[UPDATE 2] Zapatero's thrusting, dynamic Keynesianism

by Migeru
Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 06:14:22 AM EST

So the Spanish Parliament voted Zapatero PM for a second term on Friday, and he seems to have hit the ground running: the first policy news we have from his government is a public-works Keynesian stimulus to absorb the unemployment from the sagging housing sector. It doesn't get any better than that, or does it?

Autopistas contra el parón - Público.es Highways against the slowdown - Público.es
Más inversión en infraestructuras para compensar el efecto del parón constructor de viviendas. Ésa es la solución propuesta por los constructores que el Gobierno ha asumido para tratar de amortiguar el efecto de la crisis inmobiliaria en la riqueza económica y en el empleo. El Ministerio de Fomento ha sacado a estudio informativo la ampliación de las autopistas Radial 3 hacia la Comunidad Valenciana y la Radial 5 hacia Extremadura, según fuentes del sector. Estos
Estas vías complementan el eje básico de comunicaciones norte-sur y este-oeste ya que van paralelas a la A-3 Madrid-Valencia y la A-5 Madrid-Badajoz. La fase de estudio informativo (para recibir alegaciones) es la previa al concurso, con lo que las constructoras y concesionarias adjudicatarias presentarán oferta en unos meses y podrían empezar las obras este mismo año, siempre que los trámites sean rápidos.  
More infrastructure investment to compensate the effect of the slowdown in home construction. That is the solution proposed by the developers that the Government has adopted to try to cushion the effect of the housing crisis on economic wealth [sic] and employment. The Ministry of Public Works has opened an information study for the expansion of the Radial 3 highway towards the Valencian Community and the Radial 5 towards Extremadura. These roads would be complementary to the basic North-South and East-West axes as they run parallel to the A-3 Madrid-Valencia and the A-5 Madrid-Badajoz. The consultation phase (to receive public comments) is previous to the public tender, so that the constructor and operator companies awarded the projects could present their offers in a few months and work could begin already this year, assuming the formalities are dealt with quickly.


A estas dos ampliaciones se unirá la autopista Radial 1, que irá paralela a la autovía A-1 Madrid-Burgos, conectada con Bilbao por autopista de peaje. Las constructoras y concesionarias tienen de plazo para presentar sus ofertas hasta el jueves, con lo que en pocos meses despegará la obra. These two expansions will join the Radial 1 highway, parallel to the A-1 Madrid-Burgos, connecting with Bilbao via toll roads. The constructors and operators have until Thursday to present their offers, so that in a few months works will take off.
La R-1 es el proyecto más adelantado de Fomento ahora mismo, pero porque no consiguió adjudicarlo en la anterior legislatura. Para el ministerio, los casi 30 kilómetros del primer tramo de la R-1, que saldrán desde la circunvalación M-40 hasta el municipio de El Molar tienen un presupuesto 219 millones de euros. El jueves empezará la puja a la baja de las constructoras para llevarse el proyecto, el sistema habitual. ACS, FCC, Itínere, Cintra, OHL, y el consorcio formado por Abertis y Comsa son las constructoras que por el momento van a competir por la licitación de la R-1, según informa EP. Isolux Corsán y Accina aún estarían estudiando el pliego de las condiciones.Según algunos directivos de las concesionarias que pugnarán por la nueva autopista, "en el Gobierno son conscientes de la necesidad de impulsar la obra civil en este momento". Las infraestructuras pueden absorber una parte de los desempleados procedentes de la construcción de viviendas, aunque no a todos, porque, como explican los expertos, la obra civil emplea más maquinaria que la residencial. The R-1 is the Ministry's project in the most advanced stages at the moment, because it wasn't able to award it in the previous Parliamentary term. For the Ministry, the nearly 30 Km of the first leg of the R-1, which join the M-40 orbital with the municipality of El Molar have a budget of €219M. On Thursday the usual downward bidding process by the building companies to get the project will begin. For the moment ACS, FCC, Itínere, Cintra, OHL and the consortium formed by Abertis and Comsa are the biulders who are going to compete for the R-1, reports EP. Isolux Corsán and Accina would still be studying the conditions of the tender. According to some executives from the operator companies that will bid for the new highway, "in the Government they're aware of the need to boost civil works at this time". Infrastructures can absorb a part of the unemployment coming from home building but not all of them because, experts explain, civil works use more machinery than residential works.
The first thing that comes to my attention is that the idea to tender for two more toll roads appears to have come from the construction companies themselves, and the Government has taken it up motivated by the need to pick up the employment slack. So that's not entirely good, is it? Is it corporate welfare or an active employment policy?

