Odds and Ends: Heretic Edition

by poemless
Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 06:26:37 PM EST

Contents:  
Look, someone elsewhere in the Internets has posted a link to the greatest Putin-homage site, which I can't not share with you, if only because I need to prove I am not the only deranged one out there, and then someone in the ET higher-ups (well, the higher up...) asked me to write about this supposed 2 party United Russia split and I guess I should do it because the fact is I really, really do want to come to Paris - OTHERWISE, I would not be here, writing this.  I'd be hiding from all of you.  Because you infuriate me.  That's right: I am blogging while infuriated.  Get a helmet and a stiff drink if you plan to proceed.

...

Oh, yeah.  And some hot guys.


1. Meta Stuff

-  MEMO:
Attn.: Jesus, God, any church-residing entity I can't see but am expected to share some unfounded beliefs with or something.

This diary is NOT FOR YOU.  GO HOME.  Seriously.  I'm so ferociously sick and bored with you in my life!  Even if you are like the greatest thing that ever happened to mankind and all you really want to do is save my soul, or bring me into a warm caring non-judgemental and otherwise inauthentic community, I'm still asking you to leave.  It can't always be about you.  No it can't.  How can I ever become a good person if I you won't bloody leave me alone long enough for me to think rationally so I can make responsible choices?!  You are suffocating me!  I need my space.  I've no tolerance left.  Get out of my life and my diary.  Like Ivan said, I'm returning you the ticket.  Now take that ticket and get on one of those environmentally friendly, frighteningly clean high-speed Euro-trains and leave this place.  And take the Brits and their wretched idiomatic slang with you, please.  You all can have a British non-church church service in the diner car.  But not here.  THIS DIARY IS A CHURCH FREE ZONE.

Violators will be prosecuted.  (Did I mention I've gone up a few points on the Autocratic axis of the Political Compass?)  If you want to go to church, there are many, many, in Europe to choose from.  I know this because Rick Steves has shown Americans every last one of them.  So grab a copy of "Europe through the backdoor" and get going.  Shoo.  Leave.

-  (another) MEMO:
Attn.: Gnomery.

Nosemonkey: The EU Blog Directory: The Big Boys:

European Tribune

- A European off-shoot of big liberal US blogs The Daily Kos and The Booman Tribune, the real benefit is in the community - as shown via the "Diaries", miniature blogs by the site's regular users that contain numerous gems. Sadly, though, the Diary section doesn't have its own RSS feed.

I would do anything for an odds & ends feed...
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 09:19:13 PM EDT

You're only hurting yourselves, little gnomekins...

-  Forget all the things I said in my last diary about Russian men.  

That was totally unfair.  I don't know what I was thinking.  I must have been disoriented by the glare reflecting off Dima's a bit too snug jacket.  There is still a chance they will kill me before cigarettes do, of course.  (Wow.  Just wow.)  But that was really insensitive to write an entire demographic off like that.  Especially those who fall into the "charming fellow from Siberia who lives in Paris and thinks I'm awesome but maybe crazy" category.  Apologies all around.  I'm just a sensitive soul.  And horribly impatient.  Who am I to tell Putin to break the law and remain President?  I am the person who goes on the offensive when Americans try to tell Russians how to run their country!  I'm such a hypocrite.

Oh, and speaking of my favorite demographic, someone who knows someone who knows someone who once worked for Gazprom says Misha's going to be let out of jail soon!  You'd think I'd be thrilled, right?  No.  Much safer to obsess over scary oligarch who is behind bars.  Now I understand how Putin feels: after some of the things I've said and done in the last few years, maybe it's best to keep him locked up for a while.  For my own safety.  Plus the folks over at Robert Amsterdam's blog are pretty cynical about any impending pardon.  (Rumours of which appear to have been spawned by an elusive answer Putin gave Merkel on the topic at a recent meeting.  Seems Merkel's pretty hot for Misha too, always goading Putin to set him free...)  Well, you'd think his lawyer would know about these things.  But then again, it's not clear they've a good track record at guessing Putin's secret mysterious conniving plans.  Anyway.  Posmotrim...  

Raphaël.  Kinda cute, huh?

Lastly on this topic - handsome Russian fellows-, check it out: that adorable French popstar, Raphaël, of whom I am (secretly, shhh) a fan:  He's Russian.  Who knew?  And do you remember the film I (was probably edited out of) found myself in the middle of last year?  The one with Angelina Jolie?  The director was ... Russian. The same guy  who directed "Night Watch," for all you fans.  That's right.  I was right in the middle of one of his shoots.  How jealous are you!?  Anyway, there are CIA agents traipsing around all over the planet wishing they had my uncanny ability to spot, attract, find themselves in the movies of russkie muzhchiny...

-  Joyeux Anniversaire, Jérôme!  

For your birthday, I am (well, actually, I'm writing this damn diary is what I'm doing) admitting that you are correct: Nutella is NOT chocolate.  I had to resign myself to this fact last night after a desperate search through the cabinets for chocolate turned up only a jar of the gloppy hazelnut spread.  It was a messy, sugary disappointment.  If being 37 is making you depressed, I think you should send me some chocolate.  It might not ease your depression, but it will make me happy.  And then everyone here will thank you - because apparently people get really annoyed when I'm unhappy with something.  Ooh. You could send chocolate pie... mmm...  pie...

