement follows growing evidence that health, education and social services are coming under increasing strain from immigration, with councils complaining that they need hundreds of millions of pounds more every year to cope.

    Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, will announce that those immigrants assessed to be more of a burden on the state will have to pay a higher levy.

    It means older applicants - who are likely to need more health care for example - will pay more than young, skilled workers.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:56:09 PM EST
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    German steelworkers win pay increase - International Herald Tribune

    PARIS: Steelworkers of the German union IG Metall won a 5.2 percent pay increase Wednesday in a deal that could set the tone for a season of wage negotiations and complicate the European Central Bank's job of balancing inflationary pressures and growth concerns.

    Oliver Burkhard, the IG Metall leader in the northwestern state of North Rhine-Westphalia, called it the best result in 15 years, and said it was only possible because of the union's willingness to strike.

    Behind the headline figure, though, the deal underscores how difficult it has become for European unions to obtain wage increases that keep pace with prices. With food and energy costs pushing inflation in the euro zone to 3.2 percent last month, the central bank chief, Jean-Claude Trichet, and his colleagues are worried that too-high wage deals would only aggravate the problem. The bank has threatened to respond by raising interest rates to get inflation down to its target of under 2 percent. But economists on the Continent are now cutting their growth forecasts in the face of a slowdown in the United States, and they expect the ECB to cut interest rates later this year, according to a Reuters survey Tuesday.

    After a long period of "wage moderation," momentum would seem to be with the unions now. The number of Germans working is at record levels, while the unemployment rate is the lowest in nearly 15 years. IG Metall, the biggest union, has declared 2008 a "mega wage year."

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:57:14 PM EST
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    Calls for inquiry into alleged 'profiteering' of energy giants - Home News, UK - Independent.co.uk

    British Gas, the country's biggest energy supplier, is expected to announce a 500 per cent rise in profits today, fuelling outrage among consumer groups which claim the public is being ripped off by the industry.

    Centrica, the parent company of British Gas, will tell the Stock Exchange that the BG retail arm, which receives up to five times as many complaints as its rivals, made almost £600m profit in 2007.

    Most of the money was made between January and March, when the wholesale price of gas plunged as a result of unusually mild weather and a new gas pipeline from Norway.

    During those three months, BG's bosses kept prices high, earning what one analyst has described as "absolutely extraordinary" profits.

    Yesterday, there were fresh calls for an official inquiry into whether the "Big Six" energy companies have been profiteering and plunging low earners into choosing whether they eat or heat their homes.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:00:11 AM EST
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    And they still are protesting that our market has the cheapest energy costs in europe.

    Can anyone put some flesh on that please ?

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:04:00 AM EST
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    Biggest brain drain from UK in 50 years - Telegraph

    Britain is experiencing the worst "brain drain" of any country as highly qualified professionals settle abroad, an authoritative international study showed yesterday.

  • Your view: How can we halt the brain drain?
  • Record numbers of Britons are leaving - many of them doctors, teachers and engineers - in the biggest exodus for almost 50 years.

    There are now 3.247 million British-born people living abroad, of whom more than 1.1 million are highly-skilled university graduates, say the researchers.

    More than three quarters of these professionals have settled abroad for more than 10 years, according to the study by the Organisation of Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD).

    No other nation is losing so many qualified people, it points out. Britain has now lost more than one in 10 of its most skilled citizens, while overall only Mexico has had more people emigrate.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:02:05 AM EST
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    How can this be true? It's Torygraph brain-drain propaganda, as in : Greatest brain-drain propaganda article in Torygraph for 50 years.

    The only recent OECD report is on immigration not emigration, but that must be the one they're referring to (not available online).

    Anyway, the facts, as we all know, are that Britain's vibrant full-employment service-based economy offers dazzling prospects for the skilled and highly-qualified. No one can possibly believe the UK has the highest expatriation rate in the OECD bar Mexico. I'm sure I don't.

    When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 03:31:00 AM EST
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    Of course, the blame is put squarely where it belongs:
    Damian Green, the shadow immigration minister, said: "Ten years of Labour has re-created the brain drain. High taxes and Government interference are driving people away."

    Also, note where people are emigrating to:
    The most popular destinations are English-speaking countries such as Australia, America, Canada and New Zealand and holiday areas including France and Spain.
    That is, anglo-countries of economic dynamism which has not been soiled by nasty leftist policies, and those other two that can be in there only as 'holiday areas', not economic entities. After all, why would anyone move to work in moribund, scelerotic, stagnated backwaters such as those?
    by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 03:53:49 AM EST
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    I've mentioned this before - I briefly looked at getting a job in the UK as an electrical engineer. The pay being offered was significantly lower in an absolute dollar/pound ssense compared to what I can get in the US, and with the cost of living being higher in the UK the pay is effectively even less. It looks to me like the UK only respects people working in the financial / MBA realm.

    you are the media you consume.

    by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 03:40:20 PM EST
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    It has little to do with taxation and a lot to do with stagnating wages and lousy quality of life.

