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Thoughts on the BBC Temperature Scandal

by Luis de Sousa
Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 03:28:53 AM EST


Animation by Michael Ronayne.

Now that the dust is settling, it is perhaps time to reflect on this episode and what it meant to the mainstream media and the blogosphere.


The plot

On Friday, the 4th of April, the BBC on-line published an article by environmental journalist Roger Harrabin entitled Global Warming 'dips this year'.

As seen in the picture above it included the sentences:


Global temperatures this year will be lower than in 2007 due to the cooling effect of the La Nina current in the Pacific, UN meteorologists have said.

[...]

This would mean global temperatures have not risen since 1998, prompting some to question climate change theory.
But experts have also forecast a record high temperature within five years.

Still in the morning of that day activist and blogger Jo Abbess writes an e-mail to Harrabin with the subject Correction Demanded : "Global temperatures 'to decrease'". Abbess demands alterations to the article using the following argumentation:


You should not mislead people into thinking that the sum total of the Earth system is going to be cooler in 2008 than 2007. For example, the ocean systems of temperature do not change in yearly timescales, and are massive heat sinks that have shown gradual and continual warming. It is only near-surface air temperatures that will be affected by La Nina, plus a bit of the lower atmosphere.

Harrabin promptly answers negatively. After all every piece of data on global temperature is showing a decrease in temperature in 2008:

If the secy-gen of the WMO tells me that global temperatures will decrease, that's what we will report [...]

On the second iteration Abbess changes strategy:

I will forward your comments (unless you object) to some people who may wish to add to your knowledge.

But Harrabin is standing still, and shows he understands the risk he's taking:

Best to tackle this - and explain it, which is what we have done
Or people feel like debate is being censored which makes them v suspicious

On the third iteration Abbess makes it more clear on a long message that includes the following paragraph in the end:

I am about to send your comments to others for their contribution, unless you request I do not. They are likely to want to post your comments on forums/fora, so please indicate if you do not want this to happen. You may appear in an unfavourable light because it could be said that you have had your head turned by the sceptics.

Harrabin breaks:

Have a look in 10 minutes and tell me you are happier
We have changed headline and more

It all took just a bit over one hour.

But if all of this is bad, it gets worse, Abbess takes no time and promptly publishes this e-mail exchange in her blog for everyone to see.

The reactions

As would be expected this little story made the delights of the Climate Sceptic world. Undeniable proof of fact occultation by and manipulation of the mainstream media was there in the open for everyone to see. Some reactions are worth reading:

Andrew Orlowski at The Register :

La Niña is the cooling phase of what's called the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO), which affects the sea surface in the central and eastern Equatorial Pacific. Niña alternates with El Nino, which raises temperatures. We're entering the Niña phase. Global temperatures have been static from their 1998 peak, when El Nino peaked.

It's nicely illustrated by this graph:


The ENSO cycle

Which also shows how foolish it is to extrapolate anything from short-term trends.

The plateau in temperature this century was acknowledged by IPCC chief Dr Rajendra Pachauri back in January.

Marc Sheppard at American Thinker:


While the original's opened the door to reasoned debate, the opening paragraphs of the latest rendition purposely slam that door shut.  Not coincidentally, Abbess had demanded that certain things be made clear "in the first few paragraphs."  And now they were, morphing the article's tenor from dialogue to lecture with a minimum of extorted word processing.

I wonder if Mr. Harrabin appreciates the irony of what he has done.  Particularly that he did so partly in response to the suggestion that being "insufficiently educated to be able to know when [he has] been psychologically manipulated" might make him an "unreliable reporter."

Michael Ronayne at JunkScience:

Roger Harrabin is an old pro and I would have expected better of him. It is as if he wanted to be caught or had done this so many times before that he truly believed that no one would call him on it or both. Roger's undoing was that he evidently did not realize how incredibly stupid Jo Abbess was.