2.  Serious-ish political stuff you can skip if you are just here for the laughs.

Multiple sources in the Russia-Expert-o-Sphere (a.k.a. my g-mail inbox) have been breaking this news to me.  Yes, I have sources.  How would you know if I didn't?  I've always wondered that.  Like, if you read a book, by, say, Peter Baker, you'll find half of it consists of citations like "Source close to Putin, wishes to remain anonymous."  How do I know he's not just making it up?  I could make outlandish accusations and cite unverifiable sources and get a book deal too, probably.  But that would mean selling out to the Man.  Anyway, my sources tell me "here's the dirt:"  Russia will become a 2 party system, with the currently ruling United Russia party headed by Medvedev and the Just(or Fair - yeah, I know they told you Russians don't have a word for that when you were a kid) Russia party, the opposition party, headed by Putin.  

I know - you are just beside yourselves with all of this insidery knowledge.

This is what people in the Russia-Expert-o-Sphere do when they don't have any idea what is going on.  They make up stuff.  First off, why on earth would anyone duplicate our American system of 2 pretty much the same parties?  Is anyone looking at us and thinking, "Oh, America.  They look like they've got their act together.  Let's copy them!"  Especially the Russians.  Well, besides Garry Kasparov.  But I'm not sure he's actually in Russia.  Oh, and speaking of Garry, there already ARE opposition parties in Russia.  They are called Communists and LDPR.  (The Union of Right Forces -the liberals- don't count.  Not because they aren't in opposition.  Oh, they are.  But because, in order to be a party, I think you have to have some semblance of organization.)  Still, this is how the paranoiacs imagine Putin will scheme his way back into office.  Not sure why he'd make up some unnecessary and convoluted and American-esque (see: doomed to fail) and sneaky scheme and put Medvedev in power in order to do this, when he could have, uhm, you know, just outlawed term limits and stayed on.  Which you'd think he would have done if he were the megalomaniac they believe he is.  

If you're interested, Patrick Armstrong runs through some more Russian politics fortune-telling and its perils over at Russia Blog.  Good stuff. Check it out.

3.  How Russia actually is becoming more like America.  

Or, wait, "How America is becoming more like Russia."  Oh, I'm so confused!  Which is it?

- Robert Amsterdam: Wiretapping in Russia.  It is not just an American problem ...

There is a 5 year old girl in me who is really sad and perplexed after reading that line.

... the following exclusive translation from News.ru reports that the Ministry of Information has announced that all telephone and internet service providers must allow unrestricted wiretapping and monitoring access for the FSB, despite the constitutional requirement of a court order. We know from experience that this system has been in place for several years, but it is just now that the Ministry is making it publicly known.
Ministry of information technologies and communication opens access for FSB to tap telephone conversations

The Ministry of information technologies and communication of the RF for the first time officially obligated all telecommunications companies, as well as internet providers, to provide the capability to the FSB to conduct unlimited and uncontrolled tapping of telephones and lifting of information. The Constitution of Russia allows this only on the basis of a court decision.

North is South and East is West and Russia spying on its citizens is news because that's only done in Evil America.  help.

- RIAN: Russia to introduce 'color-coded' terrorist threat system.

When I was a little girl, only Russians spied on each other, not Americans, and rainbows were used to decorate my Trapper Keeper, not scare people about terrorists.  Scaring people with rainbows...  I hate this new world.

- Chicago Tribune: Artist claims 'censorship'

NEW YORK - After being splattered with paintballs in a Chicago gallery last year, Iraqi-born artist Wafaa Bilal intended his follow-up piece, "Virtual Jihadi," to show how it feels to be the hunted instead of the hunter.

But the video work -- which features an electronic "avatar" of the Chicago-based artist dressed as a suicide bomber -- was shut down Thursday by officials of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y., after it had been open less than a day.

A work with complicated origins, "Virtual Jihadi" mimics a video game, allowing a viewer using a keyboard and mouse to control a gun that shoots American soldiers. The object of the "game" is to penetrate a bunker and kill President Bush.

Bilal's avatar is available to blow himself up next to the president. That aspect of the piece reportedly led to inquiries from the FBI and other federal agencies.

In announcing the shutdown, the institute said it would review the show's "origin, content and intent" before allowing it to be shown again, according to a statement by a Rensselaer vice president, William Walker.

But Bilal, a faculty member at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago, said he sent Rensselaer his plans for the work long before he arrived at the upstate New York campus to begin a two-week residency.

"I personally think it is censorship," he said. "I think it is being shut down permanently."

He may be right about his claim of censorship, but I'm going to have to disagree with the one about being an "artist" ...  

- BBC: Property sell-off by Russian army

Looks like America's is not the only army that needs a cash infusion.

The Russian army is set to raise money by auctioning off some of the property it owns, according to reports in the Russian press.
Newspapers in Moscow say the auction will include mansions, unoccupied land, and even whole towns.