     We are all noticing, with the exception of the already very well off, that we are all getting noticeably poorer. Most employment is in the S E England, which is turning into a foul over crowded hell hole. Those who can, go : Those who can't, wish they could.

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:07:33 AM EST
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    Germany Demands Greater Transparency From Liechtenstein | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 20.02.2008
    Chancellor Angela Merkel demanded greater insight into German investments in the tiny Alpine principality during a Berlin visit by Liechtenstein's Prime Minister Otmar Hasler, amid an ever-widening tax evasion scandal.

    Chancellor Merkel, speaking at a joint news conference after talks on Wednesday, Feb. 20, with Liechtenstein's Prime Minister Otmar Hasler in Berlin, said the meeting was "constructive" and stressed that she not given the principality any ultimatums, but said she expected action.

     

    "Time is of the essence," Merkel said. "The faster action is taken, the better the basis for good relations."

     

    However, the chancellor criticized Liechtenstein's banking secrecy and said she expected an agreement giving Berlin insight into German investments in the Alpine tax haven.

     

    "What is possible with the United States should be possible with the European Union," Merkel told reporters. 

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:07:15 AM EST
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    So Liechtenstein gets a kicking, so the evasion industry goes to Switzerland or UK or Seychelles or a 1000 other little loopholes in the law which are demanded by the global plutocracy.

    It either gets stomped by global action or we're stuffed.

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:09:20 AM EST
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    European Parliament Ratifies Lisbon Treaty Despite Protests | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 20.02.2008
    The European Parliament on Wednesday voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Lisbon Treaty, which reforms the European Union's institutions. There were, however, some protests from Euroskeptics demanding referenda.

    Parliamentarians endorsed the treaty by 525-115 with 29 abstentions. European Commission Vice President Margot Wallstrom told lawmakers that the agreement signed by heads of state and government in the Portuguese capital last December "strengthens Europe's democratic legitimacy".

    All 27 EU member states must individually ratify the wide-ranging text for it to come into effect by next year, as scheduled. But only Ireland is constitutionally bound to put it to a plebiscite. The governments of France, Hungary, Malta, Romania and Slovenia have already approved the document on behalf of their citizens.

    Euroskeptics accuse the EU leaders of refusing to give citizens a say on a text that is practically identical to the draft European consitution already rejected by French and Dutch voters in referenda in 2005.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:08:41 AM EST
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    MEPs vote in favour of EU treaty - EUobserver.com
    EUOBSERVER / STRASBOURG - Deputies in the European Parliament have voted strongly in favour of the EU's latest treaty, endorsing a report saying the new document will make the EU more democratic, give EU citizens more rights and improve the day-to-day working of the 27-nation bloc.

    Adopted on Wednesday (20 February) by 532 votes in favour, 115 against and 29 abstentions, the three-hour long debate preceding it ranged from those strongly in favour of the treaty to those accusing member states of bypassing EU citizens by not having a referendum.

    Reacting to the vote, Spanish centre-right MEP Inigo Mendez de Vigo who drew up the report on the treaty for the parliament said he was "extremely pleased with the result" and spoke of the EU's assembly's "political impulse" for member states who are currently ratifying the treaty.

    He said that Europe had shown "that it can find a solution" referring to the fact that the bloc got itself out of the institutional impasse resulting in the French and Dutch rejection of the original EU constitution almost three years ago.
    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:15:10 AM EST
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    The EP has no place in the "ratification" process. Maybe "endorse" would be a better term? What exactly is the resolution that was voted?

    We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:37:37 AM EST
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    Sarkozy struggles to contain worker unrest | World news | The Guardian

    The French government is working to contain a wave of factory strikes by private-sector workers not normally known for taking to the barricades, including ice-cream makers, supermarket staff, hairdressers and L'Oréal employees.

    Factory staff have taken increasingly hardline measures, with some holding their managers hostage for days over plant closures and job cuts.

    This week the tyre giant Michelin continued talks over the closure of a plant in Toul, eastern France, after a government-appointed mediator secured the release of two managers whom workers had locked in a room for three days. It follows an incident last month when workers outraged at planned job cuts at the Miko ice-cream factory in Saint-Dizier locked up their British manager, Prakash Patel.

