Infraguard

by geezer in Paris
Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 01:08:45 PM EST

This is not a put-on, a spoof, or a joke.
Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does--and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to "shoot to kill" in the event of martial law.
InfraGard is "a child of the FBI," says Michael Hershman, the chairman of the advisory board of the InfraGard National Members Alliance and CEO of the Fairfax Group, an international consulting firm.

From Progressive magazine:
http://www.progressive.org/mag_rothschild0308


For decades, perhaps centuries, police forces have been kept separate from the societies they are supposed to police. The traditional procedure for creating an effective "instrument of national discipline" was
taught to the police and military of the US' tame dictators at the "University of the Americas", at Ft. Huachuka, Arizona, ---and now at Ft. Benning, under a different name. But it was well known to sleasy dictators and "democratic Republics" alike long before. Think brown shirts:

Some elements:

-Perceived privelege, and it's concomitant sense of superiority: "We're with the High Command"--perceived elite status.

-Isolation from larger culture, with managed communications, separate recreation, vacation, cultural facilities, etc.  

-a created "Company Culture" of suspicion- the sense that those crazy civilians/foreigners/"other" might just do about anything-- gotta watch them.

At its most basic level, InfraGard is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the private sector," the InfraGard website states. "InfraGard chapters are geographically linked with FBI Field Office territories."

In November 2001, InfraGard had around 1,700 members. As of late January, InfraGard had 23,682 members, according to its website, www.infragard.net, which adds that "350 of our nation's Fortune 500 have a representative in InfraGard."

To join, each person must be sponsored by "an existing InfraGard member, chapter, or partner organization." The FBI then vets the applicant. On the application form, prospective members are asked which aspect of the critical infrastructure their organization deals with. These include: agriculture, banking and finance, the chemical industry, defense, energy, food, information and telecommunications, law enforcement, public health, and transportation.
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FBI Director Robert Mueller addressed an InfraGard convention on August 9, 2005. At that time, the group had less than half as many members as it does today. "To date, there are more than 11,000 members of InfraGard," he said. "From our perspective that amounts to 11,000 contacts . . . and 11,000 partners in our mission to protect America." He added a little later, "Those of you in the private sector are the first line of defense."

He urged InfraGard members to contact the FBI if they "note suspicious activity or an unusual event." And he said they could sic the FBI on "disgruntled employees who will use knowledge gained on the job against their employers."

Needless to say, the ACLU sees it somewhat differently.

"There is evidence that InfraGard may be closer to a corporate TIPS program, turning private-sector corporations--some of which may be in a position to observe the activities of millions of individual customers--into surrogate eyes and ears for the FBI," the ACLU warned in its August 2004 report The Surveillance-Industrial Complex: How the American Government Is Conscripting Businesses and Individuals in the Construction of a Surveillance Society.

Isolated, elite status: A culture of suspicion: managed communication

"The interests of InfraGard must be protected whenever presented to non-InfraGard members," the website states. "During interviews with members of the press, controlling the image of InfraGard being presented can be difficult. Proper preparation for the interview will minimize the risk of embarrassment. . . . The InfraGard leadership and the local FBI representative should review the submitted questions, agree on the predilection of the answers, and identify the appropriate interviewee. . . . Tailor answers to the expected audience. . . . Questions concerning sensitive information should be avoided."
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One of the advantages of InfraGard, according to its leading members, is that the FBI gives them a heads-up on a secure portal about any threatening information related to infrastructure disruption or terrorism.
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The InfraGard website advertises this. In its list of benefits of joining InfraGard, it states: "Gain access to an FBI secure communication network complete with VPN encrypted website, webmail, listservs, message boards, and much more."