Other criticism that can be levied against this initiative is that toll roads price some users out, especially in this case since there are existing free parallel roads (the autovías) which, some people are pointing out, could do with some maintenance.

Other issues are that, with Peak Oil on the horizon, investing on roads in not exactly the best long-term policy. Maybe money should be spent on railroads or waterways instead? Or on improving the electrical grid, or building more wind farms or solar thermal power stations?

However, as an immediate stop-gap measure, which we're told could be deployed within the year this is probably the best that the government could do. The immortal Keynes said it best:

When involuntary unemployment exists, the marginal disutility of labour is necessarily less than the marginal product. Indeed it may be much less. For a man who has been long unemployed some measure of labour, instead of involving disutility, may have a positive utility. If this is accepted, the above reasoning shows how 'wasteful' loan expenditure may nevertheless enrich the community on balance. Pyramid-building, earthquakes, even wars may serve to increase wealth, if the education of our statesmen on the principles of the classical economics stands in the way of anything better.

It is curious how common sense, wriggling for an escape from absurd conclusions, has been apt to reach a preference for wholly 'wasteful' forms of loan expenditure rather than for partly wasteful forms, which, because they are not wholly wasteful, tend to be judged on strict 'business' principles. For example, unemployment relief financed by loans is more readily accepted than the fiinancing of improvements at a charge below the current rate of interest; whilst the form of digging holes in the ground known as gold-mining, which not only adds nothing whatever to the real wealth of  the world but involved the disutility of labour, is the most acceptable of all solutions.

So, hey, building three new roads is wasteful, but not actually wholly wasteful, so it's not all bad.
Ancient Egypt was doubly fortunate, and doubtless owed to this its fabled wealth, in that it possessed two activities, namely pyramid-building as well as the search for the precious metals, the fruits of which, since they could not serve the needs of man by being consumed, did not stale with abundance. The Middle Ages built cathedrals and sang dirges. Two pyramids, two masses for the dead, are twice as good as one; but not so two railways from London to York. Thus we are so sensible, have schooled ourselves to so close a semblant of prudent financiers, taking careful thought before we add to the 'financial' burdens of posterity by building them houses to live in, that we have no such easy escape from the sufferings of unemployment. We have to accept them as inevitable results of applying to the conduct of the State the maxims which are best calculated to 'enrich' an individual by enabling him to pile up claims to enjoyment which he does not intend to exercise at any definite time.
But, clearly, in Spain two roads from Madrid to Badajoz are twice as good as one, as long as one of the two roads is a toll road.

Update [2008-4-16 3:19:25 by Migeru]: As pointed out by kcurie in the comments, this is in addition to Zapatero's election pledge to spend €1.2 billion and loan a further €8 billion to improve the energy efficiency of the existing building stock in Spain (new buildings are already subject to strict energy efficiency standards put in place during his first term).