Jo Abbess is an absolute delight. In one BLOG posting she set the cause of AGW back thirty years. She confirmed everything which the Climate [Skeptics | Deniers | Nonbelievers | Nonconformists | Infidels | Atheists | Heretics] have been saying about the manipulation of the media for years. One has to wonder if Jo is not a double-agent working for Exxon-Mobil or the Bush Administration, so extensive is the damage she has committed. If she had none absolutely nothing the story would have disappeared in the 24 hour news cycle but not now.

If you can bare his antics, you can see a Glenn Beck interview to Noel Sheppard here.

Up to the moment there's no articulate reaction from the BCC or Harrabin.

What it means?

There is a potential positive aspect to all this: a major mainstream media institution was able to hear a blogger and show some sensitiveness to what she said. Abbess is not a scientist with a trail of peer reviewed papers in her CV, she is just a regular person, like most of the people constituting this tribune, trying to bring attention to the issues that she thinks are important.

But what made the journalist change his mind were not facts or data (which couldn't) but coercion, the impending foreclosure of his career. This changes the scene completely. How can someone apparently innocuous put the carer of a BBC journalist in check?

Was this a story on Oil production would it have been changed so easily? Being the Resource Cornucupians the Goliath of this debate, have they the same grip on mainstream media as activists like Abbess?

Explaining the unexplainable

But there is something unexplainable in this episode, why did Abbess published the e-mail exchange?

It had two effects: first it gave the meat to grind for the Climate Skeptic camp, but most important than that, it ruined Harrabin's carer. Harrabin will forever be the name of the journalist that was forced to change a story on Global Warming in total disregard for the journalism impartiality ethics. There are no news of it yet, but his resignation from the BBC is the most likely scenario at the moment.

Why did Abbess proceed this way? Why penalize someone that showed sensitive for your cause? Was Harrabin an example? A victim executed to show his peers that Global Warming should not be subject to questioning?

Or was this a message to the Skeptic camp? Showing that there's no use in going for the mainstream media, facts or data that can raise doubts on Global Warming will not see the light of day?

Only Abbess can explain such enigmatic behaviour.

Back to data

The temperature anomalies for the first quarter of this year are out from the four major monitoring institutes. While for January and February all agree on lower temperatures, March is another of those upsetting months were Satellite and Station data part ways. Nevertheless, this cold first quarter is already enough to conclude that 2008 won't be warmer than previous years (and will be considerably cooler than 1998).

Two or three months of cold don't say much about a possible secular warming trend. Even if the globe is going through a new decadal climatic shift, leading to a period of cooling (like the 1940s - 1970s) an underling warming trend could still be present.

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I had completely missed this. Interesting read.

Any thoughts on the correction the Hadley Centre had recently done on the presentation of their monthly temperature data because 2008 was turning out to be too cold to be true?

Also, I've never found a proper publication for this, but Hans Erren (a renowned / infamous climate sceptic, and ex-geophysicist) put up data suggesting that annual temperature increase is more relying on increase in winter temperatures than on increasing summer temperatures. Which, if so, the first cold quarter would make the mean T of 2008 indeed a relatively cool year.

From his website:

With the current La Niña predicted to stay around for at least 3 more months, 2008 is shaping up to be a downward blip.

by Nomad on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 05:21:05 AM EST
The correction was justifiable. But strangely, the mistake was only found when temperatures went down. While the graph was pointing upwards (like last year) the malpractice went unchecked.

During a warming period winters change faster in the Temperate regions, because with the lower temperature gradient between Poles and Tropics there's less cold polar air coming towards lower latitudes. Also, the snow cover diminishes.

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 06:17:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Climate Audit - by Steve McIntyre » Like a Dog on a Bone
UC observed a couple of days ago that Hadley Center, authors of the pre-eminent temperature series, have suddenly identified an "error" in how they presented temperature data. For presentation of their smoothed temperature series in a part-year situation, their methodology calculated the average of months then available and used that to estimate the current year's temperature for presentation purposes.
Holy crap! Not accounting for seasonality? are they out of their minds? An "error" all right.
For their influential graphic showing smoothed temperature series, they used a 21-point binomial filter (this is reported) extrapolating the latest number for 10 years.
A fancy-schmancy 21-point binomial filter with no seasonality correction. Can we say Garbage Model, Garbage Out?
This obviously places a lot of leverage on January and February temperatures. (UC has replicated their smoothing method; he sent me code and I've confirmed that we can exactly replicate their smoothing methods.)