    This week, staff at a Ford plant near Bordeaux blockaded their factory and L'Oréal cosmetics staff took to the streets under the banner "because we're worth it", asking for pay rises after their company's good financial results.

    Unions from plants making products including skis, glass and steel also raised the spectre of job cuts and closures. One logistics firm in the Landes caused controversy yesterday by offering staff €1,000 (£756) if they promised not to strike. Around half accepted, but unions denounced the sweeteners as anti-democratic.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:12:33 AM EST
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    Eight EU states clash with Brussels over energy liberalisation - EUobserver.com
    EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - An alternative to the European Commission's plan to liberalise the EU's energy sector put forward by eight member states is running into difficulty, with Brussels questioning both the content and legal aspects of the initiative.

    The proposal was formally handed to the commission and the Slovenian EU presidency at the end of January, with the backing of Austria, Bulgaria, Greece, Germany, France, Latvia, Luxembourg and Slovakia.

    Dubbed the third alternative, it is looking for a different way to achieve the commission's aim of separating energy companies' production and supply wings.

    Currently, it is being dealt with in the so-called working group for energy.

    During the latest discussion, the commission said that the member states' proposal did not meet criteria outlined by the EU leaders summit in March last year, sources told EUobserver.
    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:16:47 AM EST
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    Iran opposition group accuses EU of 'appeasement' - EUobserver.com
    A leading Iranian exiled opposition group claimed on Wednesday (20 February) it has evidence that the Iranian government is still engaged in the development of nuclear weapons.

    "The Iranian regime is undoubtedly developing the nuclear bomb," said Mohammad Mohaddessin, the chairperson of the foreign affairs committee of the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) at a Brussels press conference.

    After offering details of what they claim is an ongoing nuclear weapons programme, including satellite photographs of two previously uncovered sites, Mr Mohaddessin then lashed out at European policy toward Iran, accusing the EU of appeasement.

    Referring to the "huge trade" between Europe and Iran, Mr Mohaddessin said: "The EU is trying to achieve security through appeasing the Iranian regime."
    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:17:36 AM EST
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    Hhmmm...supposed evidence of an active WMD programme, accusations of appeasement...sounds vaguely familiar.

    "The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
    by NordicStorm on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 05:12:48 AM EST
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    Juicy!

    British Iraq Dossier Surfaces, Without Crucial Weapons Claim - New York Times

    An early version of a British dossier of prewar intelligence on Iraq did not include a claim about unconventional weapons that became crucial to Prime Minister Tony Blair's case for war, the newly published document showed Monday.

    The document, from 2002, says Saddam Hussein's government acquired uranium and had equipment necessary for chemical weapons, but it does not include a claim that Iraq could launch chemical or biological weapons within 45 minutes of an order to use them. That statement, later discredited, became central to Mr. Blair's case for supporting the American-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

    Critics of his policy contend that the 45-minute claim was inserted into later drafts of the document on the orders of Mr. Blair's press advisers, who were seeking to strengthen the case for invasion -- an accusation the government has strongly denied.

    Foreign Secretary David Miliband, who published the intelligence document on Monday after a request filed under freedom of information laws, said the early draft -- produced by John Williams, then the chief of the Foreign Office press office -- was not used as the basis for later documents, drafted by the Joint Intelligence Committee.

    Revealed: the first draft of dossier that took Britain to war - UK Politics, UK - Independent.co.uk

    Fresh evidence that the Iraq weapons dossier was "sexed up" emerged as the Government finally published the secret first draft of the document.

    As expected, the earliest version of the document did not include the now notorious claim that Saddam Hussein could launch weapons of mass destruction within 45 minutes of an order to do so.

    The first draft made a series of lurid claims about the extent and danger of the Iraqi president's weapons arsenal. But those were expressed in even stronger terms by September 2002, when the official dossier on which Tony Blair based the case for war was published.

    Ministers had fought a three-year battle to stop the confidential initial draft from being released, but last month lost an appeal against a ruling that it should be disclosed under the Freedom of Information Act.

    Iraq weapons dossier draft reveals role of 'spin doctor' | Politics | The Guardian

    Fresh evidence that a senior government press officer was closely involved in drawing up the government's discredited Iraq weapons dossier, despite official denials, was revealed yesterday.

    A document the Foreign Office tried to suppress shows that John Williams, its director of communications at the time, had access to secret intelligence as he prepared an early draft in 2002.

    The document suggests that Williams, a former Sunday Mirror political editor, used the same sources as the Joint Intelligence Committee, chaired by Sir John Scarlett, which produced the government's final dossier. Though there are striking similarities, Williams's draft does not contain the claim that Iraq could launch a chemical warfare weapon in 45 minutes - a claim central to the prime minister's case for war.