InfraGard members receive "almost daily updates" on threats "emanating from both domestic sources and overseas," Hershman says.
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"We get very easy access to secure information that only goes to InfraGard members," Schneck says. "People are happy to be in the know."
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Schneck is proud of the relationships the InfraGard Members Alliance has built with the FBI. "If you had to call 1-800-FBI, you probably wouldn't bother," she says. "But if you knew Joe from a local meeting you had with him over a donut, you might call them. Either to give or to get. We want everyone to have a little black book."
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"They're very much looped into our readiness capability," says Amy Kudwa, spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security. "We provide speakers, as well as do joint presentations [with the FBI]. We also train alongside them, and they have participated in readiness exercises."

This all sounds like an enforcement program run amok, but not yet a catastrophe, until you read on.

One business owner in the United States tells me that InfraGard members are being advised on how to prepare for a martial law situation--and what their role might be. He showed me his InfraGard card, with his name and e-mail address on the front, along with the InfraGard logo and its slogan, "Partnership for Protection." On the back of the card were the emergency numbers that Schneck mentioned.

This business owner says he attended a small InfraGard meeting where agents of the FBI and Homeland Security discussed in astonishing detail what InfraGard members may be called upon to do.

"The meeting started off innocuously enough, with the speakers talking about corporate espionage," he says. "From there, it just progressed. All of a sudden we were knee deep in what was expected of us when martial law is declared. We were expected to share all our resources, but in return we'd be given specific benefits." These included, he says, the ability to travel in restricted areas and to get people out.
But that's not all.

"Then they said when--not if--martial law is declared, it was our responsibility to protect our portion of the infrastructure, and if we had to use deadly force to protect it, we couldn't be prosecuted," he says.

It's been said before, but I'll say it again: You just couldn't make these things up.

 

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It's worth reading the text of Senate Bill 1959, The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorist Act of 2007.

Sleepy, sleepy people.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 01:15:06 PM EST
The serpent's egg...!

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman
by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 at 03:54:11 PM EST
Thanks for listening.
Anyone else home out there? ----no.
Since we seem to be having a private conversation here, I'm thinking of finally getting serious about digital --
Canon EOS 5D.


Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:25:11 PM EST
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Anyone else home out there? ----no.

Just us chickens.

I don't really take the "shoot to kill" thing all that seriously, it sounds like someone getting carried away, but the rest of it is worrying enough.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:29:31 PM EST
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"Progressive" found other sources who corroborated the content, in meetings in other regions as well.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:15:03 AM EST
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And take the camera talk to the camera thread before I get all confused! :-)
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 02:32:25 PM EST
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Now that someone is talking-- even if only to complain-- I will meekly comply. Sir.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:16:35 AM EST
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Snarky--yes. Just my natural tendency to resist proper authority.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:17:51 AM EST
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Proper authority? Where?!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:25:33 AM EST
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Was it in New Orleans after Katrina, the last time martial law was applied ?
You can imagine the chaos between all the different agencies shooting at each other... Or together at the same "poor" guys!

But then it seems more of a "special club" pass... Like having a brown shirt, just to feel you're on the "good" side of things...

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:06:16 AM EST
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Pretty much my image- but I see this as more fundamentally psyops/recruitment thing- there is a strong correlation between authoritarian personalities and people who are drawn to police/security work. Lots of examples. Viewed in this light, the "shoot to kill" element is (or was)less important than the perception of such power as a draw--

During the peak of the fraudulent "war on drugs",the DEA flew a chartered plane around Florida and Georgia once a week, picking up cops, security guards, corporate dicks--any policewit with delusions of grandeur, and would fly these guys to a weapons range in Miami-Dade county- so they could fire grenade launchers, anti-aircraft weapons and rockets, --an amazing array of firepower utterly unrelated to their job or tactics-- and recruit them to inform, to --join "Infraguard"? Dunno.
As the safety committee at Morgan Yacht corp, I was in charge of protecting large tanks of, among other things, very flammable solvents- pretty serious chemical hazard. When I laughingly declined my own invite to the gun party, it took about a month for my name to turn up on a list of suspected drug smugglers- even though my boat had not been even launched yet.  