When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 06:36:56 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Yeah, forgetting such a basic thing staggers belief. (Though I'm guessing that normally, North and South hemisphere data balance out most of the seasonal variation, so it should not be THAT obvious.)

For what it's worth, here is the original source.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 09:51:25 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The Northern and Southern Hemispheres have taken different paths since the 1998 peak. This is more visible in the satellite data, but here's a HadCRUT graph I compiled some time back:

This gentle downward trend since 2002 is not present in the Northern Hemisphere data. So I don't think the seasonal variations mask the error that much.

But this malpractice is not that shocking to me. We have to look at longer time series to have a real sense of these things.

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 10:47:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]
This gentle downward trend since 2002 is not present in the Northern Hemisphere data. So I don't think the seasonal variations mask the error that much.

I don't follow you. How does a multi-year gentle trend negate the (partial, statistical) masking of more rapid seasonal variation?

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:40:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Considering that the repartition of land, water, vegetation, and human population and activity between the northern and southern hemispheres is far from even, I would be surprised if things balanced out. This is borne out in An Inconvenient Truth where the CO2 concentration is shown to have a yearly oscillation superimposed on the overall growing trend, which is explained by the fact that in the Northern Winter vegetation releases CO2 which is captured back in the summer. The difference in plant cover between North and South hemispheres is large enough to have a visible effect seasonal effect on atmospheric measurements.

But the basic point is that if you have a monthly weather data time series you know there is a 12-month cycle in the data that needs to be extracted especially if you're trying to construct a yearly time series.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 10:55:45 AM EST
[ Parent ]
The latter point I didn't call into question. I'm not claiming perfect balancing, just enough for the seasonal effect to not be that obvious most of the time.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:43:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
In any case, it does seem to me that a 12-month moving average would have been better than extrapolating a whole year from two months of data.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:49:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]
A reasonable reply to this ruckus would be to post separate time series of temperatures during La Niñas and El Niños.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 09:54:17 AM EST
10 years ago I saw a presentation by a German research group on using Principal Component Analysis to identify (additive) modes of variation in global atmospheric and oceanic data. This could then be used to reduce the dimensionality of the dynamical system. I forget (though I probably wasn't paying attention to that detail) whether El Niño/La Niña was identified as being associated to one of the modes.

Using such a model one could hope to "subtract" the effect of the El Niño Southern Oscillation from global temperature data.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 10:49:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]

There's a lot to read in this thread at ClimateAudit.

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:21:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]
That's a very good fit. Can we see a time series of the residuals? Are they random or do they trend?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:29:11 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm sorry that's a borrowed graph ;).

I never studied the ENSO index that deep. If you want to pursue this I believe you can downlaod the data from NOAA's website.

El Niño and La Niña can have a very visible impact on the global temperature because they encompass a large area of the Globe (e.g. 1998 temp peak). But I think these phenomena are an effect and not a cause.

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:57:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]
And what about a longer period of time, not just a dozen years?

But what I meant was a more direct graph. Instead of a silly debate 'comparing' an El Niño-time 1998 peak with a current La Niña descent, let's see the ENSO peaks resp. ENSO 'valleys' as separate time series.

One comment in Luis's Climate Audit link has a graph attempting something more: subtracting the ENSO effect.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:29:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
"...acts or data that can raise doubts on Global Warming"

...Of which this two month cooling trend is certainly not an instance, as you seem to agree, unless one believes that the fact that the next three days are going to be colder than the past three means that summer will not arrive this year.

I mean, you have a warming trend that's expected to be in the +0.04oC per year range and inter-year variation (fluctuations) which is two orders of magnitude higher: it is not only possible but statistically certain, given enough time, that a graph of average yearly temperature over time will not be monotonically increasing.