    The 45-minute claim was made later, and subsequently withdrawn.

    The FO fought to suppress the Williams draft. The information tribunal ordered its release, observing that it may have played a bigger role in influencing the dossier than previously supposed.

    BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | How significant is early WMD draft?

    Those who have sought access to the 30-page John Williams draft dossier have long argued that its existence and contents would show that so-called spin doctors were more heavily involved in the process of drawing up the final September dossier than the government has previously admitted.

    In a statement released with the draft, the Foreign Secretary David Miliband said that the John Williams document was not commissioned as part of the formal drafting process and was not used as the basis for the dossier the government subsequently published.

    That dossier, the government argues, was begun later in September under the control of John Scarlett, then chair of the Joint Intelligence Committee.

    It was, it has always been maintained, the product of a fresh start rather than a reworking of previous drafts.

    FT.com / Home UK / UK - Renewed calls for Iraq war probe

    Opposition parties renewed calls for an inquiry into the origins of the Iraq war yesterday as the government published a contentious early draft of the dossier on Iraq's alleged weapons programmes.

    Report: U.K. gov't hid reference to Israel on Iraq weapons dossier - Haaretz - Israel News

    The British newspaper The Guardian reported Thursday that the Foreign Office in London had successfully managed to conceal a reference to Israel in a September 2002 document on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, fearing harm to bilateral ties.

    The Guardian says that the word "Israel" was handwritten next to a statement in the "now discredited" dossier which said that "no other country [apart from Iraq] has flouted the United Nations' authority so brazenly in pursuit of weapons of mass destruction."

    According to The Guardian, "a senior Foreign Office official" says that the move was aimed at preventing any damage to relations between Israel and the United Kingdom.

    New Statesman - It's official: Blair's government set out to deceive us about Iraq

    In July 2003, in the week following the death of David Kelly, a reader contacted the New Statesman and suggested that the media were missing the obvious. The Commons foreign affairs committee had just cleared the government of "sexing up" the September 2002 dossier on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction - a claim, first made by Andrew Gilligan on the BBC's Today programme, for which Dr Kelly may or may not have been the source.

    Our caller pointed out that although the Commons committee had said it was satisfied the "first" draft dossier, produced on 10 September for a meeting of the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC), was the unspun work of intelligence, it had missed the true significance of a meeting the day before, chaired by Alastair Campbell.

    Our caller was Chris Ames, whose name will for ever be etched on the memory of all those in government, particularly in the Foreign Office, who have resisted making public what has become known as the Williams draft (after John Williams, the Foreign Office press officer who wrote it). Using the Freedom of Information Act, Ames has doggedly pursued the evidence that he believed would show that the September dossier was the work not of intelligence experts, but of spin doctors whose intention was to "sex up" the known intelligence.

    How Labour used the law to keep criticism of Israel secret | Politics | The Guardian

    The full extent of government anxiety about the state of British-Israel relations can be exposed for the first time today in a secret document seen by the Guardian.

    The document reveals how the Foreign Office successfully fought to keep secret any mention of Israel contained on the first draft of the controversial, now discredited Iraq weapons dossier. At the heart of it was nervousness at the top of government about any mention of Israel's nuclear arsenal in an official paper accusing Iraq of flouting the UN's authority on weapons of mass destruction.

    The dossier was made public this week, but the Foreign Office succeeded before a tribunal in having the handwritten mention of Israel kept secret.

    The FO never argued that the information would damage national security. The Guardian has seen the full text and a witness statement from a senior Foreign Office official, who argued behind closed doors that any public mention of the candid reference would seriously damage UK/Israeli relations. In the statement, he reveals that in the past five years there have been 10 substantial incidents and 20 more minor ones relating to Israeli concerns about attitudes to their government within Whitehall.

    by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 05:40:40 AM EST
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    It's one of the things I find increasingly hard to understand. We all knew that the "dossier" was a load of bullshit, assertions and exagerrations. Jeez, the plagiarised a 10 year old undergraduate thesis as part of their argument.

    Yet, the very same liars and hoodwinkers who dreamed up this cobblers suddenly became precisely legalistic and literal minded when we sought to challenge their fantasies. The meaning of "is" became the least of our worries as that bullying propagandist Herman Goebbels Alistair Campbell sought to fight off any suggestion that we had been lied to or been sold a crock of shit for political convenience.

    Fitting the facts around the policy wasn't just going on in the White House, No 10 was manufacturing truth like it was going out of fashion (Truth ? How quaint). Over 100 British soldiers have died for this government's lies and desperate grovelling to the USA, countless others injured and maimed. Let alone however many Iraqis have suffered because of our complicity (and Afghanis from our neglect).