The purpose of the sell-off is to raise money to build much-needed modern housing for army officers.  (...)

Going under the hammer will be "fabulous mansions and guest houses, dilapidated garrison towns, unused shooting ranges and vast tracts of neglected land, on which no human has set foot for years".

The property owned by the army is extensive, and its total value has been estimated at 300 billion roubles (£6bn).

But there is less need for garrison towns, now that army numbers have dropped from four million men to 1.1 million in recent years.

Military spending, though, is on the increase, with this year's total expenditure of £35bn set to rise by a quarter in the next two years.

President-elect Dmitry Medvedev has identified the improvement of housing as one of his four "national projects".

One army officer, who refused to give his name, responded to the auction plan by saying: "I didn't know the army had anything left to sell. I thought it had all been stolen long ago."

Obviously Dima didn't get the message that you work with the army you have, not the one you wish you had.  Wait.  They are selling mansions and guest houses to raise money for ... military housing?  Why not just ... put the soldiers in the mansions and guest houses?  Man, I have no faith in this new regime.  I want my Putin back.

3.  Never can say Goodbye...

Fortunately, the press is having as difficult a time bidding dosvidaniya to VVP as I am.  

For example, Putin went to the theater and the whole Internets went berserk about it.  Apparently he offered some constructive criticism to the cast after the event.  To be sure: autocratic leaders getting into art criticism leave a sinking feeling in the tummies of many.  It's the type of behavoir that usually preceeds a ... purge or something.  No one even has to say the "S" word.  But that's what all of these articles are about, in the end.  Get a grip.  First off, I don't recall Stalin stepping down from highest office.  Secondly, I don't recall Putin offing millions of peasants and artists and best friends and pretty much everyone else who happened to be alive during his regime.  So let's take a deep breath and steady our hands, shall we.  The guy just went to a play.  He likes theater.  He's a renaissance man.  A classy chap.

Er, if it's not his classy side you dig, however, "Vodka, Erotic Dreams and One-Liners" may be more to your liking.  The Moscow Times, despite themselves, have put together a little greatest hits of Putin-related weirdness.  You've probably heard it all before, but, really, does "It sank" ever cease to amuse?  Ah...  Here's a trip down memory lane:

Putin himself has often displayed a dark sense of humor. But it's not clear whether his family even thinks he's funny.

His wife, Lyudmila, once said rather mournfully that she preferred simple, ordinary humor. "It is hard for me to understand black humor and irony," she told reporters in 2005. "I like simple and kind humor, although I cannot say that we have only this kind of humor in our family."

There is a Wikipedia entry devoted to Putinisms, although, unlike Bushisms, most of Putin's famous utterances are characterized by menacing precision rather than a blundering command of his native tongue.

Putin is indeed adept at one-liners, though sometimes they are far from funny. When CNN's Larry King asked Putin in 2000 what happened to the Kursk submarine, Putin replied with an eerie smile, "It sank."

In a markedly lighter moment, Putin responded to U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's criticism of Russia by recalling an incident in which Cheney accidentally peppered a hunting partner with buckshot fired from his shotgun. Cheney's statements, Putin said, are "the same as an unsuccessful hunting shot."

U.S. President George W. Bush got the same treatment for criticizing democracy in Russia. "We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, I will tell you quite honestly," Putin told Bush.

(...)

Bawdiness has also been a hallmark of Putin's humor. In 2002, Putin suggested that a foreign reporter pressing him on the war in Chechnya have his foreskin removed. "If you want to completely become an Islamic radical and are ready to have a circumcision, then I invite you to Moscow," Putin told the reporter in Brussels. "We have a multicultural country and have specialists even on this issue. And I will recommend that he perform this surgery in such a way that nothing would grow out of you again."

He referenced genitalia again in 2006 at a meeting with foreign media executives, who apparently annoyed him with a speculative question about whether Russia could back sanctions against Iran for its nuclear program.

"What if my grandmother had certain sexual attributes? Then she would be my grandfather," he said.

But wait!  There's more!  I know, I pulled that little trick they use on the news to keep you tuned in, "Snowstorm of Death on the way. Details after the break."  Then they spend 29 minutes mewing about stuff you don't care about or believe.  Then, just before the close, you get the Snowstorm of Death details.  Only instead of Snowstorm of Death, I present to you:

Interesting moments in the life of Putin: 53 pictures. (Hat Tip: Russian language & culture blog)

{{Internet Heaven}}

Includes all the well-known pics I've repeatedly posted here (anyone up for a fishing expedition?), but also has some never before seen on O&E gems like these:

and for old time's sake:

See?  Now you know why I couldn't remain in hiding.  How can I be so greedy as to keep this treasure all to myself?  I am a generous person.  I am a good person.  A good, decent, generous, kind person who just happens to think some of you are completely full of it.  That's all.  But that's ok.  Maybe all you need is a good

OMG.  I was going to include this funny blog post about Kasparov and totally forgot until I typed "completely full of it."  Thanks for the reminder, guys!