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:40:53 AM EST
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Many France universities had protestations against a neoliberal reform last fall. One of the strategies was "occupying" universities. Which of course the Institutions didn't like.

In Nanterre - an university in the north western suburbs of Paris, which used to be a hotbed of leftism, and where the events of May 1968 were started -, when the cops came to - quite violently - oust the occupying students out, other groups of students cheered along the beating by shouting, "Allez les Bleus".

The idea that violence is the norm of law enforcment, that negotiation is an absurdity, that democracy means winner takes all, is getting more and more prevalent - cheered on, even. Another step to an authoritarian society is taken.

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Private polices - from supermarket guard to mercenaries in Iraq, and now, "deputies" militias raised from the population. An important part of the concept of the panopticon is that one must never know when he is being watched. Blurring the line between law enforcment and snitches, that's a large part of this program, I'd bet.

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Sat Feb 9th, 2008 at 10:50:48 PM EST
of these crowds: "why are you complaining: if you did nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear"

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:00:58 AM EST
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Exactly. And my comment above, as well as yours, illustrates the fact that this is not at all a new -or even resurgent- tactic.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:44:43 AM EST
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(and human history throughout times)

Autoritarianism is much preferable to chaos. And given where we're headed...

Which begs the point of who is actually driving us towards chaos, now.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:02:31 AM EST
People who would like to be authoritarian rulers.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:06:44 AM EST
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Ah, but one man's chaos is another man's hope for a better life.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:45:47 AM EST
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Don't confuse chaos with anarchy.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:46:34 AM EST
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To the security state, the distinction is meaningless, making the response the same.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:55:58 AM EST
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If you adopt their linguistic and conceptual frame, you've lost.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:40:12 AM EST
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My point was that the source of power here is a security state that will happily label ("terrorist"), incarcerate or kill either unruly, "chaotic" perpetrators--or anarchists, and sees no distinction.

Blackwater in the Big Easy, and death on the bridge. Was this guy an agent of chaos--or an anarchist? Does not matter. Just meat now.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 04:38:21 PM EST
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European Tribune - Infraguard
One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to "shoot to kill" in the event of martial law.
I don't know what's more frightening, that the FBI is allowed to deputize the public like this, including "shoot-to-kill" powers, or that the possibility of "martial law" is talked about in such a casual fashion.

We have met the enemy, and he is us — Pogo
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:09:11 AM EST
Yes, I agree. Interestingly, the participant who blew the whistle said this:
But the whistleblower is 100 percent certain of it. "I have nothing to gain by telling you this, and everything to lose," he adds. "I'm so nervous about this, and I'm not someone who gets nervous."

Lots of people sense the nature of such tactics of polarization and fragmentation, whether or not they can hang a name on them. I think they sense the inevitable outcome, too.

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.

by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:52:22 AM EST
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I get the feeling that this is  one of those psychological warfare events,  designed to cow people because they become paranoid about their fellow citizens, after all how do you know which of your fellow citizens has the right to shoot in the state of emergency.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 09:26:48 AM EST
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More revealing is the broadcasting of serials like "Twenty-Four".[1] A show whose systematic use of torture displeased clever US army top brass.

Prime time television is still the best portal to the "society of spectacle. This translation comes from the "Bureau of public secrets", which is a wonderful name.

[1] add 1960.

by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 05:55:23 AM EST
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Damn! Great link, door. Am reading it now, in between feeding kids and things.
OT: (Yes, Colman):
Could your on-line name have come from Heinlein's lovely little book in which the cat tried every door, hoping one of them would lead into summer?

Useful talking follows experience, the more experience the better. Talking that precedes experience is known as bullshit.
by geezer in Paris (risico at wanadoo(flypoop)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 06:00:32 AM EST
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exactly. those first pages are amazing.
in this case, summer means a better world. the prefix "findme" doesn't look very good; it is damning passive.
by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 06:22:52 PM EST
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It is the things which go unnoticed which are the most striking.