    And then Campell lectures the rest of us on our corrosive cynicism.

    Their blood is on their hands. Cambell, Blair, Hoon,. Straw, Brown & Scarlett. J'Accuse

    And now they're saying that maybe, maybe, a couple of rendition flights might have stopped on British soil...at diego Garcia. So those pictures of the flights at Prestwick are still figments of our imagination are they ? Fucking lying bastards,. Every fucking one of 'em.

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:01:59 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    While Daniel Cohn-Bendit continues to advocate an SPD-Greens minority government with Left Party outside support, the SPD chose to air a trial balloon in the same direction.

    Earlier this week, a newspaper wrote an article claiming the SPD wants the minority government option. In a first rection, the SPD did NOT deny it. (They did today.)

    I think that's a trial balloon, with two goals: (1) to test how the idea is received (it was received with outrage from conservatives), and (2) to make the neoliberal FDP feel queasy and more willing to consider an SPD-Greens-SPD "traffic lights" coalition.

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

    by DoDo on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:05:22 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    WORLD
    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:37:54 PM EST
    The World from Berlin: 'America's Current Cuba Policy Is a Dead End' - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

    Reform in Cuba may have to wait awhile, even though Fidel Castro has retired. The economy will hobble along for at least another year, when a US presidential election stands to bring change. German commentators look ahead on Wednesday.

     What next for Cuba? The resignation of Cuban President Fidel Castro on Tuesday had more play in the international press than it did in the streets of Havana, where ordinary Cubans just got on with their lives. Castro's temporary cession of power in July 2006 to his brother Raúl was reportedly more dramatic, when it seemed to Cubans that el máximo líder might die any moment. But the news that Raúl would probably keep his job excited almost no one in Cuba. Castro's long goodbye has bored his people.

    Conventional wisdom says nothing will change under Raúl, but German papers on Wednesday see room for something new -- if not in Havana then maybe in Washington, D.C. President George W. Bush implied on Tuesday that the crippling US embargo on Cuba would remain in place as long as anything resembling the Castro regime remained in power. That surpised no one in Havana, either. But Bush will be gone in a year.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:46:27 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Cuba too big a prize for meddling US to resist - Opinion - smh.com.au

    How dramatic a change Fidel Castro's retirement as president of Cuba represents for the island itself, for Latin America and for the world, could depend less on how the Cubans now behave than on decisions originating in the White House.

    Since the end of the Cold War Castro and the Cuban leadership have maintained their historic socialist commitments but with a pragmatic adaptation to the new global realities forced upon them by the collapse of the Soviet Union. This has meant a selective opening of the Cuban economy to market forces and the rejection of revolutionary adventurism in favour of a foreign policy based on appropriate state-to-state relations.

    While the authoritarian structures have not been dismantled - for which Castro bears a share of responsibility - the absence of political reform must be viewed in the context of a hostile and destabilising United States intent on reigning the island back into its sphere of influence.

    Left to its own devices, post-Castro Cuba would probably evolve into a social democracy - one of the few genuine social democracies in Latin America - intent on preserving its national independence and little more. It would, in other words, probably become for the first time in 50 years a non-issue in regional and global affairs. But the question is whether Cuba will be left to its own devices. Every US president since Eisenhower has sought to "win back" Cuba. George Bush is no exception.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:52:04 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    I'm not even an armchair expert on the topic, but I don't think any President will be able to change current Cuban policy. It's too entrenched institutionally.

    you are the media you consume.

    by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 03:45:38 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | US missile hits 'toxic satellite'
    The US has successfully struck a disabled spy satellite with a missile fired from a warship in waters west of Hawaii, military officials say.

    Military operatives had only a 10-second window to hit the satellite - USA 193 - which lost control shortly after it was launched in December 2006.

    Officials said they were worried fuel on board could pose a threat to humans.

    But Russia suspects the operation was a cover to test anti-satellite technology under the US missile defence programme.

    The US denies the operation was a response to an anti-satellite test carried out by China last year, which prompted fears of a space arms race.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:02:21 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    As Scout Finch said on dKos

    Our zillion dollar "star wars" technology is clearly capable of stopping incoming missiles so long as: they come one at a time, are the size of a school bus, travel in orbits that have been calculated for months, don't deploy any decoys, and the weather is clear.