4.  The Ivanov Report: The "Democratic Opposition" In Russia: The Joker With No Clothes

Garry Kasparov, a former chess great and now a tireless violator of public order, often complains that the mainstream Russia's media outlets are closed to him, and his message to the Russian audience gets silenced.  One would then expect him to use any opportunity to tap on the more hospitable Western sources to get this message through.  True, very few Russians read regularly, say, The Wall Street Journal, of which Kasparov is a contributing editor, but this is still better than nothing.  Besides, the WSJ is obviously scouted by some sophisticated members of the Russian business elite.

From this perspective, Kasparov's latest WSJ article cannot help but surprise.  Kasparov could use the provided space by presenting his vision of the current situation in Russia and the direction the country, in Kasparov's opinion, should be heading.  He could also explain his reasons for running for Russia's presidency, however shortly, and present what might be viewed as an election platform.  

Nothing of the sort.  Kasparov begins his piece with a detailed discussion of the presidential election in the United States.  For a resident of Moscow and St. Petersburg -- this is how Kasparov is introduced -- he demonstrates remarkable knowledge of the positions taken by the three major candidates.  McCain is obviously his favorite ("the thought of him [McCain] in the White House strikes fear into authoritarian leaders everywhere").  He also appears sympathetic to Barack Obama ("...he has a history of compromise, of being willing to cross his own party and to cross the aisle"), but has no taste for Hillary Clinton whom Kasparov calls the favorite of "the Russian ruling elite.

Having done with the American election, Kasparov turns to his pet topic: blasting Western leaders, President Bush in particular, for being "soft" on Putin.  As usual, Kasparov is urging the West to expel Russia from what he repeatedly calls G-7.  A strange logic for a man who wanted to be Russia's next president.  Unless, of course, Kasparov believes that only with him at the helm does Russia have a place in the community of "G-7 nations."(...)

Yuri Shevchuk, the leader of the legendary rock group DDT attended the rally.  At least, the frustration of Mr. Shevchuk with the results of the presidential election is easy to understand.  It's hard for a Russian musician to accept the fact that the next Russian president is a Deep Purple fan.

Aah... Funny stuff.  Hm.  Wonder if our friend Surkov can head up a "Ministry of Fixing Dima's Terrible Taste in Music?"  Is there a suggestions box on the Kremlin website?

Ok everyone, thanks for reading!  You can all go back to your c-word now.  You'll be spending a lot of time in the confessional after having read this.  Enjoy.  Tell God I said Hi and to do something about Darfur.  Oh, I forgot, there's no God in your church.  oooooookay...  What, is the UK full of people like those loaded gay couples who move to Vermont and convert unused churches into lofts or something?  I mean, that's cool.  But don't believe that's what you are up to for a second.