Having cleared that, I wonder what the relevant budget at Abbess' disposal for influencing the media is, compared to that of ExxonMobile say. Also I can't imagine the point of bringing up here the arguments of neocon Rush Limbaughoid bloggers and industry front groups: Of course every argument should be judged on its own merit, but (with the exception of a few outlier twats like Cockburn) there seems to be a very robust statistical connection between (dumb - as opposed to informed) climate change denialism and a host of other aspects of American Far-Right Wingnuttery, enough for me to plead for a moratorium on links to neocon blogs, from this bastion of Eurabia at least. I note that less shrill "skeptics", don't think that this is that big of a deal.

Finally:

But what made the journalist change his mind were not facts or data (which couldn't) but coercion, the impending foreclosure of his career. This changes the scene completely. How can someone apparently innocuous put the carer of a BBC journalist in check?

I'm sorry but the exchange by itself doesn't prove coercion. It might possibly suggest that others far more qualified objected to the article: in order to have coercion one must have something to coerce with, and unless Harrabin is an idiot, I can't imagine how he could believe that the publication of the correspondence between a ("experts have also forecast a record high temperature within five years" indeed) wingnut and him (which hardly would portray him as a climate skeptic to any but the most moronic of readers), could in any way damage his career. I'm perfectly willing to accept that he may have received complaints from much more credentialed sources, but that Jo Shmo the blogger "coerced" him into doing this I really, really doubt. Furthermore if Abbess plays a leading role in the Vast Climate Change Conspiracy this means that it is a less than potent conspiracy, surely, that uses her as an instrument... Thus to your question "Why did Abbess proceed this way?", absent some unidentified powerful backers, the most probable answer is "because she didn't know any better".

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 10:37:50 AM EST
I find this comment walking a fine line here.

You explicitly call for the blocking of opinions that do not fit your view of the world. That is unacceptable. Freedom of Expression is a paramount building stone of Europe.

In regard for the ET rule of conduct I will leave this comment unrated, which won't be the case next time.

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:04:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
[ET Moderation Technology™]

to plead for a moratorium on links to neocon blogs is all the same a lot more reasonable than an explicit call for the blocking of opinions that do not fit your view of the world.

And the rest of Talos' comment seems fairly argued.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:16:30 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I believe it is so if you're not a neocon.

Vencit omnia veritas.
by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:24:07 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Why is a moratorium on sourcing from neocon blogs reasonable? As usual, it should be possible to rebut or at least cast doubt on false claims.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:40:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]
afew wrote more reasonable that what Luis made of it: a no linking policy is not barring certain opinions. (Just as no linking to Little Green Footballs or The Sun, as practiced by many bloggers, doesn't mean they don't discuss content therein.) I don't think the lack of a link makes the rebuttal of false claims impossible. And a call for a moratorium, which we will reject, I don't see as trolling.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:08:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I didn't mean to convey that I was supporting a call to block neo-con or any other sites. I wanted to point out that talos' language didn't amount to what Luis said, that his comment overall made some reasonable points, and there was no reason to talk of downrating.

When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 03:31:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]
I don't do anything of the sort. First the reference to this corner of Eurabia, surely is enough of a hint to suggest that the "pleading" is in jest. In fact half of the diaries here are constructed around debunking stories from all sorts of links to that dark other side. Such a prohibition would be counterproductive for Eurotrib. Second even if it were serious (which I repeat it isn't), there is a vast gaping abyss between pleading to avoid links to the most extreme cases of neocon/paleocon wingnuttery - quite possibly paid wingnuttery at that (a judgment call surely, but one to which I think I am entitled - and I note that I have explicitly suggested that Abbess is equally a wingnut regarding her behaviour) and "blocking opinions that do not fit my view of the world". Thirdly, Freedom of Expression in this case does not mean that every website should present equally all possible political positions. It is quite possible for a group of people who share a website to agree to avoid presenting or even mentioning certain opinions (which I repeat for the third time is not what I'm doing here), without any injury to freedom of expression, as long as the people who hold the positions opposed by that group are free to create another website to counter the group's arguments. I mean what exactly is the position here, that somehow if I (we, they) decide to start an activist website opposing creationism, I am somehow morally obliged to host the most ardent supporters of intelligent design?