Zapatero promete 1.000 millones de euros para la rehabilitación energética de edificios antiguos · ELPAÍS.com Zapatero promises €1 billion for the energy retrofitting of old buildings - ElPaís.com
EFE 10/12/2007 EFE 10 December 2007
El jefe del Gobierno, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, ha anunciado un plan de rehabilitación energética de edificios ya construidos que contempla un aumento del 20% de las ayudas directas a los hogares para lograr que mejoren el ahorro y la eficiencia energética. Este 20% se traduciría en un paquete total de 1.000 millones de euros. Hace 15 días, el presidente anunció aunque no concreto un plan de incentivos para los hogares destinado a poner a España en la "primera línea" contra el cambio climático. The head of Government, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, has announced an energy rehabilitation plan for existing buildings including a 20% increase in direct aid to households to achieve improvements in energy savings and efficiency. This 20% would translate into a total package of €1 billion. A fortnight ago, the Prime Minister announced (but didn't make precise) an icentives plan for households destined to put Spain "on the front line" against climate change.
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Durante la clausura del Foro sobre calidad ambiental y progreso social del PSOE, cuyas conclusiones aprovechará el partido para elaborar su programa electoral, Zapatero ha anunciado también que una línea de crédito del ICO de 2.000 millones de euros anuales (8.000 en la legislatura) que permitirá a los hogares financiar la parte de la reforma que no quede cubierta con las ayudas directas. During the closing of the PSOE's Forum on envoronmental quality and social progress, whose conclusions will be used by the party to elaborate its electoral platform, Zapatero has also announced a €2 billion/year (€8bn over the next parliamentary term) credit line from the ICO (Official Credit Institute) which will allow households to finance the part of the reform which is not covered by direct aid
Además, se dedicará un fondo de 200 millones de euros para financiar obras de sostenibilidad energética en edificios y escuelas públicas en ciudades de más de 50.000 habitantes, siguiendo el modelo de "ciudades responsables" del ex presidente de Estados Unidos Bill Clinton. In addition, a €200 million fund will be devoted to financing energy sustainability works on public buildings and schools in towns over 50,000 inhabitants, following the "responsible cities" model of the former US president Bill Clinton.

Apart from confirming his intention to go ahead with these plans, in the investiture debate last week he outlined a broad economic stimulus package including both fiscal measures and a strengthening of the social safety net.

Noticias Ya.com: Zapatero anuncia medidas urgentes para hacer frente a la desaceleracion economica News Ya.com: Zapatero announces
08/04/2008 08 April 2008
Zapatero anunció un conjunto de medidas para hacer frente a la desaceleración económica, con especial hincapié en el sector de la construcción, que el nuevo Ejecutivo aprobará la primera semana de su constitución. Zapatero announced a collection of measures to face the economic slowdown, with especial emphasis on the contruction sector, which the new Cabinet will approve during the first week after being constituted.
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Ante esta situación, avanzó las principales medidas que el nuevo Gobierno adoptará con carácter urgente, entre las que citó la deducción de 400 euros en el IRPF para pensionistas, asalariados y autónomos, una ayuda que calificó de "importante" y de un "impulso" para la economía, y el adelanto de las devoluciones del IVA a los empresarios, que les permitirá recuperar el impuesto soportado con más celeridad. Facing this situation [of poor economic prospects], he anticipated the new measures to be adopted urgently by the Government, among them a €400 income tax deduction for pensioners, wage earners and self-employed, an aid that he described as "important" and a "stimulus" for the economy, as well as an advance of VAT refunds to entrepreneurs, which will allow then to recover the tax burden more quickly.
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Asimismo, se ampliará el aval público para los bonos de titulización que tengan como subyacente créditos para adquisición de viviendas de protección oficial, se pondrá en marcha un plan especial de recolocación de parados en el sector de la construcción y un refuerzo de la cobertura de desempleo para trabajadores en situación de mayor necesidad y se facilitará la ampliación del plazo de la hipoteca sin coste para las familias con especial dificultad. In addition, the public collateralization of securitised bonds will be expanded to include those whose underlying are loans for the purchase of social housing, a special plan for the re-employment of unemployed workers from the construction sector will be started, aas well as a reinforcement of [welfare] coverage for those workers in greater need, and the term of cost-free mortgages will be expanded for those families in especial hardship.

In my opinion, one could do much worse than this.

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All hail Zapatero and his Keynesian cojones!

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 03:32:28 PM EST
With a hat tip to alv for pointing out this story to me.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 03:34:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What about Migeru sells out his environmentalist soul to satisfy his Keynesian devil?

"It's a mystery to me - the game commences, For the usual fee - plus expenses, Confidential information - it's in my diary..."
by Frank Schnittger (mail Frankschnittger at hot dotty communists) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 04:44:03 PM EST
LOL

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 04:50:33 PM EST
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This is absurd.

There is NO selling your "environmentalist soul to satisfy his Keynesian devil."

We have a spanish PM who is at LEAST brave enough to stand up to the neoliberal slumlords but unfortunately has no better ideas than build some more roads.