    And Poland is buying this stuff ?? Man, those Yankee carpetbaggers are good

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:16:59 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    How Labour used the law to keep criticism of Israel secret | Politics | The Guardian

    The document reveals how the Foreign Office successfully fought to keep secret any mention of Israel contained on the first draft of the controversial, now discredited Iraq weapons dossier. At the heart of it was nervousness at the top of government about any mention of Israel's nuclear arsenal in an official paper accusing Iraq of flouting the UN's authority on weapons of mass destruction.

    The dossier was made public this week, but the Foreign Office succeeded before a tribunal in having the handwritten mention of Israel kept secret.

    The FO never argued that the information would damage national security. The Guardian has seen the full text and a witness statement from a senior Foreign Office official, who argued behind closed doors that any public mention of the candid reference would seriously damage UK/Israeli relations. In the statement, he reveals that in the past five years there have been 10 substantial incidents and 20 more minor ones relating to Israeli concerns about attitudes to their government within Whitehall.

    The Information Tribunal, which adjudicates on disputes involving the Freedom of Information Act, agreed to remove the single reference to Israel when it ordered the release of the draft of the Iraqi weapons dossier written by John Williams, the FO's chief information officer at the time.



    When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 01:27:28 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Britain has its aipac-like group who ensure that money goes to those most Likud/Israel Beitenu-friendly. And Tony was always all about the money.

    keep to the Fen Causeway
    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:13:35 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Democrats abroad primary results:

    Biden 0.1%

    Clinton 32.7%

    Edwards 0.7%

    Kucinich 0.6%

    Obama 65.6%

    Richardson 0.1%

    Uncommitted 0.2%

    That somehow translates to 2.5 delegate votes (i.e. 5 delegates) for Obama and 2 delegate votes (i.e. 4 delegates) for Clinton. In addition there are 8 superdelegates with 4 superdelegate votes.

    In more detail, Clinton won by a landslide in the Dominican Republic (90.3% to 9.7%), and won in the Philippines and Israel. Apart from a few really tiny places (as far as voting numbers goes), Obama won everywhere else.

    The one expat in Liechtenstein voted for Clinton.

    You can find the full details here. It might be interesting to look for any patterns of internet vs. in-person voting.

    by gk (g k quattro due due sette "at" gmail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:18:18 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER
    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:38:56 PM EST
    Miraculix in Essex? Possible Druid Grave Enchants Archaeologists - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

    Druids belong to the realm of myth -- archaeologists have never been able to prove their existence. But now researchers in England have uncovered the grave of a powerful, ancient healer. Was he a druid?

    There's a joke among archaeologists: Two of their kind, in the future, find a present-day public toilet. "We've discovered a holy site!" cries one. "Look, it has two separate entrances," says the other. "This here," he says, pointing to the door with a pictogram of a woman, "was for priests. This is evident by the figure wearing a long garment."

    eologists: There are things they simply can't prove. The list includes love, hate, fear, desire and, well, faith. Which hasn't stopped many reports from being written about who loved or hated whom in ancient cultures -- who was threatened by what, who tried to win something else.

    Philip Crummy is an archaeologist who tries not to pass off ancient toilets for holy sites. But lately the director of the Colchester Archaeological Trust has been pulling a number of artifacts from the ground near the site of an ancient city, Camulodunum, that would tempt any archaeologist to speculate, at least a little. Crummy has stumbled upon a small cemetery about 4.5 kilometers (2.8 miles) southwest of present-day Colchester. The dead were all buried between the years 40 and 60 AD. For a cemetery that's a short lifespan; but in Britain it's an important period, because in the year 43 AD the island became a Roman colony.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:45:25 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    They evidently didn't watch Chelmsford 123

    keep to the Fen Causeway
    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:23:41 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Drawn Out: Danish Caricaturist of Muhammad Fame Now Homeless - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

    Two years ago Kurt Westergaard was in his Copenhagen home drawing pictures. One of them was of the Muslim prophet, Muhammad. Now Westergaard is homeless.

     Protesters took to the streets again on Wednesday to protest the reprinting of Muhammad cartoons. Draw a picture offensive to Muslim extremists, and you might find yourself without a roof. Ask Kurt Westergaard, one of the twelve Danish cartoonists whose autumn 2005 Muhammad caricatures lead to violent protests throughout the Muslim world. He was booted from his police-protected hotel room on Feb. 15 for being "too much of a security risk." And now the 73-year-old cartoonist and his wife are without a place to live.

    Westergaard was forced to leave his actual residence in November after the Danish security and intelligence agency, PET, informed him of a "concrete" plan to murder him, according to the paper that originally published the cartoons, Jyllands-Posten. Westergaard and his wife have been living under police protection since.

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:50:17 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    I'm sure that many moderate muslims are correct when they say that Islqam is a religion of tolerance and peace. But they really shouldn't be surprised if we draw different conclusions from stuff like this.