Anyway, my apologies if my irony was invisible. I insist however that I can't for the love of God see how, while a debate on these matters might be possible, industry shills and ideologically driven Rush Limbaugh type extremists are are useful or necessary to this conversation.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake

by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 03:09:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]
How can we separate dumb climate change denialism from informed c.c. denialism? How can we separate dumb global warming defense from informed global warming defense?

In other words, who can really participate in this discussion?
Only the experts? Like we Don't do it in the economy? There is already a direct impact on the economy made resulting from the reasoning on the causes of recent climatic change. So it has enteredd the economical realm. That is a point in favour of giving to this debate a similar treatment.

I guess a fundamental base to a fair discussion would be to not to use "climate change" in defining the the opposing parties, but "Anthropogenic" vs. "Non-Anthropogenic" Climate (temperature) Change (which can go up or down).

by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 04:56:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Is every (anthropogenic) climate change sceptic a denialist?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 04:58:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Hmmm, not all those who find hard to believe in any God are Atheists, some call themselves Agnostics. I could not stay in the fence in that one, and defined myself as an Atheist.
Staying in the fence is the hardest position, and i am in the process of jumping (in this issue).
by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 06:07:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Abstract, much proper answer: To be a skeptic is to be in doubt, not necessarily to be sure of an opposing interpretation.
by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 02:52:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I'm not sure what denialist includes here, so I can just say that many anthropogenic climate change skeptics are obviously well informed. In order to criticize legitimate researchers beyond that, I would have to be a climatologist or feel reasonably comfortable with the relevant scientific literature (or there would have to be a particularly egregious error). I'm not. being a physicist by training I can follow the arguments up to a point at least, and I can take implicitly sides in an ongoing debate among researchers etc (as a physicist, I also tend to be impressed by evidence such as this). This is something I wouldn't be able to do in a debate about, say, medical issues. General knowledge of what a computer model is, of  statistics, having heard of the Navier-Stokes equation and the Coriolis force, knowing what a grid is and what the difference between cirrus and cumulus clouds is - that is the kind of knowledge without which I can't imagine being able to begin making heads or tails of the debate.

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom - William Blake
by talos (mihalis at gmail dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 09:26:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Why did Abbess proceed this way? Why penalize someone that showed sensitive for your cause? Was Harrabin an example? A victim executed to show his peers that Global Warming should not be subject to questioning?

Or was this a message to the Skeptic camp? Showing that there's no use in going for the mainstream media, facts or data that can raise doubts on Global Warming will not see the light of day?

Only Abbess can explain such enigmatic behaviour.

I fail to see what is strange in her behaviour. She tries to inform a journalist in order to better an article. When it appears she is failing she tells him that she will forward the conversation - unless he asks her not to - to others who might post it online. Please note that he is given the option of saying nay. I do not see this as a threath, I see it as being polite before she brings in other people.

Having eventually succeeded - and Harrabin not having said nay - she posts the whole thing to inform and show her fellow activists that change is possible.

Her behaviour is only strange if you assume that she is part of the Global Warming Conspiracy. So the reasonable thing would be not to assume that. Their is no real threath, he changes the article for reasons unknown (perhaps he was convinced by her argument), and she - not being a part of a powerful conspiracy, but of an activist gruop - does nothing strange in posting it online.

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:56:44 AM EST
Thank you for calling me a Conspiracy theorist.

Abbess' last message is quite clear with 'unfavourable light'. And the answer doens't leave much room of doubt either.

Also note that in none of the e-mails Harrabin gives permission for the publication of these messages (which he would he probably never give).

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:55:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Luis de Sousa:
Thank you for calling me a Conspiracy theorist.
Methiks you doth protest too much.

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 12:58:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Well, maybe. I apologize if so.