So glad we won the revolution.  

~~~

Misha:  Hey, rumour has it you're not going to die in prison!  Yay!  Smile!

Ok, ciao, mes amis.  Have a lovely weekend.

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"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 06:41:18 PM EST
Better a Cruel "Hello, World" diary that a Good Bye, Cruel World diary...

It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 07:10:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Easy for you to say; you're not the source/object of my unbridled rage.  ;)

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 11:46:08 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The Italian urban legend has it that Nutella was a factory accident that was marketed on a whim and hit paydirt. All it is is sugar and oil with a trace of chocolat and hazelnuts. Very addictive. But at least it fills your cupboard with spare mismatched glasses.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 06:48:19 PM EST
And Baci Perugina was created to recycle crumbled hazelnuts.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 06:55:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Yeah but you don't get love letters in your Nutella.


"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 11:47:01 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Depending on the source, that could be offputting. ;-)

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 11:50:20 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Especially if written in French. </snark>
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:39:24 PM EST
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I understand Putin will head United Russia (the tough Republicans) and Medveded Fair Russia (the kind Democrats).

Medvedev has been praising Sakharov publicly recently. and Russian public TV has been criticizing Putin lately.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (jeromeguillet@yahoo.fr) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 06:49:20 PM EST
It's a sham, but not necessarily a bad thing. Spain's longest "democratic" spell was a completely corrupt, sham system of scripted alternance between two parties.

Wikipedia: History of Spain

The Restoration (1874-1931)

A system of turnos was established in Spain in which the liberals, led by Práxedes Mateo Sagasta and the conservatives, led by Antonio Canovas del Castillo, alternated in control of the government. A modicum of stability and economic progress was restored to Spain during Alfonso XII's rule. His death in 1885, followed by the assassination of Canovas del Castillo in 1897, destabilized the government.

From Spain under the Restoration
The two parties alternated in the government in a controlled process known as el turno pacífico: the Liberal Party led by Sagasta and the Conservative Party led by Cánovas del Castillo. The caciques, local powerful men, were used to manipulate election results and because of this, resentment to the system slowly built up over time, and important nationalist movements in Catalonia and the Basque Country, as well as unions, started to form.


It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 07:06:40 PM EST
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My other sources were a bit vague about who would be heading up which party - only suggesting Putin would head the opposition party.  Since UR is the one currently in power, that would make Just Russia the opposition party, and despite not really doing a lot of opposing, that's how they've defined themselves.   Plus Putin's been critical of UR in the past.  On the other hand, UR is itself a fabrication - not really a platform beyond getting Putin or Medvedev elected...  Who knows.  I just can't help but think some of this 2 party (like Republicans v. Democrats) talk doesn't translate easily into reality.  Not to mention I'm not keen on trying to understand Russian politics through the frame of America's.  Liberal and conservative have different meanings there, the communists still have support, and there aren't explicitly clear lines between all of the parties.  It might just be me, but in the bigger picture, if Medvedev turns out to be the warm fuzzy liberal teddy bear everyone's chattering about, I think it would be a matter of political evolution, a response to necessity and reflection of new possibility, rather than some clean ideological split with Putin.   Putin and Medvedev seem to be pragmatists, not ideologues, unlike the communists or Other Russia types.  It seems to me that if they were each other's competition, the debates would be about angels on pinheads..

Really, though, I have no idea what will happen and no desire to get into fortune-telling, nor do I presume to know what goes on inside the Kremlin...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Russia

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."

by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 12:14:13 PM EST
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European Tribune - Odds and Ends: Heretic Edition
First off, why on earth would anyone duplicate our American system of 2 pretty much the same parties?

Perhaps they're running it in reverse and wed should look at Russias recent past to see where the USA's near future is going.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship

by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Thu Mar 13th, 2008 at 07:03:05 PM EST
That would be the correct place to look, indeed.

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 12:14:56 PM EST
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What is chocolate pie?  Is it like a chocolate tart, or chocolate cheesecake? Or something else? Does Putin eat chocolate pie?

Ad astra per aspera
by In Wales (inwales aaat eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 04:29:10 AM EST


"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 12:15:38 PM EST
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Fitting homage to international pi day.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:26:06 PM EST
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On what does Kasparov base his assertion that she would be the favourite of the "Russian ruling elite"? Quite the opposite, one would think, given her recent exclamation that "Putin has no soul" and support for Kosova independence.

One can only assume he bases this on the fact that he doesn't like her, therefore the "Russian ruling elite" must like her, seeing as he fancies himself the antithesis of the "ruling elite". He inhabits a rather bipolar world, that guy. There are two sides; one is black, one is white. Must be an occupational hazard. But hey, that's "how life imitates chess"...

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 08:04:08 AM EST
I knew him quite well, having spent 24/7 x 3 with him. He is smart, a sponge and loves his mother. What more can i say...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:18:02 PM EST
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He's also an ego-maniac and horrible candidate.  But I'm sure he loves his mother.  And his sugar daddies at the WSJ.

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:23:00 PM EST
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I have some excellent stories about him and Page his manager. And Viktor the KGB colonel who travelled incognito with us. I have him on film. And he has me on film.

Gary was nice guy. I enjoyed his company - but he is, as you say, a horrible candidate. The movie I made was called 'Kasparov's mates'

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:30:56 PM EST
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Certainly an extremely intelligent person, but awfully self-serving in his criticisms (and his politics is completely shit). His whole shtick is about establishing him as the face of the Russian "opposition" in the eyes of the west, as he must be well aware that he has no realistic chance of ever being elected to anything in Russia given that he commands little to no actual support (hint: if you have to hook up with the National Bolshevik Party, chances are you don't have a groundswell of popular support behind you).

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:31:31 PM EST
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Hey, don't knock the NatsBols! ;)  Serious, Garry doesn't even deserve to be in Eddie's company.  Ok, Limonov's a terrible politician & self-piting, off and on expat who hates Putin too.  But somehow he makes it cool, not ... embarrassing.  