    And yes, I am aware that Christian terrorists kill abortion doctors, protest US soldier's funerals. But these people are numbered in their 10s. The Danish muslims who caused this are in 100s & 1000s.

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:19:50 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    But these people are numbered in their 10s. The Danish muslims who caused this are in 100s & 1000s.

    Do you have any evidence for either side of that statement?
    by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 09:47:40 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Evidence ? No. As these epeople are often engaged in activity which might be considered suspect by authorities it's difficult to keep track. Especially as those pronouncements by legal authorities are themselves subject to politically convenient adjustments.

    However the Danish Cartoons wikipedia page makes sobvering reading. There haven't been equivalents to that level of imminent danger to life and property in the Christian world for several hundred years. The US anti-abortionists/Ken Phelps groups couldn't even dream of those levels of mayhem in support of their delusions.

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 11:45:53 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    There haven't been equivalents to that level of imminent danger to life and property in the Christian world for several hundred years.

    You mean, when theaters showing The last temptation of the Christ were being bombed ? That's two decades ago, not hundred of years.


    Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

    by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 11:57:32 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    theaters ? The wiki only speaks of one incident.

    I'd hardly say that in any way shape or form that resembles the mass hysterias whipped up by the Danish cartoons or the other superstitious nonsenses of Middle Ages europe.

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 01:16:34 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Uh, news flash:  A Christian fundamentalist who happens to be the commander-in-chief of the most powerful conventional military on the planet is responsible for the violent deaths of an estimated 81,467 to 88,933 civilians since 2004.  But please, let's keep talking about those nasty Muslims, they're the bad guys.  And better yet, let's do it in sweeping terms that blame the majority for the actions of a few on the fringe.  Peachy.

    I have seen no evidence of any sort that there are "hundreds and thousands" of Danish Muslims who are plotting to kill the cartoonists, which is what you've claimed here.  If you're going to make an allegation like that (effectively saying that terrorists compose a sizable percentage of the Danish Muslim community, which numbers only about 270,000) then yes, you will need to produce some evidence.

    In the meantime, read this.

    by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 01:22:19 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    No !! Emphjatically no. I admit error in allowing that interpretation but that ain't what I meant and I'm disappointed that after all the discussions we've had that you believe that was my intent.

    There are certainly disparate groups in Denmark who have murderous intent against him, but what freaked the cartoonist out was that he was seeing hundreds and thousands of muslims out on the street in protests at what he'd done. Given that there were people calling for his blood in those demoes and I didn't see anybody turn around and protest "I say, aren't you taking this all a bit too far". No, instead they flaming well joined in. Given the fact that there were people plotting against his life, that'd freak me out and I'm sure it did him too.

    As for your other point I fail to see the relevance. Cos I see a racist colonialism there, but I see no religious eliminationism. Maybe you know something I don't.

    keep to the Fen Causeway

    by Helen (lareinagal at yahoo dot co dot uk) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 04:31:43 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Helen, I didn't want to think that's what you meant, but it is what you said -- that hundreds or thousands of Danish Muslims caused this man to fear for his life, directly equating them with Christian terrorists -- and it doesn't look like I was the only one to read it that way.

    I didn't see anybody turn around and protest "I say, aren't you taking this all a bit too far".

    Well, I did.  I heard nothing but shock and horror from Lebanese of all religious backgrounds after the Danish embassy in Beirut was attacked.

    Regarding my last point, you had compared Christian terrorists with Danish Muslims and seemed to be implying that because there are (allegedly) fewer Christian terrorists than there are violent, angry, fire-setting, cartoonist-threatening Muslims, the former is somehow less threatening than the latter.  I was simply trying to point out that religious terrorism can have many definitions.

    by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 04:57:18 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Sorry, make that "regarding my first point."  Oops.
    by the stormy present (stormypresent aaaaaaat gmail etc) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 04:58:17 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    He was booted from his police-protected hotel room on Feb. 15 for being "too much of a security risk."

    This is reminiscent of the troubles Ayaan Hirsi Ali encountered trying to maintain a "safe house". If I remember correctly, her neighbours complained that she put them in danger.

    I don't remember what happened with Salman Rushdie's security arrangements in the UK, does anyone know?

    We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo

    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 01:38:56 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Nothing, he moved to New York. But the despicable attacks on him for "making expenses for the British state" and for not shutting up in that position were along similar lines.

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
    by DoDo on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 02:37:45 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Did he move because he got tired of moving every 3 days? And what is it that makes the US safer (also apparently the case of Hirsi Ali)?