Have you looked to americans's choice of name? troubling facts are:

1 - the abundance of blunt, neutral, names, like Ashton, or Cameron.
2 - the use of single syllable nicknames, or close. The change of the sweet vowel "i": Tone instead of Tony, even Mike instead of Mick makes a difference.
3 - use of initials. namely to hide girlie names?

The resulting names are convex, in the sense of having a monobloc structure. It is not easy to be decomposable and changed with subtlety, i.e. being mocked.
This is a country walking in the streets, wearing a hood.

Again, why such particular concern with the USA? because it's the centre of the storm (but no longer its eye).

by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 06:23:22 AM EST
Are they seriously talking about Martial law??? In such a normal, standard way...

are they waiting for a terorism attack....

It really sounds quite incredible...

Your last sentence is..w ell.. it is so scary for the americans.. I do nto knwo waht to say...

i would liek to think that the smae oligarchy would be in power if thi s go serious.. but I woud nto be sure.. it wil be a black out of certian aprts of the power structure of the US... it does nto bode well..

Are 30% of the population comitted to this explicit situation enough?

I would go for the easy and slow path to dictaroship a one man rule if I were a despot.. but may be they are ina hurry.

And I still can not quite believe it.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:24:25 AM EST
Wheels within wheels.... ! I have sometimes some paranoids bouts... The "great conspiracy" and so on...

The trouble is that we already saw that in europe since the "croix de feu" and other tinfoil extremists believing in an "Über Alles" sort of thing...

Summing up all those small signs isn't really optimistic !

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 08:19:59 AM EST
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Infrahuman(e) is all I can come up with.  The waste of human effort by mis-design, the continuous moral undermining of society and creation of fear...

_Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. --Charu Saxena._
by metavision on Sun Feb 10th, 2008 at 07:59:01 AM EST
From Sarkozy's speech presenting the "Plan Banlieue" or what to do with the violent suburbs

Je veux que les habitants et les forces de sécurité apprennent à se connaître et à se respecter. L'éthique des forces de sécurité doit donc être au-dessus de tout soupçon.

Des réservistes expérimentés seront recrutés comme délégués à la cohésion police - population. Ils s'appuieront sur des "volontaires citoyens de la police nationale", c'est-à-dire des habitants, dont je veux engager le recrutement pour qu'ils s'impliquent dans la sécurité de leur propre quartier.

"I want that the inhabitants and the security forces learn to know and respect each other. The ethics of the security forces must be above any suspicion.

"Experimented reservists will be hired as delegates to the police-population cohesion. They'll lean on "National police voluntary citizens", that is, inhabitants, whose recruiting I want to engage so that they participate in the security of their own neighborhood"

The first paragraph is babble, but note that the ethics must be above suspicions, but not the actions. Since, as a given in Sarko's policy, the policemen will have good ethics, their actions no matter how illegal are absolved.

The second paragraph establishes something eerily similar to Infraguard. As you keep reminding us, the Empire is moving in in France.

Note that improving the relations between population and police had a working answer in France : the_Police de Proximité_, i.e. the beat cops. Sarkozy set up (quite literally : upon a meeting of Sarkozy, who was then interior minister, with the Toulouse Police de Proximité cops, his advisors asked the cops to talk about a rugby game they had played against the local youth rather than the much more numerous police actions they wanted to talk about) a caricature of it as being "social workers" and dissolved it.

The old solution meant that it was the police institution that was moving towards the population ; this "militia" means that it is the population that is moving towards the cops.

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.

by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Mon Feb 11th, 2008 at 04:52:39 AM EST
Has a "Vichy" ring to it...!
The Banlieue Plan is just so superficial and doesn't even integer the "Great Paris"'s one -for Paris of course- or the "Communautées de Communes" and other "Pôles de Compétitivité" as you've stated elsewhere!)

The SRU urban regulation law wil soon be an empty bag !

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Mon Feb 11th, 2008 at 05:23:27 AM EST
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