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:40:05 PM EST
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Gary is simply out of time. When the world needs warm milk and cookies, he will be ready ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:44:22 PM EST
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I'll give him style points for the glasses and the mustache, but that's as far as I'm willing to go. The flag alone freaks me out!

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:06:45 PM EST
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LOL.  But he's such a genius writer.  He's absolutely mad!

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:16:48 PM EST
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Laughing the whole way down the page.

And I'm right there behind you in the Vladimir Putin fan club.

But you are absolutely wrong about Nutella. There's almost nothing better in any cupboard. Nutella and raspberry jam (homemade from my yard) sandwich. Now that's living. Nutella doesn't last ten minutes in my house, alas they only have the small jars in Amerika. Another advantage to moving back to France: much bigger jars of Nutella. Now they might last a day!

How could we ever have been at each others' throats?

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

by redstar on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 10:32:33 AM EST
First thing he'd do? De facto nationalization of the oil companies.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden
by redstar on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 10:33:40 AM EST
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Sometimes near christmas they sell the 3kg jars usually seen in crêpe sellers... I hope it takes more than a day to empty in your house !

Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium; atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
by linca (antonin POINT lucas AROBASE gmail.com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 11:17:15 AM EST
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redstar:
Nutella and raspberry jam (homemade from my yard) sandwich.
That beats peanut butter and jelly any day.

It'd be nice if the battle were only against the right wingers, not half of the left on top of that — François in Paris
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 12:52:51 PM EST
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Actually, peanut butter and jam (strawberry) and chocolate (not Nutella), packed into a croissant and warmed up used to be my favorite snack...

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 12:54:39 PM EST
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You just don't know when to stop, do you? Jam and chocolate?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 12:56:29 PM EST
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I admit it's a bit over the top.  But it is yummy!  Besides, chocolate - the real kind, dark, not very sweet - goes very well with many fruits.

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 01:02:47 PM EST
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nutella is full of trans fats.  there's nothing worse for your arteries.  seriously.  they have been banned in some countries.  
by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 03:55:39 PM EST
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You only live once.

Besides, it's nothing that 400-600km on the bike a week can't take care of.

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

by redstar on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:02:11 PM EST
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I think that's her point!

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:03:15 PM EST
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Sort of like the glass half full glass half empty deal.

Personally, I think everything should be in excess, moderation is for monks. And you catch more fish the closer you are to the nuclear plant....

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

by redstar on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:08:17 PM EST
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That is quotable ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:20:17 PM EST
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best to stay away from the trans fats altogether, I think.  even cycling won't help the effect of trans fats.  

google it to see what I mean.

there are other alternatives which are even more delicious, for example, go find 100% almond butter or 100% peanut butter or 100% macademia butter which have no hydrogenated fats and add lavender honey on a piece of warm bread.  

seventh heaven and healthy for your entire body in addition to having anti-bacterial properties.

it's really that easy.

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 09:29:51 PM EST
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It is excellent on aubergines. I have a very good 18th century Neapolitan eggplant recipe, smuthered in grated bitter (ie real) chocolat.

Peel and slice a few eggplants. You may weigh them down a few hours to reduce water content, but not necessary. Not all of us like the mushy consistancy of cooked eggplants.

Dust the slices with flour and fry lightly. Lay on absorbant paper to rid excess oil.

Soak stale bread in milk. You may also add some ricotta cheese if you so desire. Prepare a good tomato sauce with proper ingredients.

Alternate layers of eggplants with the bread mixture and sauce in a baking dish. Bake.

Just before serving grate a generous layer of bitter chocolat over each portion. Eat.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:56:13 PM EST
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Eggplants are disgusting, even when you call them pretty French names.  

I have texture issues.  I can't do oysters either...

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."

by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:58:49 PM EST
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Apparently you are not familiar with eggplant strings conserved in virgin olive oil. A near leathery consistency. Highly addictive.

As for oysters, it's a very European thing.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:15:12 PM EST
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de Gondi:
As for oysters, it's a very European thing.

Ummm...despite being European I could never manage oysters after I heard them defined as

"someone who has blown their nose into an ashtray"....

by ChrisCook (cojockathotmaildotcom) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:58:39 PM EST
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Why the ashtray part ? :-)
The old childish prank in the metro was to keep an oyster in ones hankerchief and to make some heavy throat noises... You usually found a seat !

On the gastronomical part, some people don't stand them, others just crave for them... Even in the same family ! And that's apart the psychological part, just a problem of taste.

"What can I do, What can I write, Against the fall of Night". A.E. Housman

by margouillat (hemidactylus(dot)frenatus(at)wanadoo(dot)fr) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 07:05:30 PM EST
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A sprinkling of salt over sliced aubergine for 30 minutes will draw out some of the 'metallic' taste of them. Rinse thoroughly afterwards.

I like to sauté them, thinly, sliced in butter with cumin and liberal black pepper. You can splash  few drops of tabasco on them too if you want.

All veg are good when their structure is just on the cusp of collapse. The trick is to get them just before that collapse. I use a homemade sharp long needle of steel, with a cork on the other end for holding.  My golden rule is that when the needle pulls out clean, we're ready.

But you have to be aware. 2 minutes can make a big dfiference.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:23:52 PM EST
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No not Tobasco, use Encona, much better.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:32:32 PM EST
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I actually don't throw too much tabasco around. I prefer fresh cut chili. But the aubergine cooks quite fast, so there's not anough time for the volatile oils of chii to disappear. Tabsaco comes in handy there because you can burn it off quite fast.