I don't even know what in hell is the GW Conspiracy Theory, but the therm Conspiracy Theory is used when you want to ridiculize someone.

Why can't this issue be debated without all this folklore? No one even touched the heart of the post, which was the interaction between mainstream media and the blogsphere.

Vencit omnia veritas.

by Luis de Sousa (luis[dot]a[dot]de[dot]sousa[at]gmail[dot]com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 03:18:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]
The simple quantitative model I use to evaluate the fanaticism of sporting clubs' supporters is to give to each supported an identity attachment equal to the inverse of the fraction of supporters who belong to that club.
(Opposed Warring factions total effort must be equal)

Given that Luis has been the single systematic skeptic on the attribution of recent global warming to human activity, its reactions can only be stronger than his many opponents. (conclusions cannot be more quantitative given the singularity of one of the camps).

by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 05:12:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]
findmeaDoorIntoSummer:
Opposed Warring factions total effort must be equal
What is that? Newton's third law of political dynamics?

When the capital development of a country becomes a by-product of the activities of a casino, the job is likely to be ill-done. — John M. Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 05:14:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]
It is a model. An assumption of equilibrium of forces.
by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 06:09:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Thank you for calling me a Conspiracy theorist.

I am sorry, I could have phrased it better. It was rather a reflection of my mood after following some of the links.

Abbess' last message is quite clear with 'unfavourable light'.

Yes it was. She declared that she would bring in others and that he might be held accountable in the court of the blogosphere. If he did not object to the conversation being shared of course. I just don´t see that freightening any journalist if they believe in what they have written. If it was a sloppy job early in the morning and they are quite unsure if they got it right, it might sway them.

And the answer doens't leave much room of doubt either.

You mean this:

BBC : Balance Restored | Campaign against Climate Change

Have a look in 10 minutes and tell me you are happier

We have changed headline and more

I would say it leaves lots of room for interpretation.

Also note that in none of the e-mails Harrabin gives permission for the publication of these messages (which he would he probably never give).

He neither gives permission for or opposes publication. As to what he would probably do, I have no idea.

But if you insist on the interpretation that she did scare him by threathening his job, then I would ask you to explain this. How would she get him fired?

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 03:41:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]
After some more read-up, I'm inclined to think this is a storm in a bathtub. Two notes:

1) The BBC's version of why they changed it:

I subsequently received suggestions that the article should offer more background. The WMO wanted to emphasise M. Jarraud's view that a slight temperature decrease in 2008 compared with 2007 should not be misinterpreted as evidence of a general cooling. Some of the feedback seemed helpful so we altered and expanded the report - improving it substantially for the general reader, in my view.

Among my e-mail exchanges was one with an environmental campaigner who published our e-mails implying that we had changed our article as a result of her threat to publicly criticise our report. We didn't change it for that reason. We changed it to improve the piece. But we've stirred the wrath of some of our readers as a result.

The main criticism was not about the revised version of the story itself, which contains the same facts as the original plus extra background - but that we changed the report apparently under pressure and did not signal the changes.

...Was the original copy wrong? No, it was not. Was there any material change? I don't think so. Should we therefore have flagged that the story had been altered? We didn't think that was necessary, but with hindsight it might have been a good idea.

2) Apparently, Harrabin is under a barrage of emails from campaigners on both sides. In October 2007, he wrote an email to the CC campaigners on a tussle over his negative comments on Gore's film, which you'll find (re-)published and commented at The Devil's Kitchen, a denialist blog. In the diary and in the comments, you'll find quotes of several emails the denialists wrote to Harrabin, and also the quote of one (alleged) reply.

*Traitor*, n.
A benighted individual who perceives an illusory distinction between serving his nation and abetting the criminals who govern it.

by DoDo on Tue Apr 15th, 2008 at 05:20:31 AM EST
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Short note on language.