Now WHOSE problem is THAT?  You think more roadbuilding is an environmental crime, then SUGGEST SOMETHING BETTER.  And if you cannot think of better ideas on your own, read Tony's list at the end of his most excellent diary:
http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2008/2/12/01428/8866
or try
http://www.popularmechanics.com/rebuildingamerica

I got a lot of ideas at my site as well.
http://www.elegant-technology.com

You know, if "environmentalists" don't come up with ideas that are little better than hippie sentimentality, then they should just shut up.  I have spent my adult life having to listen to "green" bullshit delivered with furrow-browed concern and religious levels of moral outrage while the systems necessary for survival have been allowed to rot.  35 YEARS wasted on feeling groovy.  35 YEARS of being for nothing more imaginative than raising CAFE standards or saving the Arctic Wildlife Preserve.  35 YEARS of the environmental movement refusing to grow up and actually doing something important.  35 YEARS of people who believe that one more meeting held in an air-conditioned room will solve the energy problems.

If we really are entering into a new Keynesian era, it is a moment of enormous opportunity for anyone with a really green agenda.  But we MUST be aware of the charlatans.  I was once roped into a group dedicated to advancing the goal of a more sustainable agriculture--a worthy goal indeed.  The group represented the usual suspects--organic gardening, anti-GM, anti chemical, humane animal care, etc. etc.  Not represented were scientific practitioners like agronomists, agricultural economists, producer cooperatives, and of course, any real farmers.  I left when it became obvious this was organized insanity--the chairman kept saying that he wanted attendees at his proposed conference to dance around a Maypole to help focus their thoughts on sustainability.  (I am NOT making this up!)

Yes, I know about the dangers of being FOR something.  If you support or promote an idea or agenda, you remove yourself from the pool of critics and become an object of criticism.  I have discovered that is a jump only about 5% have the courage to make.  

And then you have to do your homework.  If the environmental movement wants a world better that what they now see, they've got some damn high performance targets.  Supplying a reliable supply of electricity or drinking water is actually harder than it sounds.  And no matter how excellent your pot, coming up with something better is going to require a LOT of investment, training, and hard work.  

Unfortunately, merely wanting something very badly is never enough to make a better world.

But cheers to Mig and his fellow Spaniards.  If they really have a Keynesian (or whatever we choose to call a pro-producer agenda this time around) for PM, that removes the biggest obstacle to building the sustainable future.  And it's not like Spain has a shortage of targets.  Fresh water seems most obvious.  Time for Spain to become the world leader in solar-powered de-salinization, huh?

"Remember the I35W bridge--who needs terrorists when there are Republicans"

by techno (reply@elegant-technology.com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 03:36:04 PM EST
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Thanks for that rant, techno!
We have a spanish PM who is at LEAST brave enough to stand up to the neoliberal slumlords but unfortunately has no better ideas than build some more roads.

Now WHOSE problem is THAT?  You think more roadbuilding is an environmental crime, then SUGGEST SOMETHING BETTER.  And if you cannot think of better ideas on your own, read Tony's list at the end of his most excellent diary:
http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2008/2/12/01428/8866
or try
http://www.popularmechanics.com/rebuildingamerica

I got a lot of ideas at my site as well.
http://www.elegant-technology.com

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But cheers to Mig and his fellow Spaniards.  If they really have a Keynesian (or whatever we choose to call a pro-producer agenda this time around) for PM, that removes the biggest obstacle to building the sustainable future.  And it's not like Spain has a shortage of targets.  Fresh water seems most obvious.  Time for Spain to become the world leader in solar-powered de-salinization, huh?

I think that together with kcurie's plead for light rail and DoDo's for new branchlines and commuter rail could be the kernel of a letter of that letter to Zapatero and Solbes that kcurie and I keep threatening to write.

9 billion euros for the construction sector is good, but maybe a few million for R+D into renewable energies wouldn't be bad either, and it would provide jobs for all the young Spanish physicist and engineers I know (myself included) who are working in anything but real physics or engineering. It would also be an excuse to increase Spain's R+D budget as a fraction of GDP and bring it closer to the EU average.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 05:50:53 PM EST
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As far as I can see, you can take off the R in R&D, when it comes to renewable energy. What do we lack at this moment in terms of research and innovation? Nothing as important as simple implementation of the technologies that we have. That's where the dollars need to go: public investment in systems, tax incentives, and grants/loans.

paul spencer
by paul spencer (spencerinthegorge AT yahoo DOT com) on Thu Apr 17th, 2008 at 03:56:29 PM EST
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"If You Build It, Ponies Come!"