The final arbiter is always my scalp. By which time it i too late, but still part of  the learning process. I like my scalp to tingle - even a hint of sweat. Then I know the spicing is provocative, but exciting. It is one of the basic seduction rechniques.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:43:10 PM EST
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I'm partial to crunchy vegs. High heat briefly or vapour. Just the other side of raw when crystalline pearls bead on the surface and it's thoroughly hot.

Floopy slices are discouraging on a fork.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:41:35 PM EST
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My recent weekend experiments have been with veggies in bamboo baskets stacked over steaming water. I though it would be intuiative - slow cooking lower. fast cooking upper. But this hasn't worked out. There is a simple solution but I can't see it.

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 07:16:04 PM EST
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I prefer metal. A brisk heat builds up pressure, a homeostatic situation in which the position of the vegetable is of minor importance- so long as the lowest level is not being inundated by boiling water. I've found that turning off the heat at high temperature and just leaving the vegetables alone a few minutes enhances flavour and crunchiness.

But again, I don't use bamboo.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 08:24:26 PM EST
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No it doesn't. And it's jam, not jelly.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 12:55:33 PM EST
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How could we ever have been at each others' throats?

I was just thinking that the other day...  I used to despise you.  ;)

But you are absolutely wrong about Nutella.

Listen, it took me a while to come around too.  Jerome and I have had some heated debates about this.  I'm not saying Nutella is bad, just disappointing as a form of chocolate.  It's really not chocolate.  (I also maintain Cadbury is not chocolate.)  But if it is any consolation, a jar doesn't last long at my house either.  

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."

by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 01:00:29 PM EST
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I have banned Nutella from my house, along with chewing gum. The kids do sneak it in, however, on my two trips to America every year.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 01:16:25 PM EST
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And by the way, my aversion to having a church in my house pales in comparison to having Nutella in my house, and I detest churches.

I told Bush; don't play chess with the freakin' Russians.
by LEP (rafifoon@yahoo.com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 01:19:17 PM EST
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you can watch russian television on the internet if you want.  there are various sites offering this service.  some are free.  some aren't.

the other thing:

how much Botox do you think Putin uses?

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 03:57:00 PM EST
Don't know about the pay sites, but check out wwiTV.com. It's basically a collection of (legal) TV channel streams.

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 04:05:08 PM EST
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www.channelchooser.com

you can watch television from any country.  not always reliable though.  

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 04:09:37 PM EST
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I don't even watch a lot of TV at home, so watching it online is not very appealing for me, unless there is something specific which someone wants to share.  Or Putin is giving a press conference. ;)  (Yes I watched it.  It was fabulous.)  Is there something in particular you'd recommend?  

I just saw a really horrible video of someone skydiving with a cat and I kinda never want to watch anything online again...

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."

by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 04:14:53 PM EST
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I use it to practice my Russian listening skills.

If you watch Russian television for even a little while, you will realize that Putin is normal, for a Russian.  I am serious.

I always thought that it was the Russians I knew that were odd.  It's not.  

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 04:20:13 PM EST
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Can you elaborate?  I have no idea what you are talking about.  (Except the listenning skills: it's why I sometimes listen to Ekho Moskvy.)

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 04:25:46 PM EST
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I don't think you understand about the listening skills, ;-)

You see, I speak 2 slavic languages so I get constantly confused between them.  Plus, I have been exposed to people who throw in English words into these languages.  

I have to listen to people speaking in their native countries to get my brain straightened out.  Polish & Russian, for example, share 60% of their vocabulary with small changes in pronunciation.  Ukrainian & Russian, about 75%.

The plus side is that I can understand most slavic languages but cannot speak them very well.  But then, no matter which I speak, the listener can understand most of what I say, even if I mispronounce.  

As for the other part, do you want to know about what's on tv that makes me think Russians are odd, or the experiences in real life?

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 04:40:12 PM EST
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One of my best friends is a multilingual pole, and having her, her Russian friend and a Ukranian visitor having a conversation in three languages, none of which I speak more than a couple of words was an experience.

Interviewer: What do you believe is behind this recent increase in terrorist bombings? Helpmann: Bad sportsmanship
by ceebs (bunchofwankers (at) gmail (dot) com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 04:48:30 PM EST
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yes, it gets rather odd at that particular point in the world and I think that people get rather "different" as well.  All Slavs are kind of different from Westerners in very subtle and unsubtle ways.  

the closest thing I have seen to this would be Spanish/Italian or Spanish/Portuguese but I am sure there may be others

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:01:39 PM EST
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not to mention that huge swathes of territory have been transferred between Poland, Ukraine and Russia over the centuries, with each country taking its turn as the dominant power.  
by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:02:58 PM EST
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Fascinating.

I listen to Russian radio because otherwise I'd never hear much Russian spoken.  Or, when I do hear it, it's not the Russian I think in.  If that makes any sense...  But my job requires I read it everyday.  I can't say I "speak" any other slavic languages, but Russian provides a good basis for rudimentary understanding of most slavic languages, so I regularly find myself reading Ukrainian, Polish, Czech, Serbian, Bulgarian, etc.  Although in order to understand written Polish, I have to sound it out.  Anyway, yes, most people can understand what I say, however broken it is.  And if I can't understand them, it's because of my rusty vocabulary.  

Slightly on topic, I've a friend who is Russian but he has lived in France for years, and insists on only speaking (writing in) Russian, but in some frenchified transliteration instead of Cyrillic, and in casual slang.  Meanwhile I'm writing in broken but textbook Russian.  I think some linguist would have a field day with our exchanges.  It is stunning how many rules of language you can toss out (grammar, alphabet, syntax) and still communicate effectively!  Anyone who knows Russian would totally understand what we are saying, but I'm quite certain it is not Russian we're speaking. ;)

Russians?  Odd?  Get Out!  Ok, I know exactly what you are talking about but have never found a polite way of discussing it.  So I avoid doing so in public.  You can if you want.  I'll let you take the heat.  go for it.