In this text and everywhere else, I have understood that the word "Conspiracy" is presented  by those who oppose the existence of (future increasing, since anthropogenic,) Global Warming.

by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 04:37:49 PM EST
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Global warming conspiracy theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Critics of claims that scientists and others concerned with global warming are promoting a fraud or hoax have commonly used the term "conspiracy theory" to describe this view. On the other hand, those who describe the scientific consensus on global warming as a "hoax", "fraud" or even "conspiracy" often object to the use of the terms "conspiracy theory" or "conspiracy theorists" to describe them and their views.[31]


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by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 05:01:40 PM EST
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Those who oppose Anthropogenic Global Warming rightfully can and should reject the word conspiracy given to them, but at a price.
Rather than conspiracionists, you should call them defenders of well-known interests. Willingly or not.

There is not a symmetry among both fields. One represents a reaction to a status-quo. So same words don't apply.

I guess i am one of them, but one pathetic when compared to Luis, who has kept a clear line on the subject.

by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 05:28:44 PM EST
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Just for the record, I used the term because I have run into many who claim that there is a Global Warming Conspiracy, the aims of which may differ, but the methods being consistent. And they often use the term "Global Warming Conspiracy". Unwisely perhaps, but all the same.

Just to pull one of the google search:

Global warming conspiracy?, page 1

Global warming conspiracy?

We have long been inundated with theories about the "threat" of gw, and about how man, as a species, is mostly responsible.
I would like to raise a couple of points in regard to this and would welcome any feedback.
First, are we so arrogant that we have to believe that we MUST be the major culprit with regard to alleged gw. Could it not be the case that we are minor contributors to a "problem" that is still unproven to a large degree. Many other species produce huge amounts of much more potent "greenhouse" gasses.
Second, why are we not being given all the facts? why is there not a level field when it comes to debate? why are the doubters (of which there are many) shouted down, abused and discredited?
Third, why is evidence against gw suppressed, changed, or edited to obscure the meaning of what the doubters are really saying

I will refrain from using it further.

by A swedish kind of death on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 08:05:57 PM EST
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Recently, F.William Engdhal wrote an article on Global Research, triggered at least in part by the same recent results, which kept me thinking. In particular this excerpt:

Robert Toggweiler of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory at Princeton University and Joellen Russell, assistant professor of biogeochemical dynamics at the University of Arizona, two very prominent climate modellers, recently admitted that the computer models that show polar ice-melt cooling the oceans, stopping the circulation of warm equatorial water to northern latitudes and triggering another Ice Age (as in the fictional movie The Day After Tomorrow) are wrong. In a recent interview Russell said, “It's not ice melt, but rather wind circulation that drives ocean currents northward from the tropics. Climate models until now have not properly accounted for the wind's effects on ocean circulation, so researchers have compensated by over-emphasizing the role of man-made warming on polar ice melt.”

A question laying bellow is how do you simulate wind generation?
Related issue: Peter Lomdahl group at LANL in mid nineties was AFAIK the first to simulate how a glass did not sank through a table using a cut-off distance to simulate interactions between a molecule and all its neighours (defined by the cut-off). A similar trick may not be enough - it is perhaps defined by boundary conditions. For an instance, Craig Reynolds BOIDS model does not include an explanation for the general direction of movement; I guess must have set in the initial conditions.

by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 06:02:17 PM EST
Abbess is posting on an activist portal, presuming that mostly activists read it. To boast of success, I guess.

Someone comes across the thing, probably through google, and forwards it to the sceptic blogs.

It's quite similar to this.

The internet boosts transparency in unexpected ways. I'm not quite sure if that is much of a problem or if the way the public deals with scrutiny - e.g. all the manufactured outrage we keep buying into - is the real issue.

The transparency is only going to increase further. No blogger ethics panel is going to change it... at the same time I have little faith in people really becoming less impressionable soon. It's going to be a generational issue.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 07:15:42 PM EST
That must be the reason why she post it.

the impressionability of people is based also in how we process information, and that doesn't changes so fast.
However, the availability of communication channels will change. Truth deeply related to power cannot be allowed to arrive to a significant fraction of the public; therefore, if ever blogosphere becomes too widespread, other channels will become more interesting.

by findmeaDoorIntoSummer on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 08:27:30 PM EST
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