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 06:12:15 PM EST
But isn't there anything else that could be socially beneficial, employ large numbers of people, and be started in a short term?

Maybe money should be spent on railroads or waterways instead? Or on improving the electrical grid, or building more wind farms or solar thermal power stations?

However, as an immediate stop-gap measure, which we're told could be deployed within the year this is probably the best that the government could do.

This explains the oceans of concrete and cement which have been spilled all over Japan over the last few decades.

But is it so certain that building roads is the only one of the projects you listed that could be engaged within the year?  I suppose railroads and waterways would be more complex and would require a longer planning period before large numbers of workers could be employed.  Is that also the case for deploying wind farms, solar thermal power stations, or some other socially beneficial projects?

A language is a dialect with an army and navy.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 03:13:13 AM EST
Well, it may have come out more erotic than I intended but I think this is partly a response to

Frank Schnittger:

OK so Migeru advocates a return to Keynesianism; Crazy Horse a move out of military to productive industrial expenditure; and Jerome a move away from "financial services" towards investment in more productive and infrastructural sectors of the economy - with a particular emphasis on renewable energy.  

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In other words I don't think what you guys advocate is all that radical - and any "western economy" can and will adopt those strategies if military adventures fail, financial services crash, energy prices rise and Unions re sufficiently organised and militant about wage rates and social services.  But what I think is lacking is an alternative intellectual paradigm which makes those changes the obvious "common sense" policies visible to all - particularly to the voters.

...

I remain to be convinced that the "anglo disease" analysis is anything more than a fairly obvious rearranging of the deck chairs that any more competent management would do in any case.  It doesn't provide an ideology capable of motivating a mass movement to change the fundamental realities of power - in Europe, the US or the global world order.  It's simply a more rational form of capitalism.

I do believe you're correct and that, in a climate of deflation with substantial private assets in government-run (postal) savings accounts, Japan has deliberately encouraged construction as a way to avoid economic meltdown.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 02:32:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]
What keeps Zapatero from a Keynesian push to construct branchlines and better suburban railway networks?...

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 04:58:28 AM EST
My question as well.

(Is it that the construction of branchlines and railway networks could only get started after an unacceptably long planning period [and so workers could not be hired quickly enough]?)

A language is a dialect with an army and navy.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 05:25:58 AM EST
[ Parent ]
No. Subways and high-speed lines can be got started slow, but surface local rail usually goes in the same timeframe as local roads. (I would even say that highways are in-between high-speed and local rail in time requirement, but I don't know about highways in Spain.)

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 05:43:55 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Can we think of reasons why the companies might prefer to build roads?
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 05:59:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]
As Migeru indicated, they can own them and collect toll.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:00:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Plus, sustain prior capacity without shifting to other type of construction.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:01:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]
As Migeru indicated, they can own them and collect toll.

I must be missing something.  They can't own rail tracks and charge for riding them?

Plus, sustain prior capacity without shifting to other type of construction.

But if the point is using Keynesian spending to generate jobs in the first place, then isn't building new capacity -- especially in more natural resource and environmentally friendly transportation -- a good sort of "semi-waste"?

A language is a dialect with an army and navy.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:27:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Plus, sustain prior capacity without shifting to other type of construction.

But if the point is using Keynesian spending to generate jobs in the first place, then isn't building new capacity -- especially in more natural resource and environmentally friendly transportation -- a good sort of "semi-waste"?

Right, but I asked about the companies.

Basically I would venture that the big construction firms in Spain are very politically influential and they've used that influence to shape these proposals.

They wanted roads because it fits more easily with their existing workforce and equipment.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:32:02 AM EST
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Absolutely.

Huge construction companies know how to build roads and high speed trains fast... but not conventional trains..

and unfortuantely.. very unfortutantely they do not know how to build ligth trains "en masse".

Actually I am not sure if any company in Europe could construct the amount of money proposed in light railways for suburban travel.

Underground is out of the question since it take years and not a lot of people are needed to build it compared witht the initial money (money it mostly goes to high-tech jobs related with building and keeping the huge machinery needed to make the tunnels).