    We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
    by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 03:03:57 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    No, he got fed up with said criticisms, and thought that he is anynymous enough in the Big Apply as compared with London. But, to my knowledge, since Iran semi-withdrew the fatwa, he is travelling around the world much more freely. (I missed getting his autograph here in Budapest a few weeks ago due to time constraints.)

    *Traitor*, n.
    A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
    by DoDo on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 03:06:35 PM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Alternet: Michael Pollan Debunks Food Myths

    The human digestive tract has about the same number of neurons as the spinal column. What are they there for? The final word isn't in yet, but Michael Pollan thinks their existence suggests that digestion may be more than the rather mundane process of breaking down food into chemicals. And, keeping those numerous digestive neurons in mind, Pollan's new book In Defense of Food: An Eater's Manifesto entreaties us to follow our knowledgeable guts when it comes to figuring out what to eat.

    Nutrition science and the food industry have been changing their minds about what Americans should eat for years. Low fat, no fat, low carb, high protein. In In Defense of Food, Pollan argues that all of these fixations amount to a uniquely American disease: orthorexia -- an unhealthy obsession with eating. And as statistics on diabetes and obesity can attest, obsessing doesn't seem to be getting us anywhere. Pollan takes the reader on a journey through the science of food and reveals how it is that we've ignored our guts and followed the ever-changing tune of food science. At once a scathing indictment of the food industry, and a call for a return to real food, Pollan's latest book reveals how Americans have been dangerously misled into adopting "low fat" as a fundamental food mantra, and how most of the products on our supermarket shelves should be called "imitation."

    Another Michael Pollan interview, still very interesting, particularly this part:

    OR: The industry spin isn't especially vague or nuanced -- you cite a trade magazine called the Packer, in which an author asserts that declining nutrients in foods is good news because it just means people will have to eat more food.

    MP: You realize that they can spin anything. If the nutritional content of carrots has gone down, that just means that people are going to need to eat three carrots instead of one. I'm full of admiration for the ingenuity of capitalism. It can turn any mess it creates into a wonderful, new business.

    So people have to eat more to get the nutrients... but that means they'll take in more calories... so they'll gain weight... which means they then have to attempt a weight loss program... which means there will be more of a market for fad diets... which means cutting down on food but then not getting enough nutrients, so the vitamin/supplement industry will expand... and all these industries will make more profits off of the fact that our food is no longer nutritious... trying desperately not to see conspiracy theories....

    "You can't be a successful crook with a dishonest face, now, can you?" -The Fourth Doctor

    by lychee (lychee9393 A yahoo D com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 01:31:59 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    So people have to eat more to get the nutrients... but that means they'll take in more calories... so they'll gain weight... which means they then have to attempt a weight loss program...

    yes, yes, yes and yes.

    which means there will be more of a market for fad diets... which means cutting down on food but then not getting enough nutrients, so the vitamin/supplement industry will expand...

    yes, yes and...the phoney supplement biz will flower, but it has become much harder to find non-synthetic mega C, which Linus Pauling received the Nobel prize for in his work.

    now if you'd said big pharma...

    and all these industries will make more profits off of the fact that our food is no longer nutritious

    oh yes....and unrefined brown rice costs more than refined, soymilk costs more than animal milk, tofu costs more than some meat.

    trying desperately not to see conspiracy theories....

    i don't know why you should work so hard, other than in finding, fresh, good, nutritious, reasonably priced food.

    it's a disgusting scam, that hopefully will be increasingly difficult to keep pulling off.

    the pain, disease, social malaise, crime and immense waste of resources dealing with the knock-on effects are tragically sapping both to genotype and treasury.

    Peace is not the absence of war -- peace is the absence of fear. Ursula Franklin

    by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 06:14:15 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    KLATSCH
    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 20th, 2008 at 11:39:31 PM EST
    Ahhh, hope this day will be better than it started. First, autofran didn't get up and then many websites I use as sources were down and some still are.

    But still, a nice day to you all!

    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:21:33 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Is it just me, or are there others who can't see the pictures on ET - and many sites are still not loading or very slow.
    by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 12:54:04 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    It's all OK for me at the moment.

    When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 01:13:36 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    not surprised that autofran needs her circuits ripped out and replaced if you ask me but no one does <flash skrr beep>

    When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
    by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Feb 21st, 2008 at 01:16:11 AM EST
    [ Parent ]
    Well, I've been thinking about skill vs convenience and what that means about "a decent lifestyle" and happiness and dignity and stuff like that...  continuing the whole "travelling light" and "the utility of lite" train of thought.

    The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
    by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Fri Feb 22nd, 2008 at 03:24:18 AM EST
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