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."

by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:02:15 PM EST
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no way.    My flameproof suit is at the cleaners.  ;-)

Putin though uses Botox.  

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:05:06 PM EST
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I don't doubt it.  His election posters were obviously airbrushed.  It's pretty common among US politicians, botox, etc.  Everyone is made for TV these days.  

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:13:38 PM EST
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as for the 2 political parties, I think that could come from someone whose astrological sign requires "balance" such as Putin ;-)

so I would tend to believe it but I haven't heard it

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:17:19 PM EST
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Oooooh, you're going to get in trouble!  But I'll give you a 4 if this succeeds in bringing J out of hiding...

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:29:16 PM EST
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I was tiptoeing around that one and hoped no one would notice.  

Besides, I have seen some mentions of the evil science here but I am the only one who gets into trouble over it.

That is definitely a case of anti-Canadian discrimination if I've ever seen it.  It's ugly but it exists and we must confront it.  ;-)

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:33:42 PM EST
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Fran has some interesting thoughts, but she is now away. The distinction Fran made, and I think it is a fair one, is between the daily general newspaper horoscopes and the charts based on exactly the time and place of birth.

The French Inquisition of course descended on such whimsicalities immediately.

But my experience is that a) weekly/daily predictions for the general readership are complete nonsense, but that b) in 30 years I've had individual readings that are hard to dispute, wih an innate knowledge of statistics and an acquired radar for bullshit.

I don't know why this should be so. Thus I am interested to discuss. I  expect my warmness to the concept to be proved misplaced - but I'd like to hear the arguments...

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 07:05:05 PM EST
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We can start with confirmation bias.

Or the explanation Gurdjieff offered when he plied the trade of hand reading: Were you present when the chart was interpreted? Humans are awash in non-verbal signals that can be played upon. Great readers carry on fascinating interactions with their customers, well worth a filming.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 08:13:17 PM EST
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one of my relatives was a very good palm reader and I know he wasn't cheating since he only did it as  a hobby.  it almost got him killed as he did not know what not to say to the palm owners.
by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 09:23:25 PM EST
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When are going to admit, as I do, that you enjoy the attention? You turned J into a chump with your Prokovievian Peter and the Wolf act.

Don't be a librarian and hide behind dictionaries, admit that your limited knowledge of idiomatics led you to assertions that you now regret. ;-)

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:40:51 PM EST
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Do NOT belittle my profession.  That's a low blow.

Do NOT attribute Jerome's actions to me.  Jerome came to me, not the other way around.

Do NOT bother me with more of you provocations.

Do NOT assume I have any regrets.  I don't.  None.  Jealous?

I like attention.  At least I'm admitting it.  

Jerome is not a chump and you need to lay off the insults.  He hasn't done anything wrong.  In fact, he's been quite generous to you.  You might start showing some gratitude.


"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."

by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:50:16 PM EST
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Your wish is my command...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 05:52:44 PM EST
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BTW it was you who posted a reference to the original discussion in another thread and thus further spread the meme that was so hurtful.

BTW it was you who posted a diary a few hours later that, in its ingress, either was a brave attempt to continue as normal in the face of 'physical illness' or an attempt at spin.

I don't really care whether I am grata or non grata here - but I would like to lift the fog. Some people have made much appreciated efforts to defend - not me - but the principle.

I'm calling you out.

You can't be me, I'm taken

by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:06:29 PM EST
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Call away.  I'm headed out for the weekend.  Enjoy yourselves...

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:29:50 PM EST
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This is a long term process. Enjoy,,,,,

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:44:46 PM EST
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Colman, were you warning me not to leave for the weekend, or warning me not to tell people to enjoy themselves?  Because the first one I have no control over and the second, well, I thought that was the point.  And a much nicer response than what I might have said.

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Mon Mar 17th, 2008 at 05:42:27 PM EST
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Ah aha! Brave move, sir. The gauntlet is down! Choose your weapons! Let's get ready to rrrrrumble!
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:35:52 PM EST
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I have a horrible feeling I am going to be tag-teamed. But i have been doing this a long time. I hestitate to say 'bring it on', maybe 'expose yourselves' would be better...

You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:48:35 PM EST
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Heh. I think I'm on your side on this one. I'm all for people having thicker skin.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 07:07:46 PM EST
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Checks pulse

Yep, still some life in that horse. Beat it!

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde

by NordicStorm on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:38:35 PM EST
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want to be involved in this. But I've a strong reaction when a person's personal life is involved as part of a serious argument. I honestly believe this type of "catching" a person should be ranked as troll worthy. It's reactionary in the negative sense, and I don't think good comes from that in an already charged environment.

Please don't Sven.

The core of evil is a lack of empathy

by Nomad on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 07:08:17 PM EST
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why are you doing this?

I don't think being a librarian has anything to do with anything,  so why bring it up?

or is it that you want so much to be right that you are alienating a friend?

I was having fun with poemless and vice-versa until you jumped in with a totally unrelated comment.

let it drop, please.

by zoe on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 09:33:52 PM EST
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spasibo!

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Mon Mar 17th, 2008 at 05:43:01 PM EST
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Was looking to pick up a couple of books. Any thoughts on William Taubman's Khrushchyov biography?

"The basis of optimism is sheer terror" - Oscar Wilde
by NordicStorm on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:00:56 PM EST
Know nothing about it.  Sorry.  I really was joking about the "expert" thing... :)

"This is nothing compared to how Putin rigged Eurovision."
by poemless on Fri Mar 14th, 2008 at 06:19:16 PM EST
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