Another sad point is that spanish companies do not have know-how on conventional train lines for commodities trasnport... it is like an underground for them..and they do it very slow... they do fast train lines faster than normal lines since thay were trained during the Madirid-Sevilla line 15 years ago.

So road.. and keeping with the high investment in wind energy, fast lines and some undergrounds (metros) under construction and housing rehabilitation (the really bright spot if it is done properly).

Plus 400 euros per person.... Keynnes.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:55:20 AM EST
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The capacity I mean is the construction company's capacity. They are set up to construct highways at a high pace (they also have capacity for high-speed railways and subways), meaning machines and men.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:32:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Nothing, I suppose, other than lack of imagination. Suburban rail (cercanías) is the competence of Renfe, not of the local or regional governments.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 06:00:17 AM EST
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It is really apity that no spanish company knows how to build light trains for metroplitan transport "en masse". It is fast to make, requires a lot of people to do it, and low investment on machinery (so it creeates a lot of jobs)... but you need to know how to put all the money at the same time.. and there are not enough people in the business to make the hundreds of projects required to absorve the money.

The brigth side of the proposal of the Keynnes project proposed is housing rehabilitation. This is badly needed in Spain.. and with some luck it will improve the energy savings of Spain by quite a significative amount... the new construction code forces huge saving on any new construction, and if rehabilitation is done following this code we will have a huge, green investment employing thousands of people to save energy.

Still, we need more conventional rail lines for transporting food around Spain..and we are not gettinng any... one day, really we should write a letter to Zapatero and Solbes :)

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 07:00:43 AM EST
kcurie:
The bright side of the proposal of the Keynes project proposed is housing rehabilitation. This is badly needed in Spain... and with some luck it will improve the energy savings of Spain by quite a significant amount... the new construction code forces huge saving on any new construction, and if rehabilitation is done following this code we will have a huge, green investment employing thousands of people to save energy.
Do you have a link for that?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 02:43:57 PM EST
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Sure

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/Zapatero/promete/1000/millones/euros/rehabilitacion/energetica /edificios/antiguos/elpepuesp/20071210elpepunac_4/Tes

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 02:49:56 PM EST
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Or

http://noticias.ya.com/espana/08/04/2008/zapatero-medidas-crisis.html

I do not find anything in english (half decent)

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 02:52:34 PM EST
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I'll update the diary with more bilingual content.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 03:05:33 PM EST
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thrusting, cojones.... and sagging? You need to work on keeping your suggestive vocab in line.
by MarekNYC on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 10:53:13 AM EST
Don't be silly.  It's all very homo-erotic.  Just like Keynes (pre-Lydia).

Be nice to America. Or we'll bring democracy to your country.
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 12:48:37 PM EST
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The "thrusting" was contributed by Colman.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 01:44:33 PM EST
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Too Much Information!
by MarekNYC on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 01:45:06 PM EST
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He started it.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 01:45:49 PM EST
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I thought parents of newborns are all way too sleep deprived for that sort of stuff anyways - at least that's the impression I get from my friends.
by MarekNYC on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 01:54:57 PM EST
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What, Keynesianism?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 01:57:16 PM EST
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Have I mentioned I love TribExt?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 06:08:41 AM EST
some good news about public economic policy... feels so strange.

Incidentally, is this plan getting slammed by neolibs and/or political opponents?

Hopefully all this thrusting will result in healthy offspring that Zapatero will be able to show off to rest of Europe -- and to the world -- as model children.

A language is a dialect with an army and navy.

by marco (cowannar at gmail punkt com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 06:54:24 AM EST
Migeru:

The Council President has to be someone who has the ability to facilitate coalition building within the council and broker agreements. Blair is not the person for this, he has shown that in spades through ten years of experience on the Council as PM, and for six months while he held the rotating presidency. Taking a cue from redstar's latest diary, I'd say that the Council President should be a former Foreign Minister of a mid-sized country. [My emphasis]

And he should be a real social democrat who does not cow-tow to conservatives (or conservative-wanna-bes)

Check, check and check. Why isn't this guy running?

- Jake

"Terraforming your own planet to make it uninhabitable hardly counts as epic win." - ThatBritGuy

by JakeS (JangoSierra 'at' gmail 'dot' com) on Wed Apr 16th, 2008 at 12:08:26 PM